# Jim Jefferies on Albo's Joke Scandal, His Nephew's Tragic Death & America's Madness

An episode of [Straight Talk with Mark Bouris](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1572546872), 12 Jul 2026, 1 h 19 min.

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Jim Jefferies has done 6 Netflix specials, more than any comedian on earth. But this conversation goes well beyond comedy. Jim opens up about his nephew Lieutenant Maxwell Nugent, one of four soldiers killed in the Whitsundays helicopter crash, and why he believes both Liberal and Labor governments closed ranks to bury the truth. From ICE raids to Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's joke scandal, Ozempic to sports cards, this is Jim Jefferies completely unfiltered. Find tickets to see Jim on his Australian comedy tour here: https://jimjefferies.com/ Subscribe to the Mentored newsletter here: https://the-mentored-platform-pty-ltd.myklpages.com/l/WWJGc5 Join my exclusive Mentored+ community: https://mentored.com.au/become-a-member/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Every time I come here, I've got a mistafe. You know,
[0:02] Speaker 1: we don't wear a mustache all the time, but it's just,
[0:04] Speaker 1: you know, it's I think I think my wife likes
[0:08] Speaker 1: me having a mistache because it makes me repulsive to women. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
[0:15] Speaker 1: so we can talk about the way I now we're
[0:16] Speaker 1: talking about it, talk about because I've got a lot
[0:18] Speaker 1: going on with that that's really flipped on its head
[0:21] Speaker 1: in the last week.
[0:22] Speaker 2: But the first thing I want to talk to you though about,
[0:23] Speaker 2: is last time you here, we're talking about Perth Bears.
[0:25] Speaker 1: Hey, Peel Bears back, baby. Yeah, I'm very excited about that.
[0:29] Speaker 1: I'm very excited. I try to be involved as much
[0:32] Speaker 1: as possible. I don't want to get too involved because
[0:33] Speaker 1: I always get in trouble with the NRL doing something.
[0:35] Speaker 1: You know what happened with me in Vegas? You were there,
[0:37] Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, so I don't want to, you know,
[0:40] Speaker 1: cause any trouble for.
[0:41] Speaker 2: The well, just just for the autists who were not
[0:44] Speaker 2: in Vegas.
[0:44] Speaker 1: Tell us what I weren't in the er. Fine, everything's fine, right,
[0:47] Speaker 1: everything's fine, but very simple. What happened was I was there,
[0:52] Speaker 1: they were very nice, they were promoting the shows, that
[0:54] Speaker 1: I was doing in Vegas, just on their social medias
[0:56] Speaker 1: and all the type of stuff, and they said, can
[0:58] Speaker 1: you come to a party we're having? It was described
[1:02] Speaker 1: to me as a party, and I was like, I
[1:04] Speaker 1: don't really get in till the next day. And they're like, oh,
[1:06] Speaker 1: it would really mean a lot to us if you
[1:08] Speaker 1: came to this party and you can meet the players
[1:10] Speaker 1: and all that, and they went, oh, go on, then
[1:11] Speaker 1: what's the next night in Vegas? As you know, happy
[1:13] Speaker 1: to be in Vegas as long as I can. So
[1:17] Speaker 1: I go there and then and then that day they
[1:19] Speaker 1: were like, if you could just get up and say
[1:21] Speaker 1: a few words, right, that's that's code language to stand up. Yeah, right,
[1:26] Speaker 1: I don't have any Rugby League jokes or anything like that,
[1:28] Speaker 1: and I don't, you know. And so it turned out
[1:31] Speaker 1: the party was Fremont Street in front of fifteen thousand
[1:36] Speaker 1: people who were half it was British, half it was Australian.
[1:39] Speaker 1: They've been drinking since midday and then when I showed up.
[1:44] Speaker 1: That's a terrifying occasion for a comedy commed We need
[1:47] Speaker 1: we need focus focus as entertainers. We're not the same
[1:50] Speaker 1: as bands where we just play over the top for
[1:53] Speaker 1: people who are so silly and add them and stuff.
[1:55] Speaker 1: We actually need extreme focus for the art form to work.
[1:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, listen to me.
[1:58] Speaker 1: Yeah, and so well, that's why we gets upset with
[2:01] Speaker 1: people on their phones and stuff like that, because we
[2:03] Speaker 1: need focus. Otherwise you're not going to get the mister
[2:05] Speaker 1: X or anything like that. You're not going to find
[2:07] Speaker 1: the punchlines. You're not going to see what's happening. And
[2:09] Speaker 1: so I said, I'm not going to do stand up
[2:12] Speaker 1: and they said I, well, just you get up and
[2:14] Speaker 1: be interviewed for a bit. And I was like, go on. Then,
[2:19] Speaker 1: so I show up there, I get backstage and like
[2:22] Speaker 1: you're on in five and I'm still not quite sure
[2:25] Speaker 1: what I'm And then I was pushed out there and
[2:28] Speaker 1: so I said, as I do, you put me in
[2:31] Speaker 1: front of fifteen thousand drunk people, the results are always
[2:33] Speaker 1: going to be the same, Right, I'm going to go,
[2:36] Speaker 1: how the fuck are we all doing? Who is fucking from? Fuck? Back? Back?
[2:40] Speaker 1: And I did what I did, and I got the
[2:42] Speaker 1: in the English fans, well, I actually thought I did
[2:45] Speaker 1: a really good job. Was it? At least at least
[2:47] Speaker 1: I was aptivating or they were interested in what I
[2:51] Speaker 1: was doing. So I did a bit of English fans,
[2:55] Speaker 1: this fans, this fan, this fans, and then someone asked
[2:58] Speaker 1: me a question. They go, what's there to do if
[3:01] Speaker 1: you're in Las Vegas and we're not seeing your show
[3:04] Speaker 1: and we're not gambling, and we're not going to the
[3:06] Speaker 1: rugby league and so prostitutes that's the only thing left.
[3:11] Speaker 1: What else do you think is going on in Vegas?
[3:13] Speaker 1: If you're not doing gambling or seeing a live show,
[3:16] Speaker 1: what you're enjoying the parks? You know what I mean,
[3:20] Speaker 1: You're in the middle of the hot desert. This is
[3:21] Speaker 1: what you're doing. And you know so I said prostitutes
[3:25] Speaker 1: or something that. Anyway, I walk off stage thinking I
[3:28] Speaker 1: did fine. I got away with it. I got some
[3:31] Speaker 1: booing from the British fans and some cheering and some things,
[3:34] Speaker 1: and I tried to make it a bit pantomimey, you know. Ooh.
[3:38] Speaker 1: Anyway I got off. The lady from the NRL was mortified.
[3:42] Speaker 1: She just was and she went there were children out there,
[3:46] Speaker 1: not many. And I was like, but you didn't ask
[3:50] Speaker 1: me not to swear. See if I do radio and
[3:52] Speaker 1: they say, don't swear, I don't swear. I don't swear
[3:54] Speaker 1: on the one percent club, because I know I'm not
[3:56] Speaker 1: to swear. If someone all they had to do with me,
[3:58] Speaker 1: don't swear out there, I can take. But if you
[4:02] Speaker 1: put a duck on stage and then he quacked right,
[4:05] Speaker 1: and you went why did you quack? What do you ask? Right?
[4:07] Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, this is what I do and
[4:10] Speaker 1: if you ask me to do something different. But you know, look,
[4:12] Speaker 1: I wish that I approached the situation differently differently, but
[4:17] Speaker 1: the situation that I was put in, that was always
[4:19] Speaker 1: going to be the end result. And if I had
[4:21] Speaker 1: another time over, I'd have another go. But I me
[4:24] Speaker 1: and that rugby league have had a chat and an
[4:26] Speaker 1: apology from me and we're all good to go. And
[4:29] Speaker 1: I still want to be involved with the Bears as
[4:31] Speaker 1: much as possible.
[4:32] Speaker 2: The only truth they're going to be invited to the
[4:33] Speaker 2: border the Bears.
[4:34] Speaker 1: I don't know hockey. I don't know about being invited
[4:37] Speaker 1: on the board of the Bears.
[4:38] Speaker 2: But would you take it? Oh you love her that much?
[4:41] Speaker 1: Yeah? I love sports. I you know, that's the dream
[4:46] Speaker 1: is to you know, to own a sporting team or
[4:49] Speaker 1: something like that. Like I play fantasy sports where I'm
[4:51] Speaker 1: trying to make my team work. Now it's it's the
[4:54] Speaker 1: best I clicked sports cards. I'm like mad into sports.
[4:57] Speaker 1: I think it's the best hobby you can have. It
[5:01] Speaker 1: doesn't hurt anyone. It gives you conversation with strangers all
[5:05] Speaker 1: the time. When you move to a new country, which
[5:08] Speaker 1: I've done several times, it's the best way to assimilate
[5:11] Speaker 1: with the people that are there. So the first thing
[5:14] Speaker 1: I did when I went to England picked a Premier
[5:17] Speaker 1: League team, and I learned all the players, and I
[5:19] Speaker 1: went to as many games as I could, and the
[5:21] Speaker 1: autism and all that. I like the numbers and statistics
[5:24] Speaker 1: and all that type of stuff. But then if you
[5:25] Speaker 1: can say to a person, oh, this players scor this
[5:27] Speaker 1: many goals in this game, and they respect that. When
[5:30] Speaker 1: I first moved to America, I went to the Dodgers,
[5:33] Speaker 1: and that's become my favorite sport because baseball is my
[5:35] Speaker 1: favorite that I like it. It's all statistics and numbers
[5:38] Speaker 1: and there's moments in time at the end of the day,
[5:41] Speaker 1: you can actually like the moneyball of this player played well.
[5:44] Speaker 1: This analytics analytics love it, love it, and and my
[5:48] Speaker 1: son plays the little league and ill type of stuff.
[5:50] Speaker 1: So I was saying, I gave up drinking two thousand
[5:56] Speaker 1: days ago, very close to two thousand days ago. And
[6:00] Speaker 1: in that time, you know, I tried to pick up
[6:03] Speaker 1: hobbies to fill that time. And I was back in
[6:07] Speaker 1: Australia and I opened up an old folder and had
[6:09] Speaker 1: all the Norcinny Bears cards and had the Gary Lars
[6:13] Speaker 1: and Billy Moore and Greg Florimo and Brett Dallas and
[6:16] Speaker 1: all these things. Right, Greg Florimo is my hero.
[6:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, great tackler.
[6:20] Speaker 1: I wrote him. I wrote him two letters when I
[6:22] Speaker 1: was a kid, and he never responded back. And then
[6:24] Speaker 1: one time I was chatting in front of the Bears
[6:26] Speaker 1: and he was in the audience, and I said, and
[6:28] Speaker 1: he never fucking wrote back to me. And I go
[6:31] Speaker 1: back to my seat and there was a little note
[6:32] Speaker 1: that just said I've written back to you. Now you're happy,
[6:35] Speaker 1: Greg Floria. And so I looked at all those cards,
[6:40] Speaker 1: and then I bought my son some baseball cards, and
[6:44] Speaker 1: then I got mad into that. You know, that's something
[6:46] Speaker 1: to do on the road, go to card shops and
[6:48] Speaker 1: stuff like that. And it's actually the top five hundred
[6:53] Speaker 1: sports cards in the world. If you bought all of them,
[6:56] Speaker 1: you would be up this year twenty nine percent. Wow
[7:00] Speaker 1: your portfolio, you know you bought all the Mickey mantles
[7:02] Speaker 1: and this and that. Like it's it's going through the roof.
[7:04] Speaker 1: And the Hobby's just going to get bigger because now
[7:07] Speaker 1: they've opened a fanatic store, which is Tops in Leicester Square.
[7:12] Speaker 1: They've opened a PSA, which is the people who register
[7:14] Speaker 1: the cards, who grade the cards. They've opened up a
[7:17] Speaker 1: grade in company quality. Yeah. Yeah, they actually put them
[7:20] Speaker 1: in the plastic slabs and they go, this one's at ten,
[7:22] Speaker 1: this one's Anne. They've opened up that in Frankfurt. Asia
[7:24] Speaker 1: is going mad for it because of shohe Tani and
[7:26] Speaker 1: all that type of stuff. But the story is this,
[7:28] Speaker 1: so at Christmas the hobby boxes now it's not the
[7:31] Speaker 1: same as buying a packet in the saw with a
[7:34] Speaker 1: stick of gum and you pay a dollar and then
[7:36] Speaker 1: you try to get the cards. Now there's like chase cards,
[7:39] Speaker 1: there's rare cards. There's cards that were millions of dollars. Right,
[7:44] Speaker 1: So a hobby box will cost anywhere between six hundred
[7:47] Speaker 1: and two thousand dollars for a box of cards that
[7:51] Speaker 1: used to be would have cost thirty dollars when we
[7:53] Speaker 1: we get six hundred thousand bucks. So I bought my
[7:57] Speaker 1: son and me one for Christmas each. And it's straight up.
[8:01] Speaker 2: Gambling, but it's a surprise. You don't know what's in it.
