# Sen. Scott Wiener on California Senate Bill 53

An episode of [Scaling Laws](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1607949880), 21 Oct 2025, 49 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/61e878a1419a9b0013b27134/e/68f6f120dd797ab5c41052aa/media.mp3

California State Senator Scott Wiener, author of Senate Bill 53--a frontier AI safety bill--signed into law by Governor Newsom earlier this month, joins Alan Rozenshtein, Associate Professor at Minnesota Law and Research Director at Lawfare, and Kevin Frazier, AI Innovation and Law Fellow at the University of Texas School of Law and a Senior Editor at Lawfare, to explain the significance of SB 53 in the large debate about how to govern AI. The trio analyze the lessons that Senator Wiener learned from the battle of SB 1047, a related bill that Newsom vetoed last year, explore SB 53’s key provisions, and forecast what may be coming next in Sacramento and D.C. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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