# Valentine Is Coming… But Who’s Gifting The Guys? | Ep. 115

An episode of [Menisms](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1608929536), 12 Feb 2026, 1 h 12 min.

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In this episode, we unpack our real experiences with Valentine’s Day — from secondary school teddy bears to uni heartbreaks… and even the infamous Prado moment. We talk about the pressure men feel to always be the giver, whether Valentine’s is just capitalism in disguise, and what actually makes a gift meaningful. Is Valentine’s about love… or performance? Subscribe to our YouTube channel and watch the video pod on Thursdays here 👉 https://youtube.com/@MenismsPodcast Feel free to drop us a comment. Got questions, feedback or want to share your experiences? 👉 https://forms.gle/5WkUNhx1fzPbubpy7 Follow the guys: Isyomar: https://www.instagram.com/isyomar/ Murewa: https://x.com/olumurewa?t=OYgAtjTrJQLWUWG5YmyvLA&s=09

## Transcript

[0:06] What's up guys? Welcome back to another episode
[0:09] of your favorite podcast. Medicine.
[0:11] Medicine. My name is Mario.
[0:13] Welcome. Kya and I'm.
[0:15] And this again is medicines. What's up, my G?
[0:18] How you doing? Oh, by the way, guys, it was
[0:21] it's your most birthday last week, so happy birthday.
[0:24] I wanted See you. See you, see you.
[0:26] Yeah, yeah. Thank.
[0:27] You guys for the love. You know I felt loved over the
[0:30] weekend. Yeah.
[0:31] Western Beach now man my. God, yeah, we did.
[0:33] It was soft. It was soft.
[0:34] It was soft. It was soft.
[0:35] It was funny. How everybody that came was like
[0:37] guys been lost actually inside water and all those that.
[0:40] But by the way, man, what's up with the salt now?
[0:42] Water man, I was my blood pressure right now is high.
[0:46] I was saying that honestly, just small Pepe and I'm already I'm a
[0:50] delicacy. I just put prepared.
[0:51] Just enter your carrots. Why not for like 10 minutes?
[0:54] No AC, no AC, you don't cooked, you don't cooked.
[0:57] It was it was a lovely experience though, Like yeah, it
[1:00] was good. It was you guys.
[1:01] I would actually say that. Production.
[1:02] So they brought me a cake. Not day.
[1:04] Actually, one person brought me a cake.
[1:06] Yeah, we'll screen the rest later.
[1:07] Thank you very much, you guys love me cakes.
[1:09] Yeah, but I'll say also that, you know, shout out to Takrabe,
[1:13] It's it's it's filling the gaps where Landmark couldn't really
[1:16] or can't anymore. So I'll say that, you know,
[1:20] again, if you guys are going for a nice beach experience, Taco B
[1:23] is not paying us, but we've got to give them a free ad.
[1:24] Hey. Oh, no, It was such a good time.
[1:25] Lucky Taco B. It was a really good experience.
[1:29] But yeah, I mean, other than that, how's your week?
[1:31] How, how how does it feel like birthday wise?
[1:33] Do you usually have like the birthday Blues or is it just?
[1:35] Oh, no, no, no, not really. Like I don't normally like to be
[1:38] honest, for like the past five years, I've not actually done
[1:40] anything, anything. Just call me just like one or
[1:42] two guys and do the whole Instagram post and but thank you
[1:46] guys send out like 700 praying hands.
[1:48] You know you gotta give everybody the this thing.
[1:56] So guys are now more more wispy. Don't.
[2:01] Take me back to our our lousy. I wanted to break our backs, but
[2:07] yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, thank God again for
[2:09] life. You know it's.
[2:10] Yeah, man, thank God for life. Somebody make it to this time.
[2:12] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Babaji, thank you very much.
[2:15] Yeah, you know, you know, you know what I see people keep
[2:18] wondering why guys don't want to, like, celebrate birthdays.
[2:20] And I'm just like, because just like you, I haven't.
[2:24] I usually don't do anything. I usually, in fact, I would say
[2:28] that if I was just on my own in my house, maybe 2 to 3 calls
[2:32] that I'm willing to pick up. And then last, I'm at that
[2:35] point, I'm on my. All right, Just send me a
[2:36] message. Yeah.
[2:37] Call Me Maybe Mom. Exactly.
[2:39] That's that's the two. Just give me that message don't
[2:42] give you. Exactly.
[2:43] You get just that whole solace of being the solitude of being
[2:45] in my house, this food, this Internet.
[2:48] When did that call? It was not like like 10 or
[2:51] something. Exactly.
[2:52] The movement tomorrow was just like last minute, last minute.
[2:55] I was like, I bet when I've reached like, you know, the my
[2:58] life expectancy, I've already passed half so I'm closer to
[3:01] dying. So you better make a lot of
[3:02] celebrates. Valid.
[3:06] Valid. I don't know.
[3:08] I can't even. I can't even ask, you know, let
[3:11] me just do something. Fair enough, fair enough, fair
[3:13] enough, valid. Well anyways guys.
[3:15] Also the things that have happened this last.
[3:17] Week oh, oh, oh, oh, let me go first, please.
[3:20] I just wanted to say AI go so far for this Nigeria go so far.
[3:26] You know, back then when they when they say the picture or
[3:30] whatever the video was doctored. Now you don't need doctors
[3:33] again, it's just AI, AI. So you don't see where AI come
[3:38] out. Complaints say, ah, it's not
[3:40] new. I'm not AI you no, no, no, no,
[3:43] no, no, no. Shout out to our governor who?
[3:46] Or ex governor who's? Who's the masseuse?
[3:49] Oh, sorry, ex we. Wouldn't have.
[3:50] We wouldn't have mentioned any names because we're not trying
[3:52] to listen. Again, not a political podcast.
[3:54] Yeah, So who's the who's the masseuse?
[3:55] We saw him, you know, on the on the which?
[3:58] No problem. No problem, no problem.
[4:00] My problem is just this. You people own this.
[4:03] On your ship, own your store on your.
[4:05] Ship you did it all. They quad the legs all the They
[4:08] robbed the footsies. If you if you've stolen the
[4:11] money, stolen money. Make senior man just.
[4:16] Do you know that? Do you know that she came out
[4:18] later on to? Debunk.
[4:20] I said AIAI. I said, ah, I'm AI, I'm not AIO.
[4:25] I've ever seen that kind of thing before with the AI.
[4:27] He says AI. Yeah, I say, hey, it's not me.
[4:30] You know, AI is finished. You know you got you got over
[4:32] ready yet? Again, this is, This is why.
[4:33] So I imagine that at some point we're going to have somebody
[4:36] like really dissect the whole tax thing here on podcast.
[4:41] But this is the reason why I'll say that Nigerians are not going
[4:43] to be willing to pay tax. We we can see where the tax
[4:46] money is going is going into AI is going to AI.
[4:49] Thank you very much. You get is going to ex governors
[4:53] ministers living their best lives when Nigerians can't even
[4:58] smell three meals in a day. So let let that sink in, right?
[5:02] But again, you know, in other news, there was the Ferrari
[5:06] crash. You know, I mean, we thank God
[5:08] for life. You know, Jeff is OK, We thank
[5:10] God for life. You know, The funny thing is he
[5:12] and I play tennis together. So I I see that flex life like
[5:15] off fronts, right. Is it actually a really cool guy
[5:17] where you meet him up from? But that whole stunt that the
[5:20] entire the entire scenario. I've seen videos up until like
[5:25] this morning as at the time we're recording this, you know,
[5:28] him talking about everything just being material.
[5:31] But what do you think? What do you think about building
[5:33] because people have gone so many things?
[5:34] Is it, was it an accident? He doesn't know how to drive a
[5:37] Ferrari? Some people have said that there
[5:40] are so many other. Things First things first that
[5:42] was a very simple pure accident and secondly, so everyone can't
[5:48] afford it gay or flashy car whatever.
[5:51] But I will just advise you, you better me do I burn a boy park
[5:54] the car for inside your. House because you're not going
[5:57] to enjoy. There is absolutely no Rd.
[6:01] worthy enough in this big goals for you to be doing that kind of
[6:05] stunt on with a supercar. It was Coastal Rd.
[6:10] Coastal Rd. that pavement. Yeah.
[6:12] I don't want to. Coastal Rd., Yeah.
[6:13] See, thank you very much. You don't think you don't think
[6:16] you said no coastal Road. And this is me calling from a
[6:20] professional level. I usually don't even talk a lot
[6:21] about my professional. But as an architect, I'm sorry,
[6:24] but Coastal Rd. is a horribly done Rd.
[6:27] It's it's a horribly done concrete Rd. you know, but
[6:31] again, again, it's only because what what we can compare it with
[6:35] no to plenty for this country, right.
[6:36] We don't have a lot of things that we can say.
[6:38] That was the standard. I mean the standard go to Abuja,
[6:41] Buja roads, simple. Then those kind of roads.
[6:44] Now you can't buy Lagos. There's no way you want to do
[6:47] that. OK, wait, wait, wait.
[6:49] Where your bro now won't spin that car go.
[6:51] He's lucky. First of all, he wasn't in that
[6:53] bend without that bend for that entire one week.
[6:56] Zumba, come on. He would have found himself at
[6:58] that head. Come on the water sign.
[7:00] See The thing is that man, that's just it man.
[7:02] To be honest man, like whenever when I see people buying super
[7:04] car, everything will be like for example, now when I'm wearing
[7:06] this McLaren, I'm McLaren at what time freaking to come out?
[7:10] It's like yo. I get it dude, trust me, I get
[7:15] it that. Is that was a pure accident,
[7:16] man. You know what horsepower is?
[7:18] You know what? Horsepower.
[7:20] I see, I get it as a lifestyle. I still spin like that of normal
[7:24] Corolla of normal. Oh yeah, of course, without
[7:27] spinning. That of course not.
[7:29] Your first, your initial burst, and yeah, you know.
[7:33] Thousands of horsepowers. You know, you know, what I say
[7:36] is that I get it. That is lifestyle, right?
