# How To Nail The Ultimate Jewellery Stack With Nat Jacobson

An episode of [Nothing To Wear](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1589394895), 27 May 2025, 24 min.

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This week, stylist Nat Jacobson joins Leigh to debunk the myth that jewellery is just for special occasions, because really what are you saving it for? Nat loves to wear her carefully curated collection 24/7 no matter the occasion – and yes, even in the shower For beginners, Nat recommends starting with necklaces that break up high-neck tops, focusing on building a "jewellery capsule wardrobe" where everything works together. Her golden rule? Don't buy pieces that force you to start a whole new collection. For affordable jewellery ideas, check out LEIGH CAMPBELL: 'The stackable jewellery pieces I recommend to everyone.' LINKS TO EVERYTHING MENTIONED: Nat's Bougie: Three Stories Jewelry Love Always Rainbow Sapphire & Diamond Band Ring $1680 Nat's Budget: Carly Paiker Leigh's Bougie: Constantina Vintage Leigh's Budget: Lovisa Waterproof Gold Plated Stainless Steel Paloma Chain $54.99 OTHER BRANDS MENTIONED: Sarah & Sebastian Arms of Eve By Charlotte GET YOUR FASHION FIX: Watch us on Youtube Follow us on Instagram Want to shop the pod? Sign up to the Nothing To Wear Newsletter to see all the products mentioned plus more, delivered straight to your inbox after every episode. Feedback? We’re listening! Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au CREDITS: Host: Leigh Campbell Guest: Nat Jacobson Producer: Mollie Harwood Audio Producer: Lu Hill Video Producer: Marlena Cacciotti Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:10] Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the
[0:15] Speaker 1: traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is
[0:18] Speaker 1: recorded on. Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously.
[0:23] Speaker 2: Disturb laurels for spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have
[0:27] Speaker 2: to do it. You live for fashion.
[0:31] Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that
[0:34] Speaker 1: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell,
[0:38] Speaker 1: and every week I chat to an expert who helps
[0:40] Speaker 1: us work out how to get more out of the
[0:41] Speaker 1: clothes and accessories we already own and tells us exactly
[0:45] Speaker 1: what is and isn't worth adding to our wardrobes. So
[0:49] Speaker 1: today we're joined by someone who proves that great style
[0:52] Speaker 1: isn't just about what you wear, it's how you wear it.
[0:56] Speaker 1: Nat Jacobson is a personal shopper, stylist, content creator, and
[1:00] Speaker 1: she's an a mission to help women feel pulled together, confident,
[1:03] Speaker 1: and totally themselves. They might be getting on a plane
[1:06] Speaker 1: to Paris, or they might be picking up some vegemite
[1:08] Speaker 1: scrolls after drop. So Nat has a background in fashion
[1:12] Speaker 1: and an eye for detail that is honestly so incredible
[1:15] Speaker 1: it makes outfitsing. NAT's Instagram is part mood board, part masterclass,
[1:21] Speaker 1: from chic layering inspo to the most perfect stacks of
[1:24] Speaker 1: jewelry you've ever seen. So today you see to help
[1:27] Speaker 1: us with just that jewelry, how to wear more than
[1:30] Speaker 1: just one piece, how to stack what colors gold, silver, rose, gold,
[1:35] Speaker 1: and the fact that this is the way you can
[1:37] Speaker 1: get personal style and there's no rules. So whether you're
[1:40] Speaker 1: looking to level up your accessory game or want to
[1:42] Speaker 1: get started with wearing jewelry, Nat is our person for
[1:46] Speaker 1: the job. Welcome Nat to the show. I'm very excited
[1:49] Speaker 1: to have you here. We're going to chat about jewelry
[1:52] Speaker 1: and how to effortlessly layer and look like you haven't
[1:54] Speaker 1: put any effort in. But first all new guests have
[1:58] Speaker 1: to answer to your questions. The first one is can
[2:00] Speaker 1: you describe your own style in three words?
[2:03] Speaker 2: Ah? I would say my style is che it's playful,
[2:08] Speaker 2: and it's unique.
[2:09] Speaker 1: I so agree playful. I love that Cardian Not that
[2:12] Speaker 1: we're here to talk about the actual clothes. Where is
[2:14] Speaker 1: that from?
[2:14] Speaker 2: This is from Kitty van Kon song.
[2:16] Speaker 1: Oh It's delicious. It's so clever, colorful, beautiful, fun I
[2:21] Speaker 1: love it. Now there's a theory that rings pretty true
[2:23] Speaker 1: with most people. That we have a wardrobe full of clothes.
[2:26] Speaker 1: Might not be huge, might be big or small, but
[2:28] Speaker 1: there's a ten percent of that wardrobe that we just
[2:30] Speaker 1: reach for over and over. We like the other stuff,
[2:33] Speaker 1: but it's just those essentials that we love throw on
[2:36] Speaker 1: all the time. What's in your ten percent?
