# The 2022 National Defense Strategy

An episode of [Smart Women, Smart Power](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1577846548), 16 Nov 2022, 24 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/CSIS3338654676.mp3?updated=1668616322

Dr. Mara E. Karlin, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Strategy, Plans, and Capabilities, joined host Kathleen McInnis for a conversation on the newly released 2022 National Defense Strategy, including the focus on the urgent need to sustain and strengthen deterrence with the People’s Republic of China (PRC) as the pacing challenge.

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