[7:37] But like you just said, I mean, let the lifestyle match where
[7:42] you live. You know, it's kind of ironic.
[7:44] You have a super couple, you know you can't actually that's
[7:46] be honest. You can never really enjoy the
[7:48] Super current. Banana Island like this like
[7:50] it'll be ring before run your Lamborghini.
[7:53] You're done. You're cooked.
[7:54] You don't be in. Fact, you can only be in the
[7:56] house because you step out. You're stepping out right into
[7:58] like, yeah, so, so again. Again, Hey man, please.
[8:02] It's your money you spend. You got it, ball out you.
[8:04] Can't tell you how to spend your money?
[8:05] No, my money's buy 2, but if you're driving, drive normal.
[8:09] That's the move. Be on a cruise, be on a.
[8:12] Cruise any spinning, any just free.
[8:15] Just forget, you know, there's no rule for that stuff.
[8:17] Yeah. Moving on.
[8:17] Moving on. But anyways, on to some much,
[8:21] much more different news. There's the cross states
[8:24] massacres and I'm not even sure why this is not like mainstream
[8:28] media across everything, you know.
[8:29] So I watched, I watched the clip of a of a gentleman talking
[8:33] about how he had to run into hiding and he lost about 1212 of
[8:38] his family members of this attack.
[8:41] And I feel like we're not really putting into perspective.
[8:43] Just imagine that the brothers, sisters, uncles that you
[8:47] currently live with, you see on a daily now one day's incident
[8:50] and everybody's wiped off. Like I don't think we're really
[8:52] getting it. Everybody's wiped off and
[8:54] tomorrow you're not seeing those people anymore because there's
[8:57] just a security. There's a security hazard.
[9:02] So the security opening that we have in this country that this
[9:05] is really what we feel. Is really, really bad man and my
[9:08] condolences. To yeah man, we they all rest in
[9:10] peace. Because it makes absolutely no
[9:12] sense. Until now, there's no, there's
[9:14] been no arrests. There's.
[9:16] No, there's nothing. What is in custody?
[9:18] And there's this same country where we see them having
[9:20] meetings and rehabilitation for bandits, also reformed bandits
[9:26] or whatever, providing the meetings, talking with officers
[9:29] or whatever. And they're holding RPGs and
[9:30] other man it's it's it's very tiring you guys.
[9:36] You see it every time. The thing is for streeting then.
[9:40] And we have this thing where me happened to nobody, me happened
[9:44] to which. Is why I just said perspective.
[9:46] See. Right, Nobody.
[9:47] In respect, that's what the truth about it and it's all fun
[9:51] and games to you. It becomes your turn.
[9:54] You know what to experience that.
[9:55] I'm not saying, man, we need to fix up whatever it is like I
[9:59] don't even know who to who to address this to whatever, but
[10:02] you all need to fix up man. It makes absolutely no sense to
[10:05] me. Like it's not, it's not cattle,
[10:07] man. It's not like this thing.
[10:08] These are human. Beings, human beings, makes
[10:10] sense. You know, we said it earlier,
[10:11] they're going to be seeing a lot more of us trying to like do
[10:15] whatever we can to take this country back because again, it's
[10:17] only a political podcast. But hey, like we're people who
[10:21] live in this country and love the country like we don't, it's
[10:24] not rocket science that people in the country need to be kept
[10:26] safe and things can be done for that to be facilitated about
[10:30] again, you know, rest in peace to the guys, the people who lost
[10:32] their lives. And I think honestly, there need
[10:38] something needs to be done because and I know that we're
[10:40] getting closer to the break points.
[10:42] And the break point for me is only when the average Nigerian
[10:45] understands that that could be there.
[10:47] When your minister said that he can't pay salaries because how
[10:51] would. Because how would he buy cars
[10:52] cars and how would. He fix these vehicles then
[10:55] pulled out with my back my back music.
[11:01] Let me be clear, that's the truth.
[11:04] It makes this was France bread course hand the increase, of
[11:09] course, the whole streets, everybody good on demand, the
[11:11] whole streets. But yeah, only just.
[11:14] Well, it's all good again. It's sad, but these are the
[11:16] realities of things. And I think that we're getting
[11:18] closer to the brink, you know, hopefully.
[11:21] And me, I'm radio. You call me out once everybody's
[11:24] ready for an opera. I'm, I'm active.
[11:26] You see me. I look like I'm a gentle face.
[11:28] I anything to do with, you know, taking our country back.
[11:31] I'm there. I'm plastered.
[11:32] I'm right there. Let me know where it's at.
[11:34] And we're good to go, you know? But yeah, again, God bless
[11:39] Nigeria somewhat. Oh yeah, I also wanted to say
[11:42] something then, you know, Yeah, I was going to the comments on
[11:45] some of our yeah, yeah, videos and stuff and OK, some guys were
[11:49] like saying stuff like, oh, someone say can't relate because
[11:55] this is not I'm talking of more middle class or sometimes I just
[11:59] want to just put this out there. First of all, like guys, at the
[12:02] end of the day, I'm going to really speak from my experience,
[12:06] or should I say we speak from our experience, of course.
[12:08] So when we small, we'd be Neps, not Nepal.
[12:13] Once we fully involved or just Neps shout out to our parents.
[12:17] You know what I'm saying? We're comfortable.
[12:18] So that's what we experienced. Because when I when I watched it
[12:21] back to I was like, ah, there's someone here watching this in
[12:25] vexing us. And these guys from right now.
[12:28] Well, I don't know about him, but I'm lapsed.
[12:30] You guys lapsed my laps. No lapo.
[12:32] Lapo is too deep into it. Not that deep into it.
[12:35] I don't know what's going on. So I'm lapsed.
[12:37] Yeah. Right now, yeah.
[12:39] But back then. Come on, you know one day we're
[12:42] going to talk about this, right? We're.
[12:43] Going to, yeah, no worries. We're going to talk about.
[12:45] We're going to talk about something I've always like.
[12:48] I've always found very bothersome bitches.
[12:51] People who are rich want to be St. because being identified as
[12:55] rich is an insult. That the topic for not be.
[12:58] Good. No, it is.
[12:59] It's going to come. Then there's a flip side where
[13:02] people who are poor are trying to be rich because identified as
[13:05] poor is also an insult. So where's the middle ground?
[13:08] Because you find the people who are OK from the trenches,
[13:11] Trenches. They want to do everything they
[13:12] can to wear the Gucci, even if it is Gucci with three C's, you
[13:17] guess because that's their attempt to want to be identified
[13:19] with the rich. Then there's the people who are
[13:20] rich who want to take off the Gucci and West slippers instead
[13:23] because they're like, if I wear Gucci, they're going to think
[13:25] that I'm a rich kid. So at what point if I?
[13:27] But again, it's going to be a whole topic and I think, I'm not
[13:30] sure when, but we're going to have that another show we're
[13:32] going. To have another show.
[13:36] Oh my goodness. But anyways, yeah.
[13:38] Yeah, nonetheless. You know, I mean, it's, it's,
[13:42] it's still so. Guys, yeah, man, it's.
[13:44] Been a great week and I think we can jump right into we have some
[13:47] games. Well, not some games.
[13:48] We have a game we want to play. Valentine's Day is coming up and
[13:52] where's your boyfriend? Are you in?
[13:54] Love, are you? Are you making fun in love?
[14:00] Anyways, so the people at the studio have said that we should
[14:05] let you guys know if it's bare minimum or Princess treatment
[14:11] for some of these things that they've asked us about.
[14:13] And I'm going to start with this one.
[14:15] This is Valentine's Day edition, so it says buying flowers on
[14:20] Valentine's Day. For me, that's very minimum.
[14:24] Now as the best of minimals. As berminal but but again
[14:29] though, your gifts must. Have caused the diesel.
[14:33] No, no, just that. And this can be everything but
[14:36] flowers. That's right man.
[14:39] Like. No, but this is facts.
[14:40] But does it? You know, your gifts can be
[14:42] everything, both flowers. Or does that mean that you're
[14:43] not getting flowers, that you've not treated her like a Princess
[14:46] or you've not done the bare minimum because you could get
[14:48] everything, both flowers? I don't think like flowers are.
[14:50] Such a it's still, it's still bare minimum because it's like
[14:52] that flowers, chocolate, it's like a So if one of them is
[14:56] missing there, it's not so bad I guess.
[14:59] But one has, the rest are there to.
[15:01] To guide and support. Fair enough.
[15:03] OK, so I guess they both agree that I 1 is what bare minimum.
[15:08] OK, so the next one is booking a surprise dinner reservation.
[15:14] Still, it's still Birmingham, right?
[15:17] So I think, I think again, The thing is, all these things are
[15:20] like either ours, because if I didn't plan to reserve a space
[15:27] at the restaurants, there could be other plans and I could be,
[15:30] are we even going to talk about like what's our own preferred
[15:33] like Valentine's Day treatment is going to be like?
[15:35] But I think it's a bare minimum thing.
[15:37] So basically my point is, or our point is, I imagine that you may
[15:40] agree to the with me on this is making a reservation is
[15:46] something that the person who you're making the reservation
[15:49] for should not feel like she's a Princess for that reservation
[15:53] you made. It's still bare minimum.
[15:55] It's still bare minimum. I.
[15:57] Kind of wish you on that. Thing, yeah, I think it's still
[15:58] bare minimum. The next one is planning the
[16:02] whole date yourself. That is, that is not just
[16:26] Princess treatment, that is Sleeping Beauty Princess type of
[16:29] treatment because because again, there's nothing wrong if in a
[16:35] relationship, you understand how you guys are.
[16:36] But what do you mean? I planted you, you know, am I
[16:39] the only one that needs to be that needs to needs to give
[16:42] about the but it's like, but it's dumb, but it's Princess
[16:50] treatment type of done. Like, hey, I'm sorry, but we're
[16:52] going to say Princess treatment on that one, please.
[16:55] Yeah, you know. Let me just OK, next segment
[16:58] let's. Go.