[8:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not in there. It's straight up gaming. It's
[8:05] Speaker 1: tearing packs, looking at cards hoping you get something, hoping
[8:08] Speaker 1: you get saying you can make money off sports cards
[8:10] Speaker 1: through buying cards and looking at the market and seeing
[8:13] Speaker 1: where that card might go, and being strategical and buying
[8:16] Speaker 1: Michael Jordan cards over the net. That the new is fad,
[8:19] Speaker 1: you know. But the boxes, it's it's gambling. It's you're
[8:23] Speaker 1: opening up every it's the reveal of the unknown, and
[8:27] Speaker 1: it's the excitement. So a box, the six hundred dollar
[8:29] Speaker 1: box is always going to give you three hundred dollars
[8:31] Speaker 1: back in cards, but you might get a card that's
[8:33] Speaker 1: worth a thousand, makes two thousand backs whatever. So we
[8:36] Speaker 1: open our two boxes at Christmas and in fucking dust,
[8:39] Speaker 1: might as well come out of these boxes. Nothing. There
[8:41] Speaker 1: was nothing going on in these boxes. And I had
[8:43] Speaker 1: one more box I was going to take on the
[8:44] Speaker 1: road with me or something. And my son was he
[8:47] Speaker 1: was going back to school, and I was like, okay,
[8:51] Speaker 1: let's talk and when we tear open the boxes we
[8:53] Speaker 1: have a bit more of a chat, you know what
[8:55] Speaker 1: I mean. So it's a good way to bond with him.
[8:58] Speaker 1: And I said, all right, let's open up box and
[9:01] Speaker 1: you have half the cards. I'll have half the cards,
[9:04] Speaker 1: and you know, let's talk about you going back to school. Right,
[9:07] Speaker 1: And I've I've told him the whole time, you can
[9:09] Speaker 1: never make me. We pulled a super fractor, one of
[9:14] Speaker 1: one Lebron James Helix that was a fifty six thousand
[9:18] Speaker 1: dollars card. No, yeah, we put like out of the
[9:20] Speaker 1: thing and I was like, and then that was in
[9:23] Speaker 1: my pole. Thank god I didn't give it to him,
[9:25] Speaker 1: right it Thank god that wasn't in his pile, because
[9:28] Speaker 1: if that was in his pile, how could I teach
[9:30] Speaker 1: a little bastard the value of a dollar or go
[9:32] Speaker 1: to school, or make him to go to McDonald's to
[9:34] Speaker 1: get a job, you know, to learn how to work
[9:37] Speaker 1: when he's just got a fit so much for you?
[9:39] Speaker 1: Yeah so so, but in that box he also pulled
[9:43] Speaker 1: a Cooper flag card worth five thousand dollars. So it
[9:48] Speaker 1: all worked that well. But like, so now I think
[9:50] Speaker 1: I've talked my son gambling, like I think I've really
[9:53] Speaker 1: screwed with him, because he just it happened, like I remember.
[9:55] Speaker 2: That stories that store might be lucky one the story
[9:58] Speaker 2: he bought it.
[9:58] Speaker 1: I bought that box of febae. Ah. Yeah, so that
[10:01] Speaker 1: one just came in. But it was.
[10:02] Speaker 2: A mystery box. You had to know that.
[10:04] Speaker 1: All of the mystery box you don't know it. Yeah,
[10:05] Speaker 1: And as you said, my son, now he sells merch
[10:08] Speaker 1: for me. So I have a I have a thing
[10:11] Speaker 1: in my show that if you go and see, I
[10:13] Speaker 1: have groups of people. Right, I categorize everybody in the
[10:17] Speaker 1: world into five different groups, and those groups are good
[10:21] Speaker 1: looking men, good looking women, ugly men, and ugly women.
[10:24] Speaker 1: And then group five is old, right, and group five
[10:27] Speaker 1: is just the other four groups meshed into a Morpheus
[10:30] Speaker 1: blob of unfuckable shit. You're old, that's it, right, we
[10:33] Speaker 1: all know how the world works, right. These are very
[10:36] Speaker 1: broad strokes as well. And then I say, look, you
[10:38] Speaker 1: know who's group number one? So I say group number
[10:40] Speaker 1: one is good looking women, Group number two is good
[10:42] Speaker 1: looking man. And then I go through all the so
[10:44] Speaker 1: I sell the group T shirts on the stand. Now
[10:47] Speaker 1: before you go into the show. You're never going to
[10:49] Speaker 1: buy one of those T shirts. You are not going
[10:51] Speaker 1: to buy one of those T shirts because you don't
[10:52] Speaker 1: know what it means. It just looks like a footy
[10:54] Speaker 1: jersey with a number in my name over the top, right,
[10:57] Speaker 1: And you're never going to buy it. And then I
[10:59] Speaker 1: tell the joke. People buy them. On the way out.
[11:01] Speaker 1: I said, look, here's the deal, right. I don't want
[11:05] Speaker 1: you to go buy an ugly woman T shirt or
[11:07] Speaker 1: an ugly man T shirt or a good looking woman
[11:09] Speaker 1: T shirt. You can choose whatever T shirt you want.
[11:12] Speaker 1: They say, oh, my thirteen son, thirteen year old son
[11:17] Speaker 1: is working the stand out there, and he can choose
[11:19] Speaker 1: for you.
[11:21] Speaker 2: Right, because he doesn't sell one or the other. He
[11:23] Speaker 2: sells it all. He sells all how you qualifyself.
[11:27] Speaker 1: And they walk up and he looks them up and down,
[11:30] Speaker 1: and I'll give you a good looking woman T shirt.
[11:32] Speaker 1: I'll give you. But men don't mind getting an ugly
[11:35] Speaker 1: T shirt. They wear it with a bit of respect,
[11:37] Speaker 1: you know. But I said, just try to be kind
[11:39] Speaker 1: to the women. And I go and I go, and
[11:41] Speaker 1: if you give a group five which is old, I
[11:43] Speaker 1: make sure they're really old. He goes oh, so a
[11:46] Speaker 1: bit older than you. No, really like granddad, like granddad.
[11:50] Speaker 1: They have to be granddad's age. No, it needs to
[11:53] Speaker 1: be like you want to make people feel eighty, you
[11:57] Speaker 1: need to be eighty before you hand them a Group
[11:59] Speaker 1: five T shirt. The eighty year olds aren't under any illusions.
[12:02] Speaker 1: I spy now that I find some seven year old
[12:04] Speaker 1: still think they look very young, and they probably do.
[12:07] Speaker 2: When I think about especially America, well, when I.
[12:09] Speaker 1: Think back to my grandmother died at seventy three, and
[12:13] Speaker 1: at the time I thought she looked like a hundred.
[12:15] Speaker 1: And then I looked at a photo the other day
[12:17] Speaker 1: and she did. She looked like one hundred. Rights people
[12:20] Speaker 1: are aging a lot better. I don't know. You're on
[12:22] Speaker 1: the peptides? What do you do?
[12:24] Speaker 2: What do you how are you keeping it Together's genetics?
[12:26] Speaker 2: Well man died in ninety. See it went pretty good
[12:28] Speaker 2: to ninety and mum was eighty six. I think it's genetics.
[12:31] Speaker 2: I don't even all have peptide Suscle bullshit.
[12:33] Speaker 1: I haven't done peptides or anything like that.
[12:35] Speaker 2: But Americans are all over it.
[12:36] Speaker 1: They they yeah, that is like on every shop corner,
[12:39] Speaker 1: every sort of skin salon, type of place peptide parties.
[12:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't go and have cocaine parties anymore.
[12:47] Speaker 1: Or get the peer. They're all pepti parties or parties
[12:50] Speaker 1: in Hollywood. They're mad for the peptides.
[12:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, a California, San Francisco, like all the tech people
[12:56] Speaker 2: or the tech bros. Plenty of money.
[12:57] Speaker 1: Then you and then you choose the peptides that you
[12:59] Speaker 1: want that's particular to you. And then it's like, how
[13:03] Speaker 1: many women have I met in LA And I'm not
[13:06] Speaker 1: only saying this because these who I've had the interactions with.
[13:09] Speaker 1: I'm sure there's men like this as well who are
[13:13] Speaker 1: vegan yoga plates and peptides and saunas. Right, So you're
[13:19] Speaker 1: vegan because I don't want to put poison in my
[13:21] Speaker 1: body and know the thing, and then I want to
[13:23] Speaker 1: have a natural way, and I want to breathe around.
[13:24] Speaker 1: I want to go to a resort and I'm going
[13:26] Speaker 1: to go to a sauna and then and then what's
[13:28] Speaker 1: in this peptide? No one knows. Right, they're straight in
[13:32] Speaker 1: with it, right because of course they're going to inject themselves.
[13:35] Speaker 1: Because anything that's the elixir of young I've done. I've
[13:38] Speaker 1: done ozambic before I did a movie. I did it
[13:41] Speaker 1: for three months before a move.
[13:42] Speaker 2: To lose weight.
[13:43] Speaker 1: To lose weight, Yeah, I did it.
[13:44] Speaker 2: What was effect part losing weight? Did you feel anything else?
[13:48] Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved it. It was the most
[13:51] Speaker 1: I struggle with food every day. I think about food
[13:54] Speaker 1: every day. And then, you know, one of my vice,
[13:58] Speaker 1: especially since giving up alcohol, is is you know, I'll
[14:01] Speaker 1: have a little bit of THC and then I'll just
[14:05] Speaker 1: shovel food. Right, that's my that's my favorite night in
[14:10] Speaker 1: you know, if you so? The problem with alcohol was
[14:16] Speaker 1: alcohol is a confidence Cocaine is a confidence drug. Right.
[14:20] Speaker 1: I don't think I could have a happy marriage with
[14:22] Speaker 1: those drugs in my system. I'd do something stupid. I'd
[14:25] Speaker 1: have an affair or something. I'd go out, I do
[14:27] Speaker 1: something stupid. Right. A lot of people go with weed.
[14:29] Speaker 1: They go, oh, I don't like weed. It makes me paranoid.
[14:33] Speaker 1: That's what I love about it, right, paranoid people don't
[14:38] Speaker 1: make mistakes. Keep you under paranoid. People sit in the
[14:41] Speaker 1: corner and go better not say anything stupid. I used
[14:44] Speaker 1: to say stupid things and do stupid things all the time,
[14:46] Speaker 1: and now I'm too paranoid to do stupid things bring
[14:49] Speaker 1: on the paranoia. But what I what I loved about
[14:53] Speaker 1: Monjarro or that's the one I took. I say ZMP
[14:56] Speaker 1: because thing but I was on Manjaro. What I liked
[14:59] Speaker 1: about it is it takes away impulse and so I
[15:03] Speaker 1: never felt more in control. It wasn't that I felt full.
[15:07] Speaker 1: I just looked at food and was like whatever. And
[15:10] Speaker 1: so you know, also like I'm not a huge gambler,
[15:14] Speaker 1: but I didn't feel like doing that either, didn't.
[15:16] Speaker 2: Just I took it away abata. Generally, it took.
[15:18] Speaker 1: Away any urge, took away urgent sex from it. Sex
[15:23] Speaker 1: was good. I look in that time, I did kill
[15:26] Speaker 1: six women, which was down from my normal amount. A
[15:32] Speaker 1: man was the joke works either way anyway, So I yees.
[15:36] Speaker 1: Everything was down, so when I want to have okay,
[15:40] Speaker 1: So with the Manjaro. As soon as I ended that,
[15:43] Speaker 1: I remember I had two more injections. They were a
[15:46] Speaker 1: week in injection, and I thought I'll save them for
[15:49] Speaker 1: some time. I just need to drop five pounds because
[15:51] Speaker 1: what it does is it takes away life sparkle. That's
[15:54] Speaker 1: why I like depressure a bit, not depressed, just everything
[16:00] Speaker 1: which is a fun things that you're like, oh, I
[16:02] Speaker 1: really want to have that. I want to eat a dessert, right,
[16:06] Speaker 1: and when you look at it size of cheesecake and
[16:08] Speaker 1: you go, na, what life is that? Yeah?
[16:11] Speaker 2: Totally. It takes all your urges away, they get genuinely,
[16:13] Speaker 2: but for.
[16:14] Speaker 1: Me, it took it took away impulses, right, and so
[16:17] Speaker 1: so it was good. I was working on a movie.
[16:20] Speaker 1: I could focus just on acting and lines and stuff
[16:22] Speaker 1: like that. And normally I was worrying about my weight
[16:26] Speaker 1: and how I was looking, and doing silly things before
[16:28] Speaker 1: I get on set, like putting my face in buckets
[16:30] Speaker 1: of ice water. You know that's an old Hollywood trick. Yeah,
[16:35] Speaker 1: you smash your face and it does, and your whole
[16:36] Speaker 1: face got before the scene you go, all right, I'm
[16:39] Speaker 1: good to go action, you know. But yeah, no, it
[16:43] Speaker 1: was I would do it again. And I know now
[16:47] Speaker 1: that people are going, oh, they might be side effects
[16:50] Speaker 1: or whatever. When people say izembic face, when someone has
[16:53] Speaker 1: like their face has gone gaunt, that person has an
[16:55] Speaker 1: ozembic face. It's not an ozmpic face. It's i've gotten
[16:58] Speaker 1: thin really quickly face. Yeah, it's not because of the drug.
[17:02] Speaker 1: If anyone gets really really you know, you've never seen
[17:05] Speaker 1: someone who's gone on a starvation strike and gook a
[17:08] Speaker 1: zembic face. Yeah, I've gotten in too quickly.
[17:11] Speaker 2: You'll be living in America now, how many years?
[17:13] Speaker 1: Eighteen years?
[17:15] Speaker 2: Live in the States, Like I mean, like Trump.
[17:17] Speaker 1: And America right now? Is it's like being on a
[17:22] Speaker 1: roller coaster that you're strapped into. The roller coaster has
[17:26] Speaker 1: left the station. You're going up the click click click
[17:29] Speaker 1: click clickit and you're starting to like that, and then
[17:32] Speaker 1: half the people on the roller coaster going, let me off,
[17:35] Speaker 1: let me off. I don't want to be on this,
[17:36] Speaker 1: and I don't want to be let me off this,
[17:38] Speaker 1: and the other half of the people in the roller
[17:39] Speaker 1: coaster a going how good. Yeah, And we're all going
[17:43] Speaker 1: to end up at the same spot in three years
[17:45] Speaker 1: and then we'll figure it out again and then we'll
[17:47] Speaker 1: get on the roller coaster again.
