# Heatproof Your Wardrobe: Summer Fabrics, Breathable Silhouettes & The Return Of Thongs

An episode of [Nothing To Wear](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1589394895), 3 Feb 2026, 34 min.

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It’s February, it’s officially sweltering, and the struggle to stay chic without melting is very real. This week on Nothing To Wear, Chelsea is joined by curve model, content creator, and fashion insider Jessica Lucey to unpack the ultimate guide to heatproof fashion. From the specific silhouettes that promote airflow to the "neutral-adjacent" colours that are taking over the runways (hello, butter yellow!), Jessica shares her expert tips on how to break the fashion "rules". Plus, we’re getting into the nitty-gritty of summer dressing: the best moisture-wicking bras to combat boob sweat, why thongs are officially back, and the $50 sun hat you’ll be wearing every single weekend. EVERYTHING MENTIONED: Chelsea's Boujie: DISH Chocolate Silk Skirt $229 Jessica's Boujie: Alaïa Mesh Mules $1320 Chelsea's Budget: The Lullaby Club Gingham Sun Hat Red Gingham $49.95 Jessica's Budget: Therapy Shoes GET YOUR FASHION FIX: Watch us on Youtube this episode goes live at 8pm tonight! Follow us on Instagram Want to shop the pod? Sign up to the Nothing To Wear Newsletter to see all the products mentioned plus more, delivered straight to your inbox after every episode. CREDITS: Host: Chelsea Hui Guest: Jessica Lucey Producer: Ella Maitland Audio Producer: Jacob Round Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris Just so you know — some of the product links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping! Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:08] Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma mea podcast whoever said orange is
[0:16] Speaker 1: the New Pink?
[0:17] Speaker 2: With seriously disturbed laurels for spraying groundbreaking?
[0:21] Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have to do it.
[0:23] Speaker 3: You live for fashion.
[0:25] Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Nothing to Air, the podcast that
[0:28] Speaker 1: solves sashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Chelsea
[0:31] Speaker 1: Kway and each week we talk about all things fashion
[0:33] Speaker 1: to help you figure out how to get more out
[0:35] Speaker 1: of the clothes you already own. This week, we're going
[0:38] Speaker 1: to be talking to Jessica Lucy, who is a curve model,
[0:41] Speaker 1: content creator and she also works for an Australian fashion label.
[0:45] Speaker 1: She's worked in and out of different creative industries throughout
[0:47] Speaker 1: her career and is a real fashion lover. We're into
[0:50] Speaker 1: the warmer months, so today we're going to be unpacking
[0:53] Speaker 1: all things heat proof fashion, from what fabrics and silhouettes
[0:57] Speaker 1: should be wearing to all the brands you need to
[0:59] Speaker 1: be looking out for this summer. It was a really
[1:01] Speaker 1: fun episode. We talked about all things from footwear to
[1:05] Speaker 1: hats to boob sweat. It was a lot of fun.
[1:07] Speaker 1: We got a lot of styling tips, so let's get
[1:09] Speaker 1: into it. Jessica, Welcome, to the Nothing to Wear Pod.
[1:13] Speaker 2: Hello, We're very.
[1:15] Speaker 1: Excited to have you here today. But before we jump
[1:17] Speaker 1: into the topic we're here to talk about. There's two
[1:20] Speaker 1: questions that I love to ask all new guests to
[1:22] Speaker 1: the pod. The first one is can you describe your
[1:26] Speaker 1: style in three words?
[1:27] Speaker 4: It's a hard ask, but I'm actually so excited for
[1:30] Speaker 4: this question, and I like, I had to really think
[1:32] Speaker 4: about it because it's very interesting. So I thought about it,
[1:36] Speaker 4: sat with it, and I would describe my style as fluid, elevated,
[1:42] Speaker 4: and evolving.
[1:43] Speaker 3: I love that evolving is such a good word.
[1:46] Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel evolving because I'm always, like I feel,
[1:49] Speaker 4: I'm very classic.
[1:50] Speaker 2: I like to dress very classic, but I'd like to.
[1:52] Speaker 4: Dip my toes in trends as well, so and I think, like,
[1:55] Speaker 4: especially being plus sized, I like to experiment as well
[1:59] Speaker 4: in those sort of trends, and I feel like that's
[2:01] Speaker 4: why it's always evolving as well evolving.
[2:04] Speaker 1: I love that what items make up ten percent of
[2:06] Speaker 1: your wardrobe that you wear ninety percent of the time.
[2:11] Speaker 4: I think for me it is a basic cotton tea
[2:15] Speaker 4: like me too.
[2:16] Speaker 2: I'm really wearing one today.
[2:18] Speaker 4: I think for me, I like to sort of style
[2:20] Speaker 4: them back with like the more elevated pieces that I
[2:23] Speaker 4: have in my wardrobe. So like, you know, I could
[2:25] Speaker 4: wear some sort of like suited pants or like today,
[2:28] Speaker 4: like I'm wearing like a satin bias cut skirt, and
[2:31] Speaker 4: I think it's really fun to sort of layer those
[2:33] Speaker 4: pieces with those items just to sort of elevate them
[2:36] Speaker 4: abe more. But it's like comfy because I always wear
[2:39] Speaker 4: I wear them to the like cotton shirts, to the
[2:41] Speaker 4: gym everywhere else as well, So it's like a staple
[2:43] Speaker 4: that I wear in so many different ways in my wardrobe.
[2:46] Speaker 1: Yeah, a good quality tea is just one of those
[2:48] Speaker 1: like versatile pieces and you can throw on for really
[2:50] Speaker 1: any occasion. I love the exactly what you were saying,
[2:53] Speaker 1: like dressing down dressier pieces. So I love even like
[2:56] Speaker 1: an embellish skirt, throw on a T shirt and immediately
[2:59] Speaker 1: it's kind.
[2:59] Speaker 3: Of wearable for every day. Love that.
[3:01] Speaker 1: Okay, So before we jump into talking about all things
[3:05] Speaker 1: sort of summer fashion, I wanted to get a little
[3:07] Speaker 1: bit of insight into you and your career. So first
[3:11] Speaker 1: let's get back to the beginning. So you've done a
[3:13] Speaker 1: lot of modeling and content creation. How did this sort
[3:16] Speaker 1: of all start for you.
[3:18] Speaker 2: Well, it kind of like had this like slow evolution
[3:22] Speaker 2: in a way.