[2:38] Speaker 2: A white T shirt and a white singler That's like
[2:41] Speaker 2: what I grab all the time.
[2:43] Speaker 1: And is that because it's a good base to then
[2:44] Speaker 1: a layer the rest hundred one?
[2:46] Speaker 2: Where's your favorites from Henny? Yeah, Henny's amazing, Yeah, basic, Yep,
[2:53] Speaker 2: they also do great one. I agreed, Jack and Jack.
[2:56] Speaker 1: I haven't thought of them. I'm obsessed with the Uniglo
[2:59] Speaker 1: men's white teeth. Yeah, but now I've got some water. Trye.
[3:02] Speaker 1: You're here to talk about jewelry and hell past kind
[3:06] Speaker 1: of work out how to do it and even sometimes
[3:10] Speaker 1: were to start because I know for me, you know,
[3:12] Speaker 1: I do love jewelry, but I'm rushing around. I've got
[3:14] Speaker 1: to get to the office. I've got a five year
[3:15] Speaker 1: old and my bedroom's upstairs. I think, oh, I haven't
[3:17] Speaker 1: put anything on, But when I run up and put
[3:19] Speaker 1: a few pieces on, I always feel like my outfit
[3:22] Speaker 1: looks more thought through. So let's talk about it. When
[3:26] Speaker 1: you're styling jewelry, what's the first thing you consider before
[3:28] Speaker 1: you start layering pieces?
[3:31] Speaker 2: Listen, I mean, I wear all my jewelry every day.
[3:35] Speaker 2: I sleep in my jewelry. So once I've built my stack,
[3:39] Speaker 2: it's on the only thing that I change are my
[3:42] Speaker 2: rings and sometimes my ear rings.
[3:45] Speaker 1: I am looking at you. It's funny because I'm like
[3:47] Speaker 1: looking at all your gorgeous pieces.
[3:48] Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so bracelet's stay on necklaces.
[3:52] Speaker 1: Staying and everything.
[3:56] Speaker 2: So my rings are really what I change based on
[3:59] Speaker 2: what I'm wearing.
[4:00] Speaker 1: Why. Yeah, So it's kind of a set and forget,
[4:02] Speaker 1: which is very cool, exactly, and then you might tweak
[4:05] Speaker 1: and remove one or two things depending on.
[4:07] Speaker 2: One hundred percent. That's what I do.
[4:09] Speaker 1: It's not that much effort.
[4:10] Speaker 2: It's not that much effort. The only time i may
[4:13] Speaker 2: mix it up a little bit more is when I'm
[4:14] Speaker 2: on holidays.
[4:15] Speaker 1: Yes, I know, that's funny. I have a few little
[4:17] Speaker 1: holiday jewelry wardrobe pieces.
[4:19] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[4:20] Speaker 1: Fun I want to actually ask you where did this
[4:23] Speaker 1: love of jewelry and layering and trinkets come from?
[4:27] Speaker 2: So, okay, this is. It's not embarrassing, but it is
[4:30] Speaker 2: what it is. So I don't know. If you watch
[4:32] Speaker 2: the Rachel Zoe projects, of course, oh my god, that's
[4:35] Speaker 2: when my love for jewelry started. Like I watched that
[4:39] Speaker 2: show religiously and I was constantly looking at her hands
[4:42] Speaker 2: and her jewelry. And that's when it started for me.
[4:46] Speaker 1: And that was quite a while ago when there wasn't
[4:48] Speaker 1: as much that choice.
[4:49] Speaker 2: No, but that's when it all started for me. I
[4:52] Speaker 2: think my first couple of pieces were like Anita co,
[4:56] Speaker 2: I don't even know what that another is still around,
[4:58] Speaker 2: She's still around.
[4:58] Speaker 1: How can you find out about all these brands?
[5:00] Speaker 2: I'm in the world. I'm in the world of it.
[5:03] Speaker 1: Your algorithm must just be jewelry, jewelry.
[5:05] Speaker 2: It is. It's jewelry, it's clothes, it's everything. Yeah, but
[5:08] Speaker 2: I love it Meto the best. Yeah, it's a sickness.
[5:14] Speaker 1: Now we have a lot of listeners asked this question.
[5:18] Speaker 1: People say, I don't know if I'm a gold person.
[5:20] Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm a silver person, or I
[5:22] Speaker 1: am gold or I am silver, and then they get confused.
[5:26] Speaker 1: So talk to me about mixing the different kind of
[5:29] Speaker 1: metals and how we can do that, and is that allowed?
[5:32] Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it is allowed for sure. I mean
[5:35] Speaker 2: I'm wearing a white gold necklace and then I've got
[5:39] Speaker 2: a bit of yellow gold up here. Yes, so I
[5:42] Speaker 2: definitely think you can mix, and yeah, it does work.