[17:48] Speaker 2: So is that volatile? Literally?
[17:50] Speaker 1: Okay? So I will say this about I'm more. I'm
[17:57] Speaker 1: I'm considered crazy left wing in America because as I
[18:00] Speaker 1: believe in save schools and healthcare, you know, people not
[18:05] Speaker 1: getting shot in healthcare, which healthcare I might as well
[18:08] Speaker 1: be saying. And I'm a communist, right, I believe in
[18:11] Speaker 1: socialist governments to it. I believe in helping our welfest welfare.
[18:15] Speaker 1: I believe in the welfare system. But in Australia, I'm
[18:18] Speaker 1: quite i'd be considered right wing. I'm tough on crime.
[18:24] Speaker 1: I not that I'm tough on I'd like people to
[18:26] Speaker 1: be tough on crime. I don't stop it. I don't
[18:29] Speaker 1: believe in illegal immigration. I think the term illegal is
[18:34] Speaker 1: in there. I don't think we're and so we live
[18:36] Speaker 1: on an island where that's a lot easier to police
[18:39] Speaker 1: than a border with another country. But what's going on
[18:45] Speaker 1: with ice and everything in America, that's real. This isn't
[18:50] Speaker 1: like stuff you're seeing on TV and going going, oh,
[18:54] Speaker 1: this is cherry picked little moments. It's real. So just
[18:58] Speaker 1: for instance, when at first started happening, I went to
[19:02] Speaker 1: my car wash. The whole place is shut down. All
[19:05] Speaker 1: the workers had scattered out because the ice had walked
[19:08] Speaker 1: into there. I know comedians who are Mexican or Mexican descent.
[19:14] Speaker 1: They their shows were getting less people because ice were
[19:18] Speaker 1: waiting in the car park, because they knew this would
[19:20] Speaker 1: be a mass gathering of Mexican people. So I don't
[19:25] Speaker 1: have a problem with getting rid of illegal immigrants. But
[19:28] Speaker 1: there has the problem is that they're picking on a
[19:31] Speaker 1: certain race of people. They're not going after all illegal immigrants.
[19:35] Speaker 1: They're only going after the brown ones, the South Americans
[19:38] Speaker 1: and the Middle of American that's all they're doing. And
[19:40] Speaker 1: I know this because one of my good friends in
[19:44] Speaker 1: Australia in America is an Australian bloke who's outstate his
[19:48] Speaker 1: visa for a couple of years and he's not worried
[19:50] Speaker 1: at all. You know, he's not. We're walking down the street,
[19:55] Speaker 1: we're watching a Mexican being dragged off a pole by
[19:57] Speaker 1: two ICE agents and he jokingly went, you need any help, boys,
[20:02] Speaker 1: because you knew that you haven't seen a Swedish backpacker
[20:06] Speaker 1: being dragged down the street by her platts, going it's
[20:10] Speaker 1: never happened. It's not there, find me the footage. It's
[20:15] Speaker 1: it's they're going after one. But it's full racist, it's
[20:17] Speaker 1: it's a I believe it's saying for I don't believe.
[20:21] Speaker 1: I don't believe that inherently people who work for ICE
[20:24] Speaker 1: are racist. I would hate to put that over the
[20:27] Speaker 1: whole group of people. There's probably a lot of people
[20:29] Speaker 1: there who are working for the right reasons and stuff
[20:31] Speaker 1: like that, and it's probably a very tough job, but
[20:35] Speaker 1: I believe they've been given a mandate, which isn't fair.
[20:39] Speaker 2: I was I was looking something I can't remember. I
[20:41] Speaker 2: saw it. Saw you're doing this talking about America and
[20:44] Speaker 2: what goes on America. And I saw you're saying that
[20:50] Speaker 2: you don't mind when people convert from being heterosexual timosexual,
[20:57] Speaker 2: but not the other way around. I think the other
[20:59] Speaker 2: way around. But like, but I just didn't quite understand
[21:02] Speaker 2: what was the point you're trying to make.
[21:04] Speaker 1: What was the point is it?
[21:05] Speaker 2: American?
[21:05] Speaker 1: Is nothing with American. That's just the I saw about
[21:08] Speaker 1: gay conversion therapy.
[21:09] Speaker 2: That's it gay conversion.
[21:11] Speaker 1: They gay conversion conversion therapy, which is done mostly in
[21:14] Speaker 1: the South, is where you pray, pray, pray into south
[21:17] Speaker 1: of where we're in the South of America, like Alabama
[21:21] Speaker 1: and stuff. It's in churches, Baptist churches and stuff like that,
[21:24] Speaker 1: and it's where it's where they try to convert people
[21:27] Speaker 1: from being gata straight. And I don't agree with that,
[21:29] Speaker 1: but I do agree with being converted from straight to gay.
[21:32] Speaker 1: I just think it would have saved me a lot
[21:33] Speaker 1: of time. A lot of money, I'd have an extra house.
[21:36] Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much.
[21:38] Speaker 2: A would mean Mike has out of a few extra
[21:40] Speaker 2: houses I got to But a conversion therapy is that
[21:43] Speaker 2: a thing in the United States?
[21:44] Speaker 1: Is it? Like really? Yes, Yes, there's there's gay conversion therapy.
[21:47] Speaker 2: Yes that's happening, but it's for real, not undercover or whatever.
[21:49] Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, there's that's really good. There's a
[21:53] Speaker 1: really good Russell Crow Timothy shallow May movie where Russell
[21:59] Speaker 1: plays his father and it's a true story and it's
[22:03] Speaker 1: called about the Boy or you'll be abule to find
[22:07] Speaker 1: it out pretty quickly, but that's a true story about
[22:09] Speaker 1: a Baptist minister who had a son who was gay
[22:11] Speaker 1: and they kept on going to the conversion therapy and
[22:14] Speaker 1: all that type of stuff. And there's a documentary on Netflix,
[22:21] Speaker 1: and I'm correct me if it's wrong, but that's the
[22:23] Speaker 1: best documentary to watch it. It's called Maybe Pray Away
[22:26] Speaker 1: or something like that, and it's all about the whole
[22:30] Speaker 1: There was a whole company that used to, you know,
[22:33] Speaker 1: get kids and they'd all sing and they'd feel the
[22:35] Speaker 1: voice of God and all the people who were you know,
[22:38] Speaker 1: I used to be a lesbian. But you know that
[22:41] Speaker 1: wasn't right. That was because of something and I wasn't
[22:44] Speaker 1: listening to God right. Every single one of the people
[22:47] Speaker 1: that ran the pray away thing, they all went.
[22:51] Speaker 2: Back to be like an exticism.
[22:52] Speaker 1: They all went back the people who were stopping the
[22:54] Speaker 1: people from being gay, they all went back to gay.
[22:57] Speaker 1: And there's no one left.
[22:58] Speaker 2: Because I know she want picked the YMCA song. Are
[23:02] Speaker 2: you doning to talk about it?
[23:03] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[23:04] Speaker 2: Because like they got some sort of season.
[23:07] Speaker 1: So I got I got told that I was going
[23:09] Speaker 1: to be suit for defamation if I continue to talk
[23:12] Speaker 1: about so. On a podcast with Amos gil my podcast
[23:15] Speaker 1: I do with him called the ATM Podcast, we were
[23:19] Speaker 1: talking about when Trump during the inauguration had the village
[23:23] Speaker 1: people play the YMCA and he did that dance. It
[23:26] Speaker 1: looks like he's winking too cocks off to his face,
[23:29] Speaker 1: and I said, I said, isn't it funny that all
[23:32] Speaker 1: these evangelical Christians are dancing to the YMCA song about
[23:36] Speaker 1: men bumming in the showers? Right, That's that's what it was,
[23:39] Speaker 1: young man. If you're down on your dough, there's a
[23:41] Speaker 1: place you can go. You can get yourself clean, you
[23:42] Speaker 1: can have a good meal. You can do whatever you feel,
[23:44] Speaker 1: I said, young man, don't you listening. It's it's probably
[23:48] Speaker 1: more about teenage male prostitution, if we're to be correct anyway,
[23:52] Speaker 1: So I said that the MSA was about homosexuality, and
[23:57] Speaker 1: then the next day I get a letter from Lady
[23:59] Speaker 1: Could Karen Willis. And Karen Willis is a lawyer, but
[24:02] Speaker 1: she's married to Victor Willis. And Victor Willis is the
[24:04] Speaker 1: cop from the Village People, And before that he was
[24:07] Speaker 1: married to Felicia Rashad. Right, So who was missus Huxtable
[24:10] Speaker 1: from the Cosby Show? So she she hangs out with
[24:13] Speaker 1: the best guy than she And so what happened there
[24:16] Speaker 1: was Victor's not gay. Victor writes most of the songs.
[24:20] Speaker 1: But yeah, surely he knew about the others, right, Surely
[24:24] Speaker 1: surely he turned around occasionally and saw the biker in
[24:27] Speaker 1: the leather chaps, you know who incidentally died from AIDS
[24:30] Speaker 1: in the nineties. Right, the band was a gay band.
[24:34] Speaker 1: I always like that about them, that they were fun
[24:36] Speaker 1: and campy and all that type of stuff. And as
[24:38] Speaker 1: a kid, you could watch him. Guy, he's brilliant, all
[24:40] Speaker 1: dressed in different outfits and you know, they were never
[24:43] Speaker 1: in your face about it. They were just disco music
[24:45] Speaker 1: and good music as well, you know. So so I
[24:49] Speaker 1: get this ease and assists that I ring her up
[24:51] Speaker 1: and a lot of stuff. Now, sadly, at the time
[24:55] Speaker 1: right now, I don't know when this is being released,
[24:57] Speaker 1: but sadly, whilst I was flying over to Australia, Victor
[25:01] Speaker 1: Willis suddenly died. The cop from the Village People has
[25:06] Speaker 1: just passed away. So you know, case closed, I guess,
[25:10] Speaker 1: but you know, I kind of enjoyed, say, I ring
[25:14] Speaker 1: Karen up, and I go, I go get a Karen.
[25:17] Speaker 1: I said, I don't want to, you know, be any trouble,
[25:19] Speaker 1: and she goes, you can't go wrong, go around seeing
[25:22] Speaker 1: that the WAYMCA is about men banging in the showers,
[25:25] Speaker 1: and I said, bonging in the showers? I said, bumming, Karen,
[25:29] Speaker 1: And she goes, what is bumming me? And I said,
[25:31] Speaker 1: if you don't know what that means, why the fuck
[25:32] Speaker 1: are you suing me? And I said, I said, I've
[25:34] Speaker 1: always liked that it was a gay anthem, and she went,
[25:36] Speaker 1: your rate, it is a gay anthem, but it's also
[25:39] Speaker 1: a Burmetz for anthem. A wedding anthem or high school
[25:42] Speaker 1: graduation ant them. It's whatever anthem you want it to be,
[25:46] Speaker 1: and I was like, I want it to be the
[25:47] Speaker 1: gay one right now. I do have some remorse about
[25:52] Speaker 1: this because I didn't know that Bigdgg had an illness
[25:54] Speaker 1: where he died quite quickly. Because whilst I was had
[25:58] Speaker 1: this season assist let Donald Trump came out and said,
[26:03] Speaker 1: I can't do the impersonation. But he said, he said, ah,
[26:07] Speaker 1: I did great with the gays. I did great with
[26:09] Speaker 1: the gay vote because I kept on playing the gay
[26:11] Speaker 1: national anthem right now. The reason that victim wanted to
[26:15] Speaker 1: sue me was because he was getting all that mag
[26:17] Speaker 1: of money and he wanted to distance himself from the
[26:19] Speaker 1: homosexual part.
[26:20] Speaker 2: Of Oh Wow, right.
[26:21] Speaker 1: So he's like, no, none of the songs are about homosexuality.
[26:24] Speaker 1: And then Trump goes and calls it the gay national anthem.
[26:27] Speaker 1: So I did ring up Karen and go I just
[26:30] Speaker 1: want to talk about and she hung up on me.
[26:33] Speaker 1: And now I don't know, I don't know if he
[26:35] Speaker 1: was sick then or anything. I hope not. I hope
[26:36] Speaker 1: I wasn't causing any trouble to her day because I look,
[26:41] Speaker 1: she's they sent me the letter. It's being told that
[26:44] Speaker 1: you're going to be sued for saying that the village
[26:48] Speaker 1: people are gain is the equivalent of being sued for
[26:51] Speaker 1: saying that water is wet.
[26:53] Speaker 2: And the defense would be what they call the truth defense.
[26:56] Speaker 2: And then all you have to do is prove that
[26:58] Speaker 2: that it's the truth and you're not. You're not going
[27:00] Speaker 2: to be suit famation.
[27:02] Speaker 1: But also it's ard it's open to interpretation, so I said,
[27:06] Speaker 1: So I said, well, okay, okay, find that YMCA isn't
[27:10] Speaker 1: about homosexuality. I don't want to get sued. I said,
[27:12] Speaker 1: but in the Navy, you've got to give me in
[27:14] Speaker 1: the navy. You can't give me in the navy. And
[27:17] Speaker 1: she goes, in the navy's just about men joining the navy,
[27:20] Speaker 1: and I said, I know. One of the lyrics is
[27:21] Speaker 1: we need more seamen, like what are we doing? What
[27:24] Speaker 1: are we doing? Like I'm not I'm not over faving.
