# Former Vogue Editor: How To Nail Street Style

An episode of [Nothing To Wear](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1589394895), 3 Jun 2025, 25 min.

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On this weeks episode, Leigh Campbell quizzes Mamamia's head of content (and secret style genius) Eliza on how she nails that "did-she-just-step-off-a-Copenhagen-runway?" look. This former Vogue Scandinavia editor treats her morning wardrobe session like meditation to avoid all the chaos. Her style secrets? Scandinavian-inspired layering, tailoring of budget finds, and those game-changing bodysuits that work with everything from weekend shorts to boardroom suits. Forget trend-chasing as we find the perfect balance between high-end items and your go to Uniqlo or Kmart shirt. Mamamia studios are styled with furniture from Fenton and Fenton visit www.fentonandfenton.com.au EVERYTHING MENTIONED: Eliza's Budget: Kmart Long Sleeve Oxford Shirt in White Leigh's Budget: Billini Hazel Handle Bag Eliza's Boujee: Nagnata’s RYDELL SHORT 3.0 in Honeydew, Carla Denim Jean Leigh's Boujee: Motto Navy Faux Leather Pocket Pant Motto GET YOUR FASHION FIX: Watch us on Youtube Follow us on Instagram Want to shop the pod? Sign up to the Nothing To Wear Newsletter to see all the products mentioned plus more, delivered straight to your inbox after every episode. Want more of this? Read this: 7 must-know Scandi brands to reboot your winter wardrobe. Feedback? We’re listening! Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au CREDITS: Host: Leigh Campbell Guest: Eliza Sorman Nilsson Producer: Mollie Harwood Audio Producer: Lu Hill Video Producer: Marlena Cacciotti Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:10] Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the
[0:15] Speaker 1: traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is
[0:18] Speaker 1: recorded on whoever said orange is a new pink with
[0:22] Speaker 1: seriously disturbed laurels for spring groundbreaking? Oh my god, you
[0:27] Speaker 1: have to do it. You live for fashion. Hello, and
[0:32] Speaker 1: welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that solves fashion
[0:35] Speaker 1: problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell, and
[0:38] Speaker 1: every week I talk to an expert who helps us
[0:41] Speaker 1: work out how to get more out of the clothes
[0:43] Speaker 1: we already own and tells us exactly what is and
[0:46] Speaker 1: what isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Today, I'm joined
[0:49] Speaker 1: by someone who's usually behind the scenes, but I've admired
[0:53] Speaker 1: her career and style for years. Her name is Eliza
[0:58] Speaker 1: Soorman Nilsen. She's kind of my boss. She's currently the
[1:02] Speaker 1: head of content here at Mamma Mia, but her fashion
[1:04] Speaker 1: credentials stretch far beyond our office walls. With over fifteen
[1:08] Speaker 1: years in the industry, Eliza's CV is pretty impressive. She's
[1:13] Speaker 1: worked at influential style publications both here in Australia and Scandinavia.
[1:18] Speaker 1: She was the digital editor at Vogue Scandinavia, you know,
[1:22] Speaker 1: no Biggie and before that she was at Australia's Shop
[1:25] Speaker 1: You Drop magazine, which I also worked out Cleo and
[1:28] Speaker 1: Madison Magazine. Now, the reason I'm excited and I forced
[1:31] Speaker 1: her onto the podcast is is because I think she
[1:34] Speaker 1: is the definition of personal style. She always looks great,
[1:38] Speaker 1: She looks like she's thrown it together and you wouldn't
[1:41] Speaker 1: think it works. She's not a huge trend follower from
[1:44] Speaker 1: what I can see, but she always looks very stylish,
[1:46] Speaker 1: and to me, that's personal style. So I'm going to
[1:49] Speaker 1: pick her brain all about her unique global perspective on
[1:52] Speaker 1: everything from micro trends to sustainable fashion and where she
[1:55] Speaker 1: thinks the fashion media landscape is going next. Eliza, welcome
[1:59] Speaker 1: to the show. Thank you for having me. You're kind
[2:01] Speaker 1: of my boss. Yeah, and you're very behind the scenes, yes,
[2:05] Speaker 1: which is where I normally like to be. But you're
[2:08] Speaker 1: a very fashion and star. I shit. We'll get into
[2:10] Speaker 1: in a moment, but before we do, I always ask
[2:13] Speaker 1: first time guests the same two questions. So firstly, can
[2:16] Speaker 1: you describe your style in three words? And what are they?
[2:20] Speaker 2: I actually hate this question because you just sound very
[2:24] Speaker 2: up yourself. But I think I would say maybe like
[2:29] Speaker 2: non ego as one word, playing that place in that
[2:34] Speaker 2: I don't really care that much about brands. I just
[2:38] Speaker 2: like a look, and I'm happy to play with high
[2:40] Speaker 2: end loss.