[16:58] All right. So the next one is picking them
[17:00] up from the house are very minimum.
[17:02] Come on. Come on.
[17:03] Guys, Valentine's Day night, there's any day save.
[17:05] It should be that day now come on now, come on.
[17:08] That's that's I don't think there's any explanation for that
[17:11] one very minimum anybody that. Thinks I still want.
[17:14] Anybody that thinks, I mean, you can even say that there are
[17:17] circumstances, but as long as you've had the intention so you
[17:20] won't become, that already works.
[17:22] Because I think about this, right?
[17:24] If I'm going somewhere where it would take me, like logistically
[17:27] to take me 3 hours to get to you, but where we're going to is
[17:30] closer to me. Makes absolutely no sense.
[17:32] Exactly. Those are those are
[17:34] popularities, but we're talking about like everything equal you.
[17:38] Go see my land because crossing the bridge is one thing.
[17:41] We got to calm down, but like, we're on the same vicinity.
[17:44] Yeah, if we're around the same area, No, no, no, then of.
[17:46] Course it's easy. It's.
[17:47] Bare minimum. It's bare minimum.
[17:50] So the next one is paying the full bill on the first date.
[17:55] Wait on the first date as Valentine's or?
[17:59] First of all, don't ever make your first date Valentine's Day.
[18:06] Why? Why are you doing that?
[18:11] I don't even know what that question is.
[18:16] Test dates? Fantastic.
[18:18] In what world? Where you guys you think this is
[18:20] Disney Channel? Yeah.
[18:21] So by the way, you heard it here like guys don't.
[18:23] Don't do last dates no many times.
[18:25] They avoid it. Just avoid it.
[18:26] Avoid. It if if see if he's within that
[18:29] area. You guys started just talking.
[18:31] Just wait. Yeah, before things is over.
[18:33] Yep, Yep. You get that's what I'll tell
[18:36] you just wait because there's a facade and this fake.
[18:41] Oh my God, we don't have Sinclair for me, babe.
[18:46] I know she really like you. Oh my God.
[18:52] But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So the next one is designer
[18:55] perfume bag shoes as a gift. Bare minimum though, I mean.
[19:03] Sorry, as an individual or just? Go together so it says perfume
[19:07] or bag or shoes. Actually, it's gift type of
[19:11] thing. Yeah, I think it's still bare
[19:12] minimum because again, if it's perfume or bags or shoes, we're
[19:16] not thinking about what kind of bag.
[19:18] We're not thinking about what kind of shoes.
[19:19] But it says designer. Designer also has its ranges.
[19:22] Again, I still think it's bare minimum as long as you're not,
[19:24] you know? Yeah man, Birmingham are not
[19:26] killing the bank. Exactly so I.
[19:28] Think. That's pretty much it.
[19:30] This is the last one, it says remembering every little thing
[19:35] they like. We've said this in last time
[19:37] too, but I still think it's OK. The person is my girlfriend, my
[19:43] partner. I think it's bare minimum.
[19:45] But if the person is somebody I don't really know, like I'm not
[19:49] dating yet, we're still really getting to know each other.
[19:51] But we've talked long enough for us to be able to go on a
[19:53] Valentine's dates to some extent to this person is pretty
[19:57] instrumental because we're still dating, meaning that you you're
[20:02] still out to other people. If I'm spending a lot of my time
[20:04] getting to really know every single detail about every little
[20:07] detail about you. I think to some extent Princess
[20:09] treatments. I think so at the time where I'm
[20:13] not, you're not entitled to that part of me.
[20:14] I think it's Princess treatments.
[20:18] I can't really. Oh my, I wasn't even expecting
[20:22] that response. I'm so dead.
[20:23] I can't really doing every little Fred.
[20:27] That's actually crazy. OK, so are you saying that?
[20:29] I've I've bring farts a lot man. Fair enough, fair enough.
[20:33] So how do you how do you manage that in a relationship?
[20:35] Then how are you able to like at least do you sometimes say, OK,
[20:38] I might remember everything about this particular one.
[20:41] I must. No, no, no, no.
[20:42] Some things definitely that you definitely you lock, you lock
[20:45] in. That's all because like you
[20:47] said, man, you like to do some cute stuff to me.
[20:49] I kind of like to do some one of those cutes, you know, those
[20:52] brownie points where you're like, Oh my God, I can't believe
[20:54] you. I like that stuff.
[20:57] So once in a while when you when you pick up on one or two, so
[21:00] but I will just form not knowing you get like nobody care.
[21:04] But is he live? I know that song that you want
[21:06] to hear is going to know. Yeah, is he lover?
[21:07] Guys, let me just tell you guys, we'll start loving all the hard
[21:10] guy. All the hard guy you guys see
[21:11] from this guy. Which hard guy?
[21:12] I don't would do a guy means soft.
[21:14] Soft guy like like like oh. My God.
[21:22] OK, so we have a lot talk about on today's topic and again, we
[21:25] know that it might run into like long hours like last time, but
[21:28] they love even get into it. We're going to do today's
[21:30] dilemma right and it's it's a pretty long moment.
[21:33] I'm going to read right through it and we'll see how best we can
[21:36] address this. Okey doke.
[21:37] So says guys make a Yano. Now one serious matter.
[21:42] We don't disturb me from my mind.
[21:44] This Naruto no BC person they find clouds or contents.
[21:48] So I met this one babe Cynthia through a mutual friend.
[21:51] She's 29, sharp girl, well educated, works with one fintech
[21:54] company from outside everything day.
[21:57] All right, she's fine, God fearing, respectful and knows
[22:00] how to hold conversation for real.
[22:03] You'd be like say now wifey vibes.
[22:05] OK, Oh well, I'm good. So after like 2 months of steady
[22:08] talking dates here and there, I decide, OK, you know what?
[22:12] I'm going to open up and tell her that I'm serious and I'd
[22:15] like and I'm looking for a wife, right?
[22:18] And so she smiles and she says it's the same thing that she
[22:20] wants. But one day as we were talking
[22:24] she now said that she wants to come clean before things go far.
[22:28] And it's like she told me she had a past now literally the
[22:32] person puts this in quotes past. I asked how bad and she says
[22:39] she's been. She's been with over 12 guys.
[22:42] Some were just flings, some one or two serious relationships, 1
[22:46] sugar arrangements during her NYC that helped her pay rent
[22:50] that year. And she said she's not exactly
[22:53] proud. But hey, she's changed now she's
[22:57] stable. She's she's as stable as she's
[23:01] not as he has not found her. So she's now in a stable phase
[23:04] of her life. And she says that, you know, she
[23:09] wants to do things right from this point on, build with a good
[23:12] man, settle, you know, even take him to church and meet her
[23:17] people. Now he's like Bruce.
[23:21] I wouldn't lie. My head was just blank.
[23:25] I don't judge people, but I'm a man with values of loyalty and
[23:30] discipline. I wouldn't even lie.
[23:32] I haven't passed 4 babes in my whole life and that one is even
[23:37] like proper relationships. Now I'm trying to wrap my head
[23:41] around how I go, how I'm going to marry the woman that the
[23:46] other men have, you know, run through.
[23:49] So to see like really, you know, she was telling me that, you
[23:52] know, people change and it's only God that can judge.
[23:56] But how do I introduce someone like this to my people?
[23:59] My mother has a deeper life. Person is going to ask me plenty
[24:02] questions. My boys that know her and know
[24:06] about her stuff will be looking at me like I'm a fool or I'm a
[24:10] moo moo. The society that we live in, you
[24:13] know, forgive men fast but they don't really forgive women for
[24:17] their histories. Now it's a double standard for
[24:22] sure, but it's the reality of where we live in Nigeria which
[24:25] is fair. Now it says now to the dilemma,
[24:28] should I focus on the woman she is now or the woman she used to
[24:33] be? Kind of woman with that kind of
[24:35] past surely settle down and stay faithful or am I setting myself
[24:39] up for premium breakfast? Is it unfair to expect a woman
[24:43] with a wild past to now fit into traditional role?
[24:46] And what really is wife material in this our generation?
[24:50] I need you guys to reason this thing with me with a clear head.
[24:53] It's not easy. Is it hypocrisy or just
[24:57] standard? Going to go first or should I?
[25:01] Yeah. OK.
[25:02] All right. Let me go first.
[25:04] So first of all, like what I'll say is now this is a very
[25:07] detailed breakdown, right? I like the way this person has
[25:10] given us a full scope of what's happening.
[25:13] Here's my very first take. If you're someone who already
[25:16] has doubts that you can't deal with someone's past, do not
[25:21] force yourself into trying to see them differently or see them
[25:25] in a different if if it's not already in your in your in your
[25:32] values to be able to see someone beyond their past, don't force
[25:36] it, right? There's nothing wrong with also
[25:39] you cannot learn things. But if you reach the point that
[25:42] you haven't learned this part, which is being able to accept
[25:45] people for their past, embrace that that's who you are.
[25:48] Like your value system is built around.
[25:50] You know you want people a certain way.
[25:53] You don't want to judge, but the society you live in is like
[25:55] this. It's people don't understand
[25:57] difficulty in on learning things.
[25:59] You've spent your whole life living, right?
[26:01] It's a very difficult thing, but at the same time, you need to
[26:04] also know where is realistic for you because as much as you're
[26:08] trying to conform to the new ways of learning things, if it
[26:11] doesn't work for you, doesn't work for you, you end up
[26:13] falling, falling society and saying, OK, I've learned it now
[26:16] I don't judge people, but you know that you're dying slowly
[26:19] inside that relationship. Every snicker that your friend
[26:21] makes you, you're just your babe will pass you be like this, your
[26:24] babe. You know you're already having
[26:25] so many things run through. You're not able to confidently
[26:27] defend her because you too are feeling like they really run
[26:32] through her. Stuff like that.
[26:34] Then I think just step away. It's not an arrangement that can
[26:38] really work for you. Understand that your limitations
[26:40] are where she has come to you. You guys might like each other,
[26:43] but it's not about liking each other.