[27:27] Speaker 1: I got no pride. And you know what, because I
[27:30] Speaker 1: had that phone call with her, and I wanted to
[27:31] Speaker 1: get lyrics from songs and stuff like that, and I
[27:34] Speaker 1: wanted to actually have a you know, a conversation with her,
[27:37] Speaker 1: and I wanted to be prepared that week. I said,
[27:40] Speaker 1: I'm listening to the village people and then it hasn't
[27:44] Speaker 1: stopped since I had listened to the village people in
[27:47] Speaker 1: thirty years.
[27:48] Speaker 2: And I was like, I think they're great.
[27:49] Speaker 1: Though they're great, they had more hits than you thought.
[27:53] Speaker 1: I come out on stage now to Macho Man, Pase
[27:56] Speaker 1: loses their shit. I walk up to the microphone a
[27:59] Speaker 1: bit that goes, hey, hey, hey, hey hey, it's just
[28:03] Speaker 1: it builds up the whole audience, right, And it's just
[28:06] Speaker 1: and that that's another one that's just a video clip
[28:09] Speaker 1: of men just doing arm curls, right, shirtless men. And
[28:13] Speaker 1: I said, come on, Macho Man's pretty gay carry and
[28:15] Speaker 1: she goes, that's I go. I go, what's that about?
[28:17] Speaker 1: She goes, that's just about men working out in the gym?
[28:20] Speaker 1: And I said, what about the women. There's no women
[28:22] Speaker 1: in the song, and she goes, women didn't work out
[28:24] Speaker 1: in the gym's in the seventies.
[28:26] Speaker 2: It's good, it's for me, But why do you think
[28:28] Speaker 2: Trump chooses You're an observeranty?
[28:31] Speaker 1: It's Trump's favorite song, and by tune by tune, by tune,
[28:36] Speaker 1: it's his favorite song that when he was in nightclubs
[28:38] Speaker 1: and stuff, because you could do a dance with it. Yeah, right,
[28:42] Speaker 1: And he said on a few podcasts they said, oh,
[28:44] Speaker 1: what gets people out in the dance for you? Because
[28:46] Speaker 1: the WYMSA, it's a great song, great song, the WYMCA,
[28:49] Speaker 1: that's the best one. This type of stuff. And I
[28:53] Speaker 1: hear the winems is mentioned on the Epstein Files like
[28:58] Speaker 1: forty seven. No I just made that up. I can
[29:01] Speaker 1: imagine him and Bill Gates and Stephen Hawking's swirling around
[29:05] Speaker 1: and the thing all dancing to it. But yeah, no
[29:08] Speaker 1: I I he says, that's look Donald Trump, he liked
[29:15] Speaker 1: meeting women and going out and stuff, and he reckons
[29:17] Speaker 1: that's the song that gets everyone out in the dance floor.
[29:19] Speaker 2: So well, it's interesting you should say it because as
[29:21] Speaker 2: you're talking about president's, prime ministers and famous people, I'm
[29:25] Speaker 2: thinking about our promise and more recently being asked a
[29:28] Speaker 2: question about would call him and ogue I run a
[29:32] Speaker 2: birch more somebody else.
[29:33] Speaker 1: I just did Nicky Osborne's pot I did the next podcast.
[29:35] Speaker 1: I don't have it, so I didn't, And so I
[29:38] Speaker 1: was just talking to Nicky so she's.
[29:40] Speaker 2: Like she's got him good.
[29:42] Speaker 1: I don't know if it's okay. I'm not. I'm not.
[29:47] Speaker 1: I can't vote in this country because I'm not a resident,
[29:49] Speaker 1: so I don't have any skin in the game as much.
[29:52] Speaker 1: But you know, I watched your podcast with Dave Fuse
[29:56] Speaker 1: and we'll go back to the Kylie thing in a second. Right.
[29:59] Speaker 1: I I agree with Dave, Right, I agree the taxes
[30:02] Speaker 1: have gone too high. I believe the income tax that
[30:05] Speaker 1: that that that that taxing capital gains before that money
[30:10] Speaker 1: has been acquiet is the same as going to a
[30:11] Speaker 1: blackjack table and after every hand is nicking a bit,
[30:14] Speaker 1: but I haven't left the table yet. Ah yeah, but
[30:16] Speaker 1: you're doing all right, right. And the one like inheritance tax,
[30:22] Speaker 1: that's crazy, that money's already been taxed, and they do
[30:25] Speaker 1: that one in America as well, right, But the other one,
[30:27] Speaker 1: the capital gains on they don't. They don't do. But
[30:29] Speaker 1: what I find weird is whenever, like Dave Hugh speaks
[30:34] Speaker 1: up and he was getting abused online, abused, stay in
[30:37] Speaker 1: your lane, stay in your life, what is exactly staying
[30:41] Speaker 1: And you're like, you're a comedian, Well he was. He
[30:43] Speaker 1: wasn't funny in your interview. He was talking about it.
[30:47] Speaker 1: We have freedom of speech with this is the thing.
[30:51] Speaker 1: No one stays in their lane anymore. Right. I used
[30:54] Speaker 1: to be able to go before a show and think
[30:56] Speaker 1: that went well, and now I have to hear from
[30:57] Speaker 1: everyone whether they.
[30:58] Speaker 2: Liked it or not.
[30:59] Speaker 1: That was shit, that was good, This was right. Everyone
[31:01] Speaker 1: gives opinions on fucking everything. You would never tell a
[31:05] Speaker 1: lawyer or an accountant or a baker or a plumber
[31:08] Speaker 1: stay in your lane. Right. And also, so you just
[31:13] Speaker 1: saying stay in your lane to another human is not
[31:16] Speaker 1: them staying in their lane. If you're a plumber and
[31:18] Speaker 1: you're like going, you shouldn't comment on fucking politics. You
[31:21] Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about. This should you by
[31:24] Speaker 1: the same fucking thing. You're not apologic. We're all going
[31:27] Speaker 1: to make comments moving forward. And so I like the
[31:30] Speaker 1: fact that he put his balls out there and he
[31:32] Speaker 1: was passionate about something. And if people want to call
[31:35] Speaker 1: him a flog or whatever or this is you know,
[31:37] Speaker 1: it's very difficult to make change people's minds. But I'm
[31:41] Speaker 1: on team Hughes for that one. Now, going back to
[31:43] Speaker 1: the Kylie minogue of the whole thing. I'm not a
[31:47] Speaker 1: big elbow guy, right, but I respect the office you know,
[31:50] Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go play some cricket there for
[31:55] Speaker 1: the celebrity cricket game. Care I'm well up for it, right,
[32:01] Speaker 1: I will stick up for ourbo on this one. What
[32:03] Speaker 1: was he meant to say? What was his other option? Was?
[32:06] Speaker 1: His other option was no, I wouldn't fuck Kylie? Right,
[32:11] Speaker 1: you could get sleep Mary kill. I'd shag Kylie. I
[32:14] Speaker 1: don't know if you said the term shagged. Yeah, shag
[32:16] Speaker 1: was a word, yeah, shag Kylee. She she used the
[32:19] Speaker 1: word shag, Yeah, yeah, shag Mary kill? And he goes
[32:22] Speaker 1: shag Kylie? What was his other option? I wouldn't shag
[32:25] Speaker 1: any of them? That's what? Is that? What you want
[32:27] Speaker 1: to hear? You want to hear like like, we want
[32:29] Speaker 1: our politicians to be more personal, We want them to
[32:32] Speaker 1: be people that we can relate to. We've all played
[32:35] Speaker 1: that game, shagg Mary kill. We've all played it. It's
[32:39] Speaker 1: it's a it's a you know, something's been happening for
[32:41] Speaker 1: the last twenty years, is this game that we all
[32:42] Speaker 1: play and has been asking a thousand podcasts? What would
[32:46] Speaker 1: you rather have said? I prefer Danny, you know, or
[32:51] Speaker 1: he could have been really offensive. I would have shaged
[32:53] Speaker 1: Kyllie when she was a bit younger, not now. If
[32:56] Speaker 1: he said that, then the news would have been like
[32:59] Speaker 1: PM says, he wouldn't shag Kylie in current states.
[33:03] Speaker 2: She's too old.
[33:04] Speaker 1: Yeah, he's too old. Anything pasted spinning around that was
[33:09] Speaker 1: her last big song. Yeah, anything past that I wouldn't
[33:12] Speaker 1: go for. But right up from locomotion till then, she
[33:16] Speaker 1: was very shaggable and that periods, so like it. If
[33:22] Speaker 1: he said Randa birch More is the one I said,
[33:25] Speaker 1: I think they would have been a bit more leaning
[33:27] Speaker 1: in on him.
[33:28] Speaker 2: Because she's a bit older.
[33:29] Speaker 1: She's a been older. Yeah, But because he went Kylie,
[33:32] Speaker 1: they went like like I've like people. There's been rumors
[33:37] Speaker 1: about this guy and not being straight and that he
[33:40] Speaker 1: got married quite late in life. There's always rumors.
[33:42] Speaker 2: About about Alba.
[33:43] Speaker 1: Yeah serious, yeah, but there's always online there's rumors about.
[33:48] Speaker 2: Everything female before.
[33:50] Speaker 1: What did that work out? No, I don't think this.
[33:54] Speaker 1: This is not my opinion. I'm just saying you can't win.
[33:58] Speaker 1: You can't win. If the guy said nothing, he would
[34:01] Speaker 1: have been seen as this weak, wishy, washy fella who's
[34:04] Speaker 1: not up.
[34:04] Speaker 2: Avoided the question, not up for a.
[34:06] Speaker 1: Bit of fun. Yeah, right, he does something that's a
[34:09] Speaker 1: bit of fun and this is just people wanting to
[34:11] Speaker 1: pick on nothing. So I'll defend him till the end
[34:14] Speaker 1: on this one. So let's go through it. Let's me
[34:16] Speaker 1: and you, let's do it all right. So so shag
[34:21] Speaker 1: Mary kill? Right, and you've interviewed him right now, you're
[34:26] Speaker 1: gonna have to have sex with him. But we've only
[34:28] Speaker 1: had one female prime minister, so we're going to go
[34:31] Speaker 1: John Howard, Paul Keaton, al Ben Easy, shag Mary kill?
[34:35] Speaker 1: What do you got for me? It's a hard choice,
[34:40] Speaker 1: a hard choice. It's a soft choice. Really in the end,
[34:43] Speaker 1: you need a blue tablet to get it over.
[34:45] Speaker 2: I would definitely be soft, probably probably Johnny Howard.
[34:51] Speaker 1: Johnny Howard's the shagged or I see, I'd married Johnny
[34:54] Speaker 1: because I think he would just have little hobbies and
[34:57] Speaker 1: you'd get to have time.
[35:00] Speaker 2: But I read it just once. You wouldn't have to
[35:02] Speaker 2: worry about it again. Then he wants to watch cricket.
[35:05] Speaker 1: What are you going to marry bloody Keating and sit
[35:07] Speaker 1: around with Keating? Be smart, smart little clocks. I don't
[35:12] Speaker 1: want to look at his grandfather clocks. But but Keating
[35:15] Speaker 1: intellect should be good to be fun, right, so when
[35:18] Speaker 1: you watch the Telly, you can turn to Keating every
[35:20] Speaker 1: now and again and go all right, so you're killing
[35:24] Speaker 1: Alberan easy.
[35:25] Speaker 2: So that's where we know and that's funny, you know
[35:28] Speaker 2: that because it's comedians can get away with so much
[35:33] Speaker 2: that that that that process what you just did, then
[35:36] Speaker 2: you can get away with that. And Nicky was wanting
[35:38] Speaker 2: to get away with too, but just backfight pretty hard
[35:41] Speaker 2: on on the Prime minister. What is it about comedians
[35:44] Speaker 2: when to get away with stuff? For example? But whereas
[35:46] Speaker 2: Carl seven Over can't. He's supposed to be a journalist.
[35:49] Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's a See. I got more troubles when
[35:52] Speaker 1: I had a political talk show because then everyone took
[35:55] Speaker 1: all my jokes very seriously. And then I ceased to
[35:58] Speaker 1: be a comedian and a member of the media, and
[35:59] Speaker 1: that was chart a time and then. But with comedy,
[36:03] Speaker 1: I find the best way to not get canceled is
[36:08] Speaker 1: to flood the market with outrageous statements. Right, So if
[36:12] Speaker 1: someone tries to get you at one point, you go, I.
[36:14] Speaker 2: Did this, this, this, this, this, it's.
[36:16] Speaker 1: Like the thing. Other people would have got in more
[36:17] Speaker 1: trouble for that rugby league thing than I got in
[36:19] Speaker 1: trouble for. But at the end of the days, I'm
[36:22] Speaker 1: a guy, Sez, I'm a and that's always been me
[36:26] Speaker 1: think and I've never marketed myself any differently.
[36:29] Speaker 2: But is it just when there's also you say you
[36:30] Speaker 2: talk about controversial things to like. I mean, I've heard
[36:32] Speaker 2: parts of some of your stuff like Hitler. Some people
[36:35] Speaker 2: you can't do it a Hitler, And I know this
[36:37] Speaker 2: is the most reason too. I don't think you wanted
[36:39] Speaker 2: to have a different name for it.
[36:41] Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to call one of them Hitler. I
[36:43] Speaker 1: was toying around with names for this tour because you
[36:45] Speaker 1: want to get noticed. Now. My tourist called son of
[36:47] Speaker 1: a carp and because my dad's a carp ander. I
[36:50] Speaker 1: do a little bit of religious humor in there and
[36:52] Speaker 1: stuff like that.
[36:52] Speaker 2: I thought there was a pissed from Trump putting that photograph.
