# Frank Zappa Makes a $1,000 Sex Tape, and Bob Dylan Is a Peeping Tom?

An episode of [Ridiculous Crime](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1608230191), 16 Apr 2024, 54 min.

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Musicians get arrested... a lot. These singers, songwriters and superstars were busted in some of the dumbest, weirdest, silliest ways possible. Johnny Cash. Amy Winehouse. Ol' Dirty Bastard. Bob Dylan. Frank Zappa. All of them got popped for some... ridiculous crimes. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.
[0:03] Speaker 2: Oh, Elizabeth dun I'm so glad to see you again.
[0:07] Speaker 3: I'm glad to see me every day. Like that smile
[0:10] Speaker 3: you're wearing is nice.
[0:12] Speaker 2: I got a question for you. You know what is ridiculous?
[0:16] Speaker 3: Yes, two things, Well tell me one of them. Okay.
[0:19] Speaker 4: The first one, it's not a mash up. The first
[0:23] Speaker 4: one is that we have we have a rude dude
[0:25] Speaker 4: in the studio with us today. That's not my stomach
[0:29] Speaker 4: making those nice.
[0:30] Speaker 2: Okay, I couldn't see. I just heard, Yes.
[0:32] Speaker 3: We got we got a dog in the studio.
[0:34] Speaker 2: Oh nice.
[0:35] Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a rude dude. Pull on, rude dude, legit,
[0:38] Speaker 4: golden retriever.
[0:39] Speaker 2: Rude dude.
[0:39] Speaker 4: He's wearing sunglasses. His name is Mickey, and so he's
[0:43] Speaker 4: kind of going to town on a kong right now. Okay,
[0:46] Speaker 4: And I just want to give you heads up if
[0:47] Speaker 4: you hear anything, it's not me.
[0:48] Speaker 3: That's the dog.
[0:49] Speaker 2: I got you so too.
[0:51] Speaker 4: The other thing that's ridiculous, it's not a mashup. It's
[0:56] Speaker 4: Mickey's date. Mickey told me it's an update that the
[1:01] Speaker 4: guy remember the golden toilet that was stolen? They arrested
[1:06] Speaker 4: some people, and I think I talked about that as
[1:08] Speaker 4: an update. One of them pled guilty. Whoa James Sheen,
[1:12] Speaker 4: aged thirty nine, pleaded guilty to burglary, converting or transferring
[1:18] Speaker 4: criminal property and conspiracy to do the same. And so
[1:23] Speaker 4: he appeared in court via video link from prison. Yeah,
[1:26] Speaker 4: because he's serving a seventeen year sentence there for thefts
[1:30] Speaker 4: including stealing tractors. Oh so, high value trophies from the
[1:35] Speaker 4: National Horse Racing Museum in Newmarket worth a total of
[1:39] Speaker 4: four hundred thousand pounds.
[1:41] Speaker 2: I wonder why he flipped.
[1:42] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[1:43] Speaker 4: But there are other dudes. Michael Jones thirty eight, Frederick
[1:47] Speaker 4: Signs aka Frederick Doe, and then Bora Guckock from West London.
[1:56] Speaker 4: They also got charged. They're going to stand trial in
[1:58] Speaker 4: February twenty twenty five.
[2:00] Speaker 2: Okay, So I got that to look forward to.
[2:02] Speaker 4: You know, we really do, we really do. And so that,
[2:05] Speaker 4: my friend, is ridiculous. Two ridiculous things.
[2:08] Speaker 2: Double dips.
[2:09] Speaker 3: I know you got a second I do.
[2:11] Speaker 2: I got one for you. Yes, it's about musicians, some
[2:14] Speaker 2: of your favorite people.
[2:15] Speaker 3: You know. I love this.
[2:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, musicians are getting busted. Oh I love that yeah,
[2:18] Speaker 2: the funny way, like peeping in windows and sniffing flowers
[2:22] Speaker 2: and waiting in the McDonald's drive through. Wait what Yeah,
[2:45] Speaker 2: this is a ridiculous crime A podcast about absurd and
[2:50] Speaker 2: outrageous capers, heights and cons always ninety nine percent murder
[2:53] Speaker 2: free and one hundred percent ridiculous. Yay, Elizabeth. I was
[3:00] Speaker 2: telling a friend a story the other day and then
[3:02] Speaker 2: were you, Yeah, I get it, I'm a storyteller. They
[3:07] Speaker 2: referenced the story I'm about to tell you, and then
[3:10] Speaker 2: I had to go and look it up because I'd
[3:11] Speaker 2: never heard it before, and I wanted to make sure
[3:12] Speaker 2: that they got all the details right before I told
[3:14] Speaker 2: it to you. Okay, I was like, I don't want
[3:16] Speaker 2: to look like an idiot front of Elizabeth.
[3:17] Speaker 3: Never. That's never happened, never once.
[3:20] Speaker 2: But then, as I'm researching and it came across a
[3:22] Speaker 2: bunch of other similar stories, I was like, well, since
[3:25] Speaker 2: this one isn't too long, I'll just throw in a
[3:27] Speaker 2: few others just for free. I love it because I
[3:29] Speaker 2: like you, Thank you so much. Okay, first step, I
[3:32] Speaker 2: consider this one an appetizer of crime, right, Okay. On
[3:35] Speaker 2: May eleventh, nineteen sixty five, the Man in Black. Johnny
[3:38] Speaker 2: Cash was at Mississippi State University playing a show. So
[3:42] Speaker 2: he performs that night. Afterwards, you know, he he gets
[3:45] Speaker 2: out there, he sings his songs, picks his guitar, you know,
[3:48] Speaker 2: Johnny cashes them all up, and then he goes outside
[3:50] Speaker 2: to cool his head. Right, And it must have been
[3:52] Speaker 2: like a nice spring night that May night, because Cash
[3:56] Speaker 2: he goes for a walk. At some point on his walk,
[3:59] Speaker 2: he stopped. Now why did he stop.
[4:01] Speaker 3: Elizabeth walking ceased?
[4:04] Speaker 2: No to he stopped to smell the flowers. Literally stopped
[4:10] Speaker 2: to smell the flowers. That's what Johnny Cash is doing that.
[4:13] Speaker 2: I know you really do.
[4:14] Speaker 4: I mean, like, especially you get Jasmine in blue, just
[4:17] Speaker 4: go huff.
[4:18] Speaker 2: It where you get like saved smells for later.
[4:21] Speaker 3: Like captured in a jar.
[4:25] Speaker 2: That was nice. I needed that. They're going like a
[4:27] Speaker 2: public restroom and like.
[4:28] Speaker 3: I don't want to save that smell.
[4:30] Speaker 2: No, No, that's the one that's when you use the smell.
[4:33] Speaker 4: You're in there and you're like, this smells so bad,
[4:36] Speaker 4: I want to smell it later public.
[4:39] Speaker 2: I want to share this one with my buddy. He
[4:41] Speaker 2: needs to smell all right, Well, okay, Elizabeth Flowers sniffer.
[4:46] Speaker 2: So Johnny Cash, he's like you right, And so he's
[4:48] Speaker 2: out there sniffing flowers in the moonlight, and uh, all
[4:52] Speaker 2: of a sudden, cops stop and they're like, ye know, sorry,
[4:54] Speaker 2: what's going on. I'm just smelling flowers? Right, And then
[4:57] Speaker 2: now the responding officers according to Johnny Cash quote, I
[5:01] Speaker 2: reached down and picked a dandelion here and a daisy
[5:03] Speaker 2: there as I went along, and this car pulls up, right,
[5:06] Speaker 2: it was the fuzz Elizabeth, the Popo, the five oh,
[5:08] Speaker 2: the one time. Right. They didn't take too kindly to
[5:11] Speaker 2: this flower sniffing man out there sniffing another man's flowers
[5:14] Speaker 2: in the middle of the night. So the cops arrest
[5:17] Speaker 2: Johnny Cash on charges of public drunkenness. What year was this,
[5:21] Speaker 2: nineteen sixty five?
[5:22] Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm just imagining where he was in his life, Yes, yes, exactly.
[5:26] Speaker 2: So you know, maybe he was drunk, maybe he was
[5:28] Speaker 2: just flower drunk. Who knows, but that meant a knight
[5:31] Speaker 2: in the clink the county jail, right, the whoscow Now,
[5:34] Speaker 2: his cellmate was a fifteen year old boy named Smoky Evans.
[5:37] Speaker 3: Wait, wait what a name?
[5:40] Speaker 5: Right?
[5:40] Speaker 2: Fifteen year old fifteen year old named Smoky Evans, now
[5:43] Speaker 2: the flower sniffer. He's mad about his arrest, so, being
[5:46] Speaker 2: Johnny Cash, he acts out right. So Cash he kicks
[5:49] Speaker 2: the cell wall all hard, hard enough to bust his
[5:51] Speaker 2: own foot. Right, he ends up breaking a toe. So
[5:54] Speaker 2: now his foot starts to swell up with pain enough
[5:57] Speaker 2: that he wants to take his shoes off. Right, So
[5:59] Speaker 2: he takes his shoes off, and he looks at the
[6:01] Speaker 2: fifteen year old boys old his cellmates, Smoky Evans, and
[6:04] Speaker 2: according to the country legend, he said, here's a souvenir.
[6:07] Speaker 2: I'm Johnny Cash. So he gives him his shoes. Wait,
[6:11] Speaker 2: can you imagine that you're in Starksville, Mississippi. You get
[6:14] Speaker 2: wrung up on I don't know. Some bs charges like
[6:16] Speaker 2: public drunkenness because of the local deputies. They don't like
[6:19] Speaker 2: the look of you. Now you're in the cell, just
[6:21] Speaker 2: trying to get through the night. In comes Johnny Cash
[6:23] Speaker 2: and he gives you his shoes.
[6:25] Speaker 4: Wow, I wonder what I really do? Wonder what Smokey
[6:27] Speaker 4: was in on? Yeah, I do not know, like spree killer.
[6:34] Speaker 3: And Johnny Cash is like, here, take my shoes. And
[6:36] Speaker 3: he finds out later He's like, what have I done?
