# Quincy Allen: A Conversation with Karen Conti

An episode of [Killer Psyche](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1573961841), 15 Oct 2024, 42 min.

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Retired FBI agent and criminal profiler Candice DeLong speaks with Karen Conti, John Wayne Gacy’s former appeals lawyer, to discuss the case of Quincy Allen. In 2002, Allen went on a deadly crime spree that claimed the lives of four people across two states. He pleaded guilty in both states, receiving a life sentence in one – but a death sentence in the other. His sentence was overturned in 2022 after it was found that Allen’s history of childhood abuse and mental illness were not considered by the sentencing judge – and, most recently, Allen was resentenced to life in prison instead. Candice and Karen discuss Allen’s background and the factors that led to a successful appeal in his case. Karen's book, "Killing Time with John Wayne Gacy: Defending America’s Most Evil Serial Killer on Death Row" is out now and available on Amazon and most book retailers. To learn more about Karen and the book, please check out www.karenconti.com Need more Killer Psyche? With Wondery+, enjoy exclusive episodes, early access to new ones, and they’re always ad-free. Start your free trial in the Wondery App or visit wondery.app.link/TI5l5KzpDLb now. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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