[36:55] Speaker 1: Of that's the whole thing I say. When I've got
[36:58] Speaker 1: the angel wings, I that's just a picture of me
[36:59] Speaker 1: being a doctor. But yeah, so I always liked to
[37:04] Speaker 1: I wanted to. I wanted to call my last special
[37:06] Speaker 1: Hitler because I thought it would get noticed Netflix. Netflix.
[37:09] Speaker 1: We ended up on tulimp policy I was toying around
[37:12] Speaker 1: with because of all the controversy that's happening Australia. I
[37:14] Speaker 1: don't have a lot of skin in the game when
[37:16] Speaker 1: it comes to this subject, so I don't want to
[37:18] Speaker 1: be told that I'm saying the wrong hint thing or
[37:20] Speaker 1: any But I got told this would get me in
[37:23] Speaker 1: too much trouble. But I wanted to call the tour
[37:27] Speaker 1: from the River to the Sea word.
[37:32] Speaker 2: This current tour.
[37:35] Speaker 1: I've been told that that way, that way'd happened. We
[37:38] Speaker 1: have a little thing at the beginning of the of
[37:41] Speaker 1: the tour, at the moment where I like to just
[37:45] Speaker 1: take the piss out of little sacred cows just enough
[37:47] Speaker 1: to get in this much trouble. So I do I
[37:50] Speaker 1: do an acknowledgment at the beginning of the show a
[37:53] Speaker 1: voice So there's a voiceover acknowledgment where I got a
[37:56] Speaker 1: voice artist to actually read it out for me, and
[37:58] Speaker 1: it's it's welcome to County, and I go this show
[38:04] Speaker 1: is for past president and emerging Sit back and enjoy
[38:07] Speaker 1: the show.
[38:09] Speaker 2: How to go at enmore.
[38:10] Speaker 1: Oh, it crushes, it crushes every time every time it plays.
[38:15] Speaker 1: I'm getting laughs. I'm not even on the stage. Yet
[38:18] Speaker 1: you know, it's fantastic. It's just an extra routine that
[38:20] Speaker 1: doesn't even you know, I've never been now we getting
[38:24] Speaker 1: into I talked about this just with Nicky as well.
[38:27] Speaker 1: I don't know how I've gotten on this subject, but
[38:31] Speaker 1: I've never I've always thought Welcome to Country was a
[38:34] Speaker 1: bit silly. I just thought it was a bit of
[38:36] Speaker 1: a silly thing. For first, it's one thing to do
[38:38] Speaker 1: before sporting events when there's international people that are coming
[38:41] Speaker 1: in and we want to do it landing knowledgement. But
[38:43] Speaker 1: I work extensively in Canada and they do it a
[38:48] Speaker 1: little bit with the Inuits, and America doesn't do any
[38:51] Speaker 1: any acknowledgements whatsoever of Native American Indians before things or
[38:56] Speaker 1: anything like that. And it's not needed. And the reason
[38:58] Speaker 1: it's not needed, and this will get me in a
[39:00] Speaker 1: probably trouble, but hopefully just a little bit, it's because
[39:07] Speaker 1: they've somewhat fixed it in America and we haven't fixed
[39:11] Speaker 1: it out here. They've made a deal, right we're here
[39:14] Speaker 1: in Australia. We're further back with all becoming one than.
[39:18] Speaker 2: We ever have been, well more so now than ever.
[39:20] Speaker 1: More so now than ever, and we've apologized, and we've
[39:24] Speaker 1: done welcome to country and all type of stuff. You
[39:26] Speaker 1: can only apologize so much. There's like, of course, we
[39:30] Speaker 1: need to remember the Aboriginal's history and we have to
[39:33] Speaker 1: acknowledge the plight that they've been through and the misjusice
[39:38] Speaker 1: that has been given to them. Of course that's a thing,
[39:41] Speaker 1: but we can't doing welcome to country and apologizing is
[39:45] Speaker 1: doing fuck all. It isn't doing anything to fix the situation.
[39:49] Speaker 1: There's not an Aboriginal who sits in the theater of
[39:51] Speaker 1: a comedy show and he's welcome to country and goes.
[39:54] Speaker 2: Oh good, thank god, oh good, this is all feel better.
[39:57] Speaker 1: If you want to fix it, If you want to
[40:00] Speaker 1: fix the issue, compensation is the only way to do it.
[40:04] Speaker 1: In any argument, someone has to have an apology and
[40:08] Speaker 1: then compensation has to be handed over. So if you
[40:12] Speaker 1: want to fix Aboriginal relations in this country, do exactly
[40:16] Speaker 1: what they did in America. Because I work in Indian casinos.
[40:20] Speaker 1: I've worked in over forty Indian casinos all over the
[40:23] Speaker 1: country and they are flourishing.
[40:26] Speaker 2: So how do they compensate them over there?
[40:28] Speaker 1: So on the reservations, you're allowed to build a business
[40:32] Speaker 1: that is tax free. So let's make it even simpler,
[40:36] Speaker 1: no reservations. Let's say any Aboriginal who are one sixteenth
[40:40] Speaker 1: and under don't have to pay tax anymore. If you
[40:43] Speaker 1: open a business, you're tax free. And I believe by
[40:46] Speaker 1: doing this you could probably get rid of twenty government
[40:48] Speaker 1: bodies that are all about helping and fixing the things
[40:50] Speaker 1: and all that type of stuff that we're already paying
[40:52] Speaker 1: money to. Right so, if they can open casinos, shops, whatever,
[40:57] Speaker 1: any business they want to tax.
[40:58] Speaker 2: Tax free, tax free, they're perfect model.
[41:01] Speaker 1: And I don't think and people will call me racist
[41:04] Speaker 1: for saying this. I'm saying that the Aboriginals shouldn't have
[41:07] Speaker 1: to pay taxes. How can that be racist? And then
[41:11] Speaker 1: you go, they could open casinos like the like the
[41:13] Speaker 1: Indians or the Native Americans and the Inuits do in
[41:16] Speaker 1: North America. And then people will say, oh, so you
[41:19] Speaker 1: want to want to push them into gaming. We have
[41:23] Speaker 1: to stop treating them like their children. We have to
[41:27] Speaker 1: go we apologize. Everything was wrong that we did with
[41:30] Speaker 1: the Stolen Generation was one hundred percent wrong. But we
[41:33] Speaker 1: have to move forward to becoming one. And if we
[41:35] Speaker 1: have to do one, there has to be something more
[41:38] Speaker 1: than words, because all we've been doing is.
[41:40] Speaker 2: Bloody words, so we're bullsheating them.
[41:42] Speaker 1: We're just we're product piece. Welcome the country. Here's the thing,
[41:47] Speaker 1: sky writing the words sorry as people walk over the Harvard.
[41:50] Speaker 1: It's all very nice, but it does fuck all. So
[41:55] Speaker 1: just that's the simplest one. That's the simplest one. Just
[41:58] Speaker 1: no more taxes. And if you can't make a go
[42:00] Speaker 1: at it without paying taxes, then we have to work
[42:04] Speaker 1: and figure something else out. Or if you're still because
[42:07] Speaker 1: what we're still going to be angry in another hundred years.
[42:09] Speaker 1: We're going to be angry angry in another one hundred years.
[42:12] Speaker 1: The world is always was going to become a global
[42:14] Speaker 1: place where everyone was going to live. There was no
[42:16] Speaker 1: country that was going to be left on Earth that
[42:18] Speaker 1: one race just existed in and so it wouldn't be
[42:20] Speaker 1: like that now. So the way that it happened sure terrible.
[42:23] Speaker 1: You don't want that. It's a very dark part of
[42:26] Speaker 1: Australia's history and it should have There should be statues
[42:30] Speaker 1: and there should be museums, and it should be taught
[42:32] Speaker 1: in school and we should know about that. But we
[42:34] Speaker 1: have to move forward.
[42:35] Speaker 2: So it's interesting you said something about division, you know,
[42:38] Speaker 2: like the world has sort of become divided a lot,
[42:40] Speaker 2: you know, left right, you know, and just met every
[42:44] Speaker 2: aspect you know, economically everything. Why do you think where
[42:50] Speaker 2: do you think? I mean, you've got kids, young kids.
[42:52] Speaker 2: What do you think of the future for everybody?
[42:55] Speaker 1: I'm not sure. In the AI, I've never really used
[42:59] Speaker 1: AI in any way. I haven't used it to do
[43:02] Speaker 1: the chat GTP or any You don't use it for
[43:04] Speaker 1: anything for shows. I don't use it for anything. I
[43:06] Speaker 1: hardly turn on a computer. I'm a stone age guy, man.
[43:09] Speaker 1: I just you know, I don't really write me Jakes down.
[43:13] Speaker 1: That's just I like to sort of keep in my
[43:16] Speaker 1: own personal world, you know. And I'm worried about what
[43:20] Speaker 1: that will do for jobs because I've seen what that's
[43:22] Speaker 1: doing to the business that I work in, the creators
[43:26] Speaker 1: in acting and movies and stuff like that. And I
[43:28] Speaker 1: can see this is getting worse and worse and worse.
[43:30] Speaker 1: And I know people who are losing their jobs now,
[43:32] Speaker 1: and everyone just going, oh, it's just a tool we're
[43:34] Speaker 1: going to use. And I think, I don't, you know,
[43:38] Speaker 1: will the world become like Terminator? Probably not, but.
[43:42] Speaker 2: Maybe even in a simulation.
[43:45] Speaker 1: Well, yeah, yeah, Like so I just worry about what
[43:49] Speaker 1: jobs will be available from my children, not whether they
[43:53] Speaker 1: will be capable, or whether the industries will get too
[43:56] Speaker 1: competitive for them to whatever, but what jobs will they
[43:59] Speaker 1: actually have? Where were we because because it was it
[44:04] Speaker 1: was easy before? Okay, So so in entertainment, for whatever reason,
[44:10] Speaker 1: entertainers get more trouble for nepotism than any other business. Really, yeah,
[44:15] Speaker 1: whenever you see an actor or something in a movie,
[44:19] Speaker 1: you go ptism. Johnny Depp's daughter, Dakota Fanning, you know
[44:23] Speaker 1: what I mean. You say, oh, the nepotism. Nepotism is
[44:25] Speaker 1: blah blah blahs. Kid, it's darted as kid. Yet if
[44:28] Speaker 1: you see a truck of a plumber and it says
[44:31] Speaker 1: Davis and Sons, you're like, good on him. Got his
[44:34] Speaker 1: bloody boys into the business and they're all bloody working together.
[44:37] Speaker 1: You get a law firm that is Williams Williams and
[44:41] Speaker 1: and you know Zion, Like whatever, right Williams you got.
[44:45] Speaker 1: You don't go, oh fucking Williams, get your son in
[44:48] Speaker 1: the business, right. But with entertainment this is one of
[44:52] Speaker 1: the problemses. So you, as a businessman, you can teach
[44:55] Speaker 1: your children how to be a businessman. I'm fucking working
[44:58] Speaker 1: on a sports card collection, right. I tell jokes and
[45:03] Speaker 1: you know, and do a bit acting. I can't teach
[45:07] Speaker 1: my children. I've invested well, I think, and I've done
[45:09] Speaker 1: little things right and that type of stuff, but there's
[45:12] Speaker 1: nothing for me to teach them if they want to
[45:14] Speaker 1: go into other fields. And it used to be you
[45:17] Speaker 1: could just go to university or whatever. And so now
[45:20] Speaker 1: I'm like, if I could help get my son's a
[45:23] Speaker 1: leg up in show business, I'm going to do it.
[45:26] Speaker 1: I'm going to do it because that's the only only
[45:28] Speaker 1: field that I know to work in now. Sadly, I
[45:30] Speaker 1: think that that field's going away. The only thing that
[45:33] Speaker 1: I would say, if you have a lot of money,
[45:35] Speaker 1: like a lot of money, that you should invest in.
[45:38] Speaker 1: And I know I've got a someone who I'm not
[45:41] Speaker 1: a friend with, someone i'm friendly with, who's a billionaire
[45:45] Speaker 1: and he invests. He was talking to me about this
[45:48] Speaker 1: is sports. Sports is going to be the only arena
[45:51] Speaker 1: left where we're always going to watch human beings.
[45:55] Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
[45:57] Speaker 1: We're never going to accept AI sports, going to accept
[46:00] Speaker 1: robot sports, right.
[46:02] Speaker 2: I don't know. I'd watch a running racing couple Robot.
[46:04] Speaker 1: But part of it is seeing ourselves, the humanity of
[46:08] Speaker 1: the thing, the injuries that this, that that how far
[46:12] Speaker 1: can we press ourselves? Once we see an athlete who's
[46:15] Speaker 1: doing something that we haven't seen before, that inspires human beings, Right,
[46:21] Speaker 1: shohe or Tani is now better than Babe Ruth. And
[46:24] Speaker 1: Babe Ruth was always going to be the greatest of
[46:27] Speaker 1: all time, and we thought no one could ever come close.
[46:29] Speaker 1: And now we've got a guy that's exceeded what he's done.
[46:33] Speaker 1: Mind you, Babe Ruth only played in the White leagues.
[46:36] Speaker 1: He didn't even play against the Dominican person, you know,
[46:38] Speaker 1: so we never know how he would have been if
[46:41] Speaker 1: he played against every other race.
[46:43] Speaker 2: Speaking which you've been watching the footing.