[5:46] Speaker 2: I'm more of a yellow gold person. I've got a
[5:48] Speaker 2: little bit of rose gold, so I'm mixing at all.
[5:51] Speaker 1: If someone's starting out, you know, they've got a few pieces,
[5:54] Speaker 1: but they really want to get into the accessory game.
[5:56] Speaker 1: Do you think they kind of choose their gold? And
[5:59] Speaker 1: when I say gold, we're not talking fine jewelry. It
[6:01] Speaker 1: doesn't have to be you know, eighteen carrot gold. We're
[6:03] Speaker 1: just being the color, right. Do you think that they
[6:05] Speaker 1: start building their collection around one sort of color and
[6:10] Speaker 1: go from there.
[6:10] Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I definitely think to stick to one color.
[6:14] Speaker 1: Yeah, because combining it all is easier if you're a beginner.
[6:19] Speaker 2: Look, I just think that you need to know what
[6:21] Speaker 2: color gold suits your skin, and there's definitely something in that.
[6:26] Speaker 2: Rose gold is just softer on some skin timer.
[6:29] Speaker 1: Rose old girl. But I do I mix them, but
[6:31] Speaker 1: I'm mostly rose.
[6:32] Speaker 2: Yeah. I used to be too, and then I moved
[6:35] Speaker 2: over to yellow gold.
[6:36] Speaker 1: It's hard to find rose gold. There's not a lot
[6:38] Speaker 1: of pieces and particular costume jewelry as well.
[6:41] Speaker 2: I agree.
[6:41] Speaker 1: I feel like gold and rose gold together. I don't
[6:45] Speaker 1: find that effect metal, but it's good to have a
[6:47] Speaker 1: bit of both.
[6:48] Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree.
[6:50] Speaker 1: How do people work out which one suits them? Just
[6:52] Speaker 1: what they are drawn to?
[6:54] Speaker 2: It's what feels right in your gut. Yeah, And I
[6:56] Speaker 2: really think it's important for women to lean into that
[6:59] Speaker 2: and trust their instinct and if that's what you're drawn to,
[7:03] Speaker 2: go with it.
[7:04] Speaker 1: I'm so glad you say that, because I know getting
[7:06] Speaker 1: your colors done is a big thing. And I had
[7:08] Speaker 1: mine done and the woman was amazed. But then the
[7:10] Speaker 1: month after that, I was like, oh, I can't wear
[7:11] Speaker 1: that off. But I was like, I think I look good.
[7:14] Speaker 1: I feel good. It brings me joy. If it's technically
[7:17] Speaker 1: not my color, who cares? And same with jewelry R.
[7:20] Speaker 2: One hundred percent, yes, one hundred percent.
[7:23] Speaker 1: Yes, we don't all have a million dollars. Fine jewelry
[7:25] Speaker 1: is expensive, so we kind of call that, you know,
[7:27] Speaker 1: fancy proper diamonds and gold fine jewelry. But then there's
[7:31] Speaker 1: kind of more. I guess costume jewelry is not really
[7:34] Speaker 1: the right word because I just think of like cheap
[7:36] Speaker 1: kids stuff, but you know, just fashion jewelry that's more affordable,
[7:40] Speaker 1: particularly if we're looking to layer. So do you have
[7:44] Speaker 1: some go to brands that you like or recommend to
[7:47] Speaker 1: clients or you've just seen doing well?
[7:50] Speaker 2: A brand that I love constantly and wear and mix
[7:53] Speaker 2: in with what I've got is Karlie Paker.
[7:56] Speaker 1: Oh, never heard of that.
[7:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, she's very beachy, and that's right up my alley.
[8:01] Speaker 2: So she's got everything.
[8:02] Speaker 1: So a bit bohemian, Yeah, yeah, a little bit.
[8:06] Speaker 2: She's also like so she's got the gold pieces and
[8:09] Speaker 2: then she's got a little beaded pieces. It's just very
[8:12] Speaker 2: summary and beachy and I love, love love her brand.
[8:16] Speaker 2: Then I also love by Charlotte. Yes, they also have
[8:20] Speaker 2: some nice pieces. A little bit up from that is
[8:23] Speaker 2: Sarah and Sebastian obviously they're a nice brand. And Arms
[8:27] Speaker 2: of Eve also amazing amazing pieces. Yeah yeah, and one
[8:33] Speaker 2: of those are Aussie. Yeah love that yeah.
[8:35] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[8:35] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[8:44] Speaker 1: We want to start experimenting layering. Where do we start?
[8:49] Speaker 1: You know, I'm kind of a wrist girl, You're and
[8:52] Speaker 1: everything jewelry. Is there an area do you think that
[8:55] Speaker 1: you should start building your collection or should you you know,
[8:58] Speaker 1: focus on the race, focus on the fingers, focus on
[9:00] Speaker 1: the neck. I mean it's individual. But do you think
[9:03] Speaker 1: necklaces maybe.