[26:46] There's a dynamic that needs to be compatible.
[26:48] And I see that both, she's coming from a place where I have
[26:52] a past, but she'll be able to look beyond it.
[26:54] You'll come from a place where I want to look beyond it, but I
[26:57] also have a past of not being able to look beyond things like
[26:59] that, you know? And also his own life also helps
[27:03] him more just be more judgmental because he has also not had an
[27:06] experience that he can see, Oh, I've also been like this.
[27:09] So I should understand how he also can't understand her
[27:12] because even in his own reality, he's thinking, how would I even
[27:15] be with 12 girls? So I, I think that's, hey, it's
[27:20] not, it's not an area that you can really find yourself being
[27:23] able to thrive in. So just step away, find someone
[27:26] else who just fits into, you know, the standards and values
[27:30] that you appreciate and you move on with that.
[27:33] In my own personal opinion, no, I could give less of a shit
[27:37] about somebody's past because I also have a past just like
[27:39] everybody else has a past. What's it sex?
[27:41] I mean come on guys, we do say that yes sex comes spiritual
[27:44] connections and blah blah blah stuff, but let's be honest, half
[27:48] the people that were weird please don't kill me.
[27:58] From what you just said, you're right he has this like he just
[28:01] said like 4 people some of that. So you your own self alone is
[28:05] not gelling with you. Yes, it might be best for you to
[28:08] find another person or person. Yeah, but then again, I don't
[28:11] need to flip. Like like he also said it
[28:13] society does not forgive, they forgive.
[28:16] Women. They don't forgive women.
[28:18] Yeah. It's so true.
[28:20] It's the truth. Sorry that's the reality but
[28:22] that just is on my hand. Again.
[28:25] You told her you wanted to get married and all that stuff and
[28:28] join. This is called you down and sat
[28:30] you down and said ah. Play the scene for how it is.
[28:34] This guy does not even know how rare that is.
[28:37] See, that's what I'm saying. I'm just going to commence
[28:39] Cynthia, whoever Cynthia is, because so many girls ain't
[28:42] going to tell you shit bro. Now I already did.
[28:46] All these guys don't come. Simple.
[28:48] Simple. That's legal for you.
[28:50] That's that's nice for you. I'm just saying, So she was able
[28:54] to tell you that, man. I'll cover you.
[28:55] And then the truth is that, yeah, you know, they say any
[29:00] number, someone says multiply, but she wants to counted them.
[29:03] She knows them say 12 to give you #1212.
[29:07] No, two plenty. You know, you say you got me
[29:10] personally. Like he said, everybody has a.
[29:13] Path. Everybody has a.
[29:14] Path yet I can't be if it's a past that I can't.
[29:17] It's not like it's not not resonating with me or more.
[29:24] Exactly. It's just a simple, OK, you know
[29:25] what, let's even give more context to this, right?
[29:28] Because people talk about pasts a lot.
[29:33] I think the kind of past you have is not even you see, it's,
[29:36] there's, there's something that is, there's something that is
[29:38] very mundane about how people see and judge, you know, people
[29:42] who have had like sex and most persons like that, right?
[29:46] And I think we worry, we worry a lot about the things that
[29:49] they're, they're even willing to tell us.
[29:50] How many people are going to tell you they've killed two
[29:52] people before because I see how we just wear out the run through
[29:56] her. Yes it's a shame thing, but the
[29:58] truth is that everybody you're with right now has been with
[30:01] somebody before. I should probably have the
[30:03] wildest sex of my life with that guy and like like all the things
[30:07] you think you're experiencing with her for the first time.
[30:10] Oh, she calls my name this week calls but she called on that
[30:12] guy's name that way too. She called the last guys, even
[30:15] the guy before. She also said, oh, you're the
[30:17] best in that. The earlier you come to terms
[30:20] with the fact that you would never really be the first thing
[30:23] another son that that person is experiencing, the LA would
[30:25] understand that. Look, there are some past that.
[30:27] If it's not that bad, OK, while you were doing that, you didn't
[30:31] slip somebody there, stab him after the UK, then now you have
[30:33] a moral kiss and you're like, you don't have anything that I
[30:36] too can genuinely suffer for, which is you're a criminal.
[30:40] Now that you're married to me, I'm also a criminal because you
[30:43] know, your past is going to follow us into our new home.
[30:47] If it's not that, if it's not a past that's going to follow us
[30:49] into our new home, I think that's what it is.
[30:51] If it's not a path that's going to follow us into our new life,
[30:53] then I'm OK. But if it's a past that is going
[30:56] to linger right where no matter what, things are going to keep
[30:59] surfacing, then. Yeah, because I can also, even
[31:02] with the sex thing, people have been messy with that as well.
[31:04] There's a way you can have sex that, you know, with multiple
[31:07] people that that's that's experience.
[31:11] We just keep following you everywhere you go.
[31:13] You just keep being reminded that this is how it was.
[31:15] With, he also said. He also said that that can
[31:20] people change and stuff. Yeah, absolutely.
[31:22] Everyone can. Change.
[31:23] I believe every single president can change yes, you had it
[31:26] passed or whatever. Now she wants to carry into
[31:28] church my own video. Let me just I'm sorry, this is
[31:31] not to send it to high and I'm just saying like this is no
[31:33] ladies off topic, but still on topic somehow you know how they
[31:36] say like the final boss or the. Last bus stop of the I'm going.
[31:42] To use the term, and I don't care, final boss of the whole is
[31:45] the church. So yeah, I'm saying so you know
[31:48] what I'm saying? So people can change.
[31:50] Anybody can change. I believe anyone can simply
[31:53] change. People say that our whole to
[31:54] church girl pipeline is crazy. It's a very crazy pipeline.
[31:56] But hey, hey again, well, this is not even us calling her a
[32:00] hoe. So exactly, exactly so so we're
[32:05] not, we're not ever saying that. We're just saying that what I
[32:08] also think that while we have the opportunity, we need to let
[32:11] men know that still be open minded.
[32:14] What makes you able to sleep with 30 women, but a woman can't
[32:17] sleep with 30 men? Why?
[32:19] Because society has said, and you hear people say things also
[32:22] that, hey, you know, a key can open multiple, but a hole can.
[32:26] And I'm like, guys, come on. Like we're looking for different
[32:29] reasons to justify the double standard, right?
[32:31] So again, what? Are double standards everywhere?
[32:34] So everywhere. If you don't, if you don't.
[32:38] If you use that same analogy too.
[32:40] Always and always and if if again that passed is one that
[32:46] can stain. In the past, yeah.
[32:48] And it's cool. I mean, come on.
[32:50] But if you know that everywhere we go.
[32:52] But on on the other side, bro, on the other side, bro, for
[32:54] come, come. This is what me I'll just say to
[32:57] you, it depends on how you are. You feel about this lady.
[33:01] I feel about Cynthia. Yeah, that's on how close.
[33:03] You really see a future there. You really see a future there
[33:05] because if at this point in time she already told you how the
[33:08] past and right now you see, like you just say she's wifey
[33:10] material. She's giving every sign of
[33:12] everything is going to make sense.
[33:13] Hey man, screw everybody. You know why?
[33:16] Because all those people that are talking, they're not going
[33:18] to be your house or whatever, because you might just feel
[33:21] like, Oh, I'm waiting on me, this person and I just left it
[33:23] one person, bro, you put down for house mental.
[33:26] I'm just saying like so nothing is guaranteed.
[33:28] It doesn't mean that Oh, because this person.
[33:30] So when you reach out, we find the fun might be the greatest
[33:33] shit ever in the world. You know, I'm trying to say so
[33:36] you know, I mean out of the boils down to you.
[33:38] Now you can make decision based on you and.
[33:40] I think. I think he also asked one final
[33:43] question about what is wife material in our own day and age.
[33:48] And that's a very good question to ask, right?
[33:51] Because everybody thinks about wife material, wife material,
[33:53] wife material. But what exactly is it
[33:56] personally? It is what you decide comprises
[34:01] of who you want to spend the rest of your life.
[34:03] Because see, you see, our society is very good at giving
[34:06] you the standards you should accept and never about what you
[34:09] really want. If somebody's telling me that
[34:11] she's wife material, why are you telling me who can be wife
[34:15] material for me? But that's the society we live
[34:18] in. They'll tell you wife material.
[34:20] She was able to cook, was able to clean, was able to raise
[34:23] children, must be able to take care of your home.
[34:26] Based on whose standards? Because you know, there are some
[34:28] men who just prefer, in fact, their own wife material is
[34:31] mission. She should be going to work.
[34:32] I want to be in the house. Then I'll be going to work
[34:34] making the money for the family while I'm at home.
[34:36] That's that's his version of wife material or wife material
[34:38] is somebody who's working alongside me.
[34:40] You know, somebody who doesn't even want children, just wants
[34:44] to have a life of a happy marriage.
[34:46] We just go, we make money, we spend our money, we travel
[34:48] everywhere. Wife mature does not have one
[34:51] definition. And I think we we need to start.
[34:53] You know that that trail of having this train of thoughts
[34:59] wife mature is whatever you choose for it to be.
[35:02] Now, of course there are general things to look out for in a
[35:04] woman that we see that general men like.
[35:07] So to see which is of course, you want somebody who would keep
[35:11] a good home. And by keep a good home, it
[35:12] means she's not adding chaos to the home known as, you know,
[35:15] she's the one taking full control.
[35:16] I mean, you are both running the house.
[35:18] Exactly. She's bringing peace.
[35:20] It's not she's not adding to the things you are trying to solve
[35:23] as problems. That's what I was considered as
[35:25] your wife material. You know, she's able to support
[35:28] you in a way that you get to feel that while everybody else
[35:32] is against you as your person, you know, she's able to
[35:35] understand it before you even speak.
[35:37] She's able to, you know, read into when you need some time
[35:40] alone, when you're able or when, you know, you guys need to shift
[35:44] between who takes care of the kids in the moment because you
[35:46] are going through a lot right now.
[35:47] She's OK You know what, Let me just step in.