[3:22] Speaker 4: So I was working for a fashion retailer in a
[3:27] Speaker 4: retail store for many years, and I always loved fashion
[3:32] Speaker 4: and always had a passion for it. And while working
[3:34] Speaker 4: in that retail store, there was a modeling competition. It
[3:38] Speaker 4: was called the United Curves Model Search, and so I
[3:41] Speaker 4: entered that modeling competition and I got in the top
[3:44] Speaker 4: ten and I.
[3:45] Speaker 2: Just thought that was wild.
[3:45] Speaker 4: So that was Australia wide and I thought, oh, my goodness,
[3:49] Speaker 4: is this happening. And that sort of is what escalated
[3:52] Speaker 4: my career into modeling. I then started creating content on
[3:56] Speaker 4: social media, sharing my outfits. It became a bit of
[3:59] Speaker 4: a passion of mine because it was a bit of
[4:01] Speaker 4: a pain point as well, Like I was like, yeah,
[4:03] Speaker 4: I want to wear cool clothes and I want to
[4:05] Speaker 4: see people like me represented in the media things like that.
[4:08] Speaker 4: So it became a passion of mine to start sharing
[4:12] Speaker 4: my I guess fashion inspiration. So then content creation then
[4:17] Speaker 4: naturally led into me being signed with an agency. So
[4:20] Speaker 4: then I started modeling more professionally and that sort of
[4:23] Speaker 4: escalated there and then naturally, just being in that space
[4:28] Speaker 4: I had gained like a lot of connections. I was
[4:31] Speaker 4: a part of a Facebook group called the Founding fifty,
[4:35] Speaker 4: which is now the career path I've gone for. I'm
[4:38] Speaker 4: now working for a clothing label called de Gale and
[4:42] Speaker 4: so their size is fourteen to twenty four and so
[4:45] Speaker 4: now I work for a clothing brand, running their social media,
[4:48] Speaker 4: doing their content creation and influencer partnership. So it's a
[4:52] Speaker 4: really exciting space to be in. So it kind of
[4:55] Speaker 4: like marries up with everything I do in I guess
[4:58] Speaker 4: the modeling and fashion.
[4:59] Speaker 3: World as yeah, I love that.
[5:01] Speaker 1: And when it comes to fashion, obviously you're in the
[5:03] Speaker 1: fashion industry, you'll work in fashion, You're always kind of
[5:06] Speaker 1: around it. What is it in particular that inspires you.
[5:10] Speaker 4: I just think I want to break the ceiling. I
[5:12] Speaker 4: just want to keep breaking that ceiling that I feel
[5:15] Speaker 4: like for so many years, there's like this misconception that
[5:19] Speaker 4: people who are above a size fourteen don't want to
[5:22] Speaker 4: participate in trends or don't want, you know, to wear
[5:25] Speaker 4: what everybody else is wearing. So I think that's where
[5:28] Speaker 4: my main drive is is like no, I just really
[5:31] Speaker 4: want to sort of keep challenging that barrier.
[5:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, and you talked a little bit about there being
[5:36] Speaker 1: gaps in terms of your experience of fashion prior to
[5:39] Speaker 1: kind of entering the industry.
[5:41] Speaker 3: What have sort of been.
[5:42] Speaker 1: The highs and the lows of being in the Australian
[5:46] Speaker 1: fashion industry from your experience, I think.
[5:48] Speaker 4: The highs have definitely been that there has been such
[5:52] Speaker 4: a huge progress, Like there has been massive progress in
[5:56] Speaker 4: the space, and you do see a lot of brands
[5:58] Speaker 4: extending their sizes, which is really exciting to see. But
[6:03] Speaker 4: in that same breath, when those brands do extend their sizes,
[6:07] Speaker 4: they get backlash like it's not like it's not good enough.
[6:09] Speaker 4: But I think we should keep celebrating the progress. And
[6:13] Speaker 4: I think that's like where that high and low comes in,
[6:15] Speaker 4: as you can see that progress happening. Yeah, like is
[6:18] Speaker 4: it happening fast enough? Like maybe not, but I think
[6:21] Speaker 4: we should like reflect and say it is happening. There
[6:24] Speaker 4: are people responding, there are brands that are trying to
[6:29] Speaker 4: do better. But I think as well, there's also the
[6:32] Speaker 4: lows is when when there is a plus sized brand
[6:35] Speaker 4: that sort of brings out I guess clothing that is,
[6:39] Speaker 4: I guess what women have been asking for. But then
[6:42] Speaker 4: there's that backlash like oh, the price points too high,
[6:45] Speaker 4: or there's always that sort of like you know, that
[6:48] Speaker 4: hard sort of ground where it's like, well, this is
[6:50] Speaker 4: what we were asking for. We've made a products like
[6:53] Speaker 4: you know, for me, I love brands like Dish, but
[6:55] Speaker 4: they they they do stop a size sixteen. So you know,
[6:59] Speaker 4: when a brand like like de Gale does release I
[7:02] Speaker 4: guess trends that are similar in line, there is that
[7:05] Speaker 4: sort of like that that would be something that would
[7:07] Speaker 4: be hard if there's that sort of backlash saying that
[7:09] Speaker 4: the price points unattainable or things like that. So I
[7:12] Speaker 4: think there's like so many highs like their progress, but
[7:14] Speaker 4: I guess that is that bit of the low sort
[7:16] Speaker 4: of trying to navigate that.
[7:18] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[7:18] Speaker 1: Well, I love that idea of like as you've put it,
[7:21] Speaker 1: sort of celebrating progress and not necessarily perfection and really
[7:25] Speaker 1: encouraging brands to continue to become more diverse.
[7:29] Speaker 3: And yeah, I love that idea. Today you're going to.
[7:31] Speaker 1: Be talking about we really want all your fashion tips
[7:33] Speaker 1: and all of your insights. We're going to be talking
[7:35] Speaker 1: about all things summer. It's February, it's very hot, and
[7:41] Speaker 1: I think it is a struggle to one stay on
[7:44] Speaker 1: top of what the summer trends are, but also dress
[7:48] Speaker 1: for hot weather. That is a challenge for a lot
[7:50] Speaker 1: of people. So we're going to be talking about all
[7:52] Speaker 1: things like picking the right fabrics, footwear, different silhouettes. So
[7:56] Speaker 1: first up, let's start with fabrics. Yeah, we're always told
[8:00] Speaker 1: to wear natural fibers like cotton and linen and things,
[8:03] Speaker 1: but sometimes I do feel like fabrics like cotton do
[8:07] Speaker 1: kind of hold on to sweat and cling a little bit.