[6:39] Speaker 2: I gave a man to kill seven get canceled. So anyway,
[6:43] Speaker 2: after his night in jail, Johnny Cash he walked out
[6:45] Speaker 2: of that cell with a happy memory and with a
[6:47] Speaker 2: song because he later wrote a song called Starksville City Jail,
[6:51] Speaker 2: Oh Yeah about his time inside Mississippi. Now. In nineteen
[6:54] Speaker 2: sixty nine, Johnny Cash he played a very famous show
[6:57] Speaker 2: in San Quentin Prison along with Fulsom Prison Blues. He
[7:00] Speaker 2: also performed another car sar Roles Folks on Starksville City Jail,
[7:04] Speaker 2: Oh Wow. And Johnny Cash told the guys in San
[7:06] Speaker 2: Quentin and I quote, you wouldn't believe it. One night
[7:09] Speaker 2: I got in jail in Starkville, Mississippi for picking flowers.
[7:12] Speaker 2: I was walking down the street and uhuh, you know,
[7:15] Speaker 2: going to get me some cigarettes or something heavy emphasis
[7:18] Speaker 2: on the or something or something. Anyway, back to Jr.
[7:21] Speaker 2: Because that's what his friends called him, Elizabeth Jr. About
[7:23] Speaker 2: two in the morning, after a show I think it was. Anyway,
[7:26] Speaker 2: I reached down and picked a dandelion here and daisy there.
[7:29] Speaker 2: As I went along and this car pulls up, he said,
[7:31] Speaker 2: get it the hell in there, boy, what are you
[7:33] Speaker 2: doing I said, I'm just picking flowers. Well, thirty six
[7:37] Speaker 2: dollars for picking flowers and a night in jail, you
[7:39] Speaker 2: can't hardly win, can you. No telling what they'd do
[7:42] Speaker 2: if I pull an apple or something. I'd like to
[7:44] Speaker 2: get back at the fellow down in Starksville, Mississippi that
[7:47] Speaker 2: still has my thirty six dollars. Now, somehow Johnny Cash
[7:51] Speaker 2: can make getting busted for flower picking sound cool as hell.
[7:54] Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're in San Quentin. Yeah, and you've like,
[7:57] Speaker 4: if you're in San Quentin, you've done some san Quentin yeah,
[8:00] Speaker 4: more than flower picking.
[8:01] Speaker 3: And here's this guy. Man, they got me a flower
[8:03] Speaker 3: pick and they're.
[8:04] Speaker 2: Like, uh huh sure, all right, Ja.
[8:07] Speaker 3: No, you know, I was caught with a necklace full
[8:09] Speaker 3: of ears, like.
[8:11] Speaker 2: Stop. I thought you could be like I robbed three banks,
[8:15] Speaker 2: No necklace.
[8:16] Speaker 3: Full of ears?
[8:17] Speaker 2: Like, okay, you know what I'm gonna go to the
[8:20] Speaker 2: next one. It involves our girl, Amy Winehouse. Oh yeah,
[8:24] Speaker 2: two thousand and nine. At the time, Amy Winehouse was
[8:26] Speaker 2: in Milton, Keynes. Okay, I had never heard of this. Really,
[8:30] Speaker 2: it's a town I don't know, Milton No. I know,
[8:33] Speaker 2: Like anyway, in case you're wondering that's a city in
[8:36] Speaker 2: England like me and you're an idiot. Specifically it's in Buckinghamshire, No,
[8:40] Speaker 2: which I looked up. It's roughly fifty miles outside of
[8:43] Speaker 2: London on the on a northwest heading. Okay, anyway, Amy
[8:47] Speaker 2: Winehouse at the theater. She was at a pantomime theater.
[8:50] Speaker 3: So mine panto? No, it's not mine.
[8:52] Speaker 4: No, No, it's like that's like a Christmas thing, Like, oh,
[8:56] Speaker 4: that's what those like wall productions.
[8:58] Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're very campy. Okay, So she's at the participation.
[9:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, I know those. I thought those were just specifically Christmas.
[9:05] Speaker 3: I didn't know they did sell the pantos. Yeah.
[9:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, well this play was Cinderella.
[9:09] Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's what they do.
[9:11] Speaker 4: It's not necessarily always at Christmas, but like, okay, I
[9:14] Speaker 4: mean the guess that's probably happened around Christmas. No, but
[9:19] Speaker 4: but yeah, no, it's like it's kids shows and that
[9:22] Speaker 4: kind of stuff.
[9:22] Speaker 3: Okay, Well, so.
[9:23] Speaker 2: She was a panto yeah, and I kid you not.
[9:26] Speaker 2: There was someone else famous there.
[9:28] Speaker 3: She was in the audience, in the audience. How amazing
[9:30] Speaker 3: is that that you go.
[9:31] Speaker 4: To alla panto and sitting next to just zonked out
[9:35] Speaker 4: of her gorge.
[9:36] Speaker 2: And not only that, but on stage is Mickey Rooney?
[9:39] Speaker 3: Stop it?
[9:40] Speaker 4: I was so when I got to the r and
[9:42] Speaker 4: I was like, please say Mickey Rock, Please say Mickey Rock.
[9:46] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[9:46] Speaker 2: When I first read it, I thought it was the
[9:48] Speaker 2: typo or like some kid who's English and had the
[9:50] Speaker 2: same name. But I looked it up. He was alive
[9:53] Speaker 2: in two thousand, nine years old. Oh, I looked for it.
[9:56] Speaker 2: He lived for four more years. He was like eighty
[9:58] Speaker 2: nine years older at that time. I'm right, okay, hey,
[10:01] Speaker 2: he died in twenty fourteen. Anyway, So you got this
[10:03] Speaker 2: eighty nine year old powerhouse Mickey Rooney up on stage
[10:06] Speaker 2: doing Cinderella and Amy Winehouse right, Yeah. I guess she
[10:10] Speaker 2: wasn't too into their rendition of Cinderella because she starts
[10:13] Speaker 2: heckling the show. So Cinderella's stepsisters appear on stage and
[10:17] Speaker 2: Amy Winehouse loudly calls him bitches right, just right, it
[10:22] Speaker 2: keeps going right. Another characters that goes on stage and
[10:24] Speaker 2: they're like sneaking up on someone and Amy Winehouse shouts.
[10:27] Speaker 3: He's behind you, right. Oh, and it's not it's not
[10:32] Speaker 3: even charming. No, it's just not Amy, it's not charming.
[10:36] Speaker 4: Because we know her fate, but also like just drunks
[10:39] Speaker 4: and addicts doing that kind of stuff.
[10:41] Speaker 2: If it was like Mary Fitzgerald.
[10:43] Speaker 3: Doing this is a four year old, huh, I love that.
[10:46] Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
[10:47] Speaker 3: Cussing children, heckling four years.
[10:49] Speaker 2: Cussing children, bring it on. But I agree with if
[10:53] Speaker 2: there was any normal person just drunk at the show
[10:56] Speaker 2: shouting terrible right. Yeah, but I'm still rooting for her
[10:59] Speaker 2: at this point on the story because well, anyway, she
[11:03] Speaker 2: keeps going on. Whatever she was looking out for people,
[11:05] Speaker 2: she's just trying to warn them of imminent danger. Who knows.
[11:08] Speaker 4: Wait, when you first read this, you thought they were
[11:10] Speaker 4: miming the whole thing and it's all quiet.
[11:13] Speaker 2: Well, no, I thought, I thought. I went back and forth.
[11:15] Speaker 2: The first time I read it. I thought it was
[11:17] Speaker 2: the pantomime, like like the Ludicrous. Then I thought, oh,
[11:20] Speaker 2: I'm probably wrong. Is pantomime like actual mimes? So I imagined
[11:23] Speaker 2: it like silent and she's just shouting us with the
[11:30] Speaker 2: makeup and everything, like Marcel Marcel. But it's in the
[11:33] Speaker 2: key Rooney anyway, So this other point the theater, it's
[11:39] Speaker 2: it's just all quiet except for like little footsteps of
[11:43] Speaker 2: like Chinese flats, you know on the stage ballerinas shoes anyway,
[11:48] Speaker 2: yells at later on sendez prince chomming, marry me right?
[11:53] Speaker 2: So it now she's like, oh, boy, yeah, I don't
[11:55] Speaker 2: know if there's kids at this show. If it's just
[11:57] Speaker 2: adults going at.
[11:58] Speaker 3: We like, oh there's usually kids.
[11:59] Speaker 2: That's my That's what I'm thinking, right anyway, So the
[12:01] Speaker 2: theater staff they come in, they get called in, probably
[12:03] Speaker 2: by parents, like you got to call that long totally right.
[12:07] Speaker 2: The staffy they politely tell her to pipe down right,
[12:10] Speaker 2: but then at this point her eyres up right, so
[12:12] Speaker 2: Amy A. Winehouse tells the staff were to stick it right,
[12:14] Speaker 2: and she gets ordered back to her seat. She refuses
[12:17] Speaker 2: to sit down. Theater manager they get called in, they
[12:19] Speaker 2: were're supposed to like, oh, what what's going on here?
[12:21] Speaker 5: Right?
[12:21] Speaker 2: And I try to settle things down. By the way,
[12:24] Speaker 2: the theater's manager's name was Richard Pound. In America, he'd
[12:28] Speaker 2: be called Dick Pound right sown. Yeah, now, my man
[12:31] Speaker 2: Dick Pound from Poundtown, Richard if he ain't nasty, he
[12:34] Speaker 2: goes and gets in Amy Winehouse's face, and then she
[12:38] Speaker 2: got in his right right back, right, And eventually he
[12:41] Speaker 2: came to blows and Amy winehouse. You know she could
[12:43] Speaker 2: throw those things, right, So she's mixing it up. She
[12:46] Speaker 2: gets in a few good chops, and she gets in
[12:48] Speaker 2: like some real blows, maybe a jab uppercut comedy. I
[12:51] Speaker 2: don't know what she's working. Oh yeah, she pulled some
[12:55] Speaker 2: of his hair, right, yeah she did. Oh yeah, right,
[12:57] Speaker 2: real like stri Oh yeah, like what is it? School
[13:00] Speaker 2: yard style?
[13:01] Speaker 3: Right?
[13:02] Speaker 2: She also didn't use just two limbs, she used all
[13:04] Speaker 2: four that God gave her. So she's kicking an a
[13:07] Speaker 2: punching and yeah, so she's kicking the fanny of old
[13:10] Speaker 2: Dick pound right.
[13:11] Speaker 3: And then so the cost you're talking about britz.
[13:14] Speaker 2: Yeah, because oh right, sorry, So the bobbies they show
[13:20] Speaker 2: up and they arrest Amy Whine. Now she gets charged
[13:22] Speaker 2: with common assault. I don't know if that's like assaulting commoners,
[13:25] Speaker 2: like you didn't assault a.