[9:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I love necklaces, and I think wearing necklaces,
[9:08] Speaker 2: like if you're wearing a high neck top, breaks up
[9:10] Speaker 2: and it just shows something on the neck. And I
[9:13] Speaker 2: think whenever I'm styling somebody, I'm like, you just need
[9:15] Speaker 2: a little necklace just to like break up what's going
[9:18] Speaker 2: on there. I love and I always tell people you
[9:21] Speaker 2: always need to have like a V necktop, Yes, show
[9:24] Speaker 2: some skin, to have a little necklace just sitting there,
[9:27] Speaker 2: a little bit of sparkle, or even if it's like
[9:29] Speaker 2: a colorful beaded necklace, it's just a little something.
[9:32] Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of finishes it off the outfit. Yeah.
[9:34] Speaker 1: When you say high necktop, do you mean so that
[9:36] Speaker 1: like that then it sits over.
[9:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, so it sits over. So if you're wearing like
[9:39] Speaker 2: a round necktop, yeah, I have a necklace that just
[9:42] Speaker 2: sits on top of a white T shirt. I just
[9:44] Speaker 2: think it's.
[9:45] Speaker 1: Nice funny you say white t shirt because I've got
[9:47] Speaker 1: black high necktops. But then if I put a chain on.
[9:49] Speaker 1: I feel like I look like the rock. You know, Yes,
[9:51] Speaker 1: you wore the black total neck with the big chain.
[9:54] Speaker 2: Yes, But then I also think it's nice to hide
[9:56] Speaker 2: your necklaces. I really do. And I even like it's
[9:59] Speaker 2: kind of funny, like just to have that little bit
[10:02] Speaker 2: of chain detail coming through at the top of a top.
[10:06] Speaker 2: You know you've got it, but you don't want to
[10:07] Speaker 2: show it.
[10:08] Speaker 1: It's really subtle, it's really.
[10:10] Speaker 2: And yeah, you just let your black top do the talking.
[10:12] Speaker 2: If that's the sort of sleek look that you're going for,
[10:15] Speaker 2: you you need to always show you jewelry. I often
[10:17] Speaker 2: hide it.
[10:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, you can be wearing it, but it's not making
[10:20] Speaker 1: a huge statement. You don't take it off. It's just
[10:22] Speaker 1: like you've got your undis on top of exactly, yes, exactly,
[10:26] Speaker 1: I love it. I find that a lot of friends
[10:29] Speaker 1: of mine that you know, really love fashion, but they
[10:31] Speaker 1: might just have what I call, quote unquote a normal job.
[10:33] Speaker 1: They don't get to sit here and talk about jewelry
[10:35] Speaker 1: all day, but they kind of save their jewelry for
[10:38] Speaker 1: going out. Yes, so they're going out to dinner or
[10:41] Speaker 1: they've got a wedding, but other than that, they kind
[10:43] Speaker 1: of don't really they might have their wedding ring if
[10:45] Speaker 1: they're married, or you know, some earrings. But talk to
[10:48] Speaker 1: me about jewelry for casual outfits because I actually prefer
[10:52] Speaker 1: layering for more casual every day where just wear it.
[10:56] Speaker 1: Just wear.
[10:57] Speaker 2: I mean that's all I can say, Like what are
[10:59] Speaker 2: you saving it for? And you could be wearing a
[11:01] Speaker 2: tracksuit and have your jewels on, and it just elevates
[11:04] Speaker 2: the whole look. I don't save anything I love, like,
[11:08] Speaker 2: there's just no point.
[11:09] Speaker 1: There's no point. And I also think if you're going
[11:11] Speaker 1: somewhere fancy, you might have, you know, a beautiful suit
[11:13] Speaker 1: or dress, and oftentimes that's making the statement, and you
[11:16] Speaker 1: might want a simple.
[11:17] Speaker 2: As And that's what I was going to say to you.
[11:19] Speaker 2: When I actually go out and I do get dressed up,
[11:21] Speaker 2: that's when I pair back. That's when I take a
[11:24] Speaker 2: lot of this stuff off and I keep it super minimal.
[11:27] Speaker 1: Yes, and then you're every day at casual clothes, Like
[11:30] Speaker 1: you say, you might be in a tracksuit, I'm doing
[11:31] Speaker 1: the school run. But if i've you know, got my.
[11:33] Speaker 2: That's when I start the stack.
[11:35] Speaker 1: Yes, I love that, And you know what, that's a
[11:38] Speaker 1: lot less washing and dry cleaning. I love it. Fashion
[11:42] Speaker 1: moves in trends faster than ever before. Does jewelry too, Uh,
[11:48] Speaker 1: not for me.
[11:49] Speaker 2: I don't lean into trends for actually anything, not for fashion,
[11:52] Speaker 2: not for jewelry. Again, it is a personal taste and
[11:56] Speaker 2: you have to wear what.