[8:09] Speaker 1: I'm curious for you, what are your personal go to
[8:13] Speaker 1: fabrics for the summertime.
[8:15] Speaker 4: I think for me, linen and cotton divas, like that's
[8:19] Speaker 4: where I tend to sort of always gravitate towards. But
[8:23] Speaker 4: I think there's also you know, if you do want
[8:26] Speaker 4: to sort of wear fabrics that aren't as breathable, I
[8:29] Speaker 4: think that's that's what it ties back to, Mike. I
[8:31] Speaker 4: love to wear like a cotton tea, Like, if my
[8:34] Speaker 4: bottoms aren't necessarily a more breathable fabric, I sort of
[8:38] Speaker 4: like to sort of layer or pair it with an
[8:41] Speaker 4: item that might help have that sort of air flow
[8:43] Speaker 4: and breatheability. So I think I do sort of always
[8:47] Speaker 4: gravitate more towards the linens and cottons, and I think
[8:50] Speaker 4: like the weave and everything makes a huge difference to
[8:54] Speaker 4: in terms of like the airflow. So it just really
[8:57] Speaker 4: depends on how tight or how thick the fabric is too.
[8:59] Speaker 4: But I do feel cotton and linen are definitely your
[9:03] Speaker 4: go to for summer.
[9:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure to stay cool.
[9:07] Speaker 1: I would agree linen for me is like top choice
[9:09] Speaker 1: for summer. A random one for me also is like
[9:12] Speaker 1: this sounds crazy, but marino wool. I know that's usually
[9:15] Speaker 1: associated with winter time, but like a very thin sort
[9:19] Speaker 1: of marino wool, Well.
[9:21] Speaker 2: It's the same as like the wool blankets. They keep
[9:24] Speaker 2: you cool.
[9:24] Speaker 4: And yes, like I think there is definitely a space
[9:29] Speaker 4: for like knits and wool in summer.
[9:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, sort of worn correctly agreed.
[9:33] Speaker 1: I think it's one hundred cent of what you were saying.
[9:34] Speaker 1: It's to do with the thickness how it's woven. And
[9:37] Speaker 1: like reno wol's a great one because it, like thermoregulates,
[9:39] Speaker 1: so it keeps you cooler in the summer.
[9:41] Speaker 3: I think that's like something that sounds.
[9:42] Speaker 1: Ridiculousleft on, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent is left on. Yeah, Okay,
[9:47] Speaker 1: So we talked about fabrics. What about the cut of
[9:51] Speaker 1: an item when it comes to summer, we want airflow.
[9:54] Speaker 1: What are the specific silhouettes that you sort of gravitate towards.
[9:58] Speaker 4: What I'm seeing a lot lately is they're like the
[10:02] Speaker 4: long tunics yep, And they're not a lot of them
[10:04] Speaker 4: aren't necessarily cotton or linen. They are they might be
[10:08] Speaker 4: like a viscos or a polyesa, just say, but because
[10:12] Speaker 4: they have like a side split or they have something
[10:15] Speaker 4: in there that's going to sort of promote that airflow.
[10:17] Speaker 4: So I think when you're looking at certain cuts, you know,
[10:20] Speaker 4: if you have a T shirt that has the little
[10:21] Speaker 4: side splits, or you have sort of like a boat
[10:24] Speaker 4: neck tee that sort of shows a bit of shoulder,
[10:26] Speaker 4: like you know, heat rises. So I think like if
[10:28] Speaker 4: we're being mindful of how sort of like the air
[10:31] Speaker 4: is going to escape and like when it's sort of
[10:34] Speaker 4: coming out of our bodies, so to speak, I think
[10:36] Speaker 4: that's really important in terms of cuts of like different items.
[10:39] Speaker 4: So I think that's like where it ties back, Like
[10:42] Speaker 4: if I am going to wear a top like that
[10:43] Speaker 4: that is a bit longer, I do look for those
[10:46] Speaker 4: little splits and those little things that are going to
[10:48] Speaker 4: create a bit of movement, airflow, not too tight.
[10:52] Speaker 2: Things like that.
[10:53] Speaker 3: It's a great tip as all.
[10:54] Speaker 1: I think it doesn't have to be like obviously we
[10:55] Speaker 1: talk about fabric, we talk about cut. It could be
[10:58] Speaker 1: either all like you could have you know, if the
[11:00] Speaker 1: material is not necessarily one that's super breathable, the cut
[11:03] Speaker 1: and you're saying things like a slit or the way
[11:05] Speaker 1: that the material is cut make it huge difference in
[11:07] Speaker 1: terms of whether it's going to make you really hot
[11:09] Speaker 1: during the day.
[11:10] Speaker 4: Yeah, and like a line flowy dresses things like that. Yeah,
[11:13] Speaker 4: definitely things that I look out for.
[11:14] Speaker 2: Love that.
[11:15] Speaker 1: And are there any particular Aussie brands that you feel
[11:18] Speaker 1: like are really nailing the breathable, lightweight sort of styles
[11:21] Speaker 1: that we should be wearing during summer.
[11:22] Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, there's a couple I think like for
[11:26] Speaker 4: me personally at the moment, I love I love brands
[11:29] Speaker 4: like Vagary the label. They do beautiful, flowy dresses, gorgeous
[11:33] Speaker 4: for summer. I do find that, Like I've got pieces
[11:35] Speaker 4: from them that just repeat every summer because they're.
[11:37] Speaker 2: Just a perfect throum on. Yeah.
[11:40] Speaker 4: Commonry also do a lot of like beautiful sort of
[11:44] Speaker 4: linens and stuff and cottons as well, like your poplin
[11:47] Speaker 4: sort of cotton teas, things like that. Other brands that
[11:50] Speaker 4: I don't necessarily shop at but I think are doing
[11:53] Speaker 4: really well are brands like Sneaky Link Verge Girl, seeing
[11:58] Speaker 4: them pop up everywhere and sort of seeing those sort
[12:00] Speaker 4: of like you know, cotton shirt trends over like you know,
[12:03] Speaker 4: a sequince skirt for exams ample, and I think, like
[12:08] Speaker 4: that's a really cool way to sort of play with fashion.
[12:10] Speaker 4: But I think you could still be quite cool in
[12:13] Speaker 4: a skirt like that, So I think they're doing it
[12:16] Speaker 4: really well at the moment.
[12:17] Speaker 1: What are some really simple styling tips that you feel
[12:21] Speaker 1: like can really elevate an outfit during summer?
