# DZ Kalman on the Role of Faith in AI Policy

An episode of [Scaling Laws](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1607949880), 4 Aug 2026, 50 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/61e878a1419a9b0013b27134/e/6a4bedd8d555352bfa6015d0/media.mp3

DZ Kalman, fellow at the Berkman Klein Center, research fellow at the Shalom Hartman Institute, senior advisor at Sinai & Synapses, and host of Belief in the Future, joins Kevin Frazier, AI Innovation and Law Fellow at the University of Texas School of Law and a Senior Editor at Lawfare, to explore what religious traditions can teach AI governance. DZ and Kevin discuss religious responses to AI, Jewish technoculture, kosher supervision as a model for AI certification, and the limits of AI use in faith contexts. They also connect these traditions to contemporary debates about alignment, institutional trust, human dignity. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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