[11:57] Speaker 1: Suits you, okay, But generally, like say we're just going
[12:01] Speaker 1: to the US field and you've got your Levis or
[12:03] Speaker 1: you might go into Maya or David Jones. Do trends
[12:06] Speaker 1: come and go in jewelry in terms of like, for example,
[12:08] Speaker 1: big chunky link chains and fobs are right, they come.
[12:12] Speaker 2: In and out. Yeah, I do think they coming in,
[12:14] Speaker 2: But you know, like I just think I never thought
[12:18] Speaker 2: I would wear a big chunky chain bracelet. Just never
[12:21] Speaker 2: thought that I would.
[12:22] Speaker 1: And I just want to ask about your stack because
[12:24] Speaker 1: that's phenomenal because you have got really chunky, really fine,
[12:29] Speaker 1: some colored jewels from what I can see, So you've
[12:31] Speaker 1: got a bit of everything there, and that kind of
[12:33] Speaker 1: is what makes that your personal style, because it's not
[12:37] Speaker 1: all just one thing that's in the stores right now.
[12:39] Speaker 2: That's right, that's exactly right. Links have been in forever,
[12:44] Speaker 2: but it's only now, at this time in my life
[12:46] Speaker 2: that I decided I need that to finish off my stack. Right,
[12:49] Speaker 2: that was the final piece. Oh yeah, ever.
[12:51] Speaker 1: Say never, we'll have no arm left I know. But
[12:55] Speaker 1: when you know, those big chunky chains go quote unquote
[12:57] Speaker 1: out of fashion, you're not taking it off?
[12:59] Speaker 2: No? Yeah, I like that, Yeah, definitely not. No, they
[13:02] Speaker 2: all mean something to me too.
[13:04] Speaker 1: Now, so can be sentimental, right, and it doesn't have
[13:07] Speaker 1: to be you know, a five thousand ring that is sentimental.
[13:11] Speaker 1: It can be a more affordable piece than you still
[13:13] Speaker 1: love and look after and it kind of it's a
[13:15] Speaker 1: little memory. Yeah, talk to me about proportions, because you've
[13:18] Speaker 1: got a bit of everything sort of like chunky and
[13:20] Speaker 1: thin and da da da da. But if you know
[13:23] Speaker 1: someone that's not as advanced in layering as you, how
[13:27] Speaker 1: do we get our proportions right?
[13:28] Speaker 2: I think it's important to consider textures layering.
[13:33] Speaker 1: Do we want different textures?
[13:34] Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, definitely. You don't want to have the same
[13:38] Speaker 2: textured necklace. I mean you can, yes, in a different.
[13:42] Speaker 1: Layer, but to add an interesting vibe.
[13:44] Speaker 2: Yeah. So, like this is like a beaded chain, and
[13:46] Speaker 2: sometimes I wear a beaded ball chain. Yes, slightly longer,
[13:51] Speaker 2: but I wouldn't wear it too.
[13:52] Speaker 1: Close, Yes, a bit too matchy matching, yeah.
[13:54] Speaker 2: Too much, Emaci, So definitely lengths. Play with different lengths, yes,
[13:59] Speaker 2: play with different textures.
[14:00] Speaker 1: I'm only I mean, I know what a long and
[14:02] Speaker 1: a short necklace is. My husband very kindly brought me
[14:04] Speaker 1: a necklace for my ten year winning anniversary, and they
[14:08] Speaker 1: were like, what length do you want? I don't know.
[14:10] Speaker 2: Short.
[14:10] Speaker 1: They're like, well, short's different to other people. So I
[14:12] Speaker 1: think it can be handy to even just get out
[14:14] Speaker 1: your favorite necklace and measure it.
[14:15] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[14:15] Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, forty five centimeters.
[14:17] Speaker 2: I do that all the time.
[14:18] Speaker 1: Well, I've never done this before. And then I finally
[14:20] Speaker 1: tried someone and I was like, actually, I want it
[14:21] Speaker 1: to be quite sure. I want forty two, whereas I
[14:24] Speaker 1: would have shopped online and gone, I'll sixty, I don't
[14:26] Speaker 1: know whatever, and that sixty is quite long.
[14:28] Speaker 2: When putting together a stack, I put so much thought
[14:31] Speaker 2: into it, do you, yes? Okay, so much thought? So much?
[14:34] Speaker 1: Do you lay it out first or you just start
[14:36] Speaker 1: putting them on?
[14:37] Speaker 2: I start putting them on, and I also I think
[14:39] Speaker 2: about what does it need next? What's the next layer?
[14:42] Speaker 2: Does it need color? Like for example, this bracelet bracelets
[14:46] Speaker 2: if you got on but this ruby bracelet I wasn't
[14:50] Speaker 2: going to get originally in rubies. I was going to
[14:52] Speaker 2: get it more with diamonds, And I thought to myself,
[14:56] Speaker 2: I don't need any more diamonds. I don't need any
[14:58] Speaker 2: more sparkle. I actually need something that grounds it together.