[13:26] Speaker 3: Royal commonplar she was.
[13:29] Speaker 5: It was just.
[13:30] Speaker 2: Common that extraordinary assault basic. So she gets busted under
[13:34] Speaker 2: her legal name, Amy Sivil that was her married name.
[13:37] Speaker 2: That was the last name of Rex's husband, Blackfielder Civil.
[13:40] Speaker 2: And so when she appeared before a magistrate in court,
[13:42] Speaker 2: her fine was eighty five pounds and another one hundred
[13:45] Speaker 2: pounds to ode to Dick Pound for damages.
[13:48] Speaker 3: Well that's worth it. The entertainment value.
[13:50] Speaker 2: It's like an up charge really, I mean, it's like
[13:52] Speaker 2: paying for first class seats on a plane.
[13:54] Speaker 3: You're like, hey, right out, yeah, extra one.
[13:56] Speaker 2: Hundred and eighty five pounds and you can yell at
[13:57] Speaker 2: the actors and you get to fight Dick Pound to
[14:01] Speaker 2: get a free dight in jail.
[14:02] Speaker 4: You have to excuse my wheezing. I've just recovered from pneumonia.
[14:06] Speaker 2: Oh you got the walking kind or the dancing kind?
[14:09] Speaker 4: Walky, I have the common you got dancing pneumonia, spectacular pneumonia.
[14:14] Speaker 2: So I got another one for you.
[14:16] Speaker 3: Yeah okay, Odb oh yeah aka.
[14:19] Speaker 2: Yeah big Baby Jesus aka Dirt McGirt aka the Osirius
[14:24] Speaker 2: of this is okay.
[14:26] Speaker 4: So I'm say, you know, like just for the uninitiated
[14:29] Speaker 4: from the Wu Tang clan.
[14:31] Speaker 3: Yes, a wrapper, Yes.
[14:33] Speaker 2: A wrapper from the Wu Tang clan. Now I'm keeping
[14:36] Speaker 2: things a little spicy, Elizabeth, this one just the way
[14:38] Speaker 2: Dirty would like it, lizib But you go from Amy
[14:40] Speaker 2: Winehouse to Odb, we got to keep things extra spicy.
[14:44] Speaker 2: So this story, it goes nine years before Amy Winehouse
[14:48] Speaker 2: mix it up with Dick Pound on October twenty eighth,
[14:51] Speaker 2: two thousand old dirty Bathrooms the Wu Tang Clan. He's
[14:54] Speaker 2: in a Philadelphia McDonald's drive through.
[14:56] Speaker 3: Okay, as we've all been.
[14:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, of course right now. At the time, the mercurial
[14:59] Speaker 2: wrapper was on the Lamb yeah.
[15:03] Speaker 3: Through the drive through.
[15:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, like he had escaped from a Lamb rodeo get off.
[15:11] Speaker 2: So this all requires a explanation because these were charges
[15:14] Speaker 2: in multiple jurisdictions. Right, the trouble essentially starts in February
[15:18] Speaker 2: ninety nine. At that time he was driving around LA.
[15:21] Speaker 2: He didn't have a license at least on him, or
[15:23] Speaker 2: actually not a license. And by not only that, he
[15:25] Speaker 2: was also wearing a bulletproof vest.
[15:27] Speaker 3: Right, that's wrong with that.
[15:28] Speaker 2: It was illegal at the time in California. In fact,
[15:31] Speaker 2: he was the first convicted felon on the new.
[15:33] Speaker 3: Laws really broke it in.
[15:37] Speaker 2: Right at a lucky law. No, I guess there was
[15:39] Speaker 2: other things that felons had to give up. Besides their
[15:42] Speaker 2: right to vote. They also had to give up their
[15:43] Speaker 2: right to a bulletproo vest.
[15:44] Speaker 3: Oh, so it was only felons.
[15:46] Speaker 2: Convicted felons were not allowed to wear a bulletproof vests
[15:49] Speaker 2: in California according to the new law. I think it's
[15:51] Speaker 2: been since repealed.
[15:52] Speaker 3: Anyway, doesn't sound very safety mind.
[15:54] Speaker 2: It was after that in North Hollywood robbery where the
[15:56] Speaker 2: guys walked in and like looking like I don't know,
[15:58] Speaker 2: modern armored nights and yeah, so ODIB right, a few
[16:04] Speaker 2: weeks later after that, he was in New York, right,
[16:07] Speaker 2: and he gets busted again for drug possession. I have
[16:09] Speaker 2: marijuana and crack cocaine. He had twenty vials of crack on.
[16:13] Speaker 3: Him, so you know, like intent to distribute.
[16:16] Speaker 2: A weekend's amount, right long weekend if you're ODB. So yeah,
[16:20] Speaker 2: they're also traffic violations, not drug traffic, just like street violations.
[16:24] Speaker 2: Right now, fast forward October two thousand. Now ODB is
[16:27] Speaker 2: in a court ordered drug treatment facility.
[16:29] Speaker 3: Yeah, he busts.
[16:31] Speaker 2: Out right, he's like, I got an exactly, goes on
[16:34] Speaker 2: the lamb for a month. Now, what does he do
[16:36] Speaker 2: on that time?
[16:37] Speaker 3: Hops on a lamb down the street.
[16:40] Speaker 2: So he rides that lamb over to Rizz's recording studio. Oh,
[16:43] Speaker 2: he drops some fresh bars. Then he goes and he
[16:46] Speaker 2: shows up at the Hammerstein.
[16:49] Speaker 4: I'm here to say I love ridding Lambs in a
[16:52] Speaker 4: crazy way, and then just took off.
[16:54] Speaker 3: Was like Grammy.
[16:56] Speaker 2: So they're at the Hammerstein Ballroom for a record release
[16:59] Speaker 2: party for Wu Tang's two thousand album The w Right.
[17:03] Speaker 2: For the brief time he was there, ODB tells the crowd,
[17:06] Speaker 2: I can't stay on stage two long tonight. The cops
[17:08] Speaker 2: is after me, right.
[17:09] Speaker 3: So good way to announce that.
[17:12] Speaker 2: Well, he had a plan though. His whole plan was
[17:13] Speaker 2: gonna live like a bird, right, So people were like, oh,
[17:16] Speaker 2: what does that mean? Dirt his life windmill. He planned
[17:21] Speaker 2: on staying on this side of the grass by nurturing
[17:23] Speaker 2: himself quote on bird seed or whatever.
[17:25] Speaker 3: You'll see birds see.
[17:27] Speaker 2: Yeah, So then the crowd's like, good luck, Dirt. So
[17:30] Speaker 2: later that same month, October twenty eighth, he travels to Philly,
[17:33] Speaker 2: right and specifically South Philly, which makes a difference because
[17:37] Speaker 2: he was at the McDonald's at twenty ninth and grayce
[17:40] Speaker 2: Faerry Avenue. Sure, if you're looking for a McDonald's in.
[17:42] Speaker 3: The area, it's fantastic. I've never been there.
[17:44] Speaker 2: So he was at the drive through, sitting in a
[17:46] Speaker 2: ninety one Mitsubishi Galant with new Jersey plates. Yeah, it's ODB.
[17:51] Speaker 2: Someone recognizes him. He draws a crowd, so what does
[17:53] Speaker 2: he do. He starts rapping for the fans right, signed
[17:55] Speaker 2: autographs in the drive through line. And also because he's ODB,
[17:58] Speaker 2: he attracts the attention of the local Philly police. So
[18:01] Speaker 2: Officer Rebecca Anderson, she like sees this crowd going crazy,
[18:05] Speaker 2: she looks over, she recognizes the rapper. She recognizes him
[18:08] Speaker 2: because her son was a huge fan of Wu Tang
[18:10] Speaker 2: had all the images albums around. She's like, oh, I
[18:13] Speaker 2: know that guy. He's on the LAMB. I've seen recently
[18:15] Speaker 2: the you know abbs for him, right right, So she
[18:18] Speaker 2: goes and.
[18:19] Speaker 4: He was there messing around in the drive through long
[18:22] Speaker 4: enough for the cops to show him exactly like.
[18:26] Speaker 2: Okay, So her superior on the force, Sergeant mel Williams,
[18:30] Speaker 2: he said she knew from listening to his music and
[18:33] Speaker 2: knew he was wanted by police. She stopped him and
[18:35] Speaker 2: found out it was him, very straight, straight.
[18:37] Speaker 3: Straight forward, That's exactly what happened.
[18:39] Speaker 2: And she didn't ask for an autograph and said she
[18:40] Speaker 2: just arrests him.
[18:41] Speaker 3: Right.
[18:41] Speaker 2: He spends the next few days in a Philly holding
[18:43] Speaker 2: cell until he was processed and extra added to New
[18:46] Speaker 2: York City. Getting busted in a Mickey DA's drive through
[18:49] Speaker 2: line is probably one of the most odb ways to
[18:51] Speaker 2: get incredible. I just hope he got the shake, you know.
[18:54] Speaker 2: I hope there was a shake, like always broken. Machine's
[18:56] Speaker 2: always broken, right, I hope you're in luck, odb, We
[18:59] Speaker 2: got a shake for you.
[19:01] Speaker 3: We'll turn the machine back on.
[19:02] Speaker 2: All right. Let's take a little break, Elizabeth. There sells
[19:04] Speaker 2: some shakes, and we'll be back in two and two
[19:06] Speaker 2: with more ridiculous busts. Excellent, Elizabeth Zen, This is the
[19:32] Speaker 2: story I wanted to tell you.
[19:33] Speaker 3: Oh this okay?
[19:35] Speaker 2: Bob Dylan Yes, aka Robert Zimmerman aka Bobby no digital
[19:42] Speaker 2: free wheeling one. Okay. This story took place in two
[19:45] Speaker 2: thousand and nine, same year Amy Winehouse got busted for
[19:48] Speaker 2: the pantomime theater right there. No, so this one is
[19:52] Speaker 2: a July twenty third. He was in Long Branch, New Jersey.
[19:54] Speaker 3: Didn't fight Mickey Rooney that year.
[19:58] Speaker 4: Everyone went at Mickey Rooney.
[20:00] Speaker 2: You see Mickey Rooney, you're getting busted.
[20:03] Speaker 3: Oh god, but it's only celebrities are going out.