[12:24] Speaker 4: Honestly, I think it's cliche, but accessories. I think accessories like,
[12:29] Speaker 4: for example, I have this really plain linen dress. It's
[12:34] Speaker 4: just sort of like MAXI sort of dress, and it
[12:37] Speaker 4: does It's just plain white linen, and so to really
[12:40] Speaker 4: elevate it, like I'm loving the scarf trend, like rapping
[12:43] Speaker 4: a staff around the waist, or you know, the bangles,
[12:47] Speaker 4: big chunky bangles at the moment, chunky necklaces. I think
[12:51] Speaker 4: you know, your beaded necklaces. If you have these like
[12:53] Speaker 4: really interesting sort of elements to your outfit, I think,
[12:57] Speaker 4: you know, if you have a really plain outfit, that's
[12:59] Speaker 4: the way you can sort of really elevate a look.
[13:02] Speaker 1: I was going to say, the necklace you're wearing today,
[13:04] Speaker 1: it's like kind of two layers.
[13:06] Speaker 3: It's a statement necklace. I love it.
[13:08] Speaker 2: Pick this one up from Tacuba.
[13:10] Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, I was very nice. Just caught my eye
[13:13] Speaker 4: and I was like, yeah, you're coming home with me.
[13:14] Speaker 1: I love it. I love it so much so and
[13:17] Speaker 1: I agree. I think when it is summer and it's hot,
[13:21] Speaker 1: fuss free dressing is often the way that I personally go,
[13:24] Speaker 1: and so dressing in a way that's lightweight, but then
[13:27] Speaker 1: throwing on accessories is like the best way to still
[13:30] Speaker 1: feel like you're put together and still a fashion girl.
[13:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, same.
[13:33] Speaker 1: There's obviously trends that come and go. What is the
[13:36] Speaker 1: fashion trend this season that you're like most excited about
[13:39] Speaker 1: that gets you really excited that you're excited to be
[13:42] Speaker 1: a part of.
[13:43] Speaker 4: I'm actually obsessed with the sequence, like, which is a
[13:49] Speaker 4: little bit crazy for me because I am a little
[13:51] Speaker 4: bit more of your sort of classic minimalists at times.
[13:55] Speaker 4: But I'm seeing that, I'm like, that's something I can
[13:57] Speaker 4: sort of dip my toes in again. Like I think
[14:00] Speaker 4: that goes back to like my evolving fashion style where
[14:03] Speaker 4: I see that and because like today I'm wearing a
[14:05] Speaker 4: satin by Cuts with a tea. I see myself wearing
[14:09] Speaker 4: something like that because it's something that I'm already loving,
[14:11] Speaker 4: and I think sequence always come back, They're always having
[14:14] Speaker 4: a moment. So I'm very conscious of like not sort
[14:17] Speaker 4: of like jumping on a trend like just because and
[14:20] Speaker 4: so I really need to sit and think about how
[14:22] Speaker 4: I'm going to incorporate it into.
[14:23] Speaker 2: My into my wardrobe. Right, it does excite me.
[14:26] Speaker 4: It's something that I feel will sort of you know,
[14:29] Speaker 4: even like if you have it ears down to come
[14:31] Speaker 4: that could be the young people want to go to
[14:33] Speaker 4: a as a mermaid to address up party, something you
[14:35] Speaker 4: can rewear exactly. I think it's just one of those
[14:38] Speaker 4: items that I think are fun.
[14:39] Speaker 1: Is that your usual approach to sort of trends? Like
[14:41] Speaker 1: there are so many trends, micro trends that come up
[14:43] Speaker 1: every single year. Obviously we both work in fashion. What
[14:46] Speaker 1: is your sort of approach to like seeing a trend,
[14:48] Speaker 1: whether you invest in it, and are you someone who
[14:50] Speaker 1: generally buys into trends?
[14:51] Speaker 4: Yeah, I dip in and out. Like I think, there's
[14:54] Speaker 4: been times where I can't participate in a trend, which
[14:57] Speaker 4: is interesting because it's not I guess in my size
[15:00] Speaker 4: or like things like that, which is For example, the
[15:03] Speaker 4: scarf trend was one that I really wanted to be
[15:06] Speaker 4: a part of Restore. I went into I put a
[15:08] Speaker 4: scarf around my waist and it wasn't big enough. And
[15:11] Speaker 4: so I was actually sitting in the office a couple
[15:13] Speaker 4: of months ago and I turned to Jamie, our designer,
[15:16] Speaker 4: I went, Jamie, I need a scarf.
[15:18] Speaker 2: I need a scarf. I just want.
[15:20] Speaker 4: I really loved the sort of silhouette that it gave
[15:23] Speaker 4: and I really wanted to participate in that trend. And
[15:25] Speaker 4: in my head, a scarf is something that has multi
[15:28] Speaker 4: uses and it's something that I really wanted to incorporate
[15:31] Speaker 4: in my wardrobe.
[15:32] Speaker 2: So I turned to her.
[15:33] Speaker 4: And I said, please, can you please design a scarf
[15:35] Speaker 4: for us plus sized divas?
[15:37] Speaker 2: I think I need one?
[15:38] Speaker 4: And she did it, and so I'm so excited for that,
[15:41] Speaker 4: and I think it's a type of garment that anyone
[15:44] Speaker 4: could actually buy, because you know, I have a friend
[15:46] Speaker 4: that isn't plus size that she tried on it.
[15:48] Speaker 2: It looked beautiful as a little tie dress on her,
[15:50] Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my goodness.
[16:01] Speaker 1: So when it comes to summer, we all know the
[16:04] Speaker 1: dreaded boob sweat.
[16:06] Speaker 3: It's an ever happens to us all.
[16:09] Speaker 1: Is there a specific bra or bra lette that is
[16:12] Speaker 1: breathable but supportive that you like?
[16:15] Speaker 4: Yeah, I really love Nala, So I know that they
[16:20] Speaker 4: use sort of like a like a bamboo type fabric,
[16:24] Speaker 4: and so do booty. Booty and Nala are problem I
[16:27] Speaker 4: go to for like breatheability, comfort, everything, So whether you prefer,
[16:33] Speaker 4: I guess, an underwire or not, they have like both
[16:37] Speaker 4: those options at Nila, which I love, but I feel
[16:39] Speaker 4: like it's very moisture wicking, those sorts of materials similar
[16:42] Speaker 4: to sort of active wear and things like that. So
[16:45] Speaker 4: they're definitely my go tos for for undergarments in summer,
[16:49] Speaker 4: just for that breatheability. I don't tend to really go
[16:51] Speaker 4: for any of like the lazy ones. I like to
[16:54] Speaker 4: go for comfort.