[2:40] Speaker 1: That's why you're on the topic that we're about to
[2:42] Speaker 1: talk about, because that's exactly what you do. Yeah, what else?
[2:45] Speaker 2: I think I would also say classic.
[2:47] Speaker 1: But not Chanelle Ballet flat classic, You're more like with
[2:50] Speaker 1: a bit of a twist. Yeah, And then my third
[2:53] Speaker 1: word would be potentially daring love it, which just feels
[2:59] Speaker 1: a bit but that'sposition married the classic and the daring
[3:03] Speaker 1: opposites attract and that's how you get your unique style. Yeah,
[3:06] Speaker 1: that's nice, thank you. Most people wear a small portion
[3:10] Speaker 1: of their wardrobe a lot, so ten percent of their
[3:12] Speaker 1: wardrobe ninety percent of the time is the rough step.
[3:15] Speaker 1: So what's in your ten percent that you reach four
[3:17] Speaker 1: more than the other stuff?
[3:18] Speaker 2: Yeah? So I think this is really interesting because I
[3:20] Speaker 2: actually do think I probably wear about thirty percent of
[3:22] Speaker 2: my wardrobe.
[3:23] Speaker 1: You wear a lot. Well, not that I've been to
[3:24] Speaker 1: your wardrobe, but I feel like you don't just wear
[3:27] Speaker 1: things once, but I see you mixing and matching items
[3:30] Speaker 1: in different ways, So I think you must wear more
[3:32] Speaker 1: than ten percent. Yeah.
[3:33] Speaker 2: I think it's also because our workplace. You can really
[3:37] Speaker 2: express yourself here, and I will have lots of client meetings.
[3:40] Speaker 2: So don't really ever want to wear the same thing
[3:43] Speaker 2: all the time as in the whole same outfit exactly exactly.
[3:46] Speaker 2: So I would say, if it's weekends, oversized tea with
[3:51] Speaker 2: little kind of rugby or boxer shorts with socks and
[3:55] Speaker 2: like sambos, sambos kind of socks, like slightly long. Okay,
[4:00] Speaker 2: you're cool, you can see them. Always have a chunky
[4:05] Speaker 2: gold necklace, Always have chunky gold hoops. Always wear bodysuits
[4:11] Speaker 2: like me. I'm not Beyonce like marching around in Aliatard,
[4:15] Speaker 2: but I love a bodysuit, like as a foundation. I'm
[4:18] Speaker 2: wearing one right now. What I love about a bodysuit,
[4:21] Speaker 2: I think everyone should own them. I find them very
[4:23] Speaker 2: comfortable to wear. But they just give you such a
[4:27] Speaker 2: good line. I think it elevates looks.
[4:29] Speaker 1: And then you don't have to really worry about the
[4:30] Speaker 1: tucking in because it's tucked in under your.
[4:32] Speaker 2: Bea and it's it's tucked in nicely. Yes, So I
[4:35] Speaker 2: often wear body suits. I'll have quite a few, so
[4:38] Speaker 2: then you can wear them with jeans, you can wear
[4:39] Speaker 2: them with like I'm wearing a suit today. I honestly
[4:42] Speaker 2: believe they really elevate you look. Skims are great because
[4:45] Speaker 2: they just also fit your body. They're so comfortable and
[4:49] Speaker 2: k might also have a really good.
[4:50] Speaker 1: Range of bodies them with David Jones if you want
[4:52] Speaker 1: to go try it.
[4:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyway, I love skims by suits, but also
[4:56] Speaker 2: like I will wear suits and lots of jeans and
[5:00] Speaker 2: lots of blazers.
[5:01] Speaker 1: Well, the reason you're here is kind of to talk
[5:02] Speaker 1: about how you do mix it up. So you've had
[5:05] Speaker 1: many past lives career wise, they're all kind of related
[5:08] Speaker 1: in a way. Editor at Vote Scandinavia, no big deal.
[5:11] Speaker 1: Before that, you're in magazines like Madison and Shopped You Drop.
[5:15] Speaker 1: We were both at Shopped You Drop their different times,
[5:17] Speaker 1: worked in the same building. And now you're head of
[5:19] Speaker 1: content and MoMA Maya like massive. So with all of that,
[5:23] Speaker 1: you obviously have a passion which is women and telling
[5:25] Speaker 1: stories and what content they want to know about. Why
[5:29] Speaker 1: does that interest you? And as it always interests you?