[20:05] Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly so New Jersey cop. Right, they spot this
[20:10] Speaker 2: suspicious man walking alone in the pouring rain. Right, the cop.
[20:13] Speaker 2: She has to assume that this is the same man
[20:16] Speaker 2: that is motivated. Nervous residents are in the area to
[20:19] Speaker 2: phone the police.
[20:20] Speaker 3: Oh. Interesting, So the older.
[20:21] Speaker 2: Man had been seen pairing into windows of vacant homes.
[20:24] Speaker 2: He looked like he might be a squatter, perhaps a
[20:27] Speaker 2: homeless man looking for a place to get out of
[20:29] Speaker 2: the rain. Naturally, the neighbors they phone the cops. I'll worry.
[20:32] Speaker 2: The cops promptly show up. Officer Christie Bubble, she responded
[20:36] Speaker 2: to the call.
[20:36] Speaker 3: I can't laugh at people's names like this.
[20:38] Speaker 2: Oh I can all the time. I got more names coming, so, yeah,
[20:42] Speaker 2: Christie Bubble. She also, by the way, that's Christie Bubble
[20:45] Speaker 2: with one bee. But in all this news stories it's
[20:47] Speaker 2: pronounced bubble like they want you to know. It's not
[20:51] Speaker 2: like that guy Michael whatever. Bob. Yeah, no Bubble, it's
[20:54] Speaker 2: bubble around here, one bee Bubble. I'm like, okay anyway,
[20:58] Speaker 2: Officer Christy Bubble responded to call. She drove out, she
[21:01] Speaker 2: located the suspect. She got out of her patrol vehicle.
[21:03] Speaker 2: She confronted the suspicious man. He told her he was
[21:06] Speaker 2: Bob Dylan. Now, luckily you don't have to take my
[21:09] Speaker 2: word for it, because we have Officer Christie Bubble to
[21:12] Speaker 2: tell you what all went down when she tried to
[21:14] Speaker 2: bust Bob Dylan. Oh yeah, take it away, Officer Christie Bubble.
[21:18] Speaker 2: It was just a call for someone looking in a
[21:20] Speaker 2: house and it was pouring rain, so they gave a description,
[21:23] Speaker 2: and I just happened to be there and stopped him asking,
[21:25] Speaker 2: you know, normal questions, what are you doing here? What's
[21:27] Speaker 2: your name? He said, I'm Bob Dylan. I'm on tour.
[21:30] Speaker 3: I'm on tour. You know, just let me be.
[21:35] Speaker 2: If someone, let's say they look like Bob Dylan and
[21:38] Speaker 2: they told you this, would you believe them? Because I
[21:40] Speaker 2: would not. I'd be like, you're not Bob Dylan.
[21:43] Speaker 3: I'd be like, sing as a song, prove it.
[21:46] Speaker 2: Hold on to that thought now, backed Officer Bubble. And
[21:49] Speaker 2: I thought, no, that doesn't seem right because he was
[21:51] Speaker 2: playing in Lakewood. Why would he be in Long Branch.
[21:53] Speaker 2: It's forty five minutes from where he should be. Now,
[21:56] Speaker 2: see Bob Dylan clearly such a call.
[21:59] Speaker 3: But she knows in town.
[22:00] Speaker 2: Yes, interesting, right, So Officer Bubble keeps Pepperham with questions.
[22:05] Speaker 2: He's saying these things that are normal indicators of liars.
[22:07] Speaker 2: I'm Bob Dylan. Okay, what's your real name? He told
[22:10] Speaker 2: me his real name, his real like real name, his
[22:12] Speaker 2: government name. I think it's Zimmerman. Right, Oh my god,
[22:15] Speaker 2: now this is indeed his government name, Robert Zimmerman. Okay,
[22:18] Speaker 2: Bobby no digital.
[22:19] Speaker 5: Now.
[22:19] Speaker 2: So, confronted with a man who's clearly lying or on
[22:22] Speaker 2: drugs and believes he's Bob Dylan or whatever, what does
[22:25] Speaker 2: she do next, Officer Bubble? And I'm like, that's totally weird.
[22:28] Speaker 2: Now that's not right. He has two names. Some other
[22:31] Speaker 2: kid came and backed me up, and he's my age.
[22:33] Speaker 2: He didn't believe me either. So now there's two cops,
[22:36] Speaker 2: two young cops. They're both like, so you're Bob Dylan. Okay, buddy,
[22:40] Speaker 2: Bob Dylan, who is not known to be patient or
[22:42] Speaker 2: kind with small talk. Now you must be losing it.
[22:45] Speaker 2: He's in the rain. These cops are like, what's going on?
[22:47] Speaker 5: Then?
[22:47] Speaker 2: Rain? So packed Officer Bubble. I just put him in
[22:51] Speaker 2: the car and said, okay, where are you staying, Bob?
[22:54] Speaker 2: Kind of sarcastically messing with him a little bit. Where's
[22:57] Speaker 2: your hotel? Where might you be staying? Where are your friends?
[23:00] Speaker 4: Wait a second, we think that's funny, but imagine it
[23:02] Speaker 4: really is like just a homeless man's Bob exactly.
[23:07] Speaker 3: Look, that's the subtle part of the story.
[23:10] Speaker 2: Talk when you just imagine this is not Bob Dylan.
[23:13] Speaker 2: Just you run both stories the entire time.
[23:15] Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, So now.
[23:16] Speaker 2: They're just openly effing with not Bob Dylan. Like, okay,
[23:19] Speaker 2: Bob Dylan, if you're really Bob Dylan, name three of
[23:21] Speaker 2: his early albums.
[23:22] Speaker 4: And like what if he's like mentally ill and thinks
[23:24] Speaker 4: he's Bob Dylan and they're just messing.
[23:28] Speaker 2: So poor Bob Dylan, Right, Okay, back to the story.
[23:29] Speaker 2: Officer Bubble and Officer let's call him Officer Cupcake. Officer
[23:33] Speaker 2: Cupcake and Bubble, they're still questioning Bob Dylan, and now
[23:35] Speaker 2: they have him sitting in their squad car and they're like, hey,
[23:37] Speaker 2: Bob Dylan, where are you staying while you're on tour?
[23:39] Speaker 2: I don't see a tour bus anywhere.
[23:41] Speaker 3: They bullied.
[23:42] Speaker 2: Bob Dylan has an answer for Officer Bubble and Officer cupcake,
[23:46] Speaker 2: and I quote from Officer Bubble and he says, Oh,
[23:48] Speaker 2: it's this hotel out by the ocean, and I think
[23:51] Speaker 2: that kind of makes sense. So now the cops are
[23:53] Speaker 2: willing to drive this weirdo over to the hotel that
[23:55] Speaker 2: he's claimed he's staying at, mostly though, it's just to
[23:58] Speaker 2: prove that he's a liar, and then they can cut
[23:59] Speaker 2: to the chase and arrest him and take him to
[24:01] Speaker 2: Central Book. But meanwhile they to go out for the
[24:03] Speaker 2: drive to the coast, so backed Officer Bubble and their
[24:06] Speaker 2: account of what happened next. And even when we pulled
[24:08] Speaker 2: up to the hotel and there were buses and stuff,
[24:10] Speaker 2: I thought it might be some guy in character, someone
[24:12] Speaker 2: who might be imitating him and won't get out of
[24:14] Speaker 2: character even dealing with police. So I mean, to be fair,
[24:17] Speaker 2: that's a pretty good description of Bob Dylan as far
[24:19] Speaker 2: as I can tell him. Some guy in character who
[24:21] Speaker 2: won't get out of character even dealing with the police.
[24:23] Speaker 2: Someone Bob Dylan. Right now that we've taken him to
[24:27] Speaker 2: his hotel, does his manager spot him in the back
[24:29] Speaker 2: of the cop car and freak out? Like does the
[24:31] Speaker 2: teamster maybe see him and cod to and go, hey, man,
[24:33] Speaker 2: you can't be arresting Bob man or so what goes down? Well,
[24:36] Speaker 2: backed Officer Bubble. Bob Dylan is nice. He talked a lot,
[24:39] Speaker 2: and I wasn't even paying attention to some of the
[24:42] Speaker 2: things he was saying, because in my head I was wondering,
[24:44] Speaker 2: what am I going to tell the hospital? What am
[24:45] Speaker 2: I going to tell my supervisor? He's just blabbering in
[24:48] Speaker 2: the back.
[24:49] Speaker 3: Oh, he's flabbering.
[24:51] Speaker 2: What does he say of those she describes Dylan just
[24:54] Speaker 2: blabbering in the back. There are so many people alive
[24:56] Speaker 2: who would love like five minutes of his time. Yeah, right,
[25:00] Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, like Officer Bubble has like
[25:02] Speaker 2: an I don't know, an hour with him, and she's
[25:04] Speaker 2: like treating it like court ordered care of her demented grandfather.
[25:07] Speaker 2: He's like, I got it. He's babbling again. Anyway, So
[25:11] Speaker 2: those who do revere Bob Dylan and would love to
[25:13] Speaker 2: know what he would say in such a situation. I
[25:15] Speaker 2: have some answers. Yes, according to Officer Bubble, I actually
[25:18] Speaker 2: remember he said, just take me over there. I'll give
[25:20] Speaker 2: you tickets to my show. You can see me play.
[25:22] Speaker 2: I remember he said that, and I thought this guy
[25:24] Speaker 2: is crazy. So of course that wasn't all. Bob also
[25:27] Speaker 2: had way more to say. He told me he's famous
[25:30] Speaker 2: for singing. He told me he wrote all these songs.
[25:32] Speaker 2: It didn't actually occur to me to ask, like, sing
[25:34] Speaker 2: me a song. She never thinks of your first thoughts, Ye,
[25:38] Speaker 2: sing me a song song?
[25:39] Speaker 4: But would she even know a Dylan song or know
[25:41] Speaker 4: his voice? It sounds like she doesn't know much at all.
[25:45] Speaker 2: Hold that thought. If some man you think is crazy, right,
[25:48] Speaker 2: and he tells you he's Bob Dylan, and you don't
[25:50] Speaker 2: ask him to prove it by singing a Bob Dylan song, yeah,
[25:53] Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't say that to the newspaper writers. And
[25:55] Speaker 2: that's just me anyway. So Officer Bubble's mother, you know,
[25:59] Speaker 2: she asked that sort of question, the same question you asked,
[26:01] Speaker 2: the question I would ask. And as Officer Bubble tells it,
[26:05] Speaker 2: that was the third question. My mom asked, like, why
[26:08] Speaker 2: didn't you ask him to sing? I was like, I
[26:09] Speaker 2: don't know, mom, I didn't think about it. In retrospect,
[26:12] Speaker 2: it was the number one thing I should have done. Okay, well,
[26:14] Speaker 2: way to go, way to have like a post the
[26:16] Speaker 2: game like assessment by the cops. They don't always do
[26:19] Speaker 2: that once, so hey, way to go. But meanwhile, Bob
[26:21] Speaker 2: Dylan is practically daring her to ask him to sing.