[16:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm the same. Comfort is like number one,
[16:57] Speaker 1: especially during summer. Yes, the bandu tops and things I
[17:01] Speaker 1: love too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean comfort. Yeah you're
[17:04] Speaker 1: saying it's very important to me too when it comes
[17:07] Speaker 1: to dressing in any sort of way. But even like footwear,
[17:10] Speaker 1: very very important to have a comfortable shoe. I feel
[17:14] Speaker 1: like in summer sometimes I love a sneak. I'm a
[17:16] Speaker 1: sneaker girl like through and through, but I find during
[17:18] Speaker 1: summer it can be a little warm and not necessarily
[17:21] Speaker 1: like my number one.
[17:22] Speaker 3: Shoe of choice.
[17:23] Speaker 1: What about for you, like, what are you loving this
[17:25] Speaker 1: time of year on your feet?
[17:27] Speaker 2: Can I just say I am so happy that thongs
[17:29] Speaker 2: are back?
[17:31] Speaker 1: Me too, Let's say it again, thongs.
[17:33] Speaker 4: Are back, songs are back, like, I'm into it, and
[17:37] Speaker 4: even the little kitten heels.
[17:38] Speaker 1: We're both wearing a pair of little kitten hill shades.
[17:43] Speaker 2: Obsessed.
[17:45] Speaker 4: I am not one to sort of like care that
[17:47] Speaker 4: my dogs are out in the office. Same I could
[17:50] Speaker 4: tell us I'm glad that I work in an office
[17:52] Speaker 4: space that isn't as corporate we can sort of have
[17:56] Speaker 4: fun with fashion.
[17:56] Speaker 2: But as soon as I saw like thong was coming.
[17:59] Speaker 4: Back, like your archies and all those really cool fun colors,
[18:02] Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, that's my that's my jam. But
[18:05] Speaker 4: I think my old turn and it would probably I've
[18:08] Speaker 4: been loving like the mesh ballet flats as well, and
[18:11] Speaker 4: sort of like any of like those fishnets sort of
[18:13] Speaker 4: mules and things like that. Love so I think they're
[18:15] Speaker 4: really cool alternatives. But I think as well, like, yeah,
[18:19] Speaker 4: sort of soft leather slides, like if you're looking for
[18:21] Speaker 4: something more like for an all day where comfortable, like
[18:25] Speaker 4: I think like looking at like sort of like your
[18:26] Speaker 4: Birkenstocks and things like that, your Fishermen sandals that have
[18:29] Speaker 4: a bit more of that support. Yeah, Franky four a
[18:34] Speaker 4: really great brand call sort of comfortability in terms of
[18:37] Speaker 4: like sandals that look really elevated, So definitely might go
[18:41] Speaker 4: to there.
[18:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so many good options that I love that,
[18:43] Speaker 1: but I love that we've aligned on.
[18:44] Speaker 3: It like a old sandal.
[18:47] Speaker 1: Love it. And Okay, we've talked about a bunch of things, fabrics, silhouettes, shoes.
[18:54] Speaker 1: When it comes to dresses, obviously a summer sort of staple.
[18:58] Speaker 1: Flowy dresses are really everywhere during the summer. What are
[19:01] Speaker 1: some of the brands that you're personally loving right now
[19:03] Speaker 1: that do like the flowy airy dress really well.
[19:07] Speaker 4: I have a dress from Fate the label that it's
[19:11] Speaker 4: a cotton rib at the top and it has like
[19:13] Speaker 4: that little V V line and then that real a
[19:16] Speaker 4: line skirt.
[19:17] Speaker 1: I love that.
[19:18] Speaker 4: That is probably one of my favorite dresses that I
[19:20] Speaker 4: have in my wardrobe because its same again, like can
[19:23] Speaker 4: pop it on. It's just effortless, and I think that's
[19:26] Speaker 4: probably like my if I could say, my number one
[19:29] Speaker 4: dress that I have on rotation all the time is
[19:32] Speaker 4: that one, because yeah, what.
[19:33] Speaker 3: Color did you say it was?
[19:34] Speaker 2: It? It's white. It's just plain white.
[19:36] Speaker 4: I'm not a big print girl, like I do have
[19:38] Speaker 4: a few different prints, but I'm very particular on my prints.
[19:41] Speaker 4: But you will see me wearing a lot of sort
[19:43] Speaker 4: of neutral colors. I'm not very neutral girly.
[19:46] Speaker 2: And then I find that I accessorize with my colors
[19:49] Speaker 2: and makes it like my bag and things like that.
[19:52] Speaker 2: I tend to be more printed or again like a
[19:54] Speaker 2: printed scarf for.
[19:55] Speaker 3: A little accent.
[19:57] Speaker 1: I love that. I mean I'm a neutral girlie as well.
[20:00] Speaker 1: And summer's usually a time that's often associated with like
[20:03] Speaker 1: right pops of color. Oh you can have a little
[20:05] Speaker 1: bit more fun. So like for the neutral girl us
[20:07] Speaker 1: out there, what is a way that you can kind
[20:10] Speaker 1: of incorporate And you talked a little about accessories. Yeah,
[20:12] Speaker 1: the best way to incorporate pops of color if that's
[20:15] Speaker 1: not usually sort of the palette that you go for.
[20:18] Speaker 4: I think definitely like keep in mind, like I think
[20:20] Speaker 4: keeping in mind sort of what your sort of favorite
[20:24] Speaker 4: color is in terms of like your tone, like what
[20:26] Speaker 4: you want to.
[20:26] Speaker 2: Wear, if you sort of like buy accessories in that color.
[20:29] Speaker 4: Like if I know at home, I have a lot
[20:31] Speaker 4: of I have some like yellow shoes for example. Like
[20:34] Speaker 4: if I see like a shirt that has like yellow
[20:36] Speaker 4: elements in it, I'll be like, Okay, that's going to
[20:38] Speaker 4: fit back with my white skirt or you know, I
[20:42] Speaker 4: like to sort of think about what I've already got
[20:45] Speaker 4: at home that has color in it, and if I
[20:46] Speaker 4: see something in that color, I'm like, that's going to
[20:48] Speaker 4: mix a match perfectly. Or colors that go together, like
[20:51] Speaker 4: I love pink and red together things like that. Yeah,
[20:54] Speaker 4: So I think just I'm not afraid, like if you're
[20:58] Speaker 4: a mutuale dresser, like having that little bit of dopamine
[21:01] Speaker 4: in your accessories and in those little elements. So if
[21:04] Speaker 4: you see like a pair of sunglasses that have like
[21:07] Speaker 4: red rim and things like that. I think that's how
[21:09] Speaker 4: you can sort of add in those sort of pops
[21:11] Speaker 4: of color and detail through like fun accessories.
