# TCAC Greg and Katie: Mysterious packages and gift receipts? Is Katie cheating?

An episode of [War of the Roses - To Catch a Cheater - The Jubal Show](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1601531428), 10 Jul 2026, 11 min.

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Greg has been married to Katie for six years, but over the last few months, everything has changed. A new phone password, private calls, mysterious packages, and a flower receipt have him convinced something is going on. When Katie is offered free flowers during To Catch a Cheater, the person she chooses—and the reason why—leads to an emotional confession that leaves everyone questioning where the line between friendship and infidelity really is. SEO Keywords: To Catch a Cheater, Greg and Katie, emotional cheating, relationship podcast, marriage problems, cheating suspicion, secret relationship, flowers prank, radio relationship segment, relationship advice, emotional affair, trust issues in marriage, The Jubal Show, viral podcast clips Support the show: https://the-jubal-show.beehiiv.com/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: It's time to Catch a Cheater only on the Jubile Show.
[0:05] Speaker 1: And Greg is on the phone today for to catch
[0:07] Speaker 1: a Cheater and he thinks that his wife of six
[0:09] Speaker 1: years named Katie might be messing around. So we'll see
[0:11] Speaker 1: if we can help him out. Greg, Sorry, you're going
[0:14] Speaker 1: through that, man. Tell us why you think your wife
[0:16] Speaker 1: might be cheating?
[0:18] Speaker 2: Well, things started feeling like off about three months ago.
[0:22] Speaker 2: She suddenly put like a password on her phone and
[0:26] Speaker 2: she didn't have one before, and she takes the calls
[0:28] Speaker 2: in the garage in the bathroom.
[0:31] Speaker 1: It's like really weird, like she's going out of the
[0:33] Speaker 1: room to take phone calls.
[0:35] Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like she's never done that before. And
[0:38] Speaker 2: when I ask her about it, she just says it's
[0:40] Speaker 2: like work stuff. But I'm like, I don't know why
[0:42] Speaker 2: you would need to hide work stuff from me like
[0:45] Speaker 2: that or I don't know, it's.
[0:47] Speaker 3: Strange and she's never done that before.
[0:50] Speaker 2: No, this is new behavior, last three months or so.
[0:55] Speaker 3: Weird. Is there anything else that she's doing?
[0:58] Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she's all it's been like weird about
[1:02] Speaker 2: like the shipping packages and stuff or receiving packages. She
[1:05] Speaker 2: insists that like she has to get the packages or
[1:09] Speaker 2: the mail or whatever. And that's really bizarre to me too.
[1:13] Speaker 2: That's also like a new thing, and I don't know
[1:16] Speaker 2: that's that's really suspicious behavior to me.
[1:19] Speaker 3: And it's every time packages delivered she needs to intercept it.
[1:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really strange. And I'm just like, I
[1:26] Speaker 2: don't know that's what's going on with that. And she
[1:29] Speaker 2: doesn't really have like a good reason, you know. It's
[1:33] Speaker 2: kind of like she just says, she just I want
[1:35] Speaker 2: to handle this, and it's kind of like, well, why
[1:38] Speaker 2: I don't get it, and she's no, I mean about that.
[1:44] Speaker 2: That's that reminds me of another thing though, as a
[1:46] Speaker 2: receipt popped up for like flowers, and I didn't buy those,
[1:50] Speaker 2: so I don't know what was going on with that.
[1:52] Speaker 3: Like she bought the flowers or it was like a
[1:54] Speaker 3: receipt like it was given to her.
[1:57] Speaker 2: It seems like it was given to her, but like
[2:00] Speaker 2: if she did buy it for me, then like she
[2:02] Speaker 2: hasn't given it to me. So that's bizarre. And that
[2:04] Speaker 2: was a while ago, so I don't know what was
[2:06] Speaker 2: going on with that either.
[2:07] Speaker 3: Yeah, you would have known for sure. Huh. How are
[2:11] Speaker 3: you guys together? Does she still talk to you. Are
[2:13] Speaker 3: you intimate?
[2:15] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just not the you know, it's not the same.