[26:24] Speaker 2: I think he named a couple of songs.
[26:26] Speaker 3: The problem I got.
[26:28] Speaker 4: He's like, okay, a, I'm famous BM a singer.
[26:31] Speaker 2: He starts naming his songs.
[26:33] Speaker 3: So she's like, he have a pulitzerprise.
[26:35] Speaker 2: Yeah, for his autobiography. That was before then, yeah, that
[26:38] Speaker 2: was after then. Oh yeah, so yeah after this event.
[26:41] Speaker 2: So and then she says, but I wouldn't have known
[26:43] Speaker 2: any of the songs. So there you go, Elizabeth. Here
[26:46] Speaker 2: it is at this point Bob Dylan is at the hotel,
[26:48] Speaker 2: but he's still in police custody, right, so what gives
[26:51] Speaker 2: is he enjoying himself? He's just messing with him, accorded
[26:53] Speaker 2: Officer Bubble. He wasn't in trouble. There wasn't any chance
[26:56] Speaker 2: of him being arrested. It was just a suspicious thing.
[26:59] Speaker 2: There was no answered him going to jail or anything.
[27:01] Speaker 2: He probably knew that. I mean, if he couldn't tell
[27:04] Speaker 2: me where those buses were, he might have been in
[27:06] Speaker 2: the hospital. I would have had to make some phone calls. Now,
[27:09] Speaker 2: if she would, if she wouldn't have listened to him
[27:12] Speaker 2: and been willing to drive him over to his hotel
[27:14] Speaker 2: and found all the tour buses, Yeah, she would have
[27:17] Speaker 2: had Bob Dylan incarcerated in like the version of like for.
[27:19] Speaker 4: What why Shelvy, It's illegal to walk down the street
[27:22] Speaker 4: in the rain.
[27:23] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's what I mean right in
[27:25] Speaker 2: this country, I'm telling you, Elizabeth. So even Officer Bubble
[27:28] Speaker 2: admits at this point she knows that he hasn't done
[27:30] Speaker 2: anything wrong, but she still thinks he's suspicious. Right, She's
[27:33] Speaker 2: already admitted that. Anyway.
[27:35] Speaker 3: Officer next back to Officer Bumble.
[27:37] Speaker 2: Even if he didn't say he was Bob Dylan, I
[27:39] Speaker 2: would have thought something was off. I mean normal people,
[27:41] Speaker 2: what you usually ask, like, what are you doing here?
[27:43] Speaker 2: Where do you live? Where are you from? He said,
[27:45] Speaker 2: I have houses all over the place. I don't live
[27:47] Speaker 2: in one place. I travel so much. I have a
[27:49] Speaker 2: house in London, I have a house in California. People
[27:51] Speaker 2: in Long Branch say I live in Long Branch. I
[27:54] Speaker 2: live here. So little red flags are going off and
[27:56] Speaker 2: he's not lying. But a noural person would have made
[27:59] Speaker 2: sense he's.
[28:00] Speaker 3: Telling you the truth.
[28:03] Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love her logic. Like what he's
[28:06] Speaker 2: saying doesn't make sense according to long branch standards, so
[28:09] Speaker 2: like lock him up all that where it is, we
[28:11] Speaker 2: should have hospitalize this guy.
[28:13] Speaker 3: I still don't understand, Like why.
[28:15] Speaker 2: So according to Officer Bubble, one way or another, it
[28:17] Speaker 2: was definitely Bob Dylan's fault, right, and I quote if
[28:20] Speaker 2: he didn't say he was Bob Dylan, the totality would
[28:22] Speaker 2: have been who is this person? Why do they say
[28:25] Speaker 2: they live all over the place. He looks like a
[28:26] Speaker 2: homeless person, and he's saying he's rich, he has all
[28:29] Speaker 2: these houses. He's walking around in the rain in a
[28:31] Speaker 2: rain jacket. He was soaking wet. He had rain boots on,
[28:34] Speaker 2: sweatpants and a jacket.
[28:36] Speaker 3: Well you're not supposed to wear rain boots in the rains.
[28:37] Speaker 2: No, but only and the sweatpants And who cares anyway?
[28:41] Speaker 4: Okayes like I'm just I'm having a hard time not
[28:44] Speaker 4: getting mad. That's something that happens so long ago. Incarcerated him,
[28:48] Speaker 4: doesn't But also it's like she would last ten minutes
[28:51] Speaker 4: in the Bay Area where it's like you can you
[28:55] Speaker 4: could be like in Berkeley and see someone who looks
[28:57] Speaker 4: totally normalless and it's a Nobel laureates, so.
[29:00] Speaker 2: Totally or somebody who looks really like geared up, nice outfit,
[29:03] Speaker 2: and they'll rob you play.
[29:05] Speaker 3: By those rules, and so I can't.
[29:06] Speaker 4: I'm just having a hard time processing being like, you're
[29:09] Speaker 4: not dressed right, you're homeless, and.
[29:10] Speaker 3: I have to take you in.
[29:12] Speaker 4: What have you hospitalized against your will? Because I don't
[29:14] Speaker 4: believe what you're saying about where you live?
[29:16] Speaker 2: Now? Do you remember the original reason for the callous
[29:20] Speaker 2: peering in the windows? Right?
[29:21] Speaker 3: Right?
[29:22] Speaker 2: So back to the officer bubble about that. Yeah, he
[29:25] Speaker 2: said that he saw a house with a forced sale
[29:26] Speaker 2: sign and he was looking to possibly buy this house.
[29:29] Speaker 2: I said, normal people go through a real estate agent.
[29:32] Speaker 2: Why are you walking around the back of the house.
[29:34] Speaker 2: He was like, I don't know, I just wanted to
[29:35] Speaker 2: check it out. I was like, all right, it was
[29:37] Speaker 2: kind of strange. So it turns out Bob Dylan was
[29:40] Speaker 2: not planning on buying the house. He just said that,
[29:42] Speaker 2: but what he was doing was looking for the childhood
[29:44] Speaker 2: home of the Boss. I read something afterwards that he
[29:47] Speaker 2: was looking for Bruce Springsteen's childhood house.
[29:50] Speaker 3: Oh my god.
[29:51] Speaker 2: The Officer Bubble still exculpates herself of all guilt because again,
[29:55] Speaker 2: that doesn't make sense to her Long Branch standard of
[29:58] Speaker 2: what makes sense, because Engstein's house, it's not even in
[30:01] Speaker 2: that neighborhood. It's in the west end side of town.
[30:05] Speaker 2: This was the center of Long Branch. There's nice houses,
[30:08] Speaker 2: but they're kind of like old and rickety. I don't
[30:10] Speaker 2: know what he was looking at. I have no idea.
[30:12] Speaker 4: It's like I park out in front of the boss's
[30:14] Speaker 4: childhood home every night while I eat my burger and
[30:17] Speaker 4: stare in their windows, and so I know where it is.
[30:20] Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta ask you guys a question. All right.
[30:23] Speaker 6: You know how Bob Dylan is like a super trickster,
[30:26] Speaker 6: and so he's never gonna give you a straight answer. Yes,
[30:28] Speaker 6: what songs he's he's sung? Is he like naming random
[30:32] Speaker 6: things like he's like, have you heard I got five
[30:35] Speaker 6: on it?
[30:35] Speaker 3: Or he's like run for the US A couple of love?
[30:45] Speaker 3: Are you familiar? Oh? God, yeah, I do. Wish I
[30:49] Speaker 3: could hear the list of songs that he referenced.
[30:51] Speaker 2: Well, Officer Bubble, she kind of gets into that, she says,
[30:55] Speaker 2: and I quote. When you encounter someone as famous as him,
[30:58] Speaker 2: you expect him to be pomp this is who I am.
[31:01] Speaker 2: Don't do this, don't you know who I am? It
[31:03] Speaker 2: was nothing like that, like nothing at all. He was
[31:06] Speaker 2: modest and calm and chill. I definitely didn't think, oh,
[31:09] Speaker 2: this guy is such a jerk off, and I'll never
[31:10] Speaker 2: think of him the same way again. Not at all.
[31:12] Speaker 2: He was nicer than ninety five percent of the people
[31:15] Speaker 2: I deal with every.
[31:15] Speaker 3: Day, Nicer than I would have been, right.
[31:18] Speaker 2: Bob Dylan, nicer than ninety five percent of cops and criminals.
[31:22] Speaker 2: I think he should put on his next record cover.
[31:25] Speaker 4: I want to lit into her so hard, and still
[31:27] Speaker 4: to this day, I'd be giving interviews and naming names
[31:31] Speaker 4: on her.
[31:32] Speaker 2: How did all this get finally resolved? Great question, Elizabeth.
[31:36] Speaker 2: Back to Officer Bubble. As soon as we got to
[31:38] Speaker 2: the hotel and I pulled the police car in, I
[31:40] Speaker 2: was thinking, let me check this out. Maybe it's just
[31:41] Speaker 2: a coincidence. There's just buses here. They're not for him,
[31:45] Speaker 2: and his manager came running out to us and flipped out,
[31:48] Speaker 2: being a total jerk. He grabbed Bob out of the
[31:51] Speaker 2: car and said, don't talk to them anymore, come with me.
[31:54] Speaker 2: I was like, sorry, sorry, Bob for my dad a fan.
[31:58] Speaker 2: I didn't mean to not believe you. I couldn't talk
[32:01] Speaker 2: to him anymore because the manager wouldn't let me have
[32:02] Speaker 2: anything to do with him. So the cop right is
[32:05] Speaker 2: immediately relenting to the manager because they're a jerk. Yeah,
[32:08] Speaker 2: and that makes sense to her long branch standards apparently,
[32:11] Speaker 2: and then she's like.
[32:12] Speaker 3: Wait, I want to keep talking to him.
