# First Date Follow-Up: Great Chemistry, Awkward Elevator Rides

An episode of [First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1601656415), 1 Oct 2026, 9:38.

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Meg finally lands a date with her apartment-building crush, James—but a fun trivia night and a kiss turn into unanswered texts and awkward elevator encounters. Did her mid-date phone calls ruin the connection, or is something else keeping him away? The Jubal Show uncovers an unexpected dating deal breaker in this First Date Follow-Up packed with ghosting drama and uncomfortable neighbor tension. Ever been ghosted after what you thought was an amazing date? Do you REALLY want that Second Date? The Jubal Show has your back! On First Date Follow Up, we track down the person who disappeared to get the real reason why. Awkward, hilarious, and sometimes downright shocking—First Date Follow Up delivers the truth, whether you want to hear it or not. Will there be a second date or just secondhand embarrassment? Subscribe to The Jubal Show's First Date Follow Up and find out! ➡︎ Get on The Jubal Show with your story - https://thejubalshow.com This is just a tiny piece of The Jubal Show. You can find every podcast we have, including the full show every weekday right here… ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com/podcasts The Jubal Show is everywhere, and also these places: • Website ➡︎ https://thejubalshow.com • Instagram ➡︎ https://instagram.com/thejubalshow • X/Twitter ➡︎ https://twitter.com/thejubalshow • Tiktok ➡︎ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.jubal.show • Facebook ➡︎ https://facebook.com/thejubalshow • YouTube ➡︎ https://www.youtube.com/@JubalFresh Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Meg is on the phone today for a first date
[0:01] Speaker 1: follow up, and she's getting ghosted by a guy named James.
[0:04] Speaker 1: So in a few minutes, we're going to call him
[0:06] Speaker 1: and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her
[0:07] Speaker 1: and maybe get her another date. But first, Meg, how
[0:10] Speaker 1: long has it been since you heard from James?
[0:12] Speaker 2: Here's the deal. We live in the same building. So
[0:14] Speaker 2: I actually saw him. Yeah, I know.
[0:17] Speaker 3: So I see him in the elevator all the time.
[0:19] Speaker 3: So I actually saw him like this morning. And it's
[0:23] Speaker 3: a little bit awkward just because of all of this.
[0:25] Speaker 3: So but I haven't heard like he hasn't. kind of
[0:28] Speaker 3: followed up by a text or phone which is what
[0:30] Speaker 3: I was kind of waiting for you know what I mean.
[0:32] Speaker 4: Yeah so did you reach out to him other than
[0:35] Speaker 4: seeing him in the elevator yeah.
[0:37] Speaker 3: So I I was sort of expecting a call um
[0:40] Speaker 3: and then this morning when I saw him I just
[0:42] Speaker 3: kind of was like I have to say something because
[0:44] Speaker 3: I haven't heard from him so I just said like
[0:47] Speaker 3: hey you know do you want to go for dinner
[0:48] Speaker 3: sometime and he basically said I'll get back to you
[0:51] Speaker 3: which I feel like is a bad sign.
[0:54] Speaker 1: Yeah, probably not the best. Yeah, exactly. Right.
[0:59] Speaker 2: But it was so great.
[1:00] Speaker 3: Like we went to this trivia night that he had
[1:03] Speaker 3: been telling me about because, you know, I had seen
[1:05] Speaker 3: him in the elevator.
[1:06] Speaker 2: We'd make small chat all the time.
[1:08] Speaker 3: I actually have a tiny confession that I would kind
[1:11] Speaker 3: of plan to be in the elevator when he was there.
[1:13] Speaker 4: Yeah. Been there.
[1:17] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[1:19] Speaker 2: I was like, oh, if I keep running into this guy.
[1:21] Speaker 6: So, yeah.
[1:22] Speaker 2: So I like running.
[1:23] Speaker 3: Into him and we were chatting and he had told
[1:26] Speaker 3: me what this trivia night. And then finally he asked
[1:28] Speaker 3: me out, which I was really psyched about. And we
[1:31] Speaker 3: just like had this great night. We even went back
[1:33] Speaker 3: to his place afterwards.
[1:35] Speaker 4: Well, did something happen? Did anything actually go down on
[1:38] Speaker 4: the date that may have made it a little bit
[1:40] Speaker 4: awkward or that you felt like was a turning point?
[1:43] Speaker 2: Well, here's obviously I have been. analyzing this for days
[1:46] Speaker 2: because it's all I can think of. Yeah.