[35:49] Let me tell this. Yeah, children.com.
[35:51] You don't Your dad is busy. You know, there's there's
[35:53] certain things that and these are not things that, you know,
[35:56] you really hear a lot of people directly telling guys to look
[36:00] out for. You're just telling them make
[36:02] sure she keeps a good was a good home.
[36:03] What do you want to find out? What you just said about kids,
[36:05] how you want to look out for that one?
[36:08] Fair enough, it's fair, but you don't again, there are certain
[36:13] tricks. There are ways.
[36:14] Now you know how some some people actually intentionally so
[36:18] say for example, I'm dating someone and she's like, oh, I'm
[36:20] waiting for my one year olds. My sister's son's birthday is in
[36:24] those moments, just kind of see how she is around children.
[36:26] You know, there's some women I don't I can't stand children.
[36:28] Like they can't, they just can't stand children, you know, and
[36:31] there are some who you see them, they are real caretakers.
[36:33] Now the ones who can't stand children also have their people
[36:35] who like them 'cause don't forget that again, it's not
[36:37] everybody that wants children. A guy too can feel like you
[36:40] look, I just want a wife that experience of my life with let's
[36:43] just enjoy and, you know, live life and that's it.
[36:46] So, So yeah, I will say that again, you wife material is
[36:52] whatever you make of it. And yes, there might be
[36:57] benchmarks to look out for, which is of course, you don't
[36:58] want anybody else going to break your home or it's going to be
[37:00] hurtful to you or disrespectful to you and whatnot.
[37:03] But in the end, the core of the, the qualities you want from the
[37:07] best you want to spend the rest of your life with would always,
[37:10] always come from you. Nobody, literally nobody in this
[37:13] entire world knows how you would like your life to be lived
[37:16] except you. Nobody, there's literally
[37:18] nobody. So yeah, that's it for me, you
[37:21] know, and again, we're not relationship experts, right?
[37:24] But this is just based on our own experiences.
[37:26] You know, we think that not to my experts, not to, not to, we
[37:30] think that at least we can just help whatever we however we can
[37:32] in our own experiences. And hopefully you guys are able
[37:34] to take a thing or two from it, you know?
[37:36] But on that note, Valentine's is coming.
[37:40] Where is your boyfriend? Oh my God, that song terrorized
[37:47] us years ago. It's coming back.
[37:49] It's coming back every year today.
[37:51] Valentine is coming, Where is your boyfriend?
[38:00] Guys, I know this is out of character.
[38:02] Just forgive us. You know it's a happy.
[38:04] Love isn't there, can't you feel it?
[38:07] So yeah, how's your Valentine's looking?
[38:09] Do you have any saw anyone special?
[38:10] They're looking to spend the Valentine's Day.
[38:15] Do you say you hope so? Oh my God, don't fucking kill
[38:19] me, please. Reference just came in as soon
[38:22] as I said the reference just came out.
[38:26] No, I don't know what I mean. Is that how I'm thinking I get
[38:29] something cute, Sir? Yes, do you have do you have you
[38:33] know what actually this question I also asked, but actually said
[38:36] to your boss, I look it kind of feel like that set up would be
[38:38] nice for next week's episode. So do you have somebody that you
[38:41] plan to spend Valentine's with? Just whoever it is Child might
[38:47] be watching, might not be watching.
[38:49] You watch it, I watch it together.
[38:51] Wow. But yeah, OK, fair.
[38:55] Enough. I think so.
[38:56] I think so. Yeah.
[38:57] Yeah, I do. Do you think so based on you
[39:01] would like to spend with her or based on she has expressed that
[39:05] she would like to spend with you?
[39:07] About based on his Valentine's Day without the base I'm basing
[39:11] it on I'm just. Because so.
[39:13] But how do you know that she doesn't have all her Valentine's
[39:15] plans? Have you guys spoken about it?
[39:17] I. Know Joe as Gillian, are you
[39:20] what I mean? Well, fair enough.
[39:23] I mean, yeah. My thank you.
[39:28] They come from anywhere they send you money booking.
[39:35] I don't think I'm doing anything for Valentine's Day normally.
[39:37] Let me lie to you, I'm not. So I've never been so crazy of
[39:40] Valentine's Day for one, for one reason.
[39:43] Like basically, I'm just breaking down.
[39:45] Come on. So Valentine's Day, when we all
[39:47] started back then when I was younger, when we were younger,
[39:50] that time when we just started getting liking girls and stuff
[39:54] like that. I'm talking secondary school
[39:57] time. Yeah, secondary school.
[39:57] It was Valentine's Day. Now Valentine's Day, what you
[39:59] have to do? Get card, a teddy bear.
[40:01] That was it. Teddy bear, Rose card.
[40:03] It didn't pass any of those gifts based on Valentine.
[40:06] So I remember one day actually, like I was gambling my POPSY
[40:09] now, like she gives me money. How to buy Valentine gifts for
[40:14] somebody? Maybe after I give me money
[40:18] everything and I came back came back with Teddy PA, you know
[40:21] those long rules like have a good stand alone.
[40:25] Well, that's why I did to my blazer business say boys is shy
[40:27] now you guys do so, but I put up a blazer put on side pocket all
[40:30] those kind of packages. So I bought the long rules
[40:33] bought this thing a bone small cute teddy bear right when I go
[40:37] home, he just saw it and everything it's fine.
[40:40] He asked me very simple question.
[40:41] I said so what's the person getting you in my head I was
[40:45] like how like what do you mind what this person getting me?
[40:48] He just killed me. He's like you know this
[40:50] so-called Valentine's Day, the two way things, the deal of law,
[40:53] whatever the same way you give this person or show
[40:55] appreciation, the person also gives you back.
[40:58] So since then that. You have been locked in.
[41:02] On that P has been in my head where it's like so after that I
[41:06] did the whole gifted and everything.
[41:07] She gave me a card, whatever, which, whatever I would like.
[41:12] Fast forward it again, on my Valentine's Day, I did the same.
[41:16] First one. This is I'm talking about just
[41:18] coming up in general, just I'm in UNICEF, just me.
[41:23] The every time I was giving those so.
[41:25] It got to the point, man, I think that she just rang and I
[41:28] just I was like, Nah, man, So I just I just now obviously I feel
[41:33] the weight if you don't show me signs, say hey, I don't mind,
[41:35] I'll buy last minute, whatever. But if you're I'm a chocolate
[41:39] too now, it's cool. Wait, they give you they give
[41:43] you chocolate code? No, I'm not saying just in case
[41:45] like if you don't feel like you, you don't need to show me the
[41:49] same Valentine love whatever I is is good with me.
[41:52] It's like it's just another day at the end of the day.
[41:55] Like why does it have to be today that even when I when I
[41:58] when I was even dating around when I I like I just declare
[42:00] them I'm like you, man, like this whole where everybody, Oh
[42:04] my God, the day of love. Another thing they shout out to
[42:06] you guys, man should love you on the show.
[42:08] But I'm just saying like, why must it be?
[42:09] Why is it this particular idea? Like usually some days ago did I
[42:14] shot last month, then we catch this crew.
[42:16] Didn't that tell you that I want to be this, this fake everybody,
[42:21] just this force this. That's my first love power so
[42:24] that. By for me.
[42:25] Personally, I'm not so much a Evantine guy.
[42:28] My God I did. My birthday is a week, literally
[42:32] a week before Valentine's Day. So if my birthday come you don't
[42:37] now show me some kind of energy that I need to see.
[42:39] Forget. There's no Valentine's idea.
[42:41] Just forget because that's just me.
[42:43] I'm sorry. Like you said, let me know that
[42:45] you is a two way thing. I need to feel appreciated as
[42:49] well. You know, you just brought up a
[42:50] question that I have your birthday being on Valentine's
[42:53] week before you know what? You want good.
[42:56] They always try to cheat me. Yeah.
[42:57] So you know, you know, if it's the flip side for your babe, if
[43:02] you like, let her birthday be the same.
[43:04] Let it be on Valentine. You do it to be separate and you
[43:07] separate them. You understand?
[43:09] But it is actually cheats me. So.
[43:11] So so me. I don't.
[43:13] I will do that. My baby will come fast.
[43:17] See, bro, my baby will come very early in the year.
[43:19] Oh, I'm single as shit. I'm not talking to somebody all
[43:22] of a sudden is that person's birthday.
[43:23] It's like *** What the fuck, right?
[43:25] So you're always on the giving. End because it's very not
[43:30] involved in the middle of the discussion or whatever gotta do
[43:33] one or two things now it's birthday OK, cool Fast forward
[43:36] now don't reach you don't goose you don't fully somebody don't
[43:40] come again recycle now so me I've not been the Valentine the
[43:45] guy for the longest I only lie to you that's bad, but after
[43:49] some now but we get like some normal back game channel that's
[43:52] a crazy. That's a crazy perspective.
[43:54] I mean last. Last one I really did was can we
[43:57] went for dinner. OK, went for dinner.
[43:59] Those were like 2 years. Ago, so did you.
[44:02] Oh, so Andy was like a proper romantic.
[44:05] Or you feel like you went to the first?
[44:07] No, the first, the first. I wanted to go out there, so we
[44:10] went for the focus of. I see with.
[44:12] The does it door their service or your so it just kind of cute
[44:15] kind of vibe when you were born and that was.
[44:18] OK. OK.
[44:19] Fredo So would you say that that experience, like you created it,
[44:21] you make sure you wanted to plan everything?
[44:23] Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a wear red dress.
[44:25] So this can be look sexy, look beautiful.
[44:27] That's the That was the ending. Can I tell you guys that you
[44:29] guys know you had guys? Know me hard.
[44:31] I love, love, love. Fair enough.
[44:35] I mean, so, you know, your perspective is one I've never
[44:38] heard before because I've never spoken to anyone who's also
[44:41] like, a guy born close to Valentine's Day.
[44:44] That's hard to like, live through the experiences to
[44:46] explain that. Because for example, me and you
[44:50] have been talking about me, talking about my baby just
[44:52] passed. No, no, yours.