[32:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, the manager was a pompous and I go, whoa,
[32:17] Speaker 2: we're still the cops. Give us some form of idea,
[32:19] Speaker 2: or we're gonna come on your bus, and he's like,
[32:21] Speaker 2: you don't have a warrant, don't come on this bus.
[32:24] Speaker 2: And I was like, we're not trying to do all this.
[32:26] Speaker 2: Just tell us who this is and we'll get moving now.
[32:29] Speaker 2: Even though the crazy man is clearly Bob Dylan, and
[32:32] Speaker 2: the cops just they refuse to give up their position. Right.
[32:34] Speaker 2: So she says, we tried to look in the bus.
[32:36] Speaker 2: I was kind of being nosy and I wanted to
[32:38] Speaker 2: and the manager wasn't allowing us anywhere near it.
[32:41] Speaker 3: You want to look in the windows?
[32:43] Speaker 2: Suddenly foot right, so and the manager wasn't allowing us
[32:46] Speaker 2: anywhere near it, which was suspicious in itself, But fine whatever.
[32:50] Speaker 2: The guy was just in the back of my car.
[32:52] Speaker 2: Who cares if I see him on the bus. I mean,
[32:54] Speaker 2: he just seems like a quiet, chilled dude who was
[32:56] Speaker 2: minding his own business, being a little weird he had
[32:59] Speaker 2: to run into me. I have no idea what would
[33:01] Speaker 2: have happened if you had met one of the older cops.
[33:03] Speaker 2: How would that have gone down? Probably well, they probably
[33:05] Speaker 2: would have known him.
[33:08] Speaker 3: They wouldn't have been like, hey.
[33:11] Speaker 2: Can I get tickets from my kids and my wife
[33:13] Speaker 2: and me? You know so Officer Bubbles. She was able
[33:16] Speaker 2: to laugh at herself after the story became a national
[33:18] Speaker 2: news story. I don't even know how it got out.
[33:20] Speaker 2: The police department all joked and laughed and made fun
[33:23] Speaker 2: of me for weeks, but none of the cops, total
[33:25] Speaker 2: newspaper or anything. It didn't even come out till like
[33:28] Speaker 2: a few months later. I was like, that happened months ago. Now.
[33:33] Speaker 2: As for her mom and dad, the Bob Dylan superfan,
[33:35] Speaker 2: her dad who somehow didn't teach his daughter to recognize
[33:38] Speaker 2: Bob Dollan or believe someone who says they are Bob Dylan.
[33:41] Speaker 2: Officer Bubble had this to say, Elizabeth, you know, I
[33:44] Speaker 2: mean he's famous. I get it, and it's weird. He
[33:46] Speaker 2: was in Long Branch, but people were calling from everywhere
[33:50] Speaker 2: to talk to me. My picture was in the biggest
[33:52] Speaker 2: newspaper in New York. They made it seem like I
[33:54] Speaker 2: was some dumb girl who didn't know who he was
[33:57] Speaker 2: and had never heard of him. And that's not the case.
[34:00] Speaker 2: My dad, he passed away six years ago, but he
[34:02] Speaker 2: used to love Bob Dylan. My mom listened to him.
[34:05] Speaker 2: I knew who he was, but I wasn't sitting around
[34:07] Speaker 2: looking at his picture every day. But since then, people
[34:11] Speaker 2: have bought me CDs and records. I don't know. It's funny.
[34:15] Speaker 2: I wanted to have a normal conversation with him after.
[34:17] Speaker 2: I want to say, manager, just step away from me
[34:19] Speaker 2: for just one minute. Just let me talk to with
[34:21] Speaker 2: him for one minute. I promise. I don't want anything
[34:23] Speaker 2: from him. I don't want to bother him. I just
[34:25] Speaker 2: want to have a conversation with him where I don't
[34:27] Speaker 2: think he's a crazy person. Oh my god, one last
[34:30] Speaker 2: word from Officer Bubble. I'll let her take us out
[34:33] Speaker 2: because I know she's already taken you out.
[34:34] Speaker 3: She has.
[34:35] Speaker 2: If I saw him today, I don't think he'd be mad.
[34:37] Speaker 2: I'd say it was a misunderstanding and everyone comes out okay.
[34:41] Speaker 2: And I was just doing my job and didn't believe you.
[34:44] Speaker 2: My bad, I'm sorry. Did you hear that she pretended
[34:47] Speaker 2: as a cop that she would actually apologize for her
[34:49] Speaker 2: actions rather than you know, rationalize them. Being is a
[34:52] Speaker 2: reasonable response to a reasonable situation. Okay, Elizabeth, there you go.
[34:57] Speaker 2: Ask the Bob Dylan. So, Bob Dylan versus Officer Bubble.
[35:00] Speaker 3: It was incredible.
[35:00] Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a little break. Yes, and I got
[35:02] Speaker 2: another nuts one for you.
[35:04] Speaker 3: Oh I can't wait.
[35:25] Speaker 2: Oh, Elizabeth, your interurn's kind of noisy, can you hear? Yeah,
[35:31] Speaker 2: just a little bit whatever. He's spirited though, I really like.
[35:34] Speaker 3: But it's like I can't put him outside. No, he
[35:36] Speaker 3: needs to be in the studio otherwise he'll lose it.
[35:39] Speaker 2: I respect the game. So, lizbe I got a final
[35:41] Speaker 2: story for you today. You're ready. The year was nineteen
[35:44] Speaker 2: sixty five. Okay, like, wait a minute, we've already done
[35:46] Speaker 2: nineteen sixty five. All these stories are either from two thousand.
[35:48] Speaker 3: And nine or nineteen sixty five year, just like I just.
[35:51] Speaker 2: Want stories forty four years apart. Anyway, the musician Frank
[35:55] Speaker 2: Zappa was working in a latino club in Ontario, California.
[36:00] Speaker 2: And by working, I mean he was in a blues trio.
[36:02] Speaker 2: Oh okay, with the crowd was far more likely to
[36:06] Speaker 2: be paying attention to the go go girls. You see,
[36:08] Speaker 2: there were four of them on stage, all of them
[36:10] Speaker 2: in fishnet stockings. As you would say, hubba hubba. So
[36:15] Speaker 2: what's Frank Zappa doing playing in a blues trio and
[36:17] Speaker 2: a latino club in Ontario, California, but go go dance? Yes, well,
[36:22] Speaker 2: he was doing whatever a used car salesman was willing
[36:24] Speaker 2: to pay him a hundred bucks to do. Yeah. Well wait, sorry,
[36:27] Speaker 2: that makes it sound dirty. Yeah okay, wait, sorry again,
[36:29] Speaker 2: I just checked my notes. This story is dirty, okay,
[36:33] Speaker 2: but not like you're likely imagining Elizabeth. Okay, wait partially
[36:36] Speaker 2: how you're imagining. Anyway, here's the deal. One day, on
[36:39] Speaker 2: a break from playing with the blues trio, this used
[36:42] Speaker 2: car salesman comes into the club, right, you know, kind
[36:45] Speaker 2: of sidles up next to him and like waits for
[36:47] Speaker 2: his moment or whatever. And when he gets Frank Zappa's attention.
[36:50] Speaker 2: The used car dealer, he says, hey, buddy, he played
[36:53] Speaker 2: pretty good, right, and being young and not yet fully
[36:56] Speaker 2: Frank Zappa the way we know him, He's like, thanks, mister,
[37:00] Speaker 2: the show and the way I imagine it goes. The
[37:02] Speaker 2: used car salesman is like, oh you bet you. I
[37:05] Speaker 2: really was picking up what you fellas were laying down,
[37:08] Speaker 2: if you too can dig it, and Frank Zappa's like,
[37:10] Speaker 2: oh yeah, sure pal. Now the used car dealer, he
[37:13] Speaker 2: kind of looks around, he looks left, he looks right,
[37:15] Speaker 2: and then he sort of lowers his voice and he says, hey,
[37:19] Speaker 2: so you ever make any recordings, you know, like with
[37:22] Speaker 2: your own equipment? And now the used car salesman has
[37:25] Speaker 2: Frank Zappa's full attention, right yeah, and so Zappa says, yeah,
[37:30] Speaker 2: I got a home studio. What sort of recordings are
[37:32] Speaker 2: we talking about?
[37:32] Speaker 5: That?
[37:32] Speaker 2: The used car dealer he's all excited. He looks around again,
[37:35] Speaker 2: checks ue if anyone can hear him, and then he says,
[37:37] Speaker 2: all low and slow, I think you know the dirty
[37:41] Speaker 2: kind now, Oliz turns out this used car salesman did
[37:46] Speaker 2: not want the dirty kind of the blues. He wanted
[37:49] Speaker 2: sex tapes. Elizabeth, wait, record audio sex tapes?
[37:52] Speaker 3: Oh good, oh so god.
[37:56] Speaker 2: Frank Zappa looked like the kind of fella who might
[37:59] Speaker 2: know where he could get some audio sex tape.
[38:01] Speaker 3: Probably right, it would look like.
[38:03] Speaker 2: And he wanted custom made jobs. So Zappa tells his
[38:07] Speaker 2: used car dealer he could make some audio sex tapes
[38:09] Speaker 2: for him. In fact, one of the one of the
[38:11] Speaker 2: go Go dancers, he points out which one. She's up
[38:13] Speaker 2: there on the stage, gyrating in her go Go boots.
[38:16] Speaker 2: So it's easy for the used car salesman to kind
[38:17] Speaker 2: of get his motor running. And Frank Zappa says her,
[38:20] Speaker 2: right now, they used car salesman. He's all in. He's
[38:22] Speaker 2: practically ripping his wallet out of his pants pocket. At
[38:25] Speaker 2: this point, the two men they agree to a price
[38:27] Speaker 2: one hundred dollars for a custom made bespoke audio sex tapes.
[38:31] Speaker 3: So this is this is horrible.
[38:33] Speaker 2: No, it's better than you think. This is nineteen sixty five.
[38:36] Speaker 2: That same hundred dollars would be nine hundred and eighty
[38:39] Speaker 2: five dollars.
[38:39] Speaker 3: Take we're doing a conversion.
[38:42] Speaker 2: You we're talking about one thousand dollars sex tape. So Elizabeth,
[38:45] Speaker 2: at this point of the story, your.
[38:47] Speaker 3: Thoughts, ew right, I just ewing on the whole.
[38:51] Speaker 2: Well, how about this? I got some questions for you. One,
[38:53] Speaker 2: how Frank Sappa is this story?
[38:55] Speaker 3: Oh beyond?