[1:49] Speaker 3: So the only thing, so I started to go, okay,
[1:51] Speaker 3: maybe it was this because like my sister, she's going
[1:55] Speaker 3: through a bit of a bad kind of breakup right now.
[1:58] Speaker 2: She's a single mom. So she's having a hard time.
[2:01] Speaker 3: She did call me a couple of times.
[2:03] Speaker 2: Oh, it might've been like three or four times when
[2:05] Speaker 2: we were on the date.
[2:07] Speaker 3: And I did answer because I just knew, you know,
[2:11] Speaker 3: and at the time I wasn't thinking, I was like, oh,
[2:13] Speaker 3: I've got to answer.
[2:13] Speaker 6: It's my sister.
[2:14] Speaker 2: You know, she needs me.
[2:15] Speaker 3: But I'm kind of wondering, did that kill the vibe?
[2:18] Speaker 3: And does he think I'm rude, you know, for answering.
[2:20] Speaker 2: The phone so much? And then I'm like, if he
[2:23] Speaker 2: did that to me, yeah, would I be a little pissed?
[2:25] Speaker 2: So I'm wondering if that's it.
[2:27] Speaker 1: Did he say anything about it or did he seem
[2:29] Speaker 1: annoyed by that?
[2:30] Speaker 3: OK, full disclosure. One of them may have come when
[2:33] Speaker 3: we were kind of making out a little bit. So
[2:36] Speaker 3: I guess he seemed a little annoyed when that got
[2:38] Speaker 3: cut off.
[2:40] Speaker 2: But he didn't say anything. It was just kind of.
[2:43] Speaker 3: I kind of feel like, I guess, yeah, that was
[2:44] Speaker 3: kind of the end of the night sort of thing. So,
[2:46] Speaker 3: but he didn't say anything about it. Like he just
[2:48] Speaker 3: was like, okay, you know, good night.
[2:50] Speaker 1: Meg, why don't you catch everybody up on your situation? Yes.
[2:53] Speaker 6: Okay.
[2:54] Speaker 3: So I went out with this amazing guy, James, who
[2:56] Speaker 3: lives in my building. I see him all the time
[2:58] Speaker 3: in the elevator. He finally asked me out. We had
[3:00] Speaker 3: a great time. There was even some makeouts, but it's
[3:05] Speaker 3: been like, oh my God, it's been weeks now.
[3:06] Speaker 2: He has not responded to my last text.
[3:09] Speaker 3: And I've recently seen him in the elevator and basically said, hey,
[3:12] Speaker 3: do you want to go for dinner sometime? And he
[3:14] Speaker 3: basically said, I'll get back to you, which doesn't feel positive.
[3:18] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[3:19] Speaker 6: All right.
[3:20] Speaker 1: And the reason you think you might be getting ghosted
[3:22] Speaker 1: is because you kept answering your phone, right?
[3:25] Speaker 2: I did.
[3:26] Speaker 3: My sister kept calling during the date and she's having
[3:28] Speaker 3: a tough time.
[3:28] Speaker 2: So I did keep answering my phone. Well, yeah, to
[3:31] Speaker 2: be honest.
[3:32] Speaker 1: All right. Well, are you ready for us to call
[3:34] Speaker 1: him and see if I tell us why?
[3:35] Speaker 2: Oh, God. Yeah, I think I'm ready. I'm nervous, but
[3:37] Speaker 2: I'm ready.
[3:37] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[3:38] Speaker 1: Here we go.
[3:39] Speaker 4: Hello?
[3:43] Speaker 1: Hi, may I speak to James, please?
[3:45] Speaker 6: Yeah, this is James.
[3:48] Speaker 1: James, how you doing, man? My name is Jubal. I'm
[3:50] Speaker 1: calling from a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show.
[3:52] Speaker 4: Hi, James. The show's here, too. I'm Nina.
[3:54] Speaker 1: Hi, and I'm Victoria. How are you?
[3:56] Speaker 6: Hey, I'm good. What's up?
[3:59] Speaker 1: Not much. Have you heard the show before?
[4:00] Speaker 6: Ever? Is this something to do with, like, first dates
[4:07] Speaker 6: or something?
[4:08] Speaker 1: Yes actually it does we do it yeah we do
[4:12] Speaker 1: a segment on the show it's called the first date
[4:13] Speaker 1: follow-up it's where if you go out on a date
[4:15] Speaker 1: with somebody and you end up ghosting them they can
[4:17] Speaker 1: email us to get you on the phone and ask
[4:19] Speaker 1: why so we got an email about you from somebody
[4:21] Speaker 1: that's why we're.