[44:57] Oh my God, happy birthday. And then Valentine's just I'm.
[45:01] Chilling. Now you know what?
[45:03] Actually, I feel like you have the trump card for the
[45:06] Valentine's. Oh, no, no, no, I've been using
[45:08] it for the longest. I don't stress.
[45:10] It's just Oh my God, it didn't do anything.
[45:12] Oh my God, for my birthday, usually simple for me.
[45:16] I'm sorry, such a I've been enough for years now.
[45:18] I don't, I don't. So Valentine's Day is not really
[45:21] one of those days that because they usually decide and.
[45:26] It's such a hack because really, you know, nobody's really
[45:29] getting you anything on your birthday like that.
[45:31] And then Vasdeen outcomes in the experience.
[45:33] So you're not going to love you. This is DJI.
[45:34] Don't cross my leg. Remember it was all about a week
[45:38] ago. We could go.
[45:40] But yeah, OK, on the flip side of things, I how?
[45:45] About you, let me now flip the questions.
[45:46] Yeah, I've definitely had. Mr. Lova man shabba.
[45:53] I remember reading one of the comments on our heartbreak
[45:57] episode. Somebody said we were like every
[46:02] night. I just said but don't.
[46:08] Get interested. My love is a beautiful thing.
[46:12] Don't jazzy again. Yeah, we need to get him on this
[46:15] podcast anyways. Yeah, so I've had very, I've
[46:21] actually had very good. OK, So let me start by saying
[46:25] that it's only now that I've spent I've I have sort sort of
[46:31] an equal time being single and being in a relationship pre 20.
[46:38] I'll say pre 2018, everything before 2018, like in my life, I
[46:42] was more in a relationship than I was single.
[46:45] That is from my adult, my young adult life.
[46:48] So from the age of 16, bro, I've I've been in a relationship more
[46:51] than I've been single. So, so I've been doing more
[46:55] relationship based things than single base things, at least pre
[46:59] 2018. And one of my memorable
[47:03] Valentine's was OK, so this was I think it was in 20.
[47:15] No, sorry, 20/20. It was 2010, 2011 actually.
[47:20] So this is 2011. We had we had just let Nuni, we
[47:23] had already started working. It was it was that CMX
[47:26] girlfriend. That's the one that you all
[47:28] know. Yes, because now they all know.
[47:32] So yeah. So we were Valentine's Day I
[47:35] think fell on like a Tuesday or Wednesday.
[47:37] It was just like one of those during the week, people still
[47:39] have to go to work type of thing, right?
[47:42] So I found that a bit tricky for me because I was I had to work.
[47:48] You get so being able to work as also like plan and not just
[47:51] plan, but be able to like materialize the plans because
[47:55] you have to be there some of the cases to look at.
[47:56] I say, OK, I paid for this. Is everything OK?
[47:59] Is the, you know, it does everything look right Was really
[48:02] tough for me. So but luckily for me in 2011, I
[48:05] still had my brother in Nigeria. So I just called him up.
[48:07] I said, hey, bro, how far I I'm planning this.
[48:12] And of course my bro knew that, you know, I was dating this girl
[48:14] for the longest time. So he was ready to like, you
[48:18] know, come through for me. So I said, OK, hey bro, I have
[48:22] this Valentine's plans that I want to do.
[48:25] What I did then was so because it was short notice, I had no
[48:30] idea what to really get everywhere.
[48:31] Every restaurant was closed, every whatever I could think of
[48:34] was already fully booked. You know what I did?
[48:37] I said, hey, wait, what am I going to find now?
[48:40] What do I have as my resources? What can I leverage on?
[48:43] I just said, wait, that's true. I remember there's one like
[48:47] random bottle of my way at home. I just come on by that says,
[48:49] see, find me an ice bucket. You see that bottle of there's
[48:53] one bottle of movie that's just just let me put it inside.
[48:56] OK, good. Back in the day, my mom used to
[49:02] buy a lot of Guinea fowls, like roasted Guinea fowls you just
[49:04] buy and keep in the house. I just remember that come,
[49:06] that's true. Whenever we have guests, you
[49:08] just bring it out. Please just bring me two of
[49:11] those. Just, I mean, you know, divide
[49:12] it in pieces and you know, just microwave it puts in a nice
[49:15] four. Just I just did that, got me the
[49:19] bottle of champagne. I just said, OK, you know what,
[49:21] what I can do quickly now is rent a boat for a cruise,
[49:25] actually cruise for like maybe 1-2 hours at this point.
[49:29] I'm, I'm very big on surprises. So I usually like for my partner
[49:32] to not know what I'm doing at all.
[49:35] Like not even have a clue that I'm playing anything.
[49:37] In fact, if best for me, you should already assume I didn't
[49:41] plan anything. So you're already disappointed.
[49:43] You're like, wow, I didn't plan it.
[49:44] He hasn't told me anything yet. I like that one.
[49:47] So this was like what, 4:00 PM? It was already like almost the
[49:51] close of the day. She hasn't really heard anything
[49:53] about Valentine's plans from me, you know, But she also wasn't
[49:57] really confused to see you're not seeing anything.
[49:58] She just like waits it out and see how it's going.
[50:02] That's how by like 430 I just thought like, yeah, OK, you know
[50:07] what, I'm going to get you a cab because I couldn't pick her up
[50:12] because I had to be there for the plan, like make sure
[50:14] everything was that's her. You know what, I'm going to get
[50:16] you a cab. Then there were no ubers and
[50:18] stuff. So just for context, I was going
[50:20] to get her a cab and the cab will come and meet me at this
[50:24] location where I am. And this is like, oh what?
[50:26] What's the classic? Just come, just I'll tell the
[50:29] cab guy where to bring you. Just get here 1st.
[50:32] And so she got to the location, she was still confused, like,
[50:35] where are we going? I said, just relax.
[50:37] I wanted to do let me blind for the calm down guy.
[50:40] He's not he's not that deeper in a movie.
[50:42] So, you know, as soon as she got into the space, she saw the
[50:46] boat. I tried to do like small
[50:48] balloons on the boat, just, you know, just really last minute
[50:50] stop. But it came out really good, you
[50:52] know, and then the boat was one of those boots that had like an
[50:54] inner cabin. So I just did champagne in the
[51:00] in the in a bucket of ice, roasted Guinea fowl one side and
[51:06] just ambient music. That was it in the boots.
[51:09] It was actually one of the best Valentine's Days I've had in a
[51:12] while. I would always remember that as
[51:15] Sochi. I didn't have to break the bank
[51:17] for this, but this was such an amazing time.
[51:19] That was one of my experiences. I think it was an amazing one.
[51:22] I have so many other ones I can. Share all of all the all of us
[51:24] here these together as a middle class and a Libby because I
[51:32] don't talk about boots. I started with the foul.
[51:33] We thought it. Was normal by the way.
[51:35] Boots. Where did the boots come from?
[51:37] By the way, by the way, by the way, for more context, this was
[51:41] after she had committed our atrocities, by the way.
[51:43] So this was just for more context.
[51:46] But yeah, this was this was yes, I definitely was privileged to
[51:50] have a lot of these things available for me to access.
[51:53] Definitely, definitely. But I was one of those people
[51:56] who I didn't really believe in everything needs to needs to be
[51:58] like one way must be teddy bear Rd.
[52:00] No, no, no, no, no make sure like maybe they just be special
[52:03] in a certain way that Shitsu would know that yes doing CFD.
[52:08] My hands are very strong as well, you know, and.
[52:10] He has a romantic guy. A romantic guy.
[52:12] Always, always been, always will be.
[52:14] I mean, even though. Nobody was romantic by romance.
[52:19] But yeah, yeah, that's that's one experience.
[52:21] I remember like another relationship I was in, it was
[52:24] long distance for a short while, but our first Valentine's fell
[52:29] on the beginning of on the long distance period of our
[52:35] relationship. Well, I did, I did 1.
[52:36] I did like sandy flowers like. By the way, for context, this is
[52:40] the person that you know and. Yeah, I don't know nothing.
[52:45] Nothing at all. I know nothing.
[52:46] By the way, it's in house you guys, you guys are not allowed
[52:48] now. It's an all secrets.
[52:50] But yeah, in in that one, what I had done was I had, you know, I
[52:56] had called up a friend and I said, look, I'm playing this
[52:58] whole surprise. I want you to help me get this,
[53:00] do this, do that. You know, I I send this like
[53:03] that. Then I wasn't even I wasn't a
[53:04] nige. I was in the UK at the time.
[53:06] And I called people to say, OK, you know, you go to this place,
[53:08] get me this, you go here, get me that, you know, send it to this
[53:12] location, but send it at this specific time.
[53:14] You know, what I'd even done is I sent everything to her friend
[53:16] first so that her friend just shows up in her house like a I'm
[53:20] just coming to say hi, Right. And back then it was Skype.
[53:24] So I was on a Skype phone call. I was talking with her on video
[53:27] call and everything. And while I was on the phone, I
[53:31] was texting her friend saying, oh, hey, are you, are you there
[53:36] yet? You like, oh, yeah, I'm outside
[53:37] now. I'm about to walk into her
[53:38] house, blah, blah, blah. I will still be video calling
[53:41] with, you know, my ex at the time or my girlfriend there at
[53:44] the time. And I would then be texting her
[53:47] friend saying, OK, I'm with her now.
[53:49] She's not suspecting anything. Just go inside her apartment, go
[53:52] inside her room and act like everything is OK, right?
[53:56] You know, And her friend walk in.
[53:58] I'm like, oh hi, I was just about to call it in.
[54:00] Thank God. I didn't.
[54:04] I'll train my mind. Names held down.
[54:10] I was just about to, but yeah, so I'm like, oh, hi, what's up?
[54:14] And then she's like, she's just greeting me like she doesn't
[54:17] even know I'm on the call. You get and go hi.
[54:20] And then I text her and I say, oh, yeah, now is the time to get
[54:22] the stuff in. And while I'm on the phone, I'm
[54:25] seeing how good to bring this teddy bear Rosie's champagne.
