# Pentagon Perspectives: Managing from Within

An episode of [Smart Women, Smart Power](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1577846548), 3 Jan 2024, 24 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/CSIS3382222948.mp3?updated=1704225179

Host Kathleen McInnis sat down with Beth McGrath, Deloitte’s Global Industry Leader for Government and Public Services (GPS), at the 2023 Halifax International Security Forum. The conversation followed Beth’s 25+ years in the Federal Government, including her focus on improving business operations within the Department of Defense, as well as her transition to the private sector.

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