# The Number One Mistake You're Making With Your Capsule Wardrobe

An episode of [Nothing To Wear](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1589394895), 28 Apr 2026, 38 min.

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If your Pinterest board is full of beige trenches and crisp white shirts but your actual closet makes you feel "meh," this episode is for you. This week, Leigh is joined by fan-favourite Sam Preston to debunk the biggest misconceptions surrounding the infamous capsule wardrobe. Sam's reassuring us that a true capsule isn't a restrictive number, it’s a vibe. They’re getting into why you might be failing at the "classics" and how to incorporate fun trends and colours without losing your personal style. Plus, we’re getting into some of our favourite winter picks in Boujie To Budget with maxi skirts for winter and our favourite trenches of the season. Whether you're a monochrome lover or a dopamine-dressing devotee, it’s time to stop cutting and pasting from social media and start dressing for who you are today. EVERYTHING MENTIONED: Leigh’s Pick: Maxi Skirts Leigh's Budget: H&M Circular Maxi Skirt, $49.99 Leigh's Mid-range: Top Shop Check Print Full Circle Maxi Skirt, $99.95 Leigh's Boujie: Bianca Spender Black Cotton Nostalgia Skirt, $495 Sam's Pick: Trench Coats Sam's Budget: Zara Long Trench Coat With Belt, $185. Sam's Mid-range: Assembly Label Trench Coat. Sam's Boujie: Camilla And Marc, Ember Trench Coat, $800. GET YOUR FASHION FIX: Watch us on YouTube: This episode goes live at 8pm tonight! Follow us on Instagram & TikTok: @nothingtowearpod Shop the Pod: Sign up to the Nothing To Wear Newsletter to see all the products mentioned plus more, delivered straight to your inbox after every episode. Feedback? We’re listening! Email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au CREDITS: Hosts: Leigh Campbell Guest: Sam Preston Producer: Ella Maitland & Zara Sengstock Audio Producer: Scott Stronach Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris Just so you know—some of the product links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping! Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:08] Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Whoever said orange
[0:16] Speaker 1: is a new pink with seriously disturbed laurels spraying groundbreaking?
[0:21] Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have to do it. You live
[0:23] Speaker 1: for fashion. Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the
[0:28] Speaker 1: podcast that solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe.
[0:31] Speaker 1: I'm Lee Camp. Now today we have a fabulous guest returning.
[0:35] Speaker 1: Her name is Sam. You might have caught her the
[0:37] Speaker 1: first time. She was on a couple of months ago,
[0:39] Speaker 1: and she is here to talk capsual wardrobes. No, not
[0:43] Speaker 1: why you need a trench and jeans and a black
[0:45] Speaker 1: blazer and a white t shirt exactly the opposite. She's
[0:49] Speaker 1: going to tell us the mistakes she sees her clients
[0:51] Speaker 1: make when they're trying to create a captural wardrobe, and
[0:53] Speaker 1: what a true captural wardrobe actually is. Did you know
[0:57] Speaker 1: it was coined in nineteen seventy I didn't. I thought
[0:59] Speaker 1: it was an internet thing. So let's jump in with
[1:01] Speaker 1: Sam and work out how to actually work out the
[1:03] Speaker 1: basics that work for us. Sam, Welcome back to Nothing
[1:07] Speaker 1: to Wear. You were on gosh a few months ago now,
[1:09] Speaker 1: and that is one of our most downloaded, most listened
[1:12] Speaker 1: to episodes.
[1:13] Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm so happy of it.
[1:14] Speaker 1: That is so much love what you have to say.
[1:17] Speaker 2: I'm so happy to be bart, I'm so.
[1:19] Speaker 1: Happy to have you. Before we talk about what we're
[1:21] Speaker 1: gonna talk about, which is pretty like you've got some
[1:23] Speaker 1: big things to say, I need to know what you're wearing.
[1:26] Speaker 1: You look phenomenal. What is this outfit?
[1:28] Speaker 2: Thank you. I'll start with this little kind of crap
[1:30] Speaker 2: blazer that's just from palsy O beautiful. My jeans are igldy. Yeah,
[1:36] Speaker 2: so these have been in my wardrobe for all whale.
[1:39] Speaker 2: My shoes are kicked.
[1:40] Speaker 1: Oh you were fancy.
[1:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I would dress up. Yes.
[1:44] Speaker 1: And also, as we know from last time, you know,
[1:45] Speaker 1: you don't just buy things on a whim. We think
[1:47] Speaker 1: about it and then you're yeah, yeah.
[1:48] Speaker 2: I've word all this a million times.
[1:50] Speaker 1: I need your tips of keeping that those jeans clean.
[1:53] Speaker 2: Oh as soon as I get and I just tee
[1:54] Speaker 2: them off exactly.
[1:56] Speaker 1: Okay, before we jump to the topic, I don't know
[1:59] Speaker 1: what's your algorithm doing right now, what's on your feed,
[2:01] Speaker 1: what's on your for you page?
[2:03] Speaker 2: Oh my god, so in terms of my trends at
[2:05] Speaker 2: that's when it in time I am seeing. I follow
[2:08] Speaker 2: a lot of UK influenzas and publications, so in tryins,
[2:12] Speaker 2: I'm seeing a lot a lot of blue. So like
[2:15] Speaker 2: the cutwalks are coming off with like pale blue, but
[2:17] Speaker 2: I'm seeing like every version of it, and I am
[2:20] Speaker 2: trying my hardest not to buy into it because I
[2:22] Speaker 2: just know that I'm never going to wear that.
[2:24] Speaker 1: You're not a blue person.
[2:25] Speaker 2: I'm not, No, not really, I'm really monochrome. But I
[2:28] Speaker 2: am really attracted to it. So what I might do
[2:31] Speaker 2: is maybe like get my nails blue or buy buy
[2:33] Speaker 2: a blue phone case. That's how I kind of scratch
[2:36] Speaker 2: the etch of that color. Yeah.
[2:39] Speaker 1: So does that mean if you're seeing it a lot
[2:41] Speaker 1: then now is that kind of like what we'll be
[2:42] Speaker 1: wearing after winter? Do you think like you know you've
[2:45] Speaker 1: been in buying like or do we the world so immediate?
[2:47] Speaker 1: Are we going to get it in our winter?
[2:49] Speaker 2: Yeah? Well you should if the if the retailers are
[2:51] Speaker 2: on it. But yeah, but I feel like blue is
[2:53] Speaker 2: such an amazing primary color, so it will be everywhere. Yeah,
[2:57] Speaker 2: And it's all shades I'm really seeing, and it's not
[2:59] Speaker 2: just I.
[2:59] Speaker 1: Don't know if it's technically blue.
[3:01] Speaker 2: So you are seeing the pale blues, and you are
[3:02] Speaker 2: seeing the kind of like like clo Bot like Cole Bowl,
[3:06] Speaker 2: and there's other collars that I just can't put my
[3:08] Speaker 2: finger on the name, but you know, like that the
[3:11] Speaker 2: Devil Wheels, that's yes, that blue, I can't Yeah, that
[3:18] Speaker 2: Adventures enough. Navy, it is amazing. Navy is like one
[3:21] Speaker 2: of those colors that suits over with skin tone, so
[3:23] Speaker 2: go for that. So yeah, I'm seeing a lot of that,
[3:26] Speaker 2: and obviously pops of red is still I feel like
[3:28] Speaker 2: red it's primary colors really that I'm seeing. Yeah, also
[3:32] Speaker 2: seeing coming through which I don't know. I'm kind of
[3:34] Speaker 2: like on the fence with cargo trousers and pants. I'm
[3:38] Speaker 2: seeing a lot of that in the UK, and I'm like, oh,
[3:41] Speaker 2: I've never wore them before, but could I get away
[3:44] Speaker 2: with them?