[54:30] I just, you know, all the stuff that I'd gotten and, you know, I
[54:33] could see my my then girlfriend then she was so excited she was
[54:36] going. So yeah, I've always been the,
[54:39] you know, romantic kind. The thing about me is that me, I
[54:44] think I'll go. I'll, I'll ginger more.
[54:46] It was your birthday than Valentine's Day.
[54:48] Absolutely, I agree with that. Not just some people.
[54:51] That go so hard on Valentine's which is cool man is the
[54:54] universal kind of love and all this can be but me I've told you
[54:59] I've driven to states to go and drop cake for Betty Nah.
[55:03] Yeah, Valentine's lost to me. For me he lost the spark
[55:06] overtime. I think after my last
[55:07] relationship I. Mean after the whole thing we
[55:10] need mentality just locked in like this and I'm just like man.
[55:13] Yeah, but birthdays. Birthdays are always looking
[55:16] right. But Valentine's, I feel like
[55:17] it's this. Let me tell you.
[55:18] Let me just tell you how I see Valentine's right now.
[55:20] I see Valentine's as the modern way for the capitalist world to
[55:25] just access everybody's consumerism.
[55:28] Like, OK, we need you to buy shit.
[55:30] Like we need you to just buy shit.
[55:32] And so we told you that. Look right now.
[55:34] Celebrate love today, right? Now as we speak, there are more
[55:39] time vendors. And relationships case in points
[55:43] case in points. I know some people who only open
[55:47] for the year. This period all they do is they
[55:50] sell balloons and gift packs and this.
[55:52] Do you know the amount of Do you know the amount of?
[55:55] I hate that stuff so much bro. I dislike it, I despise it.
[55:59] It's like I detested money I. Mean this is sorry but just not
[56:06] take. I find the money to be extremely
[56:08] razz but. Bro I dislike that piece man.
[56:15] Bro transfer me that. People say I'm a hater but I
[56:18] find it to be extremely ghetto. Me what's razz?
[56:21] What's this thing? What's The Who says what is what
[56:23] at this point? Because you can't say what is
[56:25] razz these days, or thing or thing in general is no razz, but
[56:31] they determine what is. Can't say what is Raz or
[56:33] whatever. That's why I don't really say
[56:35] Raz. I don't like me.
[56:36] I don't hate DP. Yeah, To me, there's some things
[56:39] that just don't make sense. Some things you can almost see
[56:42] that there's no love in this. You people are just showing that
[56:44] somebody has money, somebody does not have money.
[56:46] And I'm just like, guys, come on.
[56:48] I'm not sure this is how Valentine's celebrated.
[56:51] It's no more like now, it's now I'm just who do this.
[56:54] Everybody's trying to post. Oh my God, Valentine, they came
[56:57] in, I got this, I got that. That's all it's about.
[56:59] So you know what I would also see?
[57:01] And this year, man. Yes, I would also see that.
[57:03] Post go reduced this year. The time, the time that I lost,
[57:06] the time that I lost interest in Valentine's, was actually when
[57:09] social media started to push it too much.
[57:10] Because now they came, you're going to somebody's story to see
[57:13] if they got anything. Then they didn't.
[57:14] They're like you did not give to Valentine's.
[57:16] Day. Well, to the extent now.
[57:17] Come on guys. Hey, come on, we've had it.
[57:19] We know it's true. You know how people buy fake
[57:22] boxes and just to. Just to act like yes now or they
[57:25] buy themselves. In general.
[57:28] It's not that deep. It's not that.
[57:29] So no, you know what I'll say if you're with someone, say, say,
[57:32] for example, you're with a partner and you see that the
[57:34] partner values Valentine's Day again, locking, right?
[57:38] Understand that that's what they love and love them the way they
[57:41] love to be loved. So of course, as much as I mean,
[57:44] you know, I'm just put a bunch of your points, right?
[57:46] Just as much as we see that we don't mess with it, by the time
[57:49] we meet, people who would genuinely love that do.
[57:51] Hey, it's just like birthdays. Birthdays for our own birthday.
[57:55] We don't. We don't really give a shit
[57:56] back. But somebody else's birthday was
[57:57] lucky while trying to go out trying to do all that.
[57:59] Stuff because I said that doesn't mean I've not had like.
[58:01] A double, of course. Yeah, of course of.
[58:03] Course going to Georgia. OK, you know what, let's
[58:06] hymantic vibes, let's highlight what's that?
[58:08] So remember the last episode we talked about like the eras of
[58:12] dating. We talked about say high school
[58:14] time. We talked about like uni time,
[58:16] we talked about post uni Valentine's experiences.
[58:21] Would you say that when we're in high school, there was just
[58:25] there was more rave around it then than now?
[58:28] What was it like? What would you say the
[58:30] differences were? Because in my perspective,
[58:33] Valentine's seemed very we all understood you give you get.
[58:39] I feel like it was uni that that bridge started to look a bit
[58:44] too, a little uneven where it was.
[58:46] You give, you might not get. Yeah.
[58:48] You might not get. You might not get.
[58:51] You might get maybe a hog, a Peck.
[58:54] Oh my God, that could be so sweet.
[58:56] Oh. You're like you're.
[58:58] Like 4 guy dropping the band and give that the that was the
[59:01] problem you know, you see uni was and everybody was too and we
[59:06] was too helter skelter. So you see somebody, you see
[59:09] somebody show up, you call a driver to come and bring a a car
[59:12] of a car of roses and this. I can't lie in secondary school.
[59:16] I can't lie in secondary school. That's sure how much I didn't
[59:19] really after the fest that's give me the hands about the
[59:22] whole Valentine's Day, like it meant to be a reciprocal of this
[59:23] thing. Yeah.
[59:24] It goes to the point where like now if we go for some or
[59:27] something like that, I would just pick up maybe a few of
[59:30] these northern dollar earrings just got like 5.
[59:34] I see what you mean. I see what you mean.
[59:35] Yeah. Wait, wait, hold on.
[59:36] Wait. Come down.
[59:37] No, no. No, no, hold on.
[59:37] You said like 5 go and finish it now.
[59:40] Finish. For Valentine's Day comes that
[59:42] is now because I know I'm single and I'm just Anyhow, I didn't
[59:47] hey man, I get a 5 Valentine's because hey come on.
[59:50] Hey, happy Valentine's Day. Actual Violet.
[59:52] Not like it's not, Oh my God, no, no, no, no, I know.
[59:55] But literally just come drop you that gift.
[59:57] I'm like, oh, happy Valentine's Day, just for the for the plots.
[1:00:01] Those based on womanizer moves on.
[1:00:03] Things based on based on what I hear, yeah.
[1:00:07] Now when shots, that was one. There's three final D3, final D.
[1:00:10] Yeah, but I would say that experience with Valentine's in
[1:00:12] high school was was purer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:00:16] Was purer. There wasn't really.
[1:00:17] No, only the guys should do it. Nah.
[1:00:20] No, it was a very. Good girls were what girls were
[1:00:23] locking. In girls are bringing in they
[1:00:25] give you a zoo, you. Get some kind of guess you'd be
[1:00:29] like, oh, she likes you like that, everybody.
[1:00:34] Was spending mommy and daddy's money now so it can't be.
[1:00:37] Leave me. You said no, Get mommy and
[1:00:38] daddy. You see somebody there.
[1:00:39] Are we going? To get you that kind of get you
[1:00:41] Richard G shock you're like. What's between gum inside which
[1:00:44] you talking about? You press the little button pops
[1:00:48] up on see Nepal because we accept the allegation.
[1:00:51] No, there's no accept it. There's no need for us.
[1:00:54] Never denied. And you know, I think the
[1:01:00] culture shock, the culture shock of experiencing that I'm moving
[1:01:04] to uni and seeing a whole different ball game of how
[1:01:07] things work. Yeah man was low without put us
[1:01:10] in a reality check. Was like a fight, fight, fight,
[1:01:14] fight, fight. Because you're.
[1:01:18] Talking to sets there is 4 guys on that then.
[1:01:23] Four guys that have so much leg that you can't even think about.
[1:01:25] I'm talking of your sets. You don't go to this not one guy
[1:01:28] in 300 level above you guys above you guys not bro what you
[1:01:32] want to do, man, You have to be. You have to be.
[1:01:34] You have to be. You have to be.
[1:01:37] See character building. You have to be the the one
[1:01:41] little bit gently came inside and I said I am you law the one.
[1:01:44] You have to be the one I. Can't remember, I think it was
[1:01:48] over the previous episode, somebody was sharing all the
[1:01:50] experience here on how they're talking about during their
[1:01:54] Valentine's time. You know, he had gotten gifts,
[1:01:56] everything, you know, something not I mean just within his
[1:01:59] budget, but still nice stuff. And he said, you know, he had
[1:02:03] gone to meet her, you know, you know how it used to be back
[1:02:05] then. If you're dating a girl in uni
[1:02:07] and you're out of uni and she's your Valentine's and you're
[1:02:10] sitting like door, you know, there's some guy you don't love,
[1:02:12] love you love the girl in uni. OK, you know, and you're going
[1:02:16] there to like, you know, show her how you feel, give her a
[1:02:18] gift and stuff like that. Then you get there and she's
[1:02:22] like, oh, nice is nice. But the real person that has
[1:02:25] really given her her Valentine's year just pulls up next in this
[1:02:28] nice black tinted Prado. You don't even know what the
[1:02:31] hell is going on inside. I was calm down and then you see
[1:02:34] how you see how like checking our phones, checking our phones
[1:02:37] like so can you hold on, please? I need to complete and you're
[1:02:41] watching live footage. You're watching it happen as she
[1:02:43] steps down from your car goes into the Prado.
[1:02:47] In fact, in fact, as she opens the Prado doors first red
[1:02:50] balloons that fall down that already lets you know that oh
[1:02:53] shit, they're kicking my babe. Oh shit, oh shit, here we go
[1:02:57] again. And so now the cut is a red.