[46:44] Speaker 1: Yes, for the football. I'm SoC the soccer. As I
[46:47] Speaker 1: went and saw Australia versus Turkey, and I was at
[46:51] Speaker 1: the Australian American game as well, and I've been watching
[46:53] Speaker 1: all the other ones. I I the Egypt game has
[46:57] Speaker 1: stuffed me up all week because I never got my
[46:59] Speaker 1: bloody body clock right because they're waking up four o'clock
[47:02] Speaker 1: in the morning to see a whole lot of Egyptians
[47:04] Speaker 1: rolling around holding their shins. I've watched a lot of football,
[47:09] Speaker 1: a lot of football, and that was the most like
[47:13] Speaker 1: those cunts could have built a pyramid, None of them,
[47:17] Speaker 1: none of them. They would have gotten a pebble and
[47:19] Speaker 1: dropped it on their foot on the first fucking day.
[47:22] Speaker 1: If those pricks were making fact that were on that
[47:24] Speaker 1: field were making fucking pyramids, all the hieroglyphics would have
[47:27] Speaker 1: been blokes rolling around holding their fucking shins like. That
[47:32] Speaker 1: game proved to me that there are aliens, because they
[47:36] Speaker 1: couldn't have done it without fucking aliens.
[47:38] Speaker 2: Wasn't as good as the Italians were in where the
[47:40] Speaker 2: two thousand and four whenever it.
[47:42] Speaker 1: Was six when Lucas neil I was at that game
[47:46] Speaker 1: as well, was it? Yeah?
[47:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, so Berlin, Yeah yeah, Berlin. It was in Germany.
[47:52] Speaker 1: In two thousand and six, I went to Germany. I
[47:56] Speaker 1: had Marshwort Smiths, had maybe twenty thousand pounds in my
[48:01] Speaker 1: bank account, and coming from a working class family, I
[48:05] Speaker 1: might as well have been a millionaire. I had twenty
[48:07] Speaker 1: thousand pounds I'd saved up like I was set for life,
[48:11] Speaker 1: and so I rang up. And my mother was always
[48:16] Speaker 1: she wanted to come out to England and this, that
[48:18] Speaker 1: and the other, but she was hard work and I thought,
[48:21] Speaker 1: this is a good chance for me to just have
[48:24] Speaker 1: my father come and visit me, and for me and
[48:26] Speaker 1: him to do something together where my mother wouldn't complain
[48:29] Speaker 1: because she don't want to go to the World Cup
[48:30] Speaker 1: in Germany. So in two thousand and six I paid
[48:33] Speaker 1: for me dad to come out with that money and
[48:36] Speaker 1: we we I spent about half of it and tickets
[48:39] Speaker 1: and hotels and stuff like that, and it was one
[48:45] Speaker 1: of the greatest memories of my wife.
[48:47] Speaker 2: Were you were there telling a yeah, yeah, I don't
[48:49] Speaker 2: when the dude fell over in front of.
[48:51] Speaker 1: Lost Lucas Oil, Yeah, Lucas Neil.
[48:53] Speaker 2: And Marshwarts Schwartz added with the opposite direction for the
[48:56] Speaker 2: free kick.
[48:57] Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. The Croatia game. The Croatia game, standing next
[49:01] Speaker 1: to my father when we drew with Croatia to get
[49:03] Speaker 1: through our pool. Harry Kills goal was off side, by
[49:06] Speaker 1: the way, but what like by today's standards, it wouldn't
[49:08] Speaker 1: have been a goal. But and then they play. He
[49:11] Speaker 1: shook me all night long and the team came out
[49:13] Speaker 1: and tears in my eyes and that was something. So
[49:16] Speaker 1: as soon as the World Cup was in was in America,
[49:21] Speaker 1: I said to my son, I said, soon a school
[49:24] Speaker 1: holiday start. We're following the soccer roos around right. And
[49:28] Speaker 1: my son's American with an Australian passport, and I didn't
[49:31] Speaker 1: want to push him, and I just said, look you can,
[49:35] Speaker 1: you can follow whoever you want, mate, I said, you
[49:38] Speaker 1: know you want to follow America, you follow America. You
[49:40] Speaker 1: want to follow Australia, you follow austray whatever you want,
[49:42] Speaker 1: and they just and then he put on the Green
[49:44] Speaker 1: and gold and he went, come on, dad, let's go,
[49:46] Speaker 1: let's go, let's go, and we went and like he
[49:49] Speaker 1: hadn't seen any soccer games, many football games in his life,
[49:53] Speaker 1: if any, I don't think. I started like trying to
[49:56] Speaker 1: make him listen to podcasts and the way to school
[49:58] Speaker 1: about the Australian team, and like he he wasn't really interesting.
[50:00] Speaker 1: I went off, this might be a bit of a
[50:02] Speaker 1: flop because I was already living in England as a
[50:04] Speaker 1: football fan. My dad was a huge football fan, and
[50:07] Speaker 1: so my dad watches more soccer than any old Australian
[50:10] Speaker 1: blake going he lived in London, and then I did
[50:12] Speaker 1: sixties big Chelsea.
[50:13] Speaker 2: FA Cup final.
[50:14] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my father was at the World Cup final
[50:18] Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty six where England won the World Cup.
[50:21] Speaker 2: That was the last time.
[50:22] Speaker 1: Yeah, And that same day, I believe it was that
[50:25] Speaker 1: day or the FA Cup he went to the World
[50:27] Speaker 1: Cup final and then he watched Cashier's clay fight in
[50:30] Speaker 1: the same day, right, And we had growing up in
[50:32] Speaker 1: our house, my father had I think it was the
[50:35] Speaker 1: mirror of the son. Whatever the newspaper was. He had
[50:37] Speaker 1: the front page of the Newcastle from nineteen to six,
[50:40] Speaker 1: from the newspaper from nineteen sixty six, So I was
[50:43] Speaker 1: always part of growing up from me was the World Cup.
[50:47] Speaker 1: And so so my son goes out and then and
[50:51] Speaker 1: then that Turkey game was magic. It was magic. He
[50:56] Speaker 1: was excited. He was this the two goals or they
[50:58] Speaker 1: are against the run of play. We didn't look like
[51:00] Speaker 1: the better team, but we sort of. We did it
[51:02] Speaker 1: on the breakaway the whole time, fast break play, like
[51:05] Speaker 1: going through. And then I thought, oh, he enjoyed that.
[51:09] Speaker 1: I knew he really enjoyed it because we were we
[51:12] Speaker 1: were getting set for the America versus Australia game, right
[51:17] Speaker 1: and then and then as soon as they named the liner.
[51:20] Speaker 1: My son was like this, what he's not playing med
[51:22] Speaker 1: car for Iran a kunda. They scored our two goals.
[51:26] Speaker 1: He went, Popovich has lost his mind straight on it. Yeah,
[51:30] Speaker 1: and that was from a kid who would watched one
[51:32] Speaker 1: game of football.
[51:33] Speaker 2: How old is he hold?
[51:33] Speaker 1: Is he thirteen? But now he had all the opinions lost.
[51:38] Speaker 2: His not only like Donald Trump after he saw that
[51:41] Speaker 2: of that fall the American boy guy and got the
[51:43] Speaker 2: recard for.
[51:43] Speaker 1: That was that was the dumbest thing he could have done.
[51:46] Speaker 1: He's done some dumb things in his day, but overturning
[51:49] Speaker 1: a red card when no other nation can overturn a
[51:51] Speaker 1: red card, you better fucking win that game, because all
[51:54] Speaker 1: you did was make everyone.
[51:55] Speaker 2: In Belgium father it was for one or something.
[51:57] Speaker 1: Yeah, they got they got destroyed. He would have been seven,
[52:00] Speaker 1: yeah right, and it was like everyone became a Belgian
[52:04] Speaker 1: fan because that's even even if you say, oh, that's
[52:07] Speaker 1: not a red card, if that didn't deserve a red card,
[52:10] Speaker 1: you're the other teams don't get that grace of overturn
[52:14] Speaker 1: a red card if it's a precedent. So so what
[52:17] Speaker 1: we can get an overturned red card? Now? Can we
[52:19] Speaker 1: know we can't so like FIFA already for the last
[52:24] Speaker 1: you know, probably eighty years have been dealing with people
[52:27] Speaker 1: saying they're corrupt, and once again they proved it. And
[52:32] Speaker 1: Donald Trump with the drain the swamp. Drain the swamp.
[52:35] Speaker 1: There's a reason that the bloody reflecting pool is green
[52:38] Speaker 1: and filled without you, because it's reflecting the fucking country.
[52:43] Speaker 2: I do want to ask for a bit more serious question. Yeah, yeah,
[52:46] Speaker 2: I want to ask you about your nephew. Yeah, yeah, okay,
[52:48] Speaker 2: the one who died. Yeah, first, could you explain his
[52:52] Speaker 2: Your nephew is your brother's kid, is.
[52:54] Speaker 1: My brother's eldest boy, It was my It was my
[52:57] Speaker 1: eldest nephew, Lieutenant Max and you and he a great kid.
[53:05] Speaker 1: What did he die from? He was one of the
[53:12] Speaker 1: he was one of the four soldiers and the helicopter
[53:17] Speaker 1: that crashed at the with Sundays more.
[53:19] Speaker 2: That's it's a couple of years ago now, Yeah, and
[53:22] Speaker 2: you've been pretty vocal about it though.
[53:23] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're.
[53:25] Speaker 2: Not happy with them the final results.
[53:26] Speaker 1: Look, it was industrial manslaughter. And there's no IF's, no
[53:30] Speaker 1: butts about this.
[53:31] Speaker 2: And this isn't me saying forty helicopter what well, here's
[53:35] Speaker 2: here's the thing.
[53:36] Speaker 1: So, so the helicopter crashes, I find it funny. You've
[53:42] Speaker 1: got to laugh about things in a certain way. So
[53:44] Speaker 1: I find it funny that when I explained to Americans
[53:47] Speaker 1: how my my nephew died, they always are almost about
[53:52] Speaker 1: the laugh because it sounds like the most Australian death
[53:55] Speaker 1: on Earth. I go, he crashed a helicopter near the
[53:57] Speaker 1: Great Barrier Reef where his remains were eaten by shark
[54:00] Speaker 1: like on Australian deaths. That's right up. So it wasn't
[54:06] Speaker 1: a helicopter. If you watch, there's a sixty minute story.
[54:09] Speaker 1: So this isn't me just I'm not a conspiracy theory
[54:11] Speaker 1: or just giving my opinion on this. This is These
[54:14] Speaker 1: are the facts investigated. These are the facts. Right. Helicopter
[54:17] Speaker 1: crashes into the water. They were flying at very low
[54:19] Speaker 1: range during a night where it was raining far too much.
[54:23] Speaker 1: They were doing the war games with the American soldiers
[54:26] Speaker 1: and with the British soldiers. All of their soldiers decided
[54:29] Speaker 1: to stay back. The Australian guys went, will fucking charm
[54:32] Speaker 1: what we're going to do? So the guys didn't have
[54:34] Speaker 1: enough sleep. Then they were in the helicopter like this.
[54:36] Speaker 1: The helicopters crashed. The next day, the Australian government buries
[54:41] Speaker 1: and removes over forty Taipan helicopters in an undisclosed location.
[54:48] Speaker 2: I remember that.
[54:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, it stinks like they just got rid.
[54:52] Speaker 2: Of because I thought of myself, maybe I would have
[54:54] Speaker 2: bought one from them if they didn't want to use
[54:55] Speaker 2: them anymore.
[54:55] Speaker 1: Do you create ask them for them?
[54:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that too. I do remember that.
[55:01] Speaker 1: Ukraine ask for them. So they get rid of these helicopters, right,
[55:05] Speaker 1: because they think there's something foldy. Because if you're a member,
[55:08] Speaker 1: maybe six months earlier or something, there was another type
[55:11] Speaker 1: and helicopter that dropped into the water, and then the
[55:13] Speaker 1: other type and helicopter came and rescued all the soldiers
[55:16] Speaker 1: who jumped out before it happened. When nephew was flying
[55:19] Speaker 1: that other helicopter, he was part of the helicopter that rescued.
[55:23] Speaker 1: The rest is from that accident, right, So they get
[55:27] Speaker 1: rid of all the helicopters. I think it's something wrong
[55:29] Speaker 1: with the helicopters. It's from what I can tell, it's
[55:31] Speaker 1: not as much that something's wrong with the helicopters, but
[55:33] Speaker 1: Australia for whatever reason, so we could feel good about ourselves.
[55:36] Speaker 1: Wanted to give a lot more tech jobs. So we
[55:39] Speaker 1: buy these helicopters that have been working all around the world.
[55:42] Speaker 1: They've been working perfectly, and we buy them in a
[55:44] Speaker 1: very rough shape, like just a very basic version of
[55:48] Speaker 1: the helicopter, and then we go, we'll put our own
[55:50] Speaker 1: technology in there. You know, we're going to put it in there.
[55:54] Speaker 1: So the night, our helmets, which is everything to the pilot,
[55:57] Speaker 1: took their whole face over right. Everything's everything's like this.
[56:02] Speaker 1: This all you're reading. There's a screen as you're reading,
[56:05] Speaker 1: it's your dials, and it's everything's like this. They're not
[56:08] Speaker 1: using the outside world. Well, it turns out that in
[56:11] Speaker 1: wet weather these helmets invert their readings, right, and so
[56:17] Speaker 1: the rain drops and stuff throw throw it out and
[56:19] Speaker 1: they invert the and that's major, right, So down means
[56:23] Speaker 1: up and up means down. Now, my nephew wasn't the pilot,
[56:28] Speaker 1: and I feel sorry for the family and the actual
[56:30] Speaker 1: pilot because that's a bit of a heavier weight. I
[56:33] Speaker 1: was nervous when the helicopter went down because there was
[56:35] Speaker 1: two pilots. He was one of them. The other two
[56:37] Speaker 1: lads are in the back, and so you don't you
[56:40] Speaker 1: don't want it to be him who did that. But
[56:49] Speaker 1: I feel sorry for the other bloke because I've listened
[56:53] Speaker 1: to the black Pox. What oh really you want to
[56:59] Speaker 1: hear the last thing he said, you know, and he's
[57:02] Speaker 1: just like, it's getting a bit dicey. But he's trying
[57:05] Speaker 1: to warn the other block that he thought it was
[57:06] Speaker 1: going down, but because he was seen, he didn't want
[57:09] Speaker 1: to say too much.