[3:44] Speaker 1: Do not do them like twenty years ago?
[3:45] Speaker 2: Oh yeah I did when I was nineteen, but like, no, nurge,
[3:49] Speaker 2: you know. So I'm like, how can I? Because I
[3:51] Speaker 2: love high waisted like in terms of my proportions, so
[3:55] Speaker 2: they just wouldn't suit me.
[3:56] Speaker 1: So I could traditional kind of like casual cut as well,
[3:59] Speaker 1: because I've sort of seen some that are more I
[4:01] Speaker 1: guess suiting or tailoring with that kind of pockety situation.
[4:05] Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to do this time, do the
[4:07] Speaker 1: low waist.
[4:08] Speaker 2: And I feel like that's the thing. It's like, if
[4:10] Speaker 2: you like a trend, you can find a stale that
[4:12] Speaker 2: represents that, but then also represents you.
[4:14] Speaker 1: Oh no, I need to tuck my top into my highway.
[4:19] Speaker 2: Pennial thing as well.
[4:20] Speaker 1: It.
[4:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, what else I'm seeing a lot of AI I
[4:24] Speaker 2: think you guys mentioned that as well. I'm seeing the
[4:27] Speaker 2: whole sheer locks thing where they've got a whole page
[4:30] Speaker 2: for They've got four influencers as AI people.
[4:35] Speaker 1: I haven't seen this.
[4:36] Speaker 2: Yes, so there's four of them and they're all kind
[4:39] Speaker 2: of like a bit different. They're all beautiful. The comments
[4:42] Speaker 2: are blowing up because there's a beauty there's a beauty
[4:45] Speaker 2: one who recommends beauty products but then doesn't have doesn't
[4:48] Speaker 2: a real skin. So everything is blowing up at this
[4:53] Speaker 2: in terms of that conversation. And I'll like just pay
[4:55] Speaker 2: real people.
[4:56] Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, it's gonna have a great place in fashion,
[4:59] Speaker 1: hopefully if it can literally help me, I don't know,
[5:01] Speaker 1: maybe a hologram of my exact proportions and my and
[5:04] Speaker 1: it pops up there and she spins around like, oh,
[5:06] Speaker 1: that looks grow up. Have to try that on. Yeah,
[5:08] Speaker 1: I don't know something like that.
[5:09] Speaker 2: Yeah no, but I think those people doing that, I
[5:10] Speaker 2: think that I'll do that and you can try you
[5:13] Speaker 2: on a picture of yourself in great a portion. So
[5:15] Speaker 2: I think that's great. And even as a content quit,
[5:17] Speaker 2: I mean, I would absolutely love it if I could
[5:19] Speaker 2: just clone myself and just be like, here's all educational here,
[5:24] Speaker 2: everything in my brain.
[5:26] Speaker 1: Robot film the content.
[5:28] Speaker 2: Exactly, but it's my voice, my like you know.
[5:31] Speaker 1: But in advertising of products feels very weird.
[5:34] Speaker 2: People need that human contact.
[5:37] Speaker 1: Honestly, think it's an interesting space. Yeah, it really is interesting,
[5:41] Speaker 1: all right, So that's the future with the robots. What
[5:43] Speaker 1: else anything from the good old days?
[5:45] Speaker 2: Oh nineties, like it's absolutely everywhere. Have you seen it's
[5:49] Speaker 2: called a Love Story with Caroline.
[5:51] Speaker 1: I haven't watched it, but I need to.
[5:53] Speaker 2: It's absolutely blew up the ends on that.
[5:57] Speaker 1: I know. I mean, I know, and I know the story,
[5:58] Speaker 1: but I will watch it.
[6:00] Speaker 2: But I think people were just craving like simplacity and
[6:03] Speaker 2: nineties is all the But that's simplacity, It's so simple.
[6:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, I was on Deepop time. I'm always in the
[6:07] Speaker 1: vintage section and I'm choosing my era and it's obviously nineties,
[6:11] Speaker 1: most too recent, and I'm like, oh, no, it wasn't.
[6:14] Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like proper vintage now it's sadvantage, but yeah, people,
[6:19] Speaker 2: I feel like people are just craving that, like just simplicity.
[6:22] Speaker 2: I feel like that in terms of my followers or
[6:24] Speaker 2: just like just need some.
[6:26] Speaker 1: Ple yeah, not too fussy, not to fossy. And I
[6:29] Speaker 1: think also for younger generations, it's their first time with
[6:32] Speaker 1: that sort of total esthetic. You know, it's you know,
[6:35] Speaker 1: we've been there and done that, but it's quite frustrating.
[6:37] Speaker 2: Even for me. It's like I grew up in that.
[6:40] Speaker 2: I was a teenager in the nineties, but my like
[6:43] Speaker 2: asthetics was like all scenes and things like that. Cargos, yes,
[6:48] Speaker 2: you know, to see the canar, Calvin Klay.
[6:50] Speaker 1: Yes, the more kind of viture side that. Yeah.
[6:53] Speaker 2: So I'm actually really excited.
[6:55] Speaker 1: About that because that is just maybe we just go
[6:57] Speaker 1: back to no phones and meeting people at the movies
[6:59] Speaker 1: when we say what time we go to the movies.
[7:02] Speaker 1: So after the break, we're going to talk all things captural, wardrobe,
[7:05] Speaker 1: the biggest mistake and the huge myth around what a
[7:09] Speaker 1: captural wardrobe? We're talking capture wardrobes. I think most people
[7:28] Speaker 1: have heard the term, even if they don't know how
[7:30] Speaker 1: to get one. If they've got one, what is a
[7:32] Speaker 1: captural wardrobe?
[7:33] Speaker 2: So capture wardrobe was actually coined back in the seventies
[7:36] Speaker 2: by somebody called SUSA four. So as as a history,
[7:40] Speaker 2: there's even publications like back in the forties, so it
[7:44] Speaker 2: is long stunning, but at no so it is a
[7:49] Speaker 2: tightly edited collection of items that you will constantly wear,
[7:54] Speaker 2: that suit your lifestyle, that suit your body shape. That's
[7:58] Speaker 2: really all about what you feel comfortable.
[8:00] Speaker 1: And okay, so that's the intention. But I feel like
[8:03] Speaker 1: you go on any social media platform and there is
[8:05] Speaker 1: you know, a little jigsaw puzzle of a trench coat,
[8:09] Speaker 1: a black blazer, a white T shirt, some Jane. So
[8:11] Speaker 1: it feels quite restrictive or prescriptive. But was that the intention?
[8:15] Speaker 2: I feel like people are taking this on in terms
[8:18] Speaker 2: of the classics. What are the classics? And whip to me,
[8:21] Speaker 2: which defines a classic? Is it seen in every decade
[8:25] Speaker 2: of history? So like the trench coat, the leather biker
[8:28] Speaker 2: in the fifties, you know, the den the Levi's denim.
[8:32] Speaker 2: Like people do take that literally and they create a
[8:36] Speaker 2: capture wardrobe. But I don't think it's really about that.
[8:39] Speaker 2: You can if that's your style and that's what you love,
[8:43] Speaker 2: but I feel like it's being more intentional with your
[8:46] Speaker 2: buying and your purchases for your lifestyle and your personal style.