[1:03:03] You see her with the balloons, come down, jump in excitement
[1:03:07] and enter the backseat. Your next snap comes in your
[1:03:10] head. Hooty Papa hooty.
[1:03:13] Where is my father? Because at that point, you know,
[1:03:22] actually, you know what I really like?
[1:03:24] It's just very off topic, but I really like 1 and I'm never sure
[1:03:27] how we get to do it, but a point of a sit down, maybe me, you are
[1:03:33] like 3 to 4 that guys just sit down and we try to recollect how
[1:03:38] guys feel how we because I'm sure some of us have been in
[1:03:42] those situations. What are you feeling in that
[1:03:44] very moment when you see her inside?
[1:03:47] Let me tell you from you, you know how they say your heart
[1:03:52] drops? Actually, I can feel it.
[1:03:55] Like, I can actually feel it. Like, oh, shit, I need to hold
[1:03:58] it. I can feel my heart drop.
[1:04:01] Your heart will start shaking. You don't know whether you want
[1:04:05] to, like, start driving back or if you wait a little bit,
[1:04:07] foreclosure. Maybe it's a mistake.
[1:04:09] Maybe that's her dad, you understand or not.
[1:04:13] Not her daddy. That's her dad.
[1:04:16] Maybe. And you're there like, oh, do I
[1:04:23] drive away with the gifts? Yeah.
[1:04:25] Then do I find somebody else that's worthy?
[1:04:26] You know, like I said, me in terms like this, there's always
[1:04:29] a soundtrack for that. Oh my God, I'm dying.
[1:04:32] I have points in time as it just happened.
[1:04:34] The only thing I will just please.
[1:04:36] Sometimes in life you feel the fire is over.
[1:04:39] I'm so dead. Over but it seems dude, right?
[1:04:45] Be like you don't spend some time you don't cry small for
[1:04:47] your but. I don't call it crying, but
[1:04:49] because. You just sober up.
[1:04:51] You just sober? Up.
[1:04:53] Like I said, music. You don't visit me.
[1:04:55] You guys speaking to me, man? Speaking to me, Pablo, you're
[1:04:59] speaking to me. What?
[1:05:02] There's a lot of character within that I think a lot of
[1:05:03] guys experienced during Valentine's Day, right?
[1:05:05] And I would really love for us to read.
[1:05:09] I mean, not that women don't give their men, don't get us
[1:05:11] wrong, but I really love to see a lot of.
[1:05:15] Non singlet and boxers. I was about to say that like non
[1:05:19] single and boxers gifts, like don't we really like to see
[1:05:22] that? You know, I want us to be able
[1:05:24] to walk like man, that's in 26th Valentine's Day.
[1:05:27] We just saw so many women gifts in their man, like it's the it's
[1:05:30] the most we've seen in a while. Let that be the energy because
[1:05:35] now don't get me wrong, go my baby.
[1:05:37] I wish she did. She gives like crazy.
[1:05:39] So I guess I'm lucky for you. I just got a break with that.
[1:05:42] But I know that a lot of guys don't get to experience a lot of
[1:05:45] that. It's always that key.
[1:05:46] Let me take for you, let me take for you, Let me take from Utah.
[1:05:49] I have been with people who definitely gifted even in my
[1:05:52] past, definitely gifted. But another thing also is that
[1:05:56] as a Nigerian guy, that experience shock throws you in a
[1:05:59] different place. What do you mean you are gifting
[1:06:01] me? Is there something attached to
[1:06:02] this? No matter how unused to that
[1:06:04] shit I was because driving I was not.
[1:06:06] The address broke out. This thing was not really
[1:06:08] happening. That's the truth about it.
[1:06:10] Damn, first time won't be. What did she do with this?
[1:06:12] What happened that day? She just took me out.
[1:06:16] Literally peed, went to this place, peed for the what do you
[1:06:21] want about. I was like Iron Man.
[1:06:23] I'll see that I see where I was what you see there.
[1:06:26] Then bought me bought me truck suit.
[1:06:28] And distant sneakers. I love like 3 years man.
[1:06:31] What do you mean the way you said for like I was expecting
[1:06:34] like two more. What do you mean for like that?
[1:06:36] Three years? Not your relationship.
[1:06:38] Bro, I was just. Fair enough.
[1:06:40] I was this kind of this happens. People don't get it, people.
[1:06:46] Don't get it, man, Don't get it. We've been through a lot.
[1:06:48] We've been through a lot. That experience.
[1:06:49] Find you a right one, man. Even in a relationship like you
[1:06:52] and you used to struggle with it because every year you're like,
[1:06:55] hey me, this girl is gifting. Me what do I do?
[1:06:59] My sister I see my sister did gift her boyfriend things gifts
[1:07:03] so me I thought. That's how it's.
[1:07:05] All more. No, no, no, no, no.
[1:07:13] There's some, there's some harsh realities that you know, some
[1:07:15] guys here will just tell you they're used to just being the
[1:07:18] ones to give. They don't even expect.
[1:07:20] I think that would be the point. The friend of mine that when
[1:07:22] he's, when he's talking about, you can't blame me because
[1:07:28] that's his own experience. It's unfortunate, but that's the
[1:07:31] reality of the experience most of us live.
[1:07:33] It's just not, again, not debunking that some girls don't
[1:07:36] give because I've met a lot who do.
[1:07:39] But we all know as guys who that what you are expecting is
[1:07:44] nothing. There's no expectation.
[1:07:47] Valentine's is coming and we're OK with this.
[1:07:49] Never. As if we're really complaining
[1:07:51] like that, but at the point where we've not gotten used.
[1:07:53] To it is what it is. It is what?
[1:07:56] It is. We want to get stressed.
[1:07:57] Yeah, and I mean, you know, again, if we continue, we're
[1:08:01] going to end up spending another two hours on this episode.
[1:08:03] But what I want to say finally though.
[1:08:05] Before you say that final thing, ladies and you know, ask your
[1:08:08] guys to just in case, ask us what do you guys want for this
[1:08:13] thing? Try and get to, you know, don't
[1:08:15] assume everybody wants to wear watch everybody like watch.
[1:08:17] That's true. Just find out, you know, it
[1:08:19] might just be a head rub that I did.
[1:08:20] I will start that day for the person you don't know.
[1:08:22] You know, that's what. I'm saying finally you get tried
[1:08:25] and I put efforts to we understand, yes, is our duty
[1:08:29] boy. You serve duty one or two.
[1:08:31] Let's meet not halfway Meet quarter safe comes up.
[1:08:36] Enter road at least let's meet somewhere.
[1:08:39] Enter Rd. You know, you know what I'm
[1:08:41] saying. This is part of my.
[1:08:42] This is part of my last things to say.
[1:08:44] Because I. Was going to what I was going to
[1:08:47] say was in the last in the closing remarks, closing remarks
[1:08:53] in the last few things we're going to say.
[1:08:56] One of them is have we have our perspectives on Valentine's even
[1:09:02] changed it a little bit? Do we still see it as men don't
[1:09:04] women don't gift anymore? 1/2 do women actually, or have
[1:09:10] we experienced women being intentional about their gifts?
[1:09:13] You know, like they, they, they watched your life, they studied
[1:09:15] you a little bit. And you know, you can't, you
[1:09:17] can't tell from the gift that Nah, this babe, this babe, this
[1:09:20] babe. No, see those things is
[1:09:22] literally the bearer. This, like you said, the very
[1:09:24] smallest thing, like you guys always want people.
[1:09:26] To have a. Friend who was talking some
[1:09:28] trick in the overseas, OK, they were just talking, talking about
[1:09:32] part of that conversation was oh how mosquito to give this place.
[1:09:37] I swear she just bought that fly swatter stuff and sent it to the
[1:09:40] house. You might have dropped it bro.
[1:09:43] Like I don't even know how I don't, but I felt I was like
[1:09:47] that's how you do this shit man, just embarrass me.
[1:09:50] What's that? How much is that stuff?
[1:09:51] How was that the most randomness gift bought?
[1:09:55] You listened. Do you know that?
[1:09:57] You know that if let's say, for example, I'm talking with
[1:10:01] someone and you know, halfway through just us talking, you
[1:10:05] know, we've been talking every day.
[1:10:07] I talk about how I mean every time I keep this road keeps
[1:10:11] pulling my and I hear see, you know, she's like, hey, you know
[1:10:15] what, I just I contacted her mechanic.
[1:10:17] He says she has always caused this ring, ring, ring.
[1:10:21] You see, and the truth is they don't seem to understand that
[1:10:27] it's this simple. I mean, most times since like
[1:10:30] it's only when like they get married.
[1:10:31] Is that the It's that simple. You think we be careful?
[1:10:35] Give me teddy bear. Give me balloon.
[1:10:37] Balloon words. I don't.
[1:10:38] Just buy tire for. Did he marry?
[1:10:42] I hope he did. Tires.
[1:10:44] Tires. You buy me tires.
[1:10:46] I won't just get married to you. I'll carry the child.
[1:10:49] Don't worry, whatever you plan to do, I'll be your surrogates.
[1:10:53] No worry on. That.
[1:10:55] Note All right, guys, so again, we wish you guys a happy
[1:10:58] Valentine's Day and we really hope that everyone has a great
[1:11:02] time Yeah, we're going out there.
[1:11:04] We're going to have a great time as much as we can.
[1:11:07] And we really pray that, you know, everyone expresses love
[1:11:10] how best they can and in whatever forms they can.
[1:11:13] Don't be confined to how society tells you to express love.
[1:11:17] Do your own thing, be happy and happy Valentine's Day.
[1:11:21] But until next time, guys, it's your favorite podcast again.
[1:11:24] And before we go, don't forget to always subscribe to our
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[1:11:39] Did you also tell? Your enemies, remember?
[1:11:41] Oh yeah, Tell your enemies as well.
[1:11:42] Your enemies will learn 18 or 20 from us.
[1:11:45] But also next time, guys, I'm very welcome, Claire.
[1:11:48] And I'm Mr. Mark Kwunzu and this is?

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