[5:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I always loved telling stories like I
[5:35] Speaker 2: would sit down my sisters and my brothers and I
[5:38] Speaker 2: would tell them stories. I'd also style them. Like from
[5:41] Speaker 2: a very young age, it was always about storytelling and
[5:44] Speaker 2: dress ups. But I think I started off as a
[5:48] Speaker 2: sub editor at Madison Magazine. So my first job was
[5:51] Speaker 2: writing the copy for all the fashion pages. So that
[5:54] Speaker 2: you explain what a sub editor does for those that
[5:57] Speaker 2: don't know, because now I know. So the sub editor
[6:01] Speaker 2: used to whilst they still do, they still exist. But
[6:04] Speaker 2: a sub editor would read all of the stories, make
[6:07] Speaker 2: sure the grammar was all correct, make sure it was
[6:10] Speaker 2: written well, would edit copy.
[6:13] Speaker 1: We have to take out, like if there's a bird out,
[6:15] Speaker 1: it's too big and it's got to fit on a page.
[6:17] Speaker 1: I used to fight with my subs all the time,
[6:18] Speaker 1: and they're like, you're waffling on this is that red pen.
[6:22] Speaker 2: I was the red pen, and we'd come up with headlines,
[6:25] Speaker 2: we come up with captions. But what I loved about
[6:27] Speaker 2: the job was I would work really closely with the
[6:30] Speaker 2: fashion team and a lot of the stylists. They're not
[6:32] Speaker 2: necessarily trained writers, so I get to write all their pages,
[6:36] Speaker 2: so I would get to write about trends. I worked
[6:38] Speaker 2: with some of the best fashion stylists in Australia, and
[6:42] Speaker 2: so I would sit with them. They would say, this
[6:45] Speaker 2: is what's happening on the runway, this is a trend.
[6:47] Speaker 2: Now you go right about it to like fill the
[6:50] Speaker 2: beautiful pages. So that's where I started really learning about fashion,
[6:53] Speaker 2: because I would sit with those really good editors and
[6:56] Speaker 2: they would then teach me how to shop, how to
[6:58] Speaker 2: shop the runways, what trends to buy, what trends not
[7:01] Speaker 2: to buy, you know, ones that would stay around, and
[7:04] Speaker 2: so I just I loved that. But I also just
[7:06] Speaker 2: love that women are so multifaceted, Like fashion is also
[7:10] Speaker 2: such an important part of culture. It's such an important
[7:13] Speaker 2: part of history, and what you wear really really can
[7:17] Speaker 2: like send messages. I feel like at Taylor Swift, there's
[7:20] Speaker 2: Easter eggs in her clothes. You look at like Malania Trump,
[7:24] Speaker 2: what she wears like literally what she says on her
[7:26] Speaker 2: jacket exactly. So I think that tie with fashion and
[7:30] Speaker 2: culture has always really interested me and it's really powerful.
[7:34] Speaker 1: It is, and I think we don't judge a book
[7:35] Speaker 1: by its cover, but what you wear does present you
[7:39] Speaker 1: to the world in a certain way, and that's not
[7:40] Speaker 1: about spending a lot of money or you know, having
[7:42] Speaker 1: to have a particular style. I love that everyone's unique,
[7:45] Speaker 1: and that's why I wanted to have you here because
[7:46] Speaker 1: I think, whether you meant it or not, you've really
[7:49] Speaker 1: nailed personal style. When I think of you, you have
[7:52] Speaker 1: a personal style that's not like anyone else I know,
[7:55] Speaker 1: but not in a weird, wacky art teacher way or
[7:58] Speaker 1: like you could be like you know, you had just
[8:00] Speaker 1: have the most unique personal style. In your career that
[8:02] Speaker 1: we just discussed, You've witnessed the evolution of fashion and
[8:06] Speaker 1: content from print we were both at magazines, to digital
[8:09] Speaker 1: and then social media. Wow, we've been through a lot.
[8:12] Speaker 1: So how has this transformation changed what women wear? Do
[8:17] Speaker 1: you think and what you wear personally?
[8:19] Speaker 2: I do really think you've seen through the years fashion's
[8:22] Speaker 2: gone from really aspirational too bout personal style. I think,
[8:26] Speaker 2: you know, back in the day you just did have
[8:28] Speaker 2: the magazines, but the Internet and especially TikTok, and I
[8:33] Speaker 2: think YouTube as well now and Instagram and Instagram of course,
[8:38] Speaker 2: but I'm thinking more video, like you know, the led platforms.
[8:42] Speaker 2: Anyone can be a fashion editor now anyone can put
[8:46] Speaker 2: out their own style. And it's also what I think
[8:48] Speaker 2: has happened is now you can see people styling brands
[8:53] Speaker 2: that you don't necessarily associate with fashion, you know, the
[8:56] Speaker 2: high street, but even just like more budget brands, and
[9:00] Speaker 2: you can see people doing amazing things. So it's become
[9:03] Speaker 2: a lot more accessible. I think fashion has become a
[9:06] Speaker 2: lot more accessible. It's kind of lost that polish and
[9:09] Speaker 2: it's more about the individual rather than this is the trend,
[9:12] Speaker 2: we all must follow that now.