[21:14] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[21:15] Speaker 1: I also love that tip, the idea of shopping colors
[21:17] Speaker 1: that you already like, because then I think oftentimes you
[21:21] Speaker 1: are if you are sort of chasing whatever color might
[21:23] Speaker 1: be in season right now or everyone else is wearing
[21:26] Speaker 1: the seasons do cycle through, And I think a really
[21:28] Speaker 1: great way to do it is buy colors that spark
[21:31] Speaker 1: joy for you personally, and that's something that you can
[21:33] Speaker 1: rewear for seasons to come.
[21:34] Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree love that.
[21:36] Speaker 1: I mean talking of the color of the year or
[21:38] Speaker 1: color of the seasons, there's obviously a lot of talk
[21:41] Speaker 1: about what that is for summer in your opinion, like
[21:44] Speaker 1: what's the color of this summer or the color that
[21:46] Speaker 1: we're going to be seeing everywhere on everyone.
[21:48] Speaker 4: I think like your buttery yellow and your soft blue. Yes,
[21:53] Speaker 4: I think are going to be those colors, which excites
[21:56] Speaker 4: me as a neutral girl because I think they pair
[21:58] Speaker 4: so well with neutral colors. So even like you're soft
[22:02] Speaker 4: blue with brown, like for your choky you know your
[22:05] Speaker 4: girls who love that chocky brown color, I think blue
[22:08] Speaker 4: looks beautiful both yellow and brown, to be honest. So
[22:11] Speaker 4: I think that's definitely the color of the summer, and
[22:13] Speaker 4: I'm seeing that color sort of coming in everywhere at
[22:17] Speaker 4: the moment.
[22:17] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean blue.
[22:19] Speaker 1: I remember like spring summer twenty six, like all across
[22:22] Speaker 1: the runways there were so many blue accents and things
[22:25] Speaker 1: and the pairing of like brown and blue.
[22:27] Speaker 3: So I agree with you on that. I think that
[22:28] Speaker 3: color is going to be everywhere this summer.
[22:30] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[22:30] Speaker 1: And also like, yeah, yellow and like a buddy yellow
[22:32] Speaker 1: and a light blue kind of feel neutral adjacent what
[22:36] Speaker 1: you were saying.
[22:37] Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred percent.
[22:38] Speaker 1: They don't really feel like bright pops of colors to me,
[22:40] Speaker 1: and something that feel like really easily integratable into any
[22:44] Speaker 1: sort of wardrobe.
[22:45] Speaker 4: Yeah, especially if you have like a chocolate brown bag
[22:47] Speaker 4: for example. I feel that's like another dark element to
[22:50] Speaker 4: add to sort of like the light that you're playing with.
[22:52] Speaker 4: I think, you know, sometimes black can be really harsh,
[22:55] Speaker 4: and so I think like those browns, browns still having
[22:59] Speaker 4: a moment as well this summer.
[23:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, I can, I can notice.
[23:01] Speaker 4: So I love that brown still incorporates and goes with
[23:04] Speaker 4: those colors.
[23:05] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that.
[23:07] Speaker 1: Okay, So I want to talk a little bit about
[23:09] Speaker 1: your work at DeGale. We spoke about it a little
[23:12] Speaker 1: bit today, but obviously doing content and community management.
[23:16] Speaker 3: Talk to me a.
[23:16] Speaker 1: Little bit about the work that you do there and
[23:19] Speaker 1: also why it's so important to you.
[23:21] Speaker 4: Yeah, so that goes back to the founding fifty. I
[23:24] Speaker 4: was a part of that Facebook group and so a
[23:26] Speaker 4: little bit more about that is they got a bunch
[23:28] Speaker 4: of women together in this Facebook group before they even
[23:31] Speaker 4: launched the brand, and I was actually a part of
[23:33] Speaker 4: that group. They did like teams meetings where everyone gave feedback,
[23:37] Speaker 4: like so it was women who were above a size
[23:39] Speaker 4: fourteen sort of just giving feedback about what we want,
[23:42] Speaker 4: what we want to see in fashion and what I
[23:47] Speaker 4: guess what needs to sort of change in the space.
[23:50] Speaker 4: And so that really excited me being a part of
[23:52] Speaker 4: that group and being a part.
[23:53] Speaker 2: Of that process.
[23:55] Speaker 4: And you know, I didn't think that I like didn't
[23:58] Speaker 4: think that it was going to go anywhere from there.
[24:01] Speaker 4: But one day DeGale slid into my DMS and was like, Hey,
[24:06] Speaker 4: we'd love to chat to you further. So I sort
[24:09] Speaker 4: of met with them and they're saying, look, we're looking
[24:11] Speaker 4: for someone to sort of champion our brand and be
[24:14] Speaker 4: that face of the community, because I do like we
[24:17] Speaker 4: do have a bit of a community online in that
[24:19] Speaker 4: sort of curve space, and they just wanted someone to
[24:22] Speaker 4: sort of champion that, and so I feel it's almost
[24:26] Speaker 4: like sort of like an ambassador for the brand as well,
[24:29] Speaker 4: Like when I come online, like people sort of relate
[24:32] Speaker 4: to that, So it's sort of like that community. That's
[24:34] Speaker 4: where that sense of community comes from. So when I
[24:37] Speaker 4: joined the team, they were looking for someone to sort
[24:39] Speaker 4: of manage the socials, and obviously, with my content creator
[24:43] Speaker 4: background as well, I sort of brought that to the table.
[24:46] Speaker 4: So I get to have a lot of fun in
[24:48] Speaker 4: that space. So obviously there's all the admin work, all
[24:51] Speaker 4: that sort of stuff, but I think my main role
[24:53] Speaker 4: there is like that community engagement and also that content
[24:58] Speaker 4: creation piece, So I love We just recently did the
[25:01] Speaker 4: holiday hotline and we got like this old.
[25:03] Speaker 2: Vintage phone and everything, so I get to.
[25:05] Speaker 4: Be really creative with that and I just absolutely love
[25:08] Speaker 4: that element of it because I am a very creative
[25:11] Speaker 4: person at Hearts, So that's like my main role there
[25:15] Speaker 4: is creating content creating like maybe like strategies as well.