[2:19] Speaker 2: She seems a little bit off, but it's like, you know,
[2:22] Speaker 2: it's not completely like cut off. We're not on bad
[2:25] Speaker 2: terms or anything. It's just like weird behavior that's making
[2:28] Speaker 2: me also kind of feel like what's going on. I
[2:32] Speaker 2: get it makes me like suspicious and I don't know.
[2:35] Speaker 2: It's definitely affecting things.
[2:37] Speaker 4: Okay, well, you already told us what grocery store she's
[2:40] Speaker 4: a rewards card member at, So we'll play a song
[2:42] Speaker 4: come back, and then call her and pretend to be
[2:44] Speaker 4: from the grocery store and tell her that every single month,
[2:47] Speaker 4: we choose one lucky rewards member who gets free flowers
[2:49] Speaker 4: delivered from our floral department, and.
[2:51] Speaker 1: We'll see if she sends those to you or to
[2:52] Speaker 1: somebody else.
[2:53] Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thanks guys.
[2:55] Speaker 1: All right, we'll get your to Catch Cheater next.
[2:57] Speaker 5: It's the show time Catch a Cheater only on.
[3:02] Speaker 1: The Jubile Show. If you're just joining us for today's
[3:04] Speaker 1: to Catch a Cheater. Greg is on the phone and
[3:05] Speaker 1: he thinks that his wife of six years named Katie
[3:08] Speaker 1: might be cheating. So we're about to call her and
[3:10] Speaker 1: pretend to be from the grocery store that she's a
[3:11] Speaker 1: rewards card member at and tell her that every single month,
[3:14] Speaker 1: we choose one lucky rewards card member who gets free
[3:16] Speaker 1: flowers delivered from our floral department, and we'll see if
[3:19] Speaker 1: she sends those to her husband, Greg or to somebody else,
[3:22] Speaker 1: and then we'll see if we can catch her if
[3:23] Speaker 1: she is cheating. But before we do that, Greg, why
[3:25] Speaker 1: don't you catch us up on your situation again? Real quick?
[3:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, So, about three months ago she started acting strangely.
[3:33] Speaker 2: She put a password on her phone, which she never
[3:35] Speaker 2: had one before. She's taking calls on at the garage
[3:38] Speaker 2: in the bathroom. She claimed this for work, but it
[3:41] Speaker 2: seems strange to me. And then she's been really strange
[3:45] Speaker 2: and secretive about like shipping packages and receiving packages, and
[3:49] Speaker 2: it's all kind of bizarre.
[3:51] Speaker 1: Well, are you ready for us to call her?
[3:54] Speaker 2: Yeah? About as ready as I'll be.
[3:56] Speaker 1: Okay, here we go.
[4:00] Speaker 5: Hello.
[4:01] Speaker 1: Hi, this is Corbett calling from grocers. I was looking
[4:03] Speaker 1: for our rewards card. Remember named Katie.
[4:06] Speaker 5: Yeah the time.
[4:07] Speaker 1: Hi, Katie, Please don't hang up. This is not a
[4:09] Speaker 1: marketing phone call. I'm actually calling with a big congratulations.
[4:12] Speaker 1: You're this month's winner. Thank you so much for your business.
[4:15] Speaker 1: You don't know if you hear us over here were celebrating.
[4:18] Speaker 5: Okay, what did I win? I didn't enter in anything.
[4:22] Speaker 1: Oh well, you did, actually, when you became a member
[4:25] Speaker 1: with us. Every single month we choose one Rewards Card
[4:27] Speaker 1: member who gets a free gift from US flowers delivered
[4:29] Speaker 1: from our Florida department. You've won thirty six long sim
[4:32] Speaker 1: red roses, a box of candy or chocolate, and a
[4:34] Speaker 1: card to be delivered to anybody that you want, absolutely free.
[4:37] Speaker 1: It's actually a three hundred and sixteen dollars value.
[4:40] Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, well I'll yeah, I'll take it.
[4:43] Speaker 1: That's great, no problem, and there's no purchase necessary. I
[4:47] Speaker 1: will not ask you for any credit card information. It's
[4:49] Speaker 1: very simple how it works too. I can take down
[4:51] Speaker 1: the information over the phone in just a matter of
[4:53] Speaker 1: minutes and get y' all confirmed up and ready to go.
[4:56] Speaker 1: Or I can set up a time to call you back,
[4:58] Speaker 1: or you can come down to the store and fill
[4:59] Speaker 1: out some paperwork, whatever is easiest for you.