[9:13] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so true, and I think also yeah, I
[9:16] Speaker 1: mean social media is a double edged sword in terms
[9:18] Speaker 1: of sort of consumerism and thinking everyone's got heaps of
[9:20] Speaker 1: stuff and you don't. But what I love about it
[9:22] Speaker 1: is you can discover new brands or underground brands or
[9:25] Speaker 1: small brands, or you can get ideas of how to
[9:27] Speaker 1: put things together. And that's how you wear more of
[9:30] Speaker 1: your wardrobe than the ten percent, which I feel like
[9:32] Speaker 1: you absolutely nail. Where does your style inspoke come from?
[9:36] Speaker 2: I'm on the internet a lot, it's where I work,
[9:38] Speaker 2: but also really inspired by the people around me as well.
[9:42] Speaker 2: I love people watching. I loved street style, like street
[9:45] Speaker 2: style back in the day when it first started, like
[9:48] Speaker 2: the materialists.
[9:49] Speaker 1: Oh my god, remember that?
[9:50] Speaker 2: Yeah, like style Hunter, I loved Street Style life. That
[9:53] Speaker 2: was my thing. I just could scroll for hours. I
[9:57] Speaker 2: also get really inspired by newsletters. I sign up to
[10:00] Speaker 2: a lot of brand's newsletters.
[10:02] Speaker 1: That's interesting.
[10:04] Speaker 2: If there's a brand I like, I will sign up
[10:06] Speaker 2: to the newsletters straight away. And I just love going
[10:09] Speaker 2: through my inbo I find it's so relaxing and you're
[10:11] Speaker 2: just like, that's then you outfit. Okay, so that's kind
[10:13] Speaker 2: of the look that they're going for this season. Oh,
[10:15] Speaker 2: it's a little bit more laid back and effortless, and
[10:18] Speaker 2: so you kind of know what everyone's doing that season,
[10:21] Speaker 2: and then you can kind of start seeing it in
[10:23] Speaker 2: street style and understand the pieces. And you can see also,
[10:26] Speaker 2: like you know, a trend if one brand's.
[10:29] Speaker 1: Doing this skirt. Oh that skirts in every brand. Okay,
[10:32] Speaker 1: so that's the skirt of the season. You kind of
[10:34] Speaker 1: follow the story. Yeah, And I love the newsletter because
[10:36] Speaker 1: it just comes to me. I saved my adms my
[10:39] Speaker 1: newsletters for Sunday mornings, so you know, back in the day,
[10:41] Speaker 1: I used to go get the Sunday paper or read
[10:43] Speaker 1: it a cafe, and now I read my favorite newsletters
[10:46] Speaker 1: in my inbox on a Sunday morning.
[10:47] Speaker 2: It's so relaxing and fun.
[10:49] Speaker 1: Interestingly, over this career and over your life, you've lived
[10:52] Speaker 1: in Sweden. Yeah, and then you kind of recently came
[10:55] Speaker 1: back to Australia what two years ago now, yeah, nearly
[10:57] Speaker 1: two year two years? So what did you take from
[11:00] Speaker 1: Scandinavian style because I feel like I don't know. Well,
[11:03] Speaker 1: you tell me how does it differ or how is
[11:05] Speaker 1: it similar to Australian women and their style.
[11:08] Speaker 2: Well, so Scandinavians are a lot dressed up then yeah,
[11:11] Speaker 2: I think Australians are a lot more easy going and
[11:14] Speaker 2: laid back. It's more active wear in Australia. Yes, And
[11:19] Speaker 2: in Sweden I would wear my tights and get looks
[11:23] Speaker 2: you may have the cultures do not wear active wear
[11:26] Speaker 2: unless you're going to the gym. Unless you're going to
[11:27] Speaker 2: the gym, and even then you're wearing your jeans and
[11:30] Speaker 2: you're changing at the gym and you're changing back into
[11:32] Speaker 2: your jeans. I was very like too interest when I
[11:36] Speaker 2: would wear my active wear and then my friends would
[11:38] Speaker 2: come and visit and I'm like, do you not wear
[11:39] Speaker 2: your active where you're embarrassing? But it was like clean
[11:42] Speaker 2: lines tailoring. They mastered that art of that oversize, just
[11:48] Speaker 2: that like hair oversize for everything. So the shirts, the tailoring,
[11:53] Speaker 2: and I think when you look at I know you
[11:55] Speaker 2: talk about like Copenhagen style a lot like the street style,
[11:58] Speaker 2: and what comes out of the fashion weeks is really colorful,
[12:01] Speaker 2: but the everyday person it is more your blacks and
[12:05] Speaker 2: your mutuels, a bit more toned down, a bit more
[12:07] Speaker 2: toned down. They are so good at layering. So he's
[12:11] Speaker 2: at the weather because yeah, exactly because of the weather.