[38:57] Speaker 2: Two? Did you know audio sex tapes were a thing?
[38:59] Speaker 3: No?
[39:00] Speaker 2: Three? Have you ever wanted go go boots?
[39:02] Speaker 3: Yeah? Kind of?
[39:03] Speaker 2: Okay. Now back to Zappa. So he agrees to make
[39:06] Speaker 2: the thousand dollars custom made bespoke audio sex tape. And
[39:09] Speaker 2: he he's got the costars.
[39:10] Speaker 3: Picked up like a record.
[39:13] Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, So who else is going to be in
[39:17] Speaker 2: it besides the Go Go dancer? Well, he wants to
[39:19] Speaker 2: keep you know, costs down, so he decides he'll be
[39:21] Speaker 2: the other audio porn star. Okay, So the Go Go dancer,
[39:24] Speaker 2: her name is Lorraine Belcher. She was nineteen. She was
[39:27] Speaker 2: his girlfriend at the time, and so it wasn't like
[39:29] Speaker 2: a hard question to pose to her, right, It's just
[39:31] Speaker 2: some fast cash for an artsy young couple. Now, now
[39:34] Speaker 2: that they've turned semi pro as sex workers, Zappa and
[39:37] Speaker 2: Lorraine Belcher, they go home and they have to make
[39:39] Speaker 2: this audio sex tape. Now, according to Zappa, he says,
[39:43] Speaker 2: I stayed up most of the night manufacturing this bogus
[39:46] Speaker 2: sex tape fake Bedsprings, squeaks and grunts. I overdubbed a
[39:50] Speaker 2: musical background and spent hours cutting the laughs out of
[39:53] Speaker 2: this thing.
[39:53] Speaker 4: Oh my god, this is actually super fun. I knew
[39:56] Speaker 4: you would like that, imagining like old radio shows.
[39:58] Speaker 5: Like.
[40:00] Speaker 2: Exactly, like a submarine. So he makes this fake sex tape, right,
[40:08] Speaker 2: and the guy offers him what would be a grand
[40:10] Speaker 2: now for this custom They bespoke audio sex tape. And
[40:12] Speaker 2: he has his girlfriend and a mic, and they have
[40:14] Speaker 2: plenty of mics because he's got it. He lives in
[40:16] Speaker 2: a recording studio, right, So he basically mikes up the
[40:19] Speaker 2: bed like a drum kid, and they just have so
[40:21] Speaker 2: much fun faking this all right, and then so you know,
[40:24] Speaker 2: but they could have if they wanted to, have made
[40:26] Speaker 2: a much easier real tape. They are a real couple.
[40:29] Speaker 2: They have the mics exactly, you know, goodness, and being frank,
[40:37] Speaker 2: he pulls this all nighter. He makes probably the world
[40:40] Speaker 2: most brilliant sex tape. Right, and but as I said,
[40:44] Speaker 2: all fakes rage you pointed out radio show Bed Springs.
[40:47] Speaker 2: He also adds a comical musical score under underneath it
[40:50] Speaker 2: all like playing in the background.
[40:51] Speaker 4: Is like this music he's got definitely.
[40:57] Speaker 2: So not only was all this faked, right, but uh,
[41:00] Speaker 2: I gotta kind of drop the curtain for you. The
[41:03] Speaker 2: used car salesman he was also fake. He was an
[41:07] Speaker 2: undercover cop.
[41:09] Speaker 3: What.
[41:10] Speaker 2: Yes, everything in this story is fake, Elizabeth. Yeah, so
[41:13] Speaker 2: the only scenario that is somehow totally reasonable in the
[41:16] Speaker 2: world of Frank Zappa is that everything is fake in
[41:19] Speaker 2: this So so just okay, just to kind of prep this,
[41:23] Speaker 2: because I want to give you a sad sense of
[41:25] Speaker 2: where Frank Zappa was in his life at this moment.
[41:27] Speaker 2: Because I keep saying nineteen sixty five, and people know
[41:29] Speaker 2: Frank Zappa. You know, they may know like him in
[41:31] Speaker 2: like the Sheik your booty era, or they may know
[41:33] Speaker 2: I don't know what they're thinking of, but exactly Mother's
[41:37] Speaker 2: invention era, I don't know. But let's just go back
[41:38] Speaker 2: to when he started out being Frank Zappa two years earlier.
[41:42] Speaker 2: On March fourteenth, nineteen sixty three, a then twenty three
[41:45] Speaker 2: year old Frank Zappa went on national television. He played
[41:48] Speaker 2: a song on two bicycles. It's okay, not like he
[41:51] Speaker 2: was riding the bicycles and playing a song over he
[41:54] Speaker 2: was playing the bikes like musical instruments, right. He basically
[41:57] Speaker 2: wanted to pull one over on Steve Allen. All Right,
[42:00] Speaker 2: So when Zappa first comes out onto the set, the
[42:02] Speaker 2: late night host is like, oh, how long you've been
[42:04] Speaker 2: playing the bike, right, trying to be able to dig
[42:05] Speaker 2: jovial as a musical instrument. And ZAPPI sayes, oh, about
[42:09] Speaker 2: two weeks he's on TV. Steve Allen's got to play
[42:13] Speaker 2: alonger this big laugh from the crowd, like they love
[42:15] Speaker 2: this kid, right, So then he goes ahead and he
[42:17] Speaker 2: gives a legitimate exhibition of his talents as a bicycle player.
[42:21] Speaker 2: So he uses a violin bow on the bike spokes, right,
[42:24] Speaker 2: and that sound that emerges is basically identical to like
[42:26] Speaker 2: an elephant's trumpet blast.
[42:28] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[42:28] Speaker 2: Then he also he plucks the spokes, which kind of
[42:30] Speaker 2: sounds like a drunken harp.
[42:33] Speaker 5: Right.
[42:33] Speaker 2: Then bent low right, he blows into the bicycle's handlebars
[42:37] Speaker 2: from one end. He like his lips are on the handgrip, right,
[42:40] Speaker 2: and he gives it a mighty wind and then all
[42:41] Speaker 2: of a sudden it comes a whistling sound from the
[42:43] Speaker 2: other end, right. Yeah. So later Zappa and Steve Allen
[42:46] Speaker 2: they get into this together because he kind of teaches
[42:49] Speaker 2: Steve Allen how to play, like, here's just knock stuff around, right,
[42:52] Speaker 2: And so they played the two bikes together for a
[42:54] Speaker 2: tune that Zappa called to quote a small improvisation for
[42:57] Speaker 2: two bicycles.
[42:58] Speaker 3: This is so safety.
[43:01] Speaker 2: It actually sounded well, it sounded like kind of like
[43:03] Speaker 2: music anyway. It sounds mostly like noise music, but like
[43:06] Speaker 2: proto noise music.
[43:07] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[43:07] Speaker 2: At one point Zappa he's plucking the bicycle spoke. Steve
[43:09] Speaker 2: Allen's playsing his nose like a kazoo like yeah. Right.
[43:13] Speaker 2: So the bit ends with Zappa playing the shwins one
[43:16] Speaker 2: right side up, one upside down, and he plays right
[43:19] Speaker 2: along with the house band and a pre recorded track
[43:21] Speaker 2: that he's messed around with. It included a woman singing
[43:24] Speaker 2: that he stole off the radio, so he's got like
[43:25] Speaker 2: a subtle FCC violation going on. He's all proud about that.
[43:29] Speaker 2: He slides that in. So then he and the band
[43:31] Speaker 2: they jam out on an improv right. So, now that
[43:33] Speaker 2: we got this last piece of the puzzle in place, Elizabeth,
[43:36] Speaker 2: i'd like you to close your eyes as I'd like
[43:39] Speaker 2: you to picture. I don't know if I want to
[43:42] Speaker 2: It's March twenty sixth, nineteen sixty five, and you are
[43:45] Speaker 2: in a recording studio apartment the air conditioning homes. There's
[43:48] Speaker 2: the sound of someone lightly snoring. It's late morning. You
[43:52] Speaker 2: are in the valley, as in the San Fernando Valley
[43:54] Speaker 2: in southern California, specifically Rancho Cucamonga, the place once made
[43:58] Speaker 2: famous in The Last mid Si Tree by comedian Jack
[44:01] Speaker 2: Benny when he had a running gag on his radio
[44:03] Speaker 2: show wherein voice actor Mel Blanc would play a train
[44:06] Speaker 2: announcer and he'd say train now leaving on track five
[44:09] Speaker 2: for anaheim A, Zuza and Coke. The city is technically
[44:13] Speaker 2: in San Bernardino County aka sam Burdu, about thirty five
[44:17] Speaker 2: to forty five miles east of downtown La there at
[44:20] Speaker 2: the foothills of the beautiful San Gabriel Mountains Amonga. Now
[44:25] Speaker 2: see that's how the joke when Elizabeth yeah, okay on
[44:27] Speaker 2: the radio anyway, which you would all know about, because Elizabeth,
[44:30] Speaker 2: you are a threat from the Department of Motor Vehicles
[44:33] Speaker 2: to revoke Frank Zappa's driver's license.
[44:36] Speaker 3: I'm a piece of paper.
[44:37] Speaker 2: Yes, let me correct that you are a framed threat
[44:40] Speaker 2: from the Department of Motor Vehicles to revoke his driver's license.
[44:44] Speaker 2: You hang on the wall and have been there for
[44:46] Speaker 2: some time. You're a bit dusty. Frank Zappa is a
[44:49] Speaker 2: twenty four year old musician with let's say eclectic taste.
[44:52] Speaker 2: Across the room from you is a framed photo of
[44:54] Speaker 2: Frank Zappa on the Steve Allen TV Show. You've stared
[44:56] Speaker 2: at that photo of Frank Zappa and Steve Allen and
[44:59] Speaker 2: the shwins for a some time. The calm of this
[45:01] Speaker 2: morning is, though, is broken by a loud, heavy knocking
[45:04] Speaker 2: on the door. The storing man rouses polton clothes and
[45:07] Speaker 2: walks over the door. It's a client. It's his most
[45:09] Speaker 2: recent client to use car salesman. He asked if the
[45:12] Speaker 2: audio sex tape is ready. Frank Zappa yawns and then
[45:15] Speaker 2: invites the used car salesman into his recording studio apartment.