[8:51] Speaker 2: Fashion and getting dressed is all about expressing yourself.
[8:55] Speaker 1: So if you doesn't have to be blue jeans and
[8:57] Speaker 1: a white no.
[8:58] Speaker 2: Not at all. And I feel like that is a
[9:00] Speaker 2: real myth. It's like you have to be you have
[9:03] Speaker 2: to have thirty seven items, including.
[9:07] Speaker 1: Many days an exactly. Yeah, it's funny because I'm a
[9:10] Speaker 1: trench and I'm a gene, but I'm not a black blazer.
[9:12] Speaker 1: But when this was a big thing, I was like, well,
[9:14] Speaker 1: that's going to solve every problem. And I warn it
[9:16] Speaker 1: twice because it's.
[9:18] Speaker 2: Just you may be like, okay, so I did the
[9:21] Speaker 2: same thing. I bought an over sized blazer. That's what
[9:24] Speaker 2: it's on trend, but an oversized blazer on my petite frame, yea,
[9:28] Speaker 2: and hate just doesn't work. But then I do love
[9:31] Speaker 2: a black blazer, so I went and got an hourglass
[9:34] Speaker 2: black blazer which FETs my proportions there. So you really
[9:37] Speaker 2: have to think about what suits you your body and
[9:41] Speaker 2: then you can go from there.
[9:43] Speaker 1: Okay, well that's really good because I kind of want
[9:45] Speaker 1: to understand the misconceptions or the mistakes people are making.
[9:48] Speaker 1: For example, I've got a girlfriend in my head. I
[9:51] Speaker 1: don't know if she has a Capture wardrobe, but I'm
[9:53] Speaker 1: assuming not. She is very flouncy, floral, very feminine. I
[9:57] Speaker 1: don't think I've ever seen her in gene. So can
[9:59] Speaker 1: she have her own capsule wardrobe?
[10:01] Speaker 2: Of course she can't. So I capture wardrobe as just
[10:03] Speaker 2: about having those core pieces that you not live without
[10:08] Speaker 2: that you need to get dressed in them moments. So
[10:11] Speaker 2: she might love a floaty dress, she needs that floaty
[10:14] Speaker 2: dress in her wardrobe and whatever. Then she pays back
[10:18] Speaker 2: with that a then I'm jackets some cowboy boots or
[10:21] Speaker 2: something she can have as aos items that you constantly
[10:24] Speaker 2: reach for. What are you reaching for?
[10:26] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[10:26] Speaker 2: Every day?
[10:28] Speaker 1: So maybe without the Jane she's stubbing in a beautiful
[10:31] Speaker 1: Maxi skirt when she's not wearing her dress exactly exactly.
[10:34] Speaker 2: But it's making sure that those items are thought about
[10:37] Speaker 2: they're intentional and the long lasting because you don't want
[10:41] Speaker 2: to be constantly buying those floaty dresses all the time.
[10:44] Speaker 2: And then you have a wardrobe full of items that
[10:46] Speaker 2: you're never going to wear.
[10:47] Speaker 1: But it's your capsule, so you're only supposed to have one.
[10:50] Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's there's no rules, but if
[10:51] Speaker 1: that's your look, would you recommend or do you find that?
[10:55] Speaker 1: I guess people have maybe three pairs of jeens if
[10:58] Speaker 1: that's the thing, and three floaty skirts if that's their thing.
[11:01] Speaker 2: Yeah, so you have to think about the capsual wardrobe,
[11:04] Speaker 2: like term feels really restricted. It's not supposed to have
[11:08] Speaker 2: a number attached to it. It's not supposed to have
[11:11] Speaker 2: a style attached to it. It's not supposed to have
[11:13] Speaker 2: a color palette attached to it. It's who represents you,
[11:17] Speaker 2: yes so, And it's also a capsule collection. It's not
[11:20] Speaker 2: a capsual wardrobe in terms. That's my only fifteen items
[11:25] Speaker 2: and that's.
[11:25] Speaker 1: It, right, It's the essential foundation, it's the building.
[11:29] Speaker 2: Yeah, so you might go, Okay, I need a great
[11:32] Speaker 2: gene to make me feel confident, comfortable. She needs a
[11:38] Speaker 2: great skirt to make her feel confident, And then you
[11:41] Speaker 2: kind of layer on top of that. Okay, I've found
[11:44] Speaker 2: my capsule pace. That makes me feel amazing. It makes
[11:47] Speaker 2: me feel confident that I can get through the day.
[11:50] Speaker 2: And yeah, you can build on that. You might go
[11:52] Speaker 2: for a trend color or.
[11:53] Speaker 1: So rd because you say those are all like layouts,
[11:55] Speaker 1: and then you think, Okay, well that's all I need
[11:57] Speaker 1: for the holiday. But it's like not really, you know.
[11:59] Speaker 2: No, I mean I feel like people create that kind
[12:02] Speaker 2: of content, like the challenges, like the K three Challenge
[12:05] Speaker 2: and then the thirty six Eye for three months, and
[12:08] Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, I get that. And maybe you are
[12:11] Speaker 2: a person that just needs a capture wardrobe. Maybe you
[12:13] Speaker 2: are in the office in a corporate.
[12:14] Speaker 1: Office into fashion. You just want to look good, feel
[12:17] Speaker 1: good and not think about it.
[12:18] Speaker 2: Yeah, and you you might have that capture wardrobe. I
[12:20] Speaker 2: love fashion. I need to add those playful pieces into it.
[12:26] Speaker 2: But I can only wear those playful pieces if I've
[12:29] Speaker 2: got my foundations right. Yes, and then I start with
[12:32] Speaker 2: the basics. I start with the bass, and then I
[12:34] Speaker 2: build on it. And my bass is always my capsual
[12:37] Speaker 2: wardrobe items, the things that I'm always drawn to that
[12:41] Speaker 2: I don't have to think about.
[12:43] Speaker 1: Those foundation pieces key, just get that done at the workhorses.
[12:48] Speaker 1: They make you feel comfortable, and then you add the icing.
[12:50] Speaker 2: Yes, like a fantastic jacket, and everybody is different. Like,
[12:54] Speaker 2: you know, I do love a black blazer, but you
[12:56] Speaker 2: might like love a green blazer maybe maybe, or whatever
[13:02] Speaker 2: lightweight jacket that you think.
[13:03] Speaker 1: So it took me three black blazers to realize it's
[13:06] Speaker 1: not the blazer the whole category that is. It could
[13:09] Speaker 1: be it just doesn't black.
[13:12] Speaker 2: It could be the fact that it's something structured, you know,
[13:16] Speaker 2: So it could be that structure or something that just
[13:18] Speaker 2: makes you feel like a boss, you know, or however
[13:21] Speaker 2: you want to feel. So it might not be a
[13:23] Speaker 2: black blazer. It may be it might just.
[13:25] Speaker 1: Be a silhouette. It might be super feminine.
[13:28] Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, but black blazers. Again, it's one
[13:30] Speaker 2: of those items that we've seen decade after decade after decade.
[13:35] Speaker 2: So now it becomes a classic. So what do you
[13:37] Speaker 2: how do you define a classic?
[13:39] Speaker 1: But even if it's a classic in the industry, you
[13:41] Speaker 1: don't have to mind one of.
[13:42] Speaker 2: Its God, and I feel like that seven years doing
[13:45] Speaker 2: practicing Cupture wardrobe, I feel like that is where people
[13:49] Speaker 2: do can.
