# The Pentagon Puzzle

An episode of [Smart Women, Smart Power](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1577846548), 28 Jun 2023, 30 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/CSIS4076663723.mp3?updated=1687439306

Host Kathleen McInnis sat down with Kari Bingen, director of the Aerospace Security Project and a senior fellow in the International Security Program at CSIS. The pair discussed the Pentagon’s organizational design in an era of rapidly developing and complex threats.

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