[25:19] Speaker 4: So like marketing strategies or I also like I think
[25:22] Speaker 4: I like to like really I wear many hats, yep,
[25:25] Speaker 4: I wear many hats because I even help like with
[25:28] Speaker 4: design feedback, and I love that too, So I'm very
[25:31] Speaker 4: much involved.
[25:31] Speaker 2: It's a very like tight knit team.
[25:33] Speaker 1: And I guess you talked about you come from a
[25:35] Speaker 1: content creation background, being in that sort of industry yourself
[25:39] Speaker 1: and doing that for your own personal brand. How does
[25:41] Speaker 1: that sort of affect how you create content for a
[25:44] Speaker 1: brand like Degel, for example.
[25:47] Speaker 4: I think what I love is I don't feel like
[25:50] Speaker 4: they let me just be myself as well, and so
[25:52] Speaker 4: we're like we've created a few funny tiktoks, and I
[25:55] Speaker 4: think it's really like, I think it's fun that they
[25:57] Speaker 4: let me just be my own personality in that space
[26:00] Speaker 4: as well. And a lot of my content is very similar,
[26:03] Speaker 4: like in terms of like how I create content is
[26:06] Speaker 4: very similar for the brand and for my own personal
[26:08] Speaker 4: brand too in terms of like, you know, how we
[26:11] Speaker 4: do like the close up shots and all these like
[26:13] Speaker 4: beautiful like visuals in sort of the videos and things.
[26:17] Speaker 4: So I think it's very like, very much similar.
[26:21] Speaker 1: Being someone who works in content creation and fashion, you're
[26:24] Speaker 1: sort of in the space where you're always seeing kind
[26:26] Speaker 1: of what brands are doing. What are the brands that
[26:29] Speaker 1: you think are doing really well when it comes to
[26:32] Speaker 1: size inclusivity, whether that's to do with represent representation and
[26:35] Speaker 1: campaigns or talking about stocking white range of sizes. What
[26:39] Speaker 1: are the brands that you think are like really at
[26:41] Speaker 1: the forefront and doing it well.
[26:42] Speaker 2: I think at the moment, I see a lot the
[26:45] Speaker 2: Lalla Bi Club.
[26:46] Speaker 3: I love the very Yeah.
[26:48] Speaker 4: I think they always sort of using diverse models. I
[26:51] Speaker 4: see that Fate the label as well. I think you
[26:54] Speaker 4: always see sort of that diversity in their in their
[26:57] Speaker 4: campaigns or in their modeling too. And I just recently
[27:00] Speaker 4: saw Booty do a big campaign and I thought it
[27:03] Speaker 4: was beautiful and I love the diversity there as well.
[27:06] Speaker 4: So that's like from brands that I sort of had
[27:08] Speaker 4: my eyes on because you know, I follow them because
[27:11] Speaker 4: they stock my size. But that's something that's always coming
[27:14] Speaker 4: up on my feet and it brings me a lot
[27:16] Speaker 4: of joy when I see that.
[27:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, And obviously there's been a lot of change in
[27:20] Speaker 1: the industry over the years, whether that be fast enough
[27:23] Speaker 1: or not, there's been progress, at least over the last
[27:26] Speaker 1: several years. What do you think, though, is the biggest
[27:29] Speaker 1: misconception when it comes to fashion currently.
[27:33] Speaker 4: There's this misconception that all women don't want to participate
[27:35] Speaker 4: in a trend or don't want to sort of wear
[27:37] Speaker 4: what someone else who you know is a size ten
[27:41] Speaker 4: might be wearing.
[27:41] Speaker 2: Like for me, I'm like, I want a sequence skirt,
[27:44] Speaker 2: Like I don't mind showing a bit of my legs.
[27:46] Speaker 3: Like.
[27:46] Speaker 4: I think that's probably like the biggest misconception, and I
[27:49] Speaker 4: think like that's not only just in the fashion industry.
[27:51] Speaker 4: I think like even individuals have a long way to
[27:54] Speaker 4: go in their own confidence because for so many years
[27:57] Speaker 4: they haven't I guess, had that representation and so they
[28:00] Speaker 4: might be a little bit scared to participate in those
[28:04] Speaker 4: trends or dress a certain way because of maybe how
[28:08] Speaker 4: they think that it's going to be perceived or yeah,
[28:10] Speaker 4: things like that. So I think that's probably like the biggest,
[28:14] Speaker 4: the biggest one.
[28:15] Speaker 2: And I think, yeah, it still has a lot of
[28:17] Speaker 2: There has been a lot of progress, as we said,
[28:19] Speaker 2: but I think they has to do a lot to do. Yeah,
[28:22] Speaker 2: So I.
[28:22] Speaker 4: Think visibility and having more sort of like bodies in
[28:27] Speaker 4: campaigns and things like that is just going to help
[28:29] Speaker 4: people to sort of really own their personal style as
[28:33] Speaker 4: well then feel that they can sort of like not
[28:36] Speaker 4: have to be in one box.
[28:37] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[28:37] Speaker 1: I mean that's the importance of representation is sometimes you
[28:39] Speaker 1: have to see it to know something as possible. Yeah.
[28:41] Speaker 1: I think when you grow up not seeing any representation
[28:44] Speaker 1: with yourself in the media and campaigns and fashion, it's.
[28:47] Speaker 3: Not something you even know you can try, you know. Yeah.
[28:50] Speaker 1: So what are some of the changes that you would
[28:53] Speaker 1: personally like to see moving forward in the fashion industry.
[28:56] Speaker 1: Obviously we've talked about there being progress and that the
[28:58] Speaker 1: fact that there's more to be done. What's one thing
[29:01] Speaker 1: that you just would really like to see change.
[29:03] Speaker 2: I think just general accessibility.
[29:06] Speaker 4: I think you know that there is even the element
[29:08] Speaker 4: of maybe a price point not being accessible. So maybe
[29:12] Speaker 4: there has to be more brands that do sort of
[29:14] Speaker 4: offer I guess an accessible price point, Like I know
[29:18] Speaker 4: you do have your brands like your Target and things
[29:20] Speaker 4: like that, so I think it'd be really important for
[29:23] Speaker 4: those sorts of brands to sort of look into, I guess,
[29:28] Speaker 4: being a little bit more explorative with their styles.
[29:31] Speaker 2: I think Target do it really well.