[13:50] Speaker 1: Again, everyone comes to you and say, Okay, I've got
[13:51] Speaker 1: all the things that I saw on the picts world.
[13:52] Speaker 1: Why isn't it working? Yes, okay, So we understand that
[13:55] Speaker 1: a captural wardrobe is individual for everyone. But then at
[13:58] Speaker 1: the speed of light these days, trends, micro trends, cottage
[14:01] Speaker 1: court I don't know, all these trends come and go.
[14:04] Speaker 1: Can a person nail their capture wardrobe and still buy
[14:07] Speaker 1: into trends or you know, enjoy trends.
[14:09] Speaker 2: Yes, definitely, because you've got your code pieces and then
[14:13] Speaker 2: you can mix the march. You can buy those trend pieces.
[14:16] Speaker 2: That's what I love to do. Snake French shoes with
[14:19] Speaker 2: my classic black blazer on jeans.
[14:22] Speaker 1: Perfect.
[14:23] Speaker 2: I love to add me personally. I love to buy
[14:26] Speaker 2: into the accessories. When it comes to a trend or
[14:28] Speaker 2: what I was saying earlier, the blue maybe I'll get
[14:30] Speaker 2: some blue nails or a blue phone case. But if
[14:32] Speaker 2: you love trend, then yeah. But I think it's just
[14:35] Speaker 2: been a cultural wardrobe really is about being intentional with
[14:38] Speaker 2: your apoptosis. You know, it's identifying that, yes, that is
[14:42] Speaker 2: a trend.
[14:42] Speaker 1: I'm drawn to it. I'm not just doing it because.
[14:45] Speaker 2: But while I weigh it as well, because it's like
[14:47] Speaker 2: we we're getting so many avenues of influence these days,
[14:52] Speaker 2: it's really really easy to get drawn into it, like
[14:55] Speaker 2: the blue.
[14:55] Speaker 1: And absolutely and I think also, you know the capture wardrobe.
[14:58] Speaker 1: As we spoke about the restrictive one, there's no real
[15:00] Speaker 1: personal style there. But then if you're chopping and changing
[15:02] Speaker 1: every trend, there's no real personal style there. And then
[15:05] Speaker 1: if you're you know, trying to mess them together.
[15:07] Speaker 2: Then identifying if that trend suits your personal style. So
[15:11] Speaker 2: if Cowboy books comes into style, I'm never going to
[15:14] Speaker 2: be able to get into that trend, BUTND yes she might.
[15:20] Speaker 2: So it's it's identifying what trends relate to you and
[15:23] Speaker 2: your personal style. I'm buying into them.
[15:26] Speaker 1: Importantly. I loved the last episode what you do every day?
[15:30] Speaker 1: What do you actually do on the ground and how Yeah, exactly.
[15:34] Speaker 2: Like we've got the kids and we're doing this in
[15:36] Speaker 2: my school run and whatever. But it's also I am
[15:39] Speaker 2: looking at how I want to feel that day as well.
[15:42] Speaker 2: Do I want to coming here? I was like, I
[15:43] Speaker 2: want to feel comfortable, but I want to look sharp. Yes,
[15:47] Speaker 2: you know, I've got to make sure that I'm feeling
[15:49] Speaker 2: that feeling that day. Who am I going to be
[15:52] Speaker 2: that day?
[15:52] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[15:53] Speaker 2: So tomorrow I don't have anything on tomorrow, I'm just
[15:55] Speaker 2: going to be lazy. That lazy.
[15:57] Speaker 1: What does that look like for you? Go just attracts it, Ya,
[16:01] Speaker 1: that makes me.
[16:03] Speaker 2: Even at that. I remember having my first baby and
[16:06] Speaker 2: I was like, I'm living in tracks. So it's like
[16:08] Speaker 2: this minute in time, but I'm going to make sure
[16:10] Speaker 2: it's a bloody good cutcharck. So, because if you buy cheap,
[16:14] Speaker 2: you wear cheap, you feel cheap.
[16:16] Speaker 1: And then I'm more and more frequently.
[16:19] Speaker 2: So even if it as legings that you are aware
[16:22] Speaker 2: and make sure that a nice leg in the march on.
[16:24] Speaker 1: Top and you feel good and you feel good in them.
[16:27] Speaker 2: Yeah, about how you want to feel.
[16:28] Speaker 1: It's so true. It's all about how you want to feel,
[16:31] Speaker 1: who you want to be, and how you want to feel.
[16:32] Speaker 1: We talked before about the very prescriptive methods or ways
[16:35] Speaker 1: people can achieve having a capture wardrobe. But is there
[16:38] Speaker 1: a magic number? We often see numbers thrown around what
[16:42] Speaker 1: do you find or what works or just ignore that.
[16:45] Speaker 2: There's no mention even in the dictionary of how many
[16:49] Speaker 2: items that you should have in your Capture wardrobe. You know,
[16:52] Speaker 2: at the beginning, when I started my Capture wardrobe, John there,
[16:54] Speaker 2: I tried to keep my wardrobe under fifty items.
[16:58] Speaker 1: The whole wardrobe, my whole world. Dobe wait, just your capsule.
[17:01] Speaker 2: No, this was my whole wardrobe. Everything everything.
[17:05] Speaker 1: I try to it's just clothing, just clothing, yes, so
[17:08] Speaker 1: like top and bottom cover.
[17:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I tried to keep that doesn't work
[17:12] Speaker 2: for me. I love fashion. But as I say, if
[17:14] Speaker 2: you're in a career that you only like you know,
[17:17] Speaker 2: you're a NUS and you're in uniform. Do you need
[17:20] Speaker 2: that much? You have to again, like then.
[17:23] Speaker 1: You steal it that way because you kind of stripped
[17:25] Speaker 1: everything back, worked that out and then added from there.
[17:28] Speaker 2: Yes. So I really advise my clients take a step back.
[17:32] Speaker 1: Yes, don't go buy more things.
[17:34] Speaker 2: Don't go buy more things, take a step back. Look
[17:36] Speaker 2: at your wardrobe. Try everything on. You know, look at
[17:39] Speaker 2: the last two weeks, whatever you wore, what felt amazing
[17:43] Speaker 2: and what didn't?
[17:44] Speaker 1: Yes, why aren't you reaching for that thing?
[17:46] Speaker 2: Work on that, you know what I mean. So, and
[17:49] Speaker 2: then you can identify the gaps. You can identify I
[17:51] Speaker 2: need more texture in this, I need more structure.
[17:53] Speaker 1: Or I've got a lot of tops but not bottoms,
[17:55] Speaker 1: like I'm such a bottom first scenes, and.
[17:58] Speaker 2: Then that's where you start to kind of fell in
[18:01] Speaker 2: the garp. Yes and whatever it is that you how
[18:05] Speaker 2: you want to feel, how you want to sure.
[18:07] Speaker 1: Or even just how frequently do the washing exactly right. Yeah,
[18:11] Speaker 1: So it looks simple to get a capture wardrobe. You've
[18:13] Speaker 1: just got some classic basics, but it's not that simple.
[18:16] Speaker 1: As we've said, what are the common mistakes people make
[18:18] Speaker 1: when they're trying to aim for having one.
