# Secrets and Sacrifices: CIA, Benghazi, and Motherhood

An episode of [Smart Women, Smart Power](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1577846548), 21 Aug 2024, 48 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/CSIS2192385131.mp3?updated=1724251501

After 25 years working for the CIA, the Honorable Sue Gordon has served the United States across administrations. She joins Dr. Kathleen McInnis and Lauren Bedula, the Managing Director at Beacon Global Strategies, for a conversation on how she balanced it all as a mother of two—plus, she’ll get into her time in the CIA during the 2012 Benghazi attacks – where the realization came that secrets just aren’t what they used to be.

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