[5:02] Speaker 5: No, I actually have a break right now, so that's perfect.
[5:04] Speaker 5: I can do it right now.
[5:05] Speaker 1: Oh cool. Okay, Well to get this started, all I
[5:09] Speaker 1: would need from you would be the first and last
[5:10] Speaker 1: name of the person you want to send them to,
[5:12] Speaker 1: and then if you want to put anything on a card,
[5:14] Speaker 1: and then I'll get the address and we'll be good
[5:15] Speaker 1: to go.
[5:17] Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, yeah, So the name is Evan E v A. M.
[5:25] Speaker 1: Evan. Okay, I got that down, Evan, And would you
[5:28] Speaker 1: like to put a card along with these flowers to Evan?
[5:31] Speaker 5: Yeah? That would be great. Is this could write I
[5:36] Speaker 5: couldn't have done this launch without you. Thank you for
[5:41] Speaker 5: always having my back. And if you want to put
[5:43] Speaker 5: like a little heart or something after it, that would
[5:44] Speaker 5: be great.
[5:45] Speaker 1: Sure I can do that. And now I can also
[5:47] Speaker 1: let you know that this is actually a radio show.
[5:50] Speaker 1: It's called The Jewbel Show.
[5:51] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[5:52] Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria, and.
[5:54] Speaker 1: My name is Jewbell. How are you.
[6:00] Speaker 5: I'm good. I guess I don't really understand what's going
[6:03] Speaker 5: on right now.
[6:03] Speaker 1: Well, we do a segment on the show called to
[6:05] Speaker 1: Catch a Cheater where if you think your significant other
[6:08] Speaker 1: might be messing around, you see who they send flowers to,
[6:11] Speaker 1: and your husband, Greg is on the phone.
[6:14] Speaker 5: Yeah, what's going on?
[6:17] Speaker 2: Who's Evan? Are you? Are you cheating on me?
[6:20] Speaker 1: Like?
[6:20] Speaker 2: What's happening?
[6:22] Speaker 5: Wait?
[6:22] Speaker 6: What the is going on right now? I'm literally at work.
[6:25] Speaker 6: I'm feeling very attacks right now, Like what is going on?
[6:28] Speaker 5: Greg?
[6:29] Speaker 2: Look, you've been acting strange. You take you put a
[6:33] Speaker 2: password on your phone when you didn't have one before,
[6:36] Speaker 2: take calls in the bathroom, You're up at like the
[6:39] Speaker 2: team meetings till like freaking late, and all of a sudden,
[6:42] Speaker 2: it's like you're getting mad at me. Why wouldn't I
[6:45] Speaker 2: be suspicious? The shipping You're like, oh, I have to
[6:48] Speaker 2: take all the packages? Is what's that about? And then
[6:51] Speaker 2: you send flowers to some guy named Evan that I've
[6:54] Speaker 2: never heard of. You never even told me about this
[6:56] Speaker 2: person you're sending flowers? You think that's appropriate for like
[6:59] Speaker 2: a friendship of Wower?
[7:01] Speaker 6: No, no, no, it's not appropriate. And I'm really I'm dude,
[7:05] Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Like I you know that I've been stressed
[7:08] Speaker 6: at work and I just don't want to put that
[7:10] Speaker 6: on you. And I don't know, I feel like I'm
[7:13] Speaker 6: not succeeding. And this guy came in for like literally
[7:16] Speaker 6: like for coaching and step and so I've been training.
[7:18] Speaker 5: Him, and I don't know. I just like haven't been
[7:22] Speaker 5: valuing myself lately.
[7:23] Speaker 6: And he he looks up to me, and I haven't
[7:28] Speaker 6: done anything physical whatsoever.
[7:30] Speaker 5: I promise you. I'm not doing anything but like emotionally
[7:33] Speaker 5: for sure. Yeah, Like I think I could have put
[7:36] Speaker 5: more effort into us versus him, but I just didn't
[7:40] Speaker 5: know what to do. And I'm sorry. I'm really sorry.
[7:43] Speaker 3: Wait, so do you want to be physical with him?
[7:47] Speaker 3: You're not, but do you want to be Wait?
[7:50] Speaker 5: Who are you again?