[4:22] Speaker 6: Calling oh my god i actually have heard your stuff
[4:26] Speaker 6: before oh my god.
[4:28] Speaker 1: Thank you you know about me yes we got an
[4:30] Speaker 1: email about you okay are you ghosting somebody yeah you
[4:34] Speaker 1: have any idea who Uh.
[4:36] Speaker 6: Yeah, honestly, I'm pretty sure I know who you're talking about. Yeah.
[4:39] Speaker 1: Okay. Who do you think it is? Uh, is it Meg? Yes,
[4:44] Speaker 1: it is Meg. She said she really liked you a
[4:46] Speaker 1: lot and she's confused.
[4:47] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[4:48] Speaker 6: All right. Here's the story. So, I mean, yeah, honestly,
[4:51] Speaker 6: we did have a great date. I had a good time. Um,
[4:55] Speaker 6: the real deal breaker for me, and this might sound
[4:59] Speaker 6: like a small thing, but it's big to me. Uh,
[5:01] Speaker 6: she let it slip that she doesn't like dogs. And
[5:04] Speaker 6: that is a huge deal breaker for me.
[5:07] Speaker 4: Do you have a dog?
[5:08] Speaker 6: No, I don't have a dog right now. We're not
[5:11] Speaker 6: allowed to have dogs in our buildings, but I'm planning
[5:15] Speaker 6: on buying a house someday. And I definitely am getting
[5:18] Speaker 6: a dog when I buy a house. I grew up
[5:19] Speaker 6: with dogs. I love dogs. It's just something I can't
[5:23] Speaker 6: live without having in my life.
[5:26] Speaker 4: I wonder what she would say, though, if you were like,
[5:27] Speaker 4: I need to have dogs.
[5:29] Speaker 2: But what did she say?
[5:29] Speaker 4: Like she said, like she absolutely hated dogs.
[5:31] Speaker 1: She just didn't like them. She's allergic to them.
[5:34] Speaker 6: Well, she was complaining about one of her friend's dogs
[5:38] Speaker 6: and just kind of complaining about the smell and the
[5:42] Speaker 6: mess that it makes all the time. And just kind
[5:44] Speaker 6: of like was like, you know, complaining about this one dog,
[5:47] Speaker 6: but then like, let it get to the point of like,
[5:51] Speaker 6: and that's because of that. I don't like dogs at all.
[5:53] Speaker 6: And that for me was like, well, you're going to
[5:54] Speaker 6: judge all dogs based off this one dog. That is
[5:57] Speaker 6: not for me. That's just not for me, man.
[5:59] Speaker 1: So that's it. Just that she doesn't like dogs.
[6:01] Speaker 6: That is honestly, yeah, it's a huge deal breaker for me.
[6:04] Speaker 6: Like you like, sure, you could you could tolerate dogs,
[6:07] Speaker 6: but I got to have a dog and I can't
[6:10] Speaker 6: foresee myself having a future with somebody who just can't
[6:12] Speaker 6: live with a dog in their life.
[6:13] Speaker 4: I mean, everybody's got their thing. I've never met anybody
[6:16] Speaker 4: that doesn't like dogs.
[6:17] Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't either.
[6:18] Speaker 3: But also, I do want to say like devil's advocate,
[6:21] Speaker 3: like it could be maybe her friend just really is bad,
[6:24] Speaker 3: like not great at taking care of her dog.
[6:26] Speaker 1: Is that like bad to say?
[6:28] Speaker 6: I can see that. But, you know, then you then
[6:30] Speaker 6: you like you got to feel some pity for that
[6:32] Speaker 6: dog and not just complain about it. You talk to
[6:35] Speaker 6: your friend, right? It was just a total deal breaker
[6:38] Speaker 6: for me. The way you had to hear it. I
[6:40] Speaker 6: don't know. It's tough to say the things that she
[6:42] Speaker 6: was saying because it was it was a gut.
[6:44] Speaker 1: Punch to me. Maybe we should just ask her because
[6:46] Speaker 1: she is on the phone listening and wants to talk
[6:47] Speaker 1: to you.
[6:49] Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
[6:51] Speaker 2: Hi, James.
[6:53] Speaker 6: Hey, yeah, hey, I forgot about this part.