[15:01] Speaker 1: That's a bit contrasting in color.
[15:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not always about diamonds. It's not always about sparkle.
[15:07] Speaker 2: So that's why I went with the rubies.
[15:10] Speaker 1: So you really thought about it. I need to start
[15:13] Speaker 1: thinking about.
[15:13] Speaker 2: That, you really do. You need to think about everything
[15:16] Speaker 2: we've discussed about layering, about textures, but you also need
[15:20] Speaker 2: to think about does it work with what you already have.
[15:24] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[15:24] Speaker 2: I say that about fashion, and I say that about jewelry.
[15:28] Speaker 2: I never go and start a brand new stack, Like
[15:31] Speaker 2: I'm not going to go buy a piece that none
[15:33] Speaker 2: of my other jewelry goes with.
[15:34] Speaker 1: Yeah, Otherwise, even if it's just having a moment, or
[15:37] Speaker 1: it's a cool brand or everyone's wearing it.
[15:39] Speaker 2: No, it's a waste of money because then I'm like, now,
[15:42] Speaker 2: what what am I going to do? Now it doesn't
[15:44] Speaker 2: work with any of my other jewelry? Pieces. Now I
[15:46] Speaker 2: need to start building and building again, so everything has
[15:49] Speaker 2: to always go back with my wardrobe or with what
[15:52] Speaker 2: I have. It's like a capsule wardrobe for jewelry.
[15:54] Speaker 1: Yeah, you are wearing an incredible amount of jewelry that
[15:56] Speaker 1: you often don't take off. But I want to ask
[15:58] Speaker 1: about storage, because how do you store your jewels?
[16:01] Speaker 2: Don't ask me to that is wrong person to ask.
[16:05] Speaker 1: I love hearing that.
[16:05] Speaker 2: No, I'm not proud of the way I stack. It's
[16:10] Speaker 2: literally laid out on my bathroom.
[16:11] Speaker 1: At least it laid flat.
[16:13] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[16:13] Speaker 1: I just cleaned out my wardrobe recently and it was
[16:15] Speaker 1: semi organized. But then the fine chains, I just was like,
[16:18] Speaker 1: I found a clump of fine.
[16:19] Speaker 2: We're all in this together. I get asked this question
[16:24] Speaker 2: all the time, so everybody is the same. Ye, nobody
[16:29] Speaker 2: has a secret.
[16:31] Speaker 1: My wardrobe's mostly draws. So I've got a drawer and
[16:32] Speaker 1: I've got all those felt things, and it starts out good,
[16:35] Speaker 1: but then I'm busy and then I changed my mind
[16:37] Speaker 1: and I don't know how, but my fine chains are
[16:39] Speaker 1: just this one of those things that happens in the
[16:42] Speaker 1: ocean when everyone changes. Yes, and I don't have the
[16:45] Speaker 1: patience or the eyesight. I've given it to my husband
[16:47] Speaker 1: and every night he sits there with the needle and
[16:49] Speaker 1: kind of tries.
[16:50] Speaker 2: To, honestly, like find chains for me. I don't go
[16:53] Speaker 2: there for that exact reason.
[16:55] Speaker 1: Like the top one you're wearing is delicate, but it's
[16:57] Speaker 1: not fine fine, fine.
[16:59] Speaker 2: Yeah, I've just I can see it. Fine chains tangle.
[17:02] Speaker 1: So we talked about really fine chains and layering. If
[17:06] Speaker 1: it's super fine, like you say, just where one? But
[17:08] Speaker 1: otherwise do you find do you tangle or entangle? You don't?
[17:13] Speaker 2: Yeah? Know, nothing tangles? Wow? Okay, So it's about the
[17:15] Speaker 2: this is minimal today actually ye two five?
[17:20] Speaker 1: No, I love this. I'm inspired because I do have
[17:21] Speaker 1: so many beautiful pieces, but I just think I can't.
[17:24] Speaker 1: It's probably more about the weight and the length to
[17:26] Speaker 1: keep them from tangling. So if they're super fine or
[17:28] Speaker 1: too similar, they will.
[17:30] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all about thickness and different lengths. Okay.
[17:33] Speaker 1: And on the hand, I mean that's obviously a bit different.
[17:35] Speaker 1: I wear an Apple watch, which is just not very chic,
[17:38] Speaker 1: but I can't live without it.
[17:39] Speaker 2: You should put all that. On the other hand, all that, yeah, oh.
[17:42] Speaker 1: No, yes, I never thought I was allowed. Why Oh
[17:47] Speaker 1: my gosh, I.
[17:48] Speaker 2: Have nothing on this hand. Sometimes I'll wear my wafte.
[17:50] Speaker 1: So you have nothing on your right hand, and that's
[17:52] Speaker 1: your watch hand.