[12:14] Speaker 2: But like wearing a trench coat, it's so considered, like
[12:18] Speaker 2: in Australia, there's actually no need to wear a trench no.
[12:21] Speaker 1: Yeah, but all you've got undred is a tea.
[12:23] Speaker 2: But they're probably they've got a great near but they
[12:26] Speaker 2: know how to use the right fibers to layer so
[12:29] Speaker 2: that you're not bulky. What they wear, it's so intentional
[12:33] Speaker 2: and effortless. That's a lot lots of tailoring. And I
[12:36] Speaker 2: feel like you brought that home with you because you
[12:37] Speaker 2: do that very well. Yeah. I love like I definitely
[12:40] Speaker 2: would never have worn a suit before I went to Sweden,
[12:43] Speaker 2: and now I like, oh I love a suit.
[12:55] Speaker 1: I'm sure you've gathered some information and favorites from over there.
[12:58] Speaker 1: So can you tell us a bit about your favorite
[13:00] Speaker 1: scandy brands or designers.
[13:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, so obviously love Acne.
[13:04] Speaker 1: I thought Acne was American.
[13:05] Speaker 2: No, yeah, they're Swedish, very very Swedish. So Acne is
[13:09] Speaker 2: your g jans that really cool street vibes. But one
[13:12] Speaker 2: of the creators of Acne has also started Eighties, which
[13:15] Speaker 2: is great. Look it up. It's e y t Ys.
[13:19] Speaker 1: Please hold I google everything in these shows. Yes, yt
[13:23] Speaker 1: Ys really cool. The website is actually down at the moment,
[13:27] Speaker 1: which is sad, but you can see their stuff on
[13:29] Speaker 1: you and you can get it on far fettion ss sense.
[13:32] Speaker 1: I don't even know.
[13:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, they do really cool jeans, really cool boots, really cool.
[13:37] Speaker 2: I love Rugby jersey. I was wearing one yesterday. They
[13:41] Speaker 2: did cool Rugby jerseys, cool bomber jackets, like just that
[13:44] Speaker 2: street style. Oh is it amazing? I didn't even know that.
[13:48] Speaker 2: Love Stand Studios, lovest Stand Stand Studio Studio, S T, A,
[13:55] Speaker 2: N D and studios. They do leather, really really good leather,
[13:59] Speaker 2: so like great leather skirts, great leather jackets.
[14:02] Speaker 1: So it's an investment price point.
[14:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, investment price point incredible out of web. So I
[14:07] Speaker 2: have some really good fake for coats, but it's so funny.
[14:10] Speaker 2: I wear them to the office and everyone's like, oh,
[14:12] Speaker 2: there's Miranda Priestley.
[14:14] Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're like, excuse me, I've got individual style.
[14:17] Speaker 2: I'm from Scandinavia. Yeah, so really incredible obviously, and Nina
[14:22] Speaker 2: being obviously Ganny. It's so fun. Ganny is also really
[14:27] Speaker 2: good to buy secondhand because it lasts. Look up Jade Cropper.
[14:30] Speaker 2: That's the brand that all the cool girls.
[14:33] Speaker 1: Are wearing, the celebrities.
[14:34] Speaker 2: Yeah, like the Kardashians. It's also all that kind of
[14:38] Speaker 2: draping high high here, the rounded shoulders, the asymmetrical bunching.
[14:44] Speaker 2: I mean like.
[14:45] Speaker 1: It's yes, look a middriff is four hundred and sixty
[14:48] Speaker 1: nine dollars, but it's good to ye yes, safe, yeah,
[14:51] Speaker 1: and sign up to the adms and the newsletters or
[14:53] Speaker 1: just have a look. Yeah.
[14:54] Speaker 2: I think it's just also seeing the different styles because
[14:57] Speaker 2: then you go and you see, oh, what's the dupe version?
[15:00] Speaker 1: And some of these brands you can get here. I
[15:02] Speaker 1: mean obviously with the internet mostly can get everything. Yeah.
[15:04] Speaker 1: I want to talk about not just those brands, but
[15:06] Speaker 1: sort of globally and in Australia, fashion trends Yep, you've
[15:11] Speaker 1: talked about how you kind of research them. What are
[15:13] Speaker 1: your thoughts on them as a topic. Do you find
[15:17] Speaker 1: they're moving too fast? Do you find we're calling everything
[15:20] Speaker 1: a trend when it's a color.
[15:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's moving pretty fast. It is really
[15:25] Speaker 2: hard to keep up, and I just think sometimes it's
[15:27] Speaker 2: just not worth keeping up. But I also think we
[15:29] Speaker 2: label things that's just an item as a trend.
[15:33] Speaker 1: It's great that there's a name, but it kind of
[15:35] Speaker 1: makes it feel like then it goes in and out,
[15:37] Speaker 1: when really it's just a lovely red item that didn't
[15:41] Speaker 1: need that lad.
