# A Fresh Perspective on National Security Policy

An episode of [Smart Women, Smart Power](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1577846548), 24 Oct 2025, 24 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/CSIS4763091822.mp3

Dr. Kathleen McInnis joins Nina Easton, Co-CEO of SellersEaston Media and Co-Founder of Journey to Lead, for a thoughtful discussion reflecting on her time leading SWSP and shaping a research agenda that explores how the United States can apply fresh perspectives to its most pressing security challenges — from strategic competition with China to Russia’s war in Ukraine. We hope you'll stay tuned as we continue to bring you powerful, in-depth conversations with women leaders from around the globe.

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