[17:53] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[17:54] Speaker 1: And then so your stacks on your less.
[17:55] Speaker 2: All on there. It's all on there.
[17:58] Speaker 1: WHOA, you just got my mind? One more question? Yes,
[18:00] Speaker 1: before we do booty and budgets. I'm a brand new client.
[18:04] Speaker 1: I'm scared of accessories and jewelry, and I say, now
[18:08] Speaker 1: help me. I'm worried about looking overstyled. I remember that quote,
[18:13] Speaker 1: I can't remember who said it, but look in the
[18:14] Speaker 1: mirror and take one thing off. I feel like you're
[18:16] Speaker 1: the opposite of that. But what do we do? How
[18:19] Speaker 1: do I get started or not be so scared?
[18:22] Speaker 2: I think, first of you've got to have a budget
[18:23] Speaker 2: in mind. Then I need to understand your lifestyle. I
[18:28] Speaker 2: need to understand you. I need to get to know
[18:31] Speaker 2: you and what type of style you want. Do you
[18:34] Speaker 2: want to stack up? I've done this like, I've actually
[18:36] Speaker 2: stucked up many clients, and I love it and I
[18:39] Speaker 2: love seeing it come to life.
[18:41] Speaker 1: And do you do that in real life? Do you
[18:42] Speaker 1: go to the shops rather than buy online? Like, because
[18:44] Speaker 1: you've got to show them to kind of Convince.
[18:46] Speaker 2: They're both so I love obviously supporting brands in Australia,
[18:50] Speaker 2: but I also support brands overseas, and there's a lot.
[18:54] Speaker 2: There's actually more overseas. Yeah, they just have more. Yeah,
[18:58] Speaker 2: I mean it's with everything. Yeah.
[19:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, so at a population down here, Yes, a lot.
[19:03] Speaker 2: Of it's online, a lot of it is in store.
[19:05] Speaker 2: And I think when you start layering up as well,
[19:08] Speaker 2: it's a journey. I don't want to lay you up
[19:10] Speaker 2: like hit you hard.
[19:12] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[19:12] Speaker 2: I think it's like, let's do the next bracelet for
[19:15] Speaker 2: a milestone, or let's do it for something special.
[19:29] Speaker 1: It's very expensive.
[19:32] Speaker 2: How old you are?
[19:32] Speaker 1: These my favorite part. So obviously we're talking about jewelry,
[19:38] Speaker 1: so bougie can be really fancy, and then budget's obviously
[19:42] Speaker 1: more affordable than that. It can be an item or
[19:43] Speaker 1: a brand. Yeah, let's start with our budget.
[19:47] Speaker 2: Budget. Carlie Peker, she's not.
[19:49] Speaker 1: The one you said that. I'm googling this right now.
[19:51] Speaker 2: So, Carlie, I'm so drawn to what she has. She's
[19:55] Speaker 2: got amazing beaded pieces.
[19:58] Speaker 1: So hang on, did you say this is your bougie
[20:00] Speaker 1: or this is budget? Okay, yeah, this is budget. You're
[20:03] Speaker 1: going to spend me so much money. I'm going to
[20:05] Speaker 1: check out her website. All right, talk to me, bougie.
[20:07] Speaker 2: I've got two on my wish lists currently.
[20:10] Speaker 1: Tell us maybe they'll come true.
[20:13] Speaker 2: So Milestone's by Ashley milestones By. She's got a beautiful
[20:18] Speaker 2: rainbow ring. And this is what I mean, like, I
[20:20] Speaker 2: love color. I love something that's cute and fun and
[20:23] Speaker 2: a bit unique and a bit unique.
[20:25] Speaker 1: Is she Australian? No, she's in La Okay, so La
[20:29] Speaker 1: has a lot of great jewelry brands.
[20:31] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. She basically just has the most insane curation
[20:36] Speaker 2: of jewels from all over.
[20:38] Speaker 1: There's one that a lady of follow in America, Monic
[20:40] Speaker 1: or something. She's in New York. Don't follow her if
[20:43] Speaker 1: you don't. She makes the most incredible, really unique diamond
[20:47] Speaker 1: pendance and rings. Yeah, and I looked at them and
[20:49] Speaker 1: then I was like, oh, four hundred thousand.
[20:51] Speaker 2: Dollars, Yeah, four hundred thousand dollars.
[20:53] Speaker 1: Well, I mean these diamonds must be like humongous. And
[20:55] Speaker 1: I was like, ohe Levisa rips that off soon. That's
[20:58] Speaker 1: so good. I love what'sie.
[21:01] Speaker 2: My other bougie would be an insane ring that I've
[21:05] Speaker 2: got my eye on from Lucy Delius. She's in the
[21:07] Speaker 2: UK doing to me. You're gonna love her. So she's
[21:11] Speaker 2: got a very sort of antique. She's on Netaporter and
[21:14] Speaker 2: she's got a very antique way of doing her jewels. Yes,
[21:18] Speaker 2: and I kind of love that.