[15:41] Speaker 2: Yeah that's new and fresh or a different take on something. Yes,
[15:46] Speaker 2: So that's why I love knowing what everyone's wearing right now.
[15:50] Speaker 2: But I'll happily tap out.
[15:51] Speaker 1: So you work in the internet, as I say, yeah,
[15:55] Speaker 1: and you're almost always in the office when I get here.
[15:58] Speaker 1: You basically live here. So do you mostly shop online?
[16:01] Speaker 1: Do you shop iral in real life and either or
[16:06] Speaker 1: what are your go to sites or stores? I definitely
[16:08] Speaker 1: always shop online. I'll have my brands that I love
[16:11] Speaker 1: from newsletters. I love a big scroll on Dish. I
[16:14] Speaker 1: just I love seeing what dish is doing. Love the Iconic.
[16:18] Speaker 2: The Iconic's great for when you have that specific piece
[16:21] Speaker 2: and you want to know different price points, so you
[16:23] Speaker 2: use the filters to be like black black jeans. Also,
[16:27] Speaker 2: I just think the algorithm on the Iconic's grade in
[16:30] Speaker 2: the sense that you find one piece and then you
[16:32] Speaker 2: can see all the different versions of it in different prices.
[16:35] Speaker 2: I always love to invest in swimwear because I just
[16:38] Speaker 2: feel like you show you you're often wearing it, and
[16:40] Speaker 2: I love a body suit, so I can then use it.
[16:43] Speaker 2: So like BONDI, I love their suit. It's like ONNS
[16:47] Speaker 2: of g Am I saying it probably and then Efemera
[16:49] Speaker 2: so like they're my threes e Femera you've had to
[16:52] Speaker 2: call on the show. Yeah, I love a one piece,
[16:55] Speaker 2: so I always invest there. But also I do that
[16:57] Speaker 2: online because it's like I know, I know the brands.
[17:01] Speaker 2: Love going to Vinice. I love it. Yeah, I love it.
[17:04] Speaker 2: I think you've said it before in the podcast. I
[17:06] Speaker 2: find it relaxing. I find it like ill. Yes, it's
[17:11] Speaker 2: such a challenge, it's so enjoyable.
[17:13] Speaker 1: It's generally more affordable, and also then you're saving something
[17:17] Speaker 1: from land film exactly.
[17:18] Speaker 2: I also look out for warehouse sales. Oh, if you
[17:21] Speaker 2: want to build out a classic like quality quality wardrobe,
[17:26] Speaker 2: look out for the warehouse sales. They're actually really worth it.
[17:29] Speaker 1: And thankfully a lot of brands now because you know
[17:31] Speaker 1: people are rural or not always in Sydney or Melbourne,
[17:33] Speaker 1: are doing them online.
[17:34] Speaker 2: Archive sales online.
[17:36] Speaker 1: I really know what I don't want to have to
[17:38] Speaker 1: go on line up or I can't, or it's in Melbourne.
[17:40] Speaker 1: Pop it online, we will buy it.
[17:42] Speaker 2: One thing that I really do with clothes is I
[17:46] Speaker 2: don't actually look that much at sizes. I actually got
[17:51] Speaker 2: a lot of my clothes altered. Do you Yes, No,
[17:54] Speaker 2: it's not so I think it's not. It depends on
[17:59] Speaker 2: if there's something you really like, it's good quality. You know,
[18:03] Speaker 2: if it fits better, you're going to wear it more.
[18:05] Speaker 2: So that ten dollars or that twenty dollars is actually
[18:09] Speaker 2: worth it. That's why I can shop online because I
[18:13] Speaker 2: often will go, okay, I'm going to get a bigger
[18:15] Speaker 2: size and I will get it.
[18:18] Speaker 1: Take tailored. You're quite tall. Do you have problems with pants?
[18:21] Speaker 2: Yeah?
[18:21] Speaker 1: Definitely, pants online is hard. I agree tailoring's worth it. Particularly,
[18:25] Speaker 1: like you say, if you go to a warehouse sale,
[18:27] Speaker 1: it's a good quality brand, and you know, maybe you've
[18:30] Speaker 1: got it seventy percent off. Yes, you might have to
[18:31] Speaker 1: pay a little bit to get it tweaked, but then
[18:33] Speaker 1: it's fits you perfectly and you'll have it forever. One
[18:36] Speaker 1: really good example of this is I bought in a
[18:38] Speaker 1: Marks and Spencer sale this beautiful tweed black dress that
[18:43] Speaker 1: it looks like it's a Chanel dress.
[18:45] Speaker 2: I didn't even look at this size. I got it.
[18:48] Speaker 2: I got it perfectly tailored for me, and now it does.