[6:58] Speaker 2: I can't believe this.
[7:00] Speaker 5: Like, my God, if I had like 100 guesses, I
[7:03] Speaker 5: would never guess this is why you're ghosting me.
[7:06] Speaker 6: Listen, it's just like, this is why I didn't want
[7:10] Speaker 6: to bring it up. It feels like a little thing
[7:12] Speaker 6: to a lot of people, but it's a big thing
[7:13] Speaker 6: to me. It's a big part of my life. And,
[7:15] Speaker 6: you know, I really did feel like we had some
[7:18] Speaker 6: chemistry and, you know, and But, but just, it's a
[7:22] Speaker 6: hard no for me. It's a real deal breaker.
[7:25] Speaker 2: But oh my God, we did.
[7:27] Speaker 4: Listen, I agree.
[7:28] Speaker 5: I think we had like amazing chemistry, including on that night,
[7:31] Speaker 5: like the buildup to our first date, all that stuff.
[7:34] Speaker 3: And, I guess I'm just like, okay, what if it
[7:36] Speaker 3: was like, I'm okay. I could learn to be okay
[7:39] Speaker 3: around dogs. Like I just wouldn't like pet them. If
[7:42] Speaker 3: I was around a dog, I could be okay with dogs.
[7:44] Speaker 2: Not that I think they're evil. I just don't like them.
[7:48] Speaker 3: They're like, they, I do think they're messy and there's
[7:50] Speaker 3: always dog hair everywhere and like whatever.
[7:52] Speaker 2: But I mean, does that change?
[7:54] Speaker 6: This is what I'm talking about. This is what I'm
[7:57] Speaker 6: talking about. This is a no for me. Absolutely not.
[7:59] Speaker 6: Like you can't even get through a sentence without saying
[8:02] Speaker 6: something negative.
[8:05] Speaker 5: I mean I guess but like it could be worse
[8:07] Speaker 5: I just feel like there's so many worse things like
[8:09] Speaker 5: it's not like I'm like a murderer or like a
[8:11] Speaker 5: stalker and like and I would like those are real
[8:14] Speaker 5: reasons to not be with somebody I just feel like
[8:17] Speaker 5: I don't know.
[8:18] Speaker 6: Someone who doesn't like dogs could be a.
[8:20] Speaker 5: Murderer oh my god um okay so I just feel
[8:25] Speaker 5: like this is such I mean is that a thing
[8:27] Speaker 5: like where you like don't trust people who don't like
[8:29] Speaker 5: people say that and I'm like what does that even
[8:31] Speaker 5: mean like you don't trust people who don't like dogs
[8:32] Speaker 5: like I.
[8:34] Speaker 6: Absolutely don't trust people who don't like dogs. That is
[8:37] Speaker 6: a hard line. Absolutely don't. You know, I was thinking
[8:41] Speaker 6: it might have been fun for a one night stand,
[8:43] Speaker 6: which is why I let it get as far as
[8:44] Speaker 6: it did. But I'm kind of done at this point.
[8:47] Speaker 6: It's a hard no for me.
[8:49] Speaker 3: Wow okay and now knowing that you were just like
[8:51] Speaker 3: hanging on for one night stand starts to make it
[8:54] Speaker 3: feel like a no for me too so that was
[8:57] Speaker 3: a little a little much to hear so what do
[9:00] Speaker 3: i and now if this is great we live in
[9:02] Speaker 3: like what am i.
[9:03] Speaker 2: Supposed to do when i see you in the elevator
[9:04] Speaker 2: we can ignore all.
[9:05] Speaker 6: Of this and well i don't know you know what
[9:09] Speaker 6: time i ride the elevator every day maybe you can avoid.
[9:11] Speaker 1: Getting in the elevator with me james would you like
[9:14] Speaker 1: to go on another day with meg we'll pay for
[9:15] Speaker 1: it no thank you OK, I mean, I.
[9:19] Speaker 2: Thought, yeah, if I mean, we could get together and
[9:21] Speaker 2: talk it out in person and not like this.
[9:24] Speaker 6: No, thanks. I do not want to be murdered.
[9:29] Speaker 1: All right. Well, I guess you got your answer, Meg
[9:31] Speaker 1: and James. Thanks. Thank you for telling us.
[9:34] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[9:35] Speaker 6: Thanks. I really do like the show.
[9:37] Speaker 1: Thanks.
[9:37] Speaker 4: Thank you.

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