[21:19] Speaker 1: But you know what, that's another really good point. Antique
[21:22] Speaker 1: in secondhand you can get some of my losing love
[21:26] Speaker 1: love amazing pieces. I haven't been sleeping lately and I
[21:29] Speaker 1: stumbled across an auction and I bought the most amazing
[21:33] Speaker 1: ring for a one twentieth of what it was worth
[21:36] Speaker 1: and I bit on it in the middle of the night.
[21:38] Speaker 1: I woke up the next morning I'd won it, and
[21:39] Speaker 1: I was like, what have I done? But it's incredible
[21:41] Speaker 1: and it's original, and it's circular fashion.
[21:43] Speaker 2: The crazy thing is is I actually go into antique
[21:46] Speaker 2: jewelry stores and I see pieces that brands now have copied. Yes,
[21:52] Speaker 2: it's crazy. It literally does do a full circle, isn't it.
[21:55] Speaker 2: It's insane.
[21:56] Speaker 1: Yeah, So if you are spending big money, obviously hold
[21:58] Speaker 1: on to it. It's an airloom. Yeah, all right, I'm
[22:00] Speaker 1: going to quickly do my bougie and budget. Yeah, go on,
[22:03] Speaker 1: so my budget's very budget and it's lovesa. So last
[22:07] Speaker 1: year I went overseas and I didn't want to travel with,
[22:09] Speaker 1: you know, my nice jewelry, and I wanted something that
[22:11] Speaker 1: I could swim a lot with. And I didn't know
[22:13] Speaker 1: that Lavisa did a waterproof collection. And look, if it's
[22:17] Speaker 1: fine jewelry and proper gold, it's waterproof. But also, you know,
[22:20] Speaker 1: more affordable stuff sometimes cantarnish, you know, I get that
[22:24] Speaker 1: weird green skin sometimes from the nickel. Anyway, Lavisa has
[22:27] Speaker 1: a whole waterproof range, and I love the waterproof gold
[22:30] Speaker 1: plated stainless steel Paloma chain short necklace. It's fifty five dollars.
[22:35] Speaker 1: It's like a curveling chain, like imagine that stacked. And
[22:38] Speaker 1: I honestly came back. It wasn't that one might now
[22:40] Speaker 1: want that. I came back and I didn't put on
[22:43] Speaker 1: all my other jewelry, and I wore them for months
[22:45] Speaker 1: and everyone was like, oh, where's that from? Yes, and
[22:48] Speaker 1: you know what if you're jump in the ocean and
[22:50] Speaker 1: do a Kim Kudashi in a new earring or something
[22:52] Speaker 1: for loft, worry, no, you know, that's a bit sad.
[22:55] Speaker 1: My bougie. I follow an account on Instagram called Constantina Vintage.
[23:00] Speaker 1: Do you follow her? She has the most Yes, I've
[23:04] Speaker 1: bought one necklace once. I just she's my bougie. It's
[23:07] Speaker 1: all seventies, eighties, nineties jewelry, some costume jewelry. I bought
[23:11] Speaker 1: a beautiful vintage costume chavant she necklace and she had
[23:14] Speaker 1: a big sale, so it was a couple of hundred bucks.
[23:17] Speaker 1: But there's stuff that she has. I honestly need to
[23:19] Speaker 1: unfollow her. But she's an Australian business and it's circular
[23:21] Speaker 1: economy because that applies to fashion.
[23:23] Speaker 2: Hasn't she been around for a long time?
[23:25] Speaker 1: Yes, I only discovered her a few years ago, and
[23:27] Speaker 1: now I wish I didn't. I think the joy of
[23:30] Speaker 1: realizing that jewelry, you know, can go around and because
[23:33] Speaker 1: of what it's made of, it's the best thing for
[23:36] Speaker 1: circular economy. I agree, Nat, I want to come over
[23:39] Speaker 1: and play with all your jewels. I'd love I feel like,
[23:42] Speaker 1: you know, imagine little girls.
[23:43] Speaker 2: Just yeah, I do that with my girlfriends.
[23:46] Speaker 1: Do you I do?
[23:47] Speaker 2: Thank God?
[23:48] Speaker 1: How you should do stacking parties? Like how to for hens?
[23:52] Speaker 2: Noat.
[23:52] Speaker 1: I loved chatting to you. I could chat to you
[23:54] Speaker 1: all day. I feel like you've spent a lot of
[23:55] Speaker 1: my money. Thank you for coming, thank you my pleasure,
[23:58] Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening to Nothing to Wear,
[24:00] Speaker 1: And don't forget. There's a newsletter that goes with this show.
[24:03] Speaker 1: There's a link in the show notes and it's free.
[24:05] Speaker 1: See you next week. This episode was produced by Molly Harwood,
[24:09] Speaker 1: with already production by low Hill

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