[18:20] Speaker 2: The biggest mistakes that people make. I think it's copying
[18:25] Speaker 2: other people, is copying the traditional or whatever capsual wardrobe
[18:30] Speaker 2: they are drawn to whatever pieces they are drawn to,
[18:34] Speaker 2: or you know, it's huge on Pinterest, as we say,
[18:37] Speaker 2: it's huge on every single platform. But you go into
[18:40] Speaker 2: Pinterest and there's always something on my face that pops
[18:43] Speaker 2: up and wardrobe and you're like, oh, I want to
[18:45] Speaker 2: look like her. I want to be that person. Yes,
[18:48] Speaker 2: but you're copying someday that looks nothing like you.
[18:51] Speaker 1: That is the proportion France exactly.
[18:54] Speaker 2: You know she's somewhere You're not taking who you are,
[18:58] Speaker 2: your body shape, you know your lifestyle, your your location
[19:03] Speaker 2: into consideration, so you might take into from a certain
[19:08] Speaker 2: type of aesthetics. So it might be like that kind
[19:11] Speaker 2: of minimal or the fringe capsule wardrobe or something like that.
[19:15] Speaker 1: Got a whole captual wardrobe. That's all other topic, so
[19:19] Speaker 1: not literally cutting and pasting from social media.
[19:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, you're completely different body shape from people out there.
[19:26] Speaker 2: You know, you have a different budget. You know, it's
[19:28] Speaker 2: kind of like the cargo pants I was talking about
[19:30] Speaker 2: las like I love them, but are they going to
[19:32] Speaker 2: suit me? Because I love a high waist and you know,
[19:35] Speaker 2: am petite and it's just kind of you Yeah, it's
[19:38] Speaker 2: kind of like, Okay, I do love that aesthetics, but
[19:41] Speaker 2: then it's finding with suits shure. And I also find
[19:45] Speaker 2: that people like they go for the classics, they'll go
[19:47] Speaker 2: for the classic trench, they'll go for the classic gene.
[19:49] Speaker 2: But your basics really don't have to be bored, and
[19:52] Speaker 2: it can be it.
[19:54] Speaker 1: Can be a barrel Jane exactly.
[19:56] Speaker 2: I'm wearing it. Yeah, I'm wearing a barrel gene. You know.
[19:59] Speaker 2: So I love anything that adds a bit of structure,
[20:03] Speaker 2: that adds a different element to that design. You know,
[20:07] Speaker 2: it just elevates.
[20:08] Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be straight like because in the middle.
[20:10] Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, it doesn't have to It doesn't have to.
[20:11] Speaker 2: Be a crisp, quite shark like I hate Chris, but
[20:14] Speaker 2: it just doesn't look It doesn't look good on me,
[20:17] Speaker 2: and it's really it makes me look well, it's not
[20:19] Speaker 2: great with my skin to an eye.
[20:20] Speaker 1: I mean, I love a white shirt, but I don't
[20:22] Speaker 1: want them to be so crisp.
[20:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, so I got rid of on my white shots
[20:26] Speaker 2: at the beginning.
[20:26] Speaker 1: Once your version of it so.
[20:28] Speaker 2: Is just a cream silk shirt with a split at
[20:31] Speaker 2: the bar. That does me great, you know, But then
[20:35] Speaker 2: that person maybe really love a white shirt, so you
[20:38] Speaker 2: love that, you go for it. Yes, I love a
[20:40] Speaker 2: cream shot. Yes, with a bit of shinter a texture,
[20:43] Speaker 2: you know.
[20:44] Speaker 1: Exture the one thing I have. I don't think I've
[20:46] Speaker 1: ever seen on these capture wardrobes color. It's all very neutral.
[20:51] Speaker 1: So how do we if we love color or we're
[20:53] Speaker 1: drawn to color, but we want to simplify our wardrobe
[20:56] Speaker 1: by way of capture wardrobe? Can it be done?
[20:58] Speaker 2: Yes? Again, a great doesn't no mention that your capture
[21:02] Speaker 2: world needs to be beige. But I feel like that's
[21:04] Speaker 2: where the whole social media comes in, what makes the
[21:08] Speaker 2: boring and neutral. But I would I always do it.
[21:11] Speaker 2: If you love color, I would always suggest creating like
[21:15] Speaker 2: some kind of color parlote, yeah, so that they all
[21:18] Speaker 2: set together harmlessly, because that's what a capture wad was
[21:22] Speaker 2: about as well. It's making sure that your pieces fit together,
[21:25] Speaker 2: style together for loads of different occasions.
[21:28] Speaker 1: Not that one hot pink skirt that you love but.
[21:30] Speaker 2: You but you don't have anything to get it back with.
[21:32] Speaker 2: Or you might love that hot pink skirt and it
[21:34] Speaker 2: goes perfectly with the basic white tea. Yeah, you know,
[21:37] Speaker 2: so maybe you know, pick a color parlor of like
[21:41] Speaker 2: twelve colors and you can easily go on Pinterest and look.
[21:44] Speaker 1: At these, so you have there my navy and my.
[21:49] Speaker 2: Minds is black and white yours, you know. So so
[21:51] Speaker 2: then you love those earthy tones, you know you love those?
[21:55] Speaker 1: When I say color, I think, like, right, but they're
[21:57] Speaker 1: kind of like yeah, but yeah, whatever you like.
[22:01] Speaker 2: Are drawn to and I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, but
[22:04] Speaker 2: again it's just that right, Okay, I coming back to blazers,
[22:08] Speaker 2: but I do love a blazer, but you like.
[22:10] Speaker 1: Who We're not a blazer. I'm a bomber or.
[22:12] Speaker 2: A trend exactly perfect. But you may love our red bomber,
[22:16] Speaker 2: you know, I mean that she yours. But somebody might
[22:18] Speaker 2: love color. But I'm like, okay, you go for a
[22:20] Speaker 2: red blazer, then something that you're constantly weird in it.
[22:23] Speaker 2: You just go for that. Just make sure that your
[22:25] Speaker 2: color palette is tight, and you can't go on pants.
[22:28] Speaker 2: Put in color pala and faint a color piette that
[22:30] Speaker 2: really catches your eyes so you cannot dart.
[22:33] Speaker 1: It's not like that color doesn't go with that. You
[22:35] Speaker 1: wanted to make your life easier.
[22:36] Speaker 2: It's to meet your life easier, it really really is,
[22:40] Speaker 2: and not to be constantly over pot chasin like.
[22:43] Speaker 1: To fix it if it's not. If you're adding, having
[22:46] Speaker 1: to add and chop and change, it's not your capture yet.
[22:48] Speaker 1: You haven't got that. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, another problem
[22:51] Speaker 1: that I'm wondering if you see too or I guess
[22:53] Speaker 1: the misconception is like once you've got it, that's it
[22:55] Speaker 1: for life, but you will still need to update your
[22:57] Speaker 1: jeans or your cream shirt, right, Like it's not like
[23:01] Speaker 1: I have bought those things. Yeah, I'm yeah for life.
[23:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like a cupture Wade was always evolving
[23:08] Speaker 2: like your pieces. Like, because I'm in my Australian phase
[23:12] Speaker 2: like this whenut in time and.
[23:13] Speaker 1: I'm feeling frus heading into your first winter, Yeah.
[23:15] Speaker 2: And I am loving it and I'm loving how laid
[23:18] Speaker 2: back and relaxed as you know. And i look at
[23:20] Speaker 2: my old wardrobe UK wardrobe and I'm like, it doesn't
[23:25] Speaker 2: relate to my lifestyle now. So I'm in this phase
[23:28] Speaker 2: of my life. You might be in your new mom phase,
[23:31] Speaker 2: so your capture is completely different. It's certain times of
[23:34] Speaker 2: your life, so it evolves. Yeah.