[18:51] Speaker 1: Look like sh yes, and it probably fits you better
[18:53] Speaker 1: than the way it would have fit if you brought
[18:55] Speaker 1: it in your size, because you've had it made like
[18:57] Speaker 1: perfectly to you. Also, I think on that point as well,
[19:00] Speaker 1: just generally forget the tailoring part, but just I mean,
[19:02] Speaker 1: you've got to look at the size. But if you're
[19:04] Speaker 1: shopping in real life, I always will take in three
[19:06] Speaker 1: different sizes. Yeah, I might want it oversized some brand
[19:09] Speaker 1: I know my size, but then if it's mid rise
[19:12] Speaker 1: or high rise, you know, you just if you look
[19:15] Speaker 1: at something and go, oh, that's not my size, just
[19:17] Speaker 1: think of it as a garment, an item, take a
[19:20] Speaker 1: few to try on, or if there's a good returns
[19:22] Speaker 1: policy online.
[19:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, I always know the returns policy.
[19:24] Speaker 1: Always know the returns policy, but just yeah, don't let
[19:26] Speaker 1: that dictate or make you feel bad.
[19:28] Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
[19:29] Speaker 1: You know, I like literally have fifteen different types of
[19:33] Speaker 1: sizes in my wardrobe.
[19:34] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and all brands are so different.
[19:36] Speaker 1: So it's getting chilly now and you live somewhere that
[19:39] Speaker 1: got quite chili yeah.
[19:41] Speaker 2: Minus twenty three degrees chili.
[19:43] Speaker 1: Yes, very cold, So talk to me about winter dressing,
[19:48] Speaker 1: what you learn from over there or your vibes for now.
[19:51] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely looking at the fabrics. It's getting those
[19:54] Speaker 2: natural fibers so that then they're thinner not bulky, so
[19:57] Speaker 2: that you can layer. But my trick is to stick
[20:00] Speaker 2: to the like one silhouette rule, so like either an
[20:03] Speaker 2: oversized top with a thin slimmer bottle, slimmer bottoms or
[20:07] Speaker 2: the reverse, because otherwise it can and just get quite chunky.
[20:11] Speaker 1: Because I'm not used to going to cold cold. If
[20:13] Speaker 1: I ever travel to cold cold, I look like that
[20:14] Speaker 1: marshmallow and blow up man because I'm just like, must
[20:17] Speaker 1: stay warm. Yeah, okay, so proportions.
[20:20] Speaker 2: Proportions is definitely one thing, and I just also think
[20:24] Speaker 2: everyone should invest in a knitted sleeveless vest.
[20:27] Speaker 1: Oh what do you mean? You know those like waistcoat style.
[20:31] Speaker 1: I don't have one.
[20:32] Speaker 2: I'm going to show you can do some good wine
[20:35] Speaker 2: because they are perfect to put over a shirt, or
[20:39] Speaker 2: you can just wear it by itself and it's still
[20:40] Speaker 2: warm because it's that knitted.
[20:43] Speaker 1: I've thought of about item. Okay, yeah, so I think
[20:46] Speaker 1: about layering smart not bulky, and really look at the fabric.
[21:02] Speaker 3: It's very expensive, all right, my, and on to bougie
[21:10] Speaker 3: and budget okay, kibougie.
[21:13] Speaker 2: I think I'm actually going to go with Nagnates ride
[21:16] Speaker 2: ell short. I know that we're going into winter and
[21:19] Speaker 2: they'll be extremely not appropriate, not really inappropriate, but I
[21:24] Speaker 2: love a good little mini short.
[21:26] Speaker 1: Okay for the gym, No, they're made of wool. Yeah,
[21:30] Speaker 1: have you seenagna I've got a pair of their active
[21:32] Speaker 1: wear shorts, which I love. Yeah, when I'm active and
[21:35] Speaker 1: when it's summer, which hasn't been ether recently.
[21:37] Speaker 2: It's more lounge wary. Looks really really good with a shirt,
[21:42] Speaker 2: so I would team it with a shirt, a gold chain,
[21:45] Speaker 2: or it looks really good with an oversized tea and
[21:47] Speaker 2: then your socks in your sneakers so it'd be part
[21:49] Speaker 2: of my weekend.
[21:50] Speaker 1: How much to sixty for a pair for a pair
[21:53] Speaker 1: of woolen undies for a pair of.
[21:55] Speaker 2: Wool and undies. But you said I was allowed to
[21:57] Speaker 2: do bougie.
[21:58] Speaker 1: You are an Ossie brand, good quality, natural fibers approved approved. Okay,
[22:02] Speaker 1: so my bougie isn't that bougie. They are a pair
[22:07] Speaker 1: of pants from an Assie label called Moto Fashion.
[22:10] Speaker 2: I love these.
[22:12] Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm gonna have to recommend the Navy because
[22:14] Speaker 1: at the time of recording, the Burgundy is sold out.