[29:33] Speaker 4: I think Target's one of my favorite sort of like
[29:35] Speaker 4: more budget brands, but I think there's definitely space to
[29:38] Speaker 4: sort of include be more inclusive, not only in size,
[29:41] Speaker 4: which I know we've talked about a bit, but also
[29:43] Speaker 4: just in sort of accessibility in all aspects, so and
[29:46] Speaker 4: even just mindful in sort of designs as well and
[29:50] Speaker 4: wear ability and things like that. There's a few different
[29:53] Speaker 4: sort of things that I think sort of need that improvement.
[29:55] Speaker 2: Yeah, there as well.
[29:57] Speaker 1: And like being able to access trends at all different
[29:59] Speaker 1: price points. I think that's important for sure. It's very expensive,
[30:15] Speaker 1: how hundred of these twenty five percent before we finish off.
[30:19] Speaker 1: Something we do every time on the Pod is bougie
[30:22] Speaker 1: and budget yep.
[30:23] Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna be honest, I'm in my budget era.
[30:27] Speaker 1: Okay, love that for you.
[30:29] Speaker 4: Literally, Like I do have bougie things that are on
[30:32] Speaker 4: like my wish list, but I think there's nothing personally
[30:34] Speaker 4: that I have purchased for myself that is on like
[30:37] Speaker 4: a real bougie price tag. Okay, but if if, if,
[30:40] Speaker 4: if I could and just tomorrow, like no question, yep.
[30:43] Speaker 4: There's this pair of mesh mules from a brand I'm
[30:48] Speaker 4: probably gonna butchers.
[30:50] Speaker 2: A liar yep.
[30:51] Speaker 3: Yeah, yepay them.
[30:53] Speaker 2: Love them.
[30:54] Speaker 4: It's like a choppy burgundy sort of color. Yeah, I
[30:57] Speaker 4: love them and love that. I saw a photo of them.
[30:59] Speaker 4: I have been dreaming of them, so that would probably
[31:01] Speaker 4: be my bougie pick.
[31:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, A liar's got incredible shoes. Yeah, nothing I can afford.
[31:06] Speaker 1: We can dream from a fine.
[31:08] Speaker 4: I'm with you, but I'm like, they're beautiful. But there's
[31:10] Speaker 4: definitely I've seen Jupes. I've seen Jupes like so it's
[31:13] Speaker 4: definitely something that yep is definitely budget friendly if you sort.
[31:17] Speaker 3: Of want to go there, but you can find jubes.
[31:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, love that.
[31:20] Speaker 1: Okay, I'll do my bougie and then we can move
[31:22] Speaker 1: on to budget. So my boujie not actually that bougie,
[31:25] Speaker 1: but Dish has this chocolate silk skirt, so like silk,
[31:30] Speaker 1: I think perfect for summer. We talked about natural fibers
[31:33] Speaker 1: and how breathable they are. This one's around two hundred
[31:35] Speaker 1: and twenty nine dollars, really beautiful, really wearable. I'm a
[31:39] Speaker 1: real chocolate brown kind of girl, and we talked a
[31:41] Speaker 1: little bit about how that's still really trending this summer.
[31:44] Speaker 1: So that's one that I will be buying and adding
[31:46] Speaker 1: to my wardrobe, and a silk skirt is just so versatile,
[31:49] Speaker 1: even not during summer winter, for really any sort of season.
[31:53] Speaker 3: It's something that goes with everything.
[31:54] Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, Like in come winter, you'll see me
[31:57] Speaker 4: wearing my silk or satin skirts with blazers, yes, yes.
[32:00] Speaker 3: Even jumpers over top.
[32:01] Speaker 2: Yes.
[32:02] Speaker 3: So versatile.
[32:03] Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, do you want to do your budget?
[32:06] Speaker 4: Yeah? My budget at the moment. One of my favorite
[32:11] Speaker 4: shoe brands is Therapy Shoes, So I find that they
[32:15] Speaker 4: sort of dip in those trends. So if you are
[32:17] Speaker 4: liking those sort of kitten heels, bomb sandals, things like that,
[32:20] Speaker 4: they are nailing it with the colors and everything at
[32:22] Speaker 4: the moment. So if you're sort of again looking for
[32:25] Speaker 4: that budget friendly footwear brand, I think Therapy is fantastic.
[32:29] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[32:29] Speaker 1: I love that. Own so many pairs of Therapy shoes,
[32:31] Speaker 1: really affordable and really hold up well. Yes, I've got
[32:33] Speaker 1: pairs that I've had for years.
[32:35] Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that brand.
[32:37] Speaker 1: Okay, my budget we talked about Lalla by Club Mine
[32:40] Speaker 1: is a sun hat forty nine ninety five. It's kind
[32:43] Speaker 1: of a Gingham print hat. It's got these two little
[32:46] Speaker 1: I don't know what you call these ribbons.
[32:48] Speaker 3: On the side.
[32:49] Speaker 1: I think a hat is such a summer staple and
[32:51] Speaker 1: it's so underrated because it's something you need every weekend
[32:54] Speaker 1: you go out pop it on, one for sun protection,
[32:56] Speaker 1: but two just for like fashion. I think it's a
[32:58] Speaker 1: fun way to add a little interest, little pop of color. Yeah,
[33:02] Speaker 1: and it feels like a fashion galie item you can
[33:04] Speaker 1: throw on. So yeah, that's mine. I feel like that's one.
[33:07] Speaker 1: It's not too expensive that you can pick up that.
[33:09] Speaker 3: I feel like you would. Yeah, kind of all through
[33:11] Speaker 3: the summer.
[33:11] Speaker 2: Yeah, gorgeous.
[33:12] Speaker 4: I love that I have a few of those sort
[33:14] Speaker 4: of straw hats things like that, Like I can't go
[33:17] Speaker 4: to the beach without it, Like I do not want
[33:19] Speaker 4: sunburn on my scalp. No, thank you, Yeah, guys, literally, Lily,
[33:23] Speaker 4: And it's hard. Like I know there are SPF brands
[33:26] Speaker 4: out there that you can spray your scalp, but your
[33:28] Speaker 4: hat is your shore way.
[33:29] Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, And I love that, Like larger brim
[33:32] Speaker 1: hats are now really trendy and in again, so.
[33:36] Speaker 2: Oh I love that.
[33:37] Speaker 3: Okay, thank you.
[33:38] Speaker 1: So much, Thanks so much for having This was so
[33:41] Speaker 1: much fun and we've really enjoyed getting all of your
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[34:03] Speaker 1: Acknowledges the traditional owners of the land. We've recorded this
[34:06] Speaker 1: podcast on the Gadigol people of the Urination. We pay
[34:10] Speaker 1: our respects to their elders past and present, and extend
[34:12] Speaker 1: that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestrate islander cultures.

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