# S3 Ep.3: “Love Is Never Easy” with Denée Benton and Dr. Erica Armstrong Dunbar

An episode of [The Official Gilded Age Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1605253822), 7 Jul 2025, 1 h 08 min.

Audio: https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/riZUyyw5grsvogjaGa5Z/mgln.ai/e/154/traffic.megaphone.fm/WMHY6153978078.mp3?updated=1751857738

Hosts Alicia Malone and Tom Meyers talk with Denée Benton about Peggy’s evolving storyline, and what it’s like to portray this era of Black history. Then, co-executive producer Dr. Erica Armstrong Dunbar joins the pair to talk about the history behind what gets shown onscreen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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