# The Thread of Redemption: How the Old and New Testaments Point to Jesus

An episode of [Lisa Harper's Back Porch Theology](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1603918454), 1 Dec 2025, 37 min.

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Today on the Back Porch, we welcome Rabbi Jason Sobel for a porch-side chat about how the threads of Scripture ~ Old and New ~ braid into one story pointing to Jesus’s divine identity and mission. We sit with His self-emptying love (kenosis), where humility becomes strength, and find ourselves drawn into shalom - the wholeness, peace, and restoration secured by the cross and resurrection. Pull up a chair and join us on the porch!

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