# Party for Two | Leaving Toronto | Kids and Organized Sports | Surrogacy Debate

An episode of [The Jerry Agar Show](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1591967983), 23 Sep 2026, 38 min.

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It's Party for Two! Jerry is joined by John Tory Jr., Chief Commercial Officer of Great North Airlines, to discuss the biggest stories of the day. A new survey suggests many Torontonians still believe the city is a great place to raise a family, but a significant number say they expect to leave within the next five years. Jerry discusses the challenges facing Toronto, including affordability, housing, and quality of life, and asks listeners whether they have ever considered leaving the city. Jerry then speaks with Steve Joordens, Professor of Psychology at the University of Toronto Scarborough, about the benefits of organized sports and extracurricular activities for children. They discuss what participation teaches young people beyond athletics, including teamwork, resilience, confidence, and social development. Plus, Jerry shares his thoughts on a U.S. surrogacy case after the Supreme Court declined to intervene. The story sparks a discussion about parental rights and the increasingly complex legal questions surrounding surrogacy arrangements.

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