[23:37] Speaker 1: I think if you can kind of look back or
[23:38] Speaker 1: take a bird's eye, you can still say a common
[23:40] Speaker 1: threat as to your personal style just might.
[23:42] Speaker 2: Yeah, Like my personal style is minimal, easy, comfortable. You know.
[23:45] Speaker 2: I love monochrome.
[23:47] Speaker 1: That's always always been and board shots. Yeah, definitely, you
[23:54] Speaker 1: haven't changed. You've not changed the environ.
[23:57] Speaker 2: Yes, adapt to the environment. Adapt to how I'm feeling,
[24:00] Speaker 2: you know, if I'm not If I'm i can wake
[24:02] Speaker 2: up one day and feel really bloated, or I've put
[24:05] Speaker 2: on a few pounds and you know, and I'm just
[24:07] Speaker 2: not going to wear what I was wearing a couple
[24:09] Speaker 2: of months ago. You know, so I might just go
[24:12] Speaker 2: into elastic waste trousers rather than my jeans. It's still
[24:17] Speaker 2: my aesthetic. It does definitely evolve of how you're feeling
[24:21] Speaker 2: where you are in your life. And I was really
[24:25] Speaker 2: strict at the beginning and I went for that core,
[24:28] Speaker 2: fringe vibe capsule wardrobe, and that's not me. I love fashion.
[24:31] Speaker 2: So then that's when I started like, Okay, I do
[24:34] Speaker 2: love this capsule wardrobe aesthetics, but I want to add
[24:37] Speaker 2: a bit more interest into this. And I started looking
[24:39] Speaker 2: at different structured blazers, split back shots, barrel legs, barrel
[24:46] Speaker 2: leg jeans, and I wanted the fun. It's like, I
[24:48] Speaker 2: feel like a lot of people strip it right back
[24:52] Speaker 2: and make it boring and repetitive. But once you know
[24:56] Speaker 2: those key bits that you like and you'll constantly you
[24:59] Speaker 2: then add your personality into it.
[25:01] Speaker 1: Can still be.
[25:02] Speaker 2: Yes, but don't forget your personality, like, don't forget who
[25:06] Speaker 2: you are.
[25:07] Speaker 1: Which one's gonna show up in the morning or she's
[25:08] Speaker 1: gonna want to wear?
[25:09] Speaker 2: And that's how that's how it's amazing, that's how it's
[25:11] Speaker 2: really really key to go, how do I want to
[25:13] Speaker 2: feel today? Yes?
[25:14] Speaker 1: Who is she?
[25:15] Speaker 2: Who is she today.
[25:16] Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, last one before we talk about
[25:20] Speaker 1: some fun products. What if you really love shopping, which
[25:25] Speaker 1: is not great for the environment. We know that, but
[25:26] Speaker 1: I like for me, I love thrifting. It's amazed any
[25:29] Speaker 1: capture wardrobe, so you know it's someone's passion point. They
[25:33] Speaker 1: are really into it, as opposed to you know, our
[25:34] Speaker 1: nurses or our lawyers that we've helped before. What does
[25:38] Speaker 1: she do?
[25:39] Speaker 2: That's me to be honest, what's in fashion? I walked
[25:42] Speaker 2: in fashion all my life. My husband said to me,
[25:45] Speaker 2: I would come home, I watked for talk Shop back
[25:47] Speaker 2: in the day. I was on Oxford Street with all
[25:49] Speaker 2: I would zig zag across the road into every single
[25:52] Speaker 2: store section.
[25:53] Speaker 1: It was just such a joy.
[25:54] Speaker 2: My husband said, every single day sum you would come
[25:57] Speaker 2: in with bugs. I would shop for I've got a
[26:00] Speaker 2: meeting Tomordrow, I need something new. I've got an event
[26:03] Speaker 2: at the weekend. I need something new. I was constantly,
[26:05] Speaker 2: constantly sharpen. So when I had my foster kid and
[26:10] Speaker 2: I moved from London to the country, it was a
[26:13] Speaker 2: whole mindset shift for me. It was an environment. It
[26:18] Speaker 2: was I've had kids like I used to lay my
[26:20] Speaker 2: stuff all out in the bed the night before. When
[26:23] Speaker 2: you've got a kid and your baby, that just doesn't happen.
[26:27] Speaker 2: So I really really really hard to change my mindset.
[26:31] Speaker 1: But that's not to say I still enjoy it.
[26:34] Speaker 2: You can't. Still I still love it. And I think
[26:37] Speaker 2: that's one of the mistakes that I made. I pulled
[26:39] Speaker 2: right back. I stripped everything. I went really minimal, and
[26:42] Speaker 2: I just stripped my personality. And fashion is all about fun.
[26:46] Speaker 1: Personal I get it, I'm sorry, and.
[26:48] Speaker 2: My dressing and my dressing and I'm quite allowed kind
[26:51] Speaker 2: of outgoing person so when I'm just turning up and really.
[26:54] Speaker 1: Basic, So you went too far?
[26:56] Speaker 2: I went yeah, and then and then I'm like, right, okay.
[27:00] Speaker 2: But I constantly asked myself the question do I really
[27:03] Speaker 2: need this?
[27:04] Speaker 1: Well?
[27:04] Speaker 2: I really wanted to, really really wanted Is it my ego?
[27:09] Speaker 2: This is the thing that I ask myself all the time.
[27:12] Speaker 2: Is it my ego that wants that you know? And
[27:14] Speaker 2: if nobody saw me in it, would I still buy it?
[27:17] Speaker 1: Yes?
[27:18] Speaker 2: It's all these questions that you ask yourself, Like, so
[27:21] Speaker 2: if I didn't have Instagram, would I still buy shoes?
[27:26] Speaker 1: Or people could know they can tell the label, but
[27:29] Speaker 1: if they couldn't would I not buy it?
[27:30] Speaker 2: Yes, And it's like, well I actually wear it in
[27:33] Speaker 2: my normal day to day life if it Disney, if
[27:36] Speaker 2: I cannot wear it to the school run, I'm not
[27:38] Speaker 2: saying I wear heels.
[27:38] Speaker 1: I'm completely stopped wearing heels.
[27:41] Speaker 2: But like if I see it, if I see a
[27:43] Speaker 2: Marxie Scott and I'm like, can I wheel that? Can
[27:46] Speaker 2: I wheel that to the bar? Can I wear it
[27:48] Speaker 2: too still run? Then yes, it belongs in my wardrobe.
[27:52] Speaker 1: I think for me also, I mean I do love shopping,
[27:54] Speaker 1: but I genuinely or generally love what I've bought now,
[27:58] Speaker 1: so I just got play in my wardrobe instead. Just
[27:59] Speaker 1: go play with the things you've already bought.
[28:01] Speaker 2: That's a massive cheft that I'm seeing as well. It's people,
[28:03] Speaker 2: It's it's how to style rather than buy, So how
[28:07] Speaker 2: to stale in different ways and of different things there, Yeah,
[28:12] Speaker 2: by playing with your wardrobe. And I do a lot
[28:15] Speaker 2: of that one Instagram as well. It's like how to
[28:17] Speaker 2: stale your wardrobe rather than buying to train And I
[28:20] Speaker 2: love it, and that is going to be things that
[28:22] Speaker 2: I'm going to buy. I love fashion. I'm not going
[28:23] Speaker 2: to stop myself, but I'm just more intentional, whether I
[28:26] Speaker 2: really think I don't take my phone to bed, like
[28:28] Speaker 2: I said in the last time, because that's when I
[28:30] Speaker 2: scroll and I buy. I did it the other day
[28:32] Speaker 2: there after a couple of wines.
