# “A liderança começa pelo exemplo, sempre”

An episode of [Ciência Pop](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1597501034), 13 Nov 2025, 51 min.

Audio: https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/b04d3ae5-22c4-41b6-b20a-aa54000ba759/fb52d2ac-ad07-4fc0-9595-b285012d5854/da1ec4d3-e283-4f6c-bed1-b38d00a52bb8/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=6c28fd86-58c2-44a1-ab3a-adc600bf23f8

Ana Bispo Ramires esteve no Benfica e na seleção nacional de futebol. Há 25 anos que ajuda atletas e líderes a desenvolver competências. Muito direta, explica que não há líderes natos. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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