[45:19] Speaker 2: He tells the client to get comfortable as he sets
[45:21] Speaker 2: up his reel to reel to preview the audio sex
[45:24] Speaker 2: tape for the used car salesman. You watch the client
[45:26] Speaker 2: as he eyes the decor of the apartment, which includes
[45:30] Speaker 2: you the framed threat. There's also some pop art scattered
[45:33] Speaker 2: about on the walls. Near you, there is a Zappa's
[45:36] Speaker 2: divorce papers also framed, along with framed rejection letters from
[45:40] Speaker 2: record labels. It's your crew on the floor though a
[45:43] Speaker 2: top oriental in persian rugs or musical instrument stacked brick
[45:46] Speaker 2: a brac everywhere. Electric guitars, a drum kit, a piano,
[45:50] Speaker 2: multiple vibraphones. You watch the client as he eyes this
[45:54] Speaker 2: sleepy Frank Zappa. He asks about the customs made sex tape.
[45:58] Speaker 2: Zappa asks him some questions. Once he's satisfied with his answer,
[46:01] Speaker 2: Zeppi says, I guess you're all right. He gets up
[46:04] Speaker 2: and walks over to his reel to reel and he
[46:06] Speaker 2: hits play you the used car salesman and Frank Zappa
[46:09] Speaker 2: listen to the recording. Here's bed squeaks, there's some grunting
[46:12] Speaker 2: and heavy breathing. There's also what you would call it
[46:15] Speaker 2: blue language. Zappa stops the tape. He asks what the
[46:19] Speaker 2: used car salesman thinks? I is that what he was
[46:22] Speaker 2: looking for? The client nos, this is exactly what he wanted,
[46:26] Speaker 2: but Zappa says he also made a film of the
[46:28] Speaker 2: event and would throw that in for three hundred dollars
[46:31] Speaker 2: on top of the original one hundred bucks. Oh my god,
[46:33] Speaker 2: now the used car salesman has more than he wanted.
[46:35] Speaker 2: He signals his partners with the speed of a predator.
[46:38] Speaker 2: Cops rush into the recording studio. The used car salesman
[46:41] Speaker 2: identifies himself as Sergeant Jim Willis from the Vice Squad
[46:44] Speaker 2: of the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department. Two other Sheriff's
[46:48] Speaker 2: detectives and a detective from the Ontario Police Department also
[46:51] Speaker 2: identify themselves as a framed threat from the DMV. You
[46:55] Speaker 2: are not surprised at all that Frank Zappa is once
[46:57] Speaker 2: again in trouble with the law. Some of the officers
[47:03] Speaker 2: who arrested Frank Zappa they also had amazing names. The
[47:07] Speaker 2: operation was overseen by Lieutenant Ed Noon and Sheriff Frank Bland.
[47:12] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, exactly, they're like sixties TV show pop names right,
[47:16] Speaker 2: completely tell to Sheriff Frank Bland, So what happens now
[47:20] Speaker 2: that he's busted for making porn that's actually fake porn?
[47:23] Speaker 2: But since it's audio, how do you prove that it's
[47:24] Speaker 2: fake porn? Also, it's nineteen sixty five, Yeah, so what
[47:28] Speaker 2: gives Elizabeth.
[47:29] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[47:30] Speaker 2: Well. Before zapp I ever got to court, the cops
[47:32] Speaker 2: attempted to try him in the court of public opinion.
[47:35] Speaker 2: The local papers were tipped off about the bust. Yeah,
[47:38] Speaker 2: the next day and the daily report, the local paper,
[47:42] Speaker 2: a news story scandalized the joint with this accounting of events,
[47:45] Speaker 2: and I quote vice squad investigators stilled the tape recorders
[47:49] Speaker 2: of a free swinging a go go film and recording
[47:52] Speaker 2: studio here Friday and arrested a self styled movie producer
[47:56] Speaker 2: and his buxom, redheaded companion.
[48:00] Speaker 3: So, yeah, by the way, it's a musical mad scientist.
[48:04] Speaker 2: Did you know Frank Zappa is his government name, it's
[48:06] Speaker 2: not his stage name. I found that out. So Zappa
[48:08] Speaker 2: and Lorraine Belcher they are both charged with quote conspiracy
[48:11] Speaker 2: to commit pornography. Zappa total gentleman. He was like, keep me,
[48:17] Speaker 2: let Lorraine go free. He arranges the Baylor out right.
[48:20] Speaker 2: Doesn't have much money though, so he has to contact
[48:23] Speaker 2: people and he arranges. He's got some royalties coming for
[48:25] Speaker 2: a song that he penn called Memories of Almnte. So
[48:28] Speaker 2: the song was his douo optune. He co wrote for
[48:30] Speaker 2: a group called the Penguins. Right. The song apparently was
[48:33] Speaker 2: doing numbers, so he uses that money to free his girlfriend. Now.
[48:36] Speaker 2: His other big tune at the time was a song
[48:38] Speaker 2: called Streets of Fontana. You know this one, Elizabeth? How
[48:41] Speaker 2: about you? Producer Dave? Do you know this one? Got
[48:44] Speaker 2: nothing mind? If I favor you with.
[48:45] Speaker 3: A verse, just a verse, ye please?
[48:47] Speaker 2: As I was out sweep in the streets of Fontana.
[48:50] Speaker 2: As I was out sweep in Fontana one day I
[48:54] Speaker 2: spied in the gutter of old moldy Banana and with
[48:58] Speaker 2: the peeling, I started to play Hey.
[49:01] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[49:02] Speaker 2: So the gentleman, outlaw and soon to be sex offender
[49:04] Speaker 2: sits in the county jail and he gets his day
[49:07] Speaker 2: in court. He takes the charge and he pleads no
[49:09] Speaker 2: lo contendre okay, right. His sentence is a six month sentence,
[49:13] Speaker 2: but most of the sentence gets suspended. He winds up
[49:16] Speaker 2: doing only ten days in jail. When he comes out
[49:19] Speaker 2: of lock up, Frank Zappa is a change man. He's
[49:21] Speaker 2: like ten days inside, right, so, but he's not completely changed.
[49:24] Speaker 2: He's still Frank Zappa. But he does say this, and
[49:26] Speaker 2: I quote, you can't appreciate what a jail is and
[49:29] Speaker 2: what goes on there unless someone sticks you in one.
[49:32] Speaker 2: In a way, I guess I have to thank Detective
[49:34] Speaker 2: Willis and the evil machinery of the San Bernardino legal
[49:37] Speaker 2: system for giving me a chance to see from that
[49:40] Speaker 2: perspective what the penal system is like in this country
[49:43] Speaker 2: and how ineffectual and how stupid it is. All right, Zappa?
[49:49] Speaker 2: So the real cost to him was his lost music
[49:51] Speaker 2: and other recordings, because when the local authorities ran through
[49:54] Speaker 2: his plays and they rifle through all his stuff during
[49:56] Speaker 2: their raid, the cops seized about eighty hours of recordings.
[49:59] Speaker 2: Can you guess how many hours that he gave him back?
[50:02] Speaker 3: Zero? Thirty, thirty? Yeah, I wonder whatever happened fifty hours?
[50:07] Speaker 2: Who knows? Right that? The surprising result though, out of
[50:10] Speaker 2: all of this, was that, since he was now a
[50:12] Speaker 2: convicted felon, Frank Zappa wasn't eligible for the draft. His
[50:17] Speaker 2: one thousand dollars fake audio sex tape kept Frank Zappa
[50:20] Speaker 2: out of Vietnam.
[50:21] Speaker 4: Wow, I'm crazy, And he couldn't wear bolt profess exactly.
[50:25] Speaker 2: So that's how ridiculous takeaway here, Elizabeth.
[50:27] Speaker 3: Oh wait, well, I.
[50:27] Speaker 4: Think it's funny that he was playing at a club
[50:30] Speaker 4: in the valley, right, and then today the San Fernando
[50:33] Speaker 4: Valley is like the epicenter of porn production.
[50:36] Speaker 2: Yeah, he was, just he was way ahead of it.
[50:39] Speaker 4: My other ridiculous takeaway, thank you for asking, is don't
[50:42] Speaker 4: walk in the rain in New Jersey.
[50:44] Speaker 3: What's your ridiculous takeaway?
[50:46] Speaker 2: Now, I'm not going to pretend you're trying to show
[50:48] Speaker 2: off for the intern, like, oh, I'm so I normally
[50:50] Speaker 2: do this, That's what I do. I don't even have
[50:52] Speaker 2: one ready because you don't ever ask. No, Okay, I'll
[50:54] Speaker 2: just prep one out. So I looked on the Google
[50:56] Speaker 2: maps because I know you like it, right. And now
[50:59] Speaker 2: that new place, the place that was his recording studio,
[51:02] Speaker 2: it's a tattoo shop and it just looks like exactly
[51:04] Speaker 2: the same. So I bet some similar stuff is going
[51:06] Speaker 2: down in that same location.
[51:07] Speaker 3: Oh let's go.
[51:11] Speaker 2: Hey, you in the move for a talkback? Yeah, producer Dave,
[51:14] Speaker 2: could you pleasure us without talkback?
[51:17] Speaker 5: No?
[51:17] Speaker 6: I can't do that, but I will play one for you.
[51:21] Speaker 5: Come.
[51:22] Speaker 2: Well, there's a family show Man.
[51:26] Speaker 6: It goes a little something like this.
[51:31] Speaker 2: Oh oh my god, super.
[51:37] Speaker 3: I like cheat.
[51:42] Speaker 5: Hi, guys, just finished listening to the gym trafficking episode,
[51:45] Speaker 5: and I just wanted to add a few things. Elizabeth,
[51:47] Speaker 5: you did say mahone in counting correctly, so way to go.
[51:51] Speaker 5: I'm also a Youngstown State alumni. My mom used to
[51:55] Speaker 5: babysit his daughter when she was really little. And also
[51:59] Speaker 5: the funny thing is his wife used to be a hairstylist,
[52:02] Speaker 5: so she easily could have fixed the.
[52:04] Speaker 3: Mop on his head.
[52:05] Speaker 5: Thanks for all you do, keep up the great work.
[52:07] Speaker 3: Love the show.
[52:09] Speaker 4: Yes, I need a certificate that I actually said something correct.
[52:13] Speaker 2: Dude, silver star, gold star for you.
[52:15] Speaker 3: A little bit star for me, and then there are
[52:17] Speaker 3: all the other intel in there. I love background. Yeah,
[52:20] Speaker 3: so that was fantastic.
[52:21] Speaker 2: Keep them coming, yeah. Well, as always, you can find
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