# On the Road in Ukraine

An episode of [Smart Women, Smart Power](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1577846548), 30 Aug 2023, 15 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/CSIS9998124853.mp3?updated=1693413182

While traveling on a delegation throughout Ukraine, host Kathleen McInnis sat down with Elizabeth Hoffman, CSIS Fellow and Director of Congressional and Government Affairs, for a compelling conversation on the current state of the region, as well as key questions the United States should be considering moving forward.

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