[22:16] Speaker 1: They're called the Navy Faux Leather pocket pants. I have
[22:19] Speaker 1: the wine color.
[22:21] Speaker 2: Yes, and I've seen you wear them and they are incredible.
[22:24] Speaker 1: I love them. They're very comfortable, high waisted, fly button
[22:28] Speaker 1: pockets at the front, but not that you put anything
[22:30] Speaker 1: in them. Straight to whiteish. Yeah, I'm not doing the
[22:32] Speaker 1: tight leather or faux leather at the moment, not that
[22:35] Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with that, but they just are so comfortable.
[22:38] Speaker 1: They're not cropped on me. They might be too short
[22:41] Speaker 1: on you, they might be a bit.
[22:42] Speaker 2: Yeah, I am a bit worried about that for me, but.
[22:44] Speaker 1: They look so good on honestly, I mean they're one
[22:46] Speaker 1: fifty nine ninety five, so not crazy, but you can
[22:49] Speaker 1: get cheaper. But they're an Aussie brand. The Navy's beautiful,
[22:52] Speaker 1: like imagine the Navy with the gray mark. But I
[22:55] Speaker 1: just love the Burgundy. And they have a really good
[22:56] Speaker 1: size range of eight to twenty. Yeah, that's incredible, so good.
[23:00] Speaker 1: So check them out on line and see if they
[23:01] Speaker 1: do restock the Burgundy. I have message them so fingers crossed.
[23:05] Speaker 1: All right, budget, my friend. So for my budget, I'm
[23:07] Speaker 1: going with a kmart piece. Oh yeah.
[23:10] Speaker 2: It is their long sleeve Oxford shirt. It is incredible.
[23:14] Speaker 2: It comes in a few different colors.
[23:16] Speaker 1: How many people do you think in the office has that?
[23:18] Speaker 2: I think it's mandatory, but the quality of it is
[23:20] Speaker 2: so good. It comes in a pink, it comes in
[23:22] Speaker 2: a white.
[23:23] Speaker 1: I wore that and someone said to me it's that
[23:24] Speaker 1: Luova and I was like, no, but it's very similar.
[23:26] Speaker 1: Lo twenty five thirty five.
[23:28] Speaker 2: I think it's twenty five, Yeah, twenty five dollars. It
[23:31] Speaker 2: would be go perfectly over the Nagnaita shorts, the wool aunties. Yeah,
[23:35] Speaker 2: perfect over wool ants.
[23:36] Speaker 1: And even though it's cad of a medium weight and
[23:38] Speaker 1: got that kind of Oxford shirt vibe. You could wear
[23:41] Speaker 1: that over swimmers in summer. Yeah, yeah, shorts, leather pants.
[23:44] Speaker 1: I'm obsessed. I love how I'm selling you on your own.
[23:47] Speaker 2: Yep.
[23:47] Speaker 1: My budget is a bag from Bellini. It's called the
[23:51] Speaker 1: Hazel Handlebag. Full price at seventy nine ninety five. At
[23:54] Speaker 1: the time of recording, it's forty seven bucks. Wow, that
[23:57] Speaker 1: worst casey is spending eighty dollars. So it's a Mulberry
[24:01] Speaker 1: kind of ready BURGUNDYEP patent.
[24:03] Speaker 2: Oh that's incredible.
[24:04] Speaker 1: Now can I tell you why I brought that? Because
[24:06] Speaker 1: you have unique cool bags that I always ask you about,
[24:08] Speaker 1: and this felt very ali.
[24:10] Speaker 2: Yeah. I have a Gunny bag that looks very similar.
[24:13] Speaker 1: Okay that Yeah, we had Osmosis. It's just like shiny Patent,
[24:18] Speaker 1: which I find where it's quite well. If it's an
[24:19] Speaker 1: affordable brand, sometimes better than those cheap fake leathers. Bucket bag,
[24:24] Speaker 1: cool buckle like that looks designer.
[24:26] Speaker 2: I love the gold accent and I love how it's
[24:29] Speaker 2: cinched in and it's got little gold feet.
[24:31] Speaker 1: Yeah, with gold feats. Maybe that will become the k
[24:34] Speaker 1: maut shirt bag of the office. Yeah, Eliza, I love you.
[24:38] Speaker 1: Thanks for being the best boss. Thanks for always inspiring
[24:40] Speaker 1: me with your style and I hope you come back
[24:42] Speaker 1: and join us again.
[24:43] Speaker 2: Sim Oh, thank you. This was so fun.
[24:44] Speaker 1: Thank you Lee, Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear.
[24:48] Speaker 1: And if you want the newsletter that goes with his
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[24:55] Speaker 1: This episode was produced by Molly Harwood, with audio production
[24:58] Speaker 1: by Lou Hill

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