[7:51] Speaker 3: Nina on the Jubil Show.
[7:55] Speaker 5: Okay, sorry, I forgot that there are other people on
[7:57] Speaker 5: the line. Yeah here, yeah, yeah, it's probably Oh god,
[8:04] Speaker 5: this sucks. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Greg, I'm sorry. I'm just.
[8:11] Speaker 2: I'm disappointed. I'm just glad that you admitted it at least,
[8:16] Speaker 2: But like you give flowers to this guy, You're like, oh,
[8:20] Speaker 2: I'm not. I mean, what is this? Like, I'm not
[8:23] Speaker 2: I'm emotionally cheating, but I'm not physically cheating. Isn't emotional
[8:26] Speaker 2: cheating about the same thing? It's physical? I mean, like
[8:29] Speaker 2: it's only one step away. Yeah, No, I suck, I suck.
[8:34] Speaker 5: It sucks. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. What can I do, Like,
[8:39] Speaker 5: what can I do?
[8:40] Speaker 2: You're sorry? You just threw away eight years of marriage
[8:43] Speaker 2: and intimacy in building trust, Like what's wrong with you?
[8:47] Speaker 4: No?
[8:48] Speaker 5: I know, I know, I know, and I'm sorry. I
[8:50] Speaker 5: should have talks with you, but I've just been feeling
[8:53] Speaker 5: really insecure in like business and just like I don't know,
[8:56] Speaker 5: like my looks and everything, and it just it was
[8:58] Speaker 5: just easier and I shouldn't I done it, And I
[9:00] Speaker 5: just want to make it right, and I don't know
[9:02] Speaker 5: how to make it right. Just please, Look.
[9:05] Speaker 2: I trusted you, I supported you.
[9:07] Speaker 5: I mean, is there anything we can do? Like, can
[9:10] Speaker 5: we try counseling? I just want to I want to
[9:12] Speaker 5: make this right.
[9:15] Speaker 2: Look, I'm willing to try it. I don't know if
[9:19] Speaker 2: I can trust you again, but you at the very least,
[9:22] Speaker 2: Like I want to know that you cut this guy
[9:24] Speaker 2: Evan off. I want to see you. I want to
[9:26] Speaker 2: see the text message. I want you to take that
[9:29] Speaker 2: password off your phone and I want you to see
[9:31] Speaker 2: the text message saying I can't talk to you anymore.
[9:33] Speaker 5: I'm married. I don't want it.
[9:35] Speaker 2: I don't want it to be like beating around the bush.
[9:38] Speaker 2: I want this to be over. And if there's any
[9:40] Speaker 2: sign you go back with him. That's it. That's it,
[9:43] Speaker 2: We're done.
[9:44] Speaker 3: I mean, I understand you wanting her to like cut
[9:46] Speaker 3: it off and have some boundaries, but you're sounding a.
[9:48] Speaker 1: Little bit like.
[9:51] Speaker 3: In this situation, you guys are just on different pages.
[9:55] Speaker 5: Yeah no, but I mean I agree, like, I'll do it.
[9:58] Speaker 5: I'll do whatever it takes. I'll cut him off. You
[10:01] Speaker 5: can look through my phone, like, you can go through everything, like,
[10:04] Speaker 5: I don't care. You can go through my entire phone.
[10:06] Speaker 2: Just please, no more secrets.
[10:12] Speaker 3: That's a good start.
[10:13] Speaker 2: I know, I know I won't. I didn't keep secrets
[10:17] Speaker 2: from you. You can look through my phone anytime. I
[10:18] Speaker 2: didn't keep secrets from you, and you know that. And
[10:21] Speaker 2: I'm I'm super upset. This is like, I know, I
[10:26] Speaker 2: don't even know what to think.
[10:28] Speaker 5: You're a good guy, and I suck him. So sorry.
[10:35] Speaker 1: All right, Well, you guys obviously got a lot to
[10:36] Speaker 1: talk about, so we'll let you do that. Yeah, on
[10:39] Speaker 1: your own time. But here you go, Greg, you got
[10:42] Speaker 1: your answer.
[10:43] Speaker 3: She's not really cheating, but kind of.
[10:46] Speaker 2: I appreciate your help.
[10:48] Speaker 5: The jew will shows to catch a cheater.

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