[28:33] Speaker 1: Do you like what you bought?
[28:34] Speaker 2: No, I'm taking sending it back. Two things. One is
[28:38] Speaker 2: getting back.
[28:38] Speaker 1: You're still human. I love it.
[28:40] Speaker 2: So it's just really I like, yeah, it's just it's
[28:43] Speaker 2: just trying to be more intentional.
[28:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, turning on the thought instead of just kind of
[28:47] Speaker 1: doing it as a st It's a muscle.
[28:48] Speaker 2: You have to like really train yourself.
[28:51] Speaker 1: My real muscles first, and then I'll do that. So
[28:53] Speaker 1: coming up after the break, bougie two budget now three
[28:56] Speaker 1: items of the same category yours is in your capture wardrobe.
[28:59] Speaker 1: Trenches in my capture wardrobe. Maxi skirts, but the winter
[29:21] Speaker 1: it's very expensive.
[29:23] Speaker 2: How wonder.
[29:27] Speaker 1: Okay, So I love a Maxi skirt, but more so
[29:30] Speaker 1: for the colder months because I just feel like in summer, well, firstly,
[29:33] Speaker 1: I'm just too sweaty. I love a short, really, but
[29:36] Speaker 1: a Maxi skirt with a loafer or like a little
[29:39] Speaker 1: pointy kitten here atually and I'm just it's comfortable. Yeah,
[29:44] Speaker 1: you can just pull them up to wee because I
[29:46] Speaker 1: wear a lot and ideally pockets if I had a
[29:49] Speaker 1: dollar for every message or eBay, I'm saying, hi, lovely,
[29:53] Speaker 1: does this have pockets? You know? Oftentimes they go sooner,
[29:56] Speaker 1: some don't. So I wear them with literally a T
[29:59] Speaker 1: shirt and my bomba or my dam jacket all my
[30:01] Speaker 1: trench or a chunky knit or a thin knit. And
[30:04] Speaker 1: that's where I get the most out of my Maxi
[30:06] Speaker 1: dresses that I already have a cell because they're a
[30:08] Speaker 1: skirt for winter exactly. Oh, I just love it. Three
[30:11] Speaker 1: skirts that I love. I'm going to start with affordable.
[30:13] Speaker 1: The h nam a circular maxiskirt. It's forty nine ninety five.
[30:16] Speaker 1: It comes in a beautiful I think they call it
[30:18] Speaker 1: like a khaki color. I kind of call that like
[30:20] Speaker 1: a bony khaki and another color heaven mid range. I don't
[30:24] Speaker 1: think I'm gonna buy now that I've spoken to you,
[30:26] Speaker 1: but I mean it's obsessed, but it's not my personal style.
[30:28] Speaker 1: It's the top Shop check print full circle Maxi skirt.
[30:32] Speaker 1: That's a big word that's got its ninety nine ninety
[30:34] Speaker 1: five very It's like it's a full length circle. Skirts
[30:37] Speaker 1: are very swishy. I love swishy, but I'm not swishy
[30:41] Speaker 1: because then I trip over if I'm going yeah, yeah, yeah,
[30:44] Speaker 1: I bought one, but I don't think a check and
[30:47] Speaker 1: would just annoy you. Well, that's it, and I just
[30:50] Speaker 1: think that's too maybe two things that would restrict me
[30:53] Speaker 1: from wearing it a lot. I do love a check skirt,
[30:55] Speaker 1: but I think that and a lot of fabric.
[30:57] Speaker 2: I mean it's beautiful, like a nineties minimal Meddi or something.
[31:03] Speaker 1: Media calls no, I can't, but I just think the
[31:07] Speaker 1: it a beautiful We're seing checked skirts every where that yeah,
[31:10] Speaker 1: that's just a beautiful cut for nineteen ninety five. And
[31:13] Speaker 1: then my high end I have a version of it's
[31:15] Speaker 1: the Bianca Spender black cotton nostalgia skirt. It's four hundred
[31:19] Speaker 1: and ninety five dollars. But Bianca Spender is the most
[31:22] Speaker 1: phenomenal quality. I've got a very similar skirt to that
[31:25] Speaker 1: one that's like a again, a cart to check. Oh
[31:28] Speaker 1: my gosh. Banka Spender is like phenomenal. So Carla's and
[31:31] Speaker 1: Patty have you heard of her. She's a very famous
[31:33] Speaker 1: nostalgic Australian designer. This is her daughter and they're expensive,
[31:36] Speaker 1: but it's this most beautiful poplin cotton, but not in
[31:39] Speaker 1: a creasy way. A line pocket, but it's got the
[31:42] Speaker 1: paper bag wast it's kind of got a tie up
[31:44] Speaker 1: little belt. This one's a bit different. Pockets. Oh, the
[31:47] Speaker 1: age that one has pockets and the Bianca Spender one
[31:50] Speaker 1: both have pockets Top Shop wearsyr pockets, but I'm just
[31:53] Speaker 1: gonna wear those with you know, a tank and a
[31:55] Speaker 1: jacket or a T shirt or honestly.
[31:57] Speaker 2: There's nothing.
[31:58] Speaker 1: You're elasticated.
[31:59] Speaker 2: Oh, I know.
[32:02] Speaker 1: You can walk in Swiss and you don't. And you
[32:03] Speaker 1: don't even have to shave your legs because they're long.
[32:05] Speaker 2: I wore a Marxistkaart and Marxisko the other day there
[32:07] Speaker 2: with my loafers, and I felt really really because I
[32:10] Speaker 2: was like, oh, it's something cold, I need to put
[32:11] Speaker 2: my thong sandals away, and I'm like, but actually it
[32:15] Speaker 2: went amazingly, So maybe that's a uniform that I can
[32:19] Speaker 2: get into as.
[32:20] Speaker 1: Well, and it doesn't get that cold here. However, I
[32:22] Speaker 1: do sometimes wear if I'm wearing quite a summary dress
[32:24] Speaker 1: that I want to make wintry, I do wear like
[32:26] Speaker 1: a little thermal, like a little un goo underneath.
[32:29] Speaker 2: I love you.
[32:30] Speaker 1: One needs to talk to me about trench coats because
[32:32] Speaker 1: I too love trenches. Do you need any more because
[32:35] Speaker 1: I don't.
[32:36] Speaker 2: I don't. I've got mine salted, but I did trench
[32:39] Speaker 2: air it on Instagram the other day there and I
[32:43] Speaker 2: just searched the whole of all the Australian brands and
[32:45] Speaker 2: I've seen some absolute gorgeous ones.
[32:47] Speaker 1: Should we start with your affordable one?
[32:50] Speaker 2: The affordable ones or Zara Zara have done so. I
[32:53] Speaker 2: am loving anything that is no your traditional beige not yes, no,
[32:58] Speaker 2: I mean I love them. I've got one I will
[33:00] Speaker 2: be wearing that.
[33:01] Speaker 1: That's easy to take, but it's yeah, nic yes.