[57:11] Speaker 2: Can't they just take the helmet off and pitch dark?
[57:16] Speaker 1: This is night vision. This is the only way they
[57:17] Speaker 1: can see. There's no headlights on the pitch dark, so
[57:22] Speaker 1: they go in the helicopter smashes. So the night now
[57:25] Speaker 1: was there was test pilots that had tested these helmets
[57:30] Speaker 1: years earlier before the Australian government said they would put
[57:33] Speaker 1: them into play, years earlier, and they said categorically that
[57:37] Speaker 1: this will end in industrial manslaughter, not might happen, this
[57:41] Speaker 1: will end in industrial man's emphatically yep, And it did.
[57:45] Speaker 1: And then one of those test pilots he was pushed
[57:49] Speaker 1: out because they wanted him to stop talking. And so
[57:52] Speaker 1: now he's gotten up and spoke very brave and so
[57:59] Speaker 1: there's what is it?
[58:00] Speaker 2: The unfairness is the lack of justice? Is it unjust?
[58:03] Speaker 1: What is it? It's apart from the y I'd like
[58:07] Speaker 1: an admission of guilt, you know. So the inquiry happened,
[58:11] Speaker 1: and then whether that information was going to be released
[58:14] Speaker 1: to the Australian people, both the Liberal and the Labor government.
[58:17] Speaker 1: Every politician voted no, and the Greens in one nation
[58:21] Speaker 1: votes race. They closed ranks and went no, this isn't
[58:24] Speaker 1: coming out. So how can I say that either one
[58:26] Speaker 1: of those governments are my people or people that I
[58:30] Speaker 1: should listen to, or how do I Australia? Okay? So
[58:34] Speaker 1: Americans support troops daily, right, Americans support troops daily in
[58:41] Speaker 1: this hollow not they mean well by it. But you
[58:44] Speaker 1: go to a baseball game and it's like here, servicemen
[58:48] Speaker 1: of the day, please stand up. This guy for it
[58:51] Speaker 1: in Vietnam and Da da da, we salute you. And
[58:54] Speaker 1: then every time you get on a plane.
[58:56] Speaker 2: At airport, please come through it.
[58:58] Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for your service. Thank you for your service,
[59:01] Speaker 1: Thank you for your service. But you know what a
[59:02] Speaker 1: lot of that is in my opinion, and people I
[59:06] Speaker 1: support the troops when they say I support the troops.
[59:08] Speaker 1: It's it's recruitment tools, the aeroplanes over the top of
[59:16] Speaker 1: the Super Bowl or whatever like that. The taxpayer pays
[59:19] Speaker 1: for that. That's not doing it because the Air Force
[59:21] Speaker 1: want to help us out. Is because they want to
[59:23] Speaker 1: look fucking cool, right, and they want to have people
[59:26] Speaker 1: stand up and applaud it and feeling great. But do
[59:28] Speaker 1: they support their troops when I think it's over fifty
[59:31] Speaker 1: percent of all homeless people. I might be out on that.
[59:32] Speaker 1: Statistics don't get into me if it's not correct, But
[59:36] Speaker 1: hive percent of homeless people in America arend ex military, right,
[59:42] Speaker 1: and they have PTSD and then the drug problems and this,
[59:45] Speaker 1: that and the other. And some people who joined the
[59:47] Speaker 1: army were sort of lost souls before they got there,
[59:49] Speaker 1: and they did it to get a bit of focus
[59:52] Speaker 1: in their life. And then once it's gone, this fucking
[59:55] Speaker 1: rambo I was an important person there. Now I can't
[59:59] Speaker 1: work a job if I can pumping gas, right. So
[1:00:02] Speaker 1: they support them when they're in the uniform and they
[1:00:05] Speaker 1: walk on them, but they step over them when they're
[1:00:07] Speaker 1: laying on the streets on heroin. And so what I
[1:00:11] Speaker 1: always kind of dug about Australia in the military is
[1:00:15] Speaker 1: we don't support daily. We don't walk around and go
[1:00:19] Speaker 1: thank you for your service and all save this stuff,
[1:00:22] Speaker 1: and we salute you and stand up and all other stuff.
[1:00:26] Speaker 1: The commands that day we mean it, we mean it.
[1:00:29] Speaker 1: Memorial Day in America is nothing. Oh really, I don't
[1:00:32] Speaker 1: even know what. I've got a Friday off of it.
[1:00:34] Speaker 1: I've got a Monday off of it. Right, that's good.
[1:00:37] Speaker 1: But Australians will take a holiday to Turkey. Australians will
[1:00:41] Speaker 1: get up, go to glibly, get up a dawn to
[1:00:45] Speaker 1: respect men who died a hundred and something, one hundred
[1:00:48] Speaker 1: and ten years ago, one hundred and twenty. You know
[1:00:51] Speaker 1: what I mean, to respect men that have none of
[1:00:55] Speaker 1: us knew it. They've been gone for a long.
[1:00:57] Speaker 2: Time, right, And so I can the new Australians.
[1:01:00] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, New Australians do it.
[1:01:02] Speaker 2: Maybe you didn't have a grandfather something doing it.
[1:01:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, Like we respect our troops. We don't carry on
[1:01:06] Speaker 1: about it all the time, but we have a deep
[1:01:09] Speaker 1: connection and our history really is like our modern history
[1:01:13] Speaker 1: of Australia is the wars that we've fought in and
[1:01:16] Speaker 1: the people we've lost.
[1:01:19] Speaker 2: So what about then?
[1:01:22] Speaker 1: What everybody everybody, the strain public couldn't have been warmer. Well,
[1:01:35] Speaker 1: you know, there's been reefs laid down for my nephew,
[1:01:38] Speaker 1: and people come up to me after shows. At least
[1:01:42] Speaker 1: once a week someone will say sorry about you, nephew.
[1:01:47] Speaker 1: So I'm sorry about you if you too, So it's
[1:01:50] Speaker 1: it does mean something that so the public do give
[1:01:53] Speaker 1: a shit right and the government didn't. And that's that's
[1:02:00] Speaker 1: where I'm like that. They said they will not be forgotten.
[1:02:04] Speaker 1: These men will not go here there, but they won't
[1:02:07] Speaker 1: go old, they won't all those words. But when it
[1:02:11] Speaker 1: came to the inquirity inquiry, they made my brother and
[1:02:17] Speaker 1: he's my sister in law, they had to go up
[1:02:22] Speaker 1: to inquiries that were up up in Townsville and then
[1:02:25] Speaker 1: one in Sydney and one in a different place. And
[1:02:28] Speaker 1: they burnt through all their holidays, burnt through all they
[1:02:31] Speaker 1: spent months going to watch and watch and watch and watch,
[1:02:34] Speaker 1: and here other reasons why the government wasn't at fault
[1:02:39] Speaker 1: for what happened, and it could have been. If this
[1:02:42] Speaker 1: was a private matter, it would have been sorted out
[1:02:45] Speaker 1: of court like that. They would have gone, we know
[1:02:47] Speaker 1: we've done something wrong here on this makeup. But it's
[1:02:53] Speaker 1: it's just a smaller admission of fault right now. I
[1:02:57] Speaker 1: think going back to the Aboriginal thing I was saying early, yeah,
[1:03:00] Speaker 1: that was the whole thing they wanted with the stolen generation.
[1:03:02] Speaker 1: They wanted us just to admit and go yes. And
[1:03:05] Speaker 1: then that's what I was saying. We moved past that
[1:03:07] Speaker 1: a little.
[1:03:07] Speaker 2: Bit more, making a mission of these things, just a missions.
[1:03:11] Speaker 1: We had test pilots say the helmet doesn't work right.
[1:03:15] Speaker 1: You can say what you want about Australians, but maybe
[1:03:17] Speaker 1: we shouldn't be making high end technology. We don't have
[1:03:20] Speaker 1: the population for it. You know, where's you know, we're
[1:03:24] Speaker 1: twenty seven million people and you want us to compete
[1:03:27] Speaker 1: with Silicon Valley. It's not our thing.
[1:03:30] Speaker 2: It was our tech, was it?
[1:03:31] Speaker 1: It was our tech?
[1:03:32] Speaker 2: Oh my god?
[1:03:32] Speaker 1: Yeah, And so you want us to compete with Silicon Valley.
[1:03:36] Speaker 1: We do a few things very well here in Australia
[1:03:38] Speaker 1: where you fucking we dig holes, you fucking Even then,
[1:03:42] Speaker 1: I think this is another one with Australian government. Man,
[1:03:46] Speaker 1: with all of our oil, with all of our eyes
[1:03:48] Speaker 1: just gas, gas, uranium, we're sending coal to get burn
[1:03:54] Speaker 1: outher but all this type of stuff to Norway to
[1:04:01] Speaker 1: do gigs. The Norwegians have so much oil supplay that
[1:04:04] Speaker 1: the whole country is rich. Everybody is getting a free
[1:04:07] Speaker 1: like it's and it's noticeable. The place is as clean
[1:04:10] Speaker 1: as all boards, and everyone's getting free education right now.
[1:04:15] Speaker 1: Maybe if we all got free education and all that
[1:04:18] Speaker 1: type of stuff, we wouldn't be bitching about your tax
[1:04:20] Speaker 1: plans right now. Yeah, totally, But you have the opportunity
[1:04:23] Speaker 1: to do. This's been a just selling it off to
[1:04:25] Speaker 1: other people, letting them refine it and buy it back
[1:04:28] Speaker 1: and hopeless. It's not that smart. Hopeless hopeless right. So, yeah,
[1:04:34] Speaker 1: I've covered a lot of ground in the life.
[1:04:36] Speaker 2: I got one last thing.
[1:04:37] Speaker 1: I got.
[1:04:39] Speaker 2: I got one last thing when to come here? Seriously
[1:04:41] Speaker 2: the one last thing, and I think is fucking Larius
[1:04:43] Speaker 2: is I don't know whose calling is this, but kangaroo fuckers?
[1:04:50] Speaker 2: Where does who calls us that?
[1:04:52] Speaker 1: So me and my mate Amos, we do a podcast,
[1:04:55] Speaker 1: the ATM Podcast, and then people who have started. Amos
[1:04:59] Speaker 1: goes to the World Cup with me, and he goes
[1:05:01] Speaker 1: to the World Cup with me, and he always was
[1:05:04] Speaker 1: of the belief that Americans are terrible with chance. Right.
[1:05:10] Speaker 1: The British, the English, the Scots, even like the Norwegians
[1:05:14] Speaker 1: doing the right. Yeah, ain't that right. I've always thought
[1:05:20] Speaker 1: OI was weak as balls. We need to move on
[1:05:26] Speaker 1: from that one. It doesn't it's not good enough, it's
[1:05:30] Speaker 1: not good enough. And so so Amos thought to himself.
[1:05:33] Speaker 1: He thought to himself, I'll go to the Oh, go
[1:05:36] Speaker 1: you can check his account, Amos, go, you can see
[1:05:38] Speaker 1: these clips. He goes, they went viral, one of them
[1:05:40] Speaker 1: like forty million hits. He goes, We'll go to the soccer.
[1:05:44] Speaker 1: And he was gonna write chance for every country that
[1:05:48] Speaker 1: he was in, right, and he was in America, and
[1:05:52] Speaker 1: he did this stand up, if your schools are safe.
[1:05:57] Speaker 1: Stand up, which is the village people, once again, if
[1:06:01] Speaker 1: your schools are safe. And then he did the oh,
[1:06:05] Speaker 1: he did the your fat and you know you are
[1:06:07] Speaker 1: just a few like not. And then I liked his
[1:06:10] Speaker 1: Paraguay chants because he was chanting at the Paraguay game.
[1:06:14] Speaker 1: Are you disabled? Uruguay? They were all met in fun, right,
[1:06:19] Speaker 1: And when he did ones for Turkey, and the Turkey
[1:06:22] Speaker 1: ones were about hair transplants and all that type of
[1:06:24] Speaker 1: stuff and getting your veneers done and all that. Right,
[1:06:27] Speaker 1: they were all in good fun, everyone's but when he
[1:06:29] Speaker 1: did the American ones, then we just got like a
[1:06:31] Speaker 1: little influx of hate for the day of just people like,
[1:06:34] Speaker 1: get the fuck out of here, your real fuckers, real
[1:06:38] Speaker 1: fucking roof fuckers, kangaroo fuckers. Do you know how how
[1:06:42] Speaker 1: tough you would have to beat a fucking kangaroo. It's
[1:06:45] Speaker 1: it's not like a sheep. Not an easy thing that
[1:06:47] Speaker 1: the New Zealanders do. This is this takes men, takes
[1:06:51] Speaker 1: men with fortitude and muscles.
[1:06:53] Speaker 2: And he sings a six foot tall, six.
[1:06:55] Speaker 1: Foot tall the tails down that you have to whip
[1:06:57] Speaker 1: that up on your shoulder. You have to fucking dig
[1:07:00] Speaker 1: their feet in the ground. You have to grab around
[1:07:01] Speaker 1: and reach a pouch and pull down and really fucking
[1:07:04] Speaker 1: go for it. Like I don't agree with it, don't
[1:07:07] Speaker 1: I don't agree with men who fuck kangaroos, but I
[1:07:10] Speaker 1: respect them. To me.
[1:07:14] Speaker 2: That last thing I want to know about it is
[1:07:16] Speaker 2: is your your next Netflix series? What's it called?
[1:07:20] Speaker 1: My next Netflix special? Well? Okay, so specially, First of all,
[1:07:23] Speaker 1: nothing's promised because I haven't signed a contract with Netflix.
[1:07:26] Speaker 2: I have you filmed it yet? No?
[1:07:29] Speaker 1: No, it's this tour. So when this whole tour. So
[1:07:31] Speaker 1: when this tour ends, this has become the new special.
[1:07:33] Speaker 2: So this has been filmed.
[1:07:34] Speaker 1: No, no, no, we have to pick a night in
[1:07:36] Speaker 1: the theater and everything. We normally do that in America
[1:07:38] Speaker 1: is because it's cheaper and the executives can be there.
[1:07:40] Speaker 1: And on the top of stuff, I would like to
[1:07:42] Speaker 1: record running Astralia, but it's just a little tricky. I've
[1:07:47] Speaker 1: done six Netflix specials. I don't know if I get
[1:07:49] Speaker 1: enough credit for that, because that's the most amount of
[1:07:51] Speaker 1: specials of any comedian on Earth I've done. I've done
[1:07:55] Speaker 1: ten in total, right, but six of them on Netflix.
[1:07:58] Speaker 1: And so Dave Gabrielleglaciers, there's Bill burr All got five, right,
[1:08:04] Speaker 1: and Bill went off and did one on Hulu, so
[1:08:05] Speaker 1: he's got you know, but I'm the og man. And
[1:08:08] Speaker 1: so what happened was, this is a funny story. So
[1:08:14] Speaker 1: what happened was when Netflix first got into doing stand
[1:08:16] Speaker 1: up special so I'd done one with HBO, which is
[1:08:19] Speaker 1: pretty prestigious back in the day if you were doing
[1:08:21] Speaker 1: an HBO special. Hboly did like five specials a year,
[1:08:24] Speaker 1: and that was the HBO and Showtime with the two
[1:08:26] Speaker 1: places that could you know you could do it. So really,
[1:08:29] Speaker 1: only ten fifteen comics we're getting specials. Now you get
[1:08:31] Speaker 1: like forty different comics from around the world getting specials.
[1:08:34] Speaker 1: And it's just so when I got asked to do
[1:08:37] Speaker 1: this special and I got paid I believe fifty thousand
[1:08:40] Speaker 1: dollars nothing after taxing, committed like very not a lot
[1:08:43] Speaker 1: of money, A lot of money. I got sued by.
[1:08:46] Speaker 1: I got sued by my I was contracted to do
[1:08:50] Speaker 1: five specials in the UK, and then when I got
[1:08:52] Speaker 1: the American when I said, I'm going to do it anyway,
[1:08:54] Speaker 1: and so I got sued for I believe ninety pounds,
[1:08:57] Speaker 1: which I happily paid. So I spent ninety pounds to
[1:09:00] Speaker 1: get out of that contract because I do the American
[1:09:02] Speaker 1: one doing fifty thousand American dollars. So I was broke.
[1:09:05] Speaker 1: I was in so much debt after that special, but
[1:09:08] Speaker 1: I knew it would lead to other things. And then
[1:09:10] Speaker 1: I did a showtime when I did another one on
[1:09:12] Speaker 1: a channel called Epics, I did yeah, And then I
[1:09:15] Speaker 1: started doing the Netflix ones. And when I started doing
[1:09:19] Speaker 1: the Netflix ones, a lot of people were like Netflix,
[1:09:22] Speaker 1: Then this is you know, sixteen years ago did my
[1:09:26] Speaker 1: first Netflix, specially I believe, or maybe that's maybe fifteen
[1:09:30] Speaker 1: years and there's Big Lady to be twelve before my
[1:09:35] Speaker 1: son was born. Eleven year, Yeah, fourteen years, let's go, right.
[1:09:38] Speaker 1: So I did this special called Bear, and when I
[1:09:40] Speaker 1: did it, everyone online was like, it was like, oh,
[1:09:43] Speaker 1: Jesu's doing it, doing a special one a streamers when
[1:09:47] Speaker 1: streamers weren't as popular as regular TV. They were like,
[1:09:51] Speaker 1: he's doing someone's career is over. And I was like,
[1:09:54] Speaker 1: they're paying more money than the other company. He's like,
[1:09:56] Speaker 1: it's got to be all right, you know. So Netflix
[1:09:59] Speaker 1: dipped their toe in doing comedy specials and they decided
[1:10:03] Speaker 1: to pick five comics that would cover a spectrum that
[1:10:06] Speaker 1: people would like to see, right, And I was one
[1:10:10] Speaker 1: of the original five comics to get a special, and
[1:10:13] Speaker 1: the comics were and we were going to do like
[1:10:15] Speaker 1: a press conference and everything, and I was very excited
[1:10:18] Speaker 1: about this before all of it lined up, Yeah, like
[1:10:19] Speaker 1: Netflix is a joke and all this type of stuff.
[1:10:21] Speaker 1: There was talk of all this stuff, and the comedians
[1:10:25] Speaker 1: were me, Bill Burr, Chelsea Hailer, and Chelsea Peretti, all
[1:10:29] Speaker 1: very good comics, and but we couldn't because the fifth
[1:10:33] Speaker 1: guy couldn't make it because Bill Cosby had gotten into
[1:10:37] Speaker 1: some trouble that week. Oh was he one of the
[1:10:38] Speaker 1: he was the other one. Oh my god, that specials
[1:10:40] Speaker 1: never aired. The whole story broke about his whole life,
[1:10:46] Speaker 1: and so I was excited. I was going to meet
[1:10:49] Speaker 1: Bill Cosby.
[1:10:49] Speaker 2: I used to watch that show, Bill Goosby show.
[1:10:52] Speaker 1: Look when Bill Cosby got out of prison, and I
[1:10:54] Speaker 1: can this is a fact. Bill Cosby got out of prison.
[1:10:58] Speaker 1: He had been out of prison for forty eight hours,
[1:11:00] Speaker 1: twenty four to forty eight hours. I was down at
[1:11:03] Speaker 1: one of the comedy clubs in town. I like him,
[1:11:05] Speaker 1: and say the club, I'm sure they'd like a plug.
[1:11:06] Speaker 1: Burbank Flappers, right, Burbank Flappers, Yeah, flappers. And I know
[1:11:11] Speaker 1: his old agent as well. The first thing that Bill
[1:11:14] Speaker 1: Cosby did when he got out of prison was ring
[1:11:17] Speaker 1: all the comedy clubs up and go, I like to
[1:11:20] Speaker 1: come and do some sets. I've got some new material
[1:11:25] Speaker 1: this right. The first thing he wanted to do in
[1:11:28] Speaker 1: his I believe late eighties was go and do stand
[1:11:32] Speaker 1: up comedy after he got out of prison. That was
[1:11:34] Speaker 1: the thing that he wanted more than anything, and everyone
[1:11:37] Speaker 1: was like, no, sorry, mister Cosby, We're not going to
[1:11:39] Speaker 1: be putting you on at our show because now here's
[1:11:43] Speaker 1: the social dilemma whether you can separate the art from
[1:11:47] Speaker 1: the artist, because I think Bill Cosby is a terrible
[1:11:51] Speaker 1: human being. Of course he is if you believe him.
[1:11:53] Speaker 1: In one tenth of the things that have come through,
[1:11:56] Speaker 1: it's very obvious that he's about And also he's one
[1:11:59] Speaker 1: of these people who hated it comics like me, comics
[1:12:01] Speaker 1: is swore he always and I've heard stories from other
[1:12:04] Speaker 1: comics who have worked with him that are pretty gruesome
[1:12:06] Speaker 1: stories like hypocritical though very hypocritical man, very hypocritical man
[1:12:10] Speaker 1: about that you don't need to swear. You got to
[1:12:12] Speaker 1: be family friendly, and this is the least family friendly
[1:12:15] Speaker 1: man in the world. I'll tell you this about sweary comics.
[1:12:17] Speaker 1: At least you know who you stand with him. Yeah, right,
[1:12:20] Speaker 1: And but I'll tell you what. I'd like to see
[1:12:23] Speaker 1: his prison set, wouldn't you? He was he was very
[1:12:27] Speaker 1: good at stand up comedy. Like if he's in prison,
[1:12:30] Speaker 1: he's an art for me, right, as an art for Yeah,
[1:12:33] Speaker 1: I'd like to see what five years in prison? What
[1:12:37] Speaker 1: material Bill Cosby wrote in that time, Like how to
[1:12:40] Speaker 1: make like a knife out of the end of a toothbrush.
[1:12:44] Speaker 1: Oh you know, this is how you stop yourself from
[1:12:48] Speaker 1: getting reaped. You know what I mean? Like like it
[1:12:51] Speaker 1: would have been wonderful material, but we'll never get to
[1:12:53] Speaker 1: see it.
[1:12:53] Speaker 2: What are you going to call? You serious when it
[1:12:55] Speaker 2: gets up leaked?
[1:12:55] Speaker 1: So my next special, I like the name son of
[1:12:59] Speaker 1: a carp I could continue that normally. See the difference
[1:13:04] Speaker 1: between tour names and the different between tour names and
[1:13:09] Speaker 1: special names are A tour name is named before the
[1:13:12] Speaker 1: material is written. For me, anyway other people might get.
[1:13:15] Speaker 1: A tour name is written before the material has written.
[1:13:17] Speaker 1: So you'll finish it. You'll finish a special. And the
[1:13:20] Speaker 1: next thing, because you get a little bump in your
[1:13:22] Speaker 1: career up the special airs, the next thing your agents
[1:13:25] Speaker 1: are doing is putting you straight back on the road.
[1:13:27] Speaker 1: And you go into a panic because that's the worst
[1:13:29] Speaker 1: time to perform, because I've just retired this material that
[1:13:32] Speaker 1: I've just done. I've got nothing you little bits and
[1:13:35] Speaker 1: pieces and thoughts and ideas, and I sort of frankenstein
[1:13:38] Speaker 1: it into an idea and then they go and what's
[1:13:40] Speaker 1: the name of the tour? You haven't even written a
[1:13:42] Speaker 1: joke right, and you're like, it's called the blah blah
[1:13:45] Speaker 1: blah Tour, and the name of that tour means nothing,
[1:13:48] Speaker 1: means nothing to what you're going to see. And then
[1:13:51] Speaker 1: by the time the show's all done and you record
[1:13:54] Speaker 1: the special, then you know what the show should be
[1:13:56] Speaker 1: called because you can see it. It's most like most bands,
[1:14:00] Speaker 1: it's the title track off the album. It's whatever the
[1:14:03] Speaker 1: big joke is off the album. So maybe I'll call
[1:14:07] Speaker 1: it something else. I might call it The Five Groups
[1:14:10] Speaker 1: or something like that. But you want something catchy. I
[1:14:15] Speaker 1: like Son of a Carpenter because I think my dad.
[1:14:18] Speaker 1: My dad enjoys that name, and he's not you know,
[1:14:20] Speaker 1: he's not going to be with us forever, so I
[1:14:22] Speaker 1: think he's in his eighties. I think that'll be a
[1:14:24] Speaker 1: little nod for bad gift. It's not a bad gift,
[1:14:28] Speaker 1: you know, I got Look, man, I love my dad
[1:14:32] Speaker 1: very much. I at the moment, I'm I'm working. I
[1:14:36] Speaker 1: don't know if I should mentioned I'm working on my
[1:14:38] Speaker 1: biography at the moment, which I found very painful experience,
[1:14:42] Speaker 1: something I haven't enjoyed. I didn't I don't want to
[1:14:45] Speaker 1: drags up because you don't want to throw people under
[1:14:49] Speaker 1: the bus. But you also you can't lie in it.
[1:14:52] Speaker 1: It's your biography, and you can't exclude big things if
[1:14:57] Speaker 1: you're doing a straight up biography. I'm going to straight
[1:14:59] Speaker 1: up biography, right. I can't sugar gloss, sugarcoat, sugar gloss,
[1:15:03] Speaker 1: sugar coat everything from me childhood. My mother was you know,
[1:15:09] Speaker 1: it was It was hard work to say it lightly, right,
[1:15:12] Speaker 1: But I also credit her for a lot of my success,
[1:15:16] Speaker 1: and I believe she loved me. So you know, what
[1:15:18] Speaker 1: more can you ask from a person. We're all flawed,
[1:15:21] Speaker 1: you know what I mean, But her flaws were quite
[1:15:23] Speaker 1: big and they're worth mentioning. And I think I think
[1:15:31] Speaker 1: it'll upset my father if it's in prep. That part.
[1:15:34] Speaker 1: It's hard if it's in print, because he has a
[1:15:37] Speaker 1: different memory and he he had a different relationship with
[1:15:40] Speaker 1: her than I had with her.
[1:15:41] Speaker 2: And funny how all our truths are different. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
[1:15:44] Speaker 2: everyone's someone says to me, well, I'm telling you the truth,
[1:15:47] Speaker 2: like I hear journalists of tool said, but they how
[1:15:50] Speaker 2: they present the news, for example, we always tell the truth.
[1:15:53] Speaker 2: But my view is, yeah, you're telling me your truth.
[1:15:55] Speaker 2: Everyone's going a truth.
[1:15:56] Speaker 1: You can leave a party and everyone will have a
[1:16:00] Speaker 1: different perception of what happened to that party. Who was fun,
[1:16:02] Speaker 1: who was an asshole, who was