[33:03] Speaker 2: But I'm loving gray, khaki black. I've got a black one,
[33:08] Speaker 2: but if I was in the market to get one,
[33:10] Speaker 2: it would be gray or khaka and both. Like Zara
[33:14] Speaker 2: has got an amazing selection of all trained cheese. But
[33:16] Speaker 2: if they get this gorgeous belted gray one and a
[33:20] Speaker 2: khaki as well as such affordable prices, one thing I
[33:23] Speaker 2: would say, in terms of trend cheese to get that
[33:25] Speaker 2: kind of volume is feeling that exaggerated look is maybe
[33:29] Speaker 2: size up one size belt, make it all kind of structure.
[33:33] Speaker 1: And also I think you know, it doesn't get really
[33:35] Speaker 1: cold here, but you might travel, you might go down
[33:36] Speaker 1: to Testmania. If you're not from Tesstmania, you might want
[33:38] Speaker 1: to wear chunky and it's underneath these y it doesn't
[33:41] Speaker 1: really like we only need attrench that's it. Yeah, amazing, amazing,
[33:45] Speaker 1: So I think it's always handy.
[33:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, so that you can Yeah, we're chunking it under it.
[33:49] Speaker 2: But even just having that volume really just makes the
[33:52] Speaker 2: proportions and belt and it just those strong shoulders that nipped.
[33:56] Speaker 1: And waste mine of that because I chuck living on
[33:58] Speaker 1: over my pajamas to drop my somen. Literally, my parents
[34:02] Speaker 1: are not canna see what's going on today. Mid Range?
[34:05] Speaker 1: What do you got?
[34:06] Speaker 2: Mid range? It's for market.
[34:07] Speaker 1: It's a black one, the one you aren't give us
[34:10] Speaker 1: a quick rundown of our kit because you know it's
[34:12] Speaker 1: quite new to Australia. We can get it now on
[34:14] Speaker 1: the Iconic.
[34:15] Speaker 2: You can get it now in the Iconic. It's just
[34:17] Speaker 2: a kind of really condensed range. Yeah, but they were
[34:19] Speaker 2: my go tos back in the UK for those amazing
[34:22] Speaker 2: basic pieces, basic good quality. So they have the basics
[34:28] Speaker 2: range kind of thing like that will have those foundation pieces,
[34:32] Speaker 2: but then they will step into kind of trend pieces
[34:34] Speaker 2: so I.
[34:35] Speaker 1: Can see level of kind of price and quality.
[34:38] Speaker 2: I would say here assembly label of Assembly Label. So
[34:42] Speaker 2: I am so drawn to Assembly Label because our Keut
[34:46] Speaker 2: was my go to for jeans, for t shirts for
[34:48] Speaker 2: giants and now it's like Assembly Label. So that does
[34:52] Speaker 2: actually take me on too, like the ones that I
[34:55] Speaker 2: have chose from Australian labels, and Assembly Label has an
[34:59] Speaker 2: amazing trend in store at this minute and time, and
[35:03] Speaker 2: you know their quality is just fantastic for the price.
[35:06] Speaker 2: The craftsmanship even like the design is just so classic.
[35:10] Speaker 1: Yes, I love getting your perspective too as a newbie
[35:12] Speaker 1: to Australia because we if you're born here are in
[35:15] Speaker 1: fashion for a while, you kind of have that like
[35:17] Speaker 1: history of like, oh that brand wasn't cool and nowadays
[35:20] Speaker 1: or now they're doing great and you just are coming
[35:21] Speaker 1: in fresh going that brand's great.
[35:23] Speaker 2: Yeah fresh y, Yeah, it's really yeah, because I I
[35:26] Speaker 2: don't wear up, especially in the summer in the winter
[35:28] Speaker 2: as well. It's like I have my elevated pieces, but
[35:30] Speaker 2: I also have my really key core pieces and when
[35:34] Speaker 2: I look at when I look out Assembly Label, I'm
[35:37] Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, I'll have one of us with them.
[35:40] Speaker 1: And too the fancy one. What's your fancy trench? Oh
[35:43] Speaker 1: my god?
[35:44] Speaker 2: Can I I have two on my lowed two you're allowed.
[35:47] Speaker 2: There's a gray one with like like real structured shoulders
[35:51] Speaker 2: neptan waste from Camella and Mark. Oh, it's incredible. I
[35:55] Speaker 2: wish I could afford that, and I wish.
[35:58] Speaker 1: Do you know roughly how much to that one?
[35:59] Speaker 2: I think it's about eight hundred dollars.
[36:01] Speaker 1: Well some of them got up to like oney one hundred, so.
[36:04] Speaker 2: So that's not bad. Okay, I'll sell some.
[36:06] Speaker 1: Clo that's not a trench. But I do have one
[36:08] Speaker 1: of their longer coats. It's still got oversized. I've had
[36:11] Speaker 1: four years and I flogged it looks brand new.
[36:13] Speaker 2: I am obsessed with this brand. I'm just it's obviously
[36:15] Speaker 2: about Bourgie, so I've not I've not bought into it. Yeah,
[36:18] Speaker 2: I really need to think about it. If those pieces
[36:20] Speaker 2: messing and then I may buy into it. But then
[36:22] Speaker 2: I've also seen this green trench from Friends with Frank,
[36:27] Speaker 2: another brand that I am absolutely loving.
[36:29] Speaker 1: But you get green, khaki green or like khaki green. Yeah.
[36:32] Speaker 2: Oh, it's just stunning and I'm just again, it's just like, oh,
[36:36] Speaker 2: the structure of the shape, the volume is just going
[36:38] Speaker 2: to make your pajamas look fun toast.
[36:41] Speaker 1: Your passion is so adorable. Let me just quickly clarify
[36:45] Speaker 1: before we finish where we're talking trends. Do you mean
[36:46] Speaker 1: like long line like obviously the ankle. Yes, we're then,
[36:50] Speaker 1: and we're not doing crops at the moment.
[36:52] Speaker 2: No, No, I am thinking those big you know, volume
[36:55] Speaker 2: is trenches, yeah, yeah, big lapels, yes, so that's it.
[37:01] Speaker 2: And again, you don't have to go classic and go
[37:03] Speaker 2: for your classic beige colored trench in your class see
[37:07] Speaker 2: you know, pretty barbery. Yes, you know, get some volume
[37:11] Speaker 2: and texture and structured into that and a different colors green, black, gray,
[37:16] Speaker 2: I'm loving.
[37:17] Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I cannot wait to get my trench out.
[37:19] Speaker 1: It's time. It's getting cold. U. Sam, You're amazing. I
[37:21] Speaker 1: love you make cue, You make fashion not scary simple
[37:25] Speaker 1: and you kind of maybe want to stop shopping, which
[37:27] Speaker 1: is amazing.
[37:29] Speaker 2: Did you're bestudd? Thank you.
[37:32] Speaker 1: That's it for today. I hope that was helpful. I'm
[37:34] Speaker 1: off into my wardrobe to try my trenches on with
[37:36] Speaker 1: my Maxi skirts. Don't forget we're everywhere else on the Internet.
[37:39] Speaker 1: Our handles that Nothing to Wear pod and the links
[37:41] Speaker 1: to Instagram, YouTube TikTok are all in the show notes
[37:46] Speaker 1: and leave us at a review. We'd love to hear
[37:48] Speaker 1: what you think and let us know if there's anything
[37:50] Speaker 1: you want us to cover, jeans, swimwear, well maybe not
[37:52] Speaker 1: swimhear right now, but we're listening. Thanks for joining me
[37:55] Speaker 1: and see you next week. Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional
[38:03] Speaker 1: owners of the land. We have recorded this podcast on
[38:06] Speaker 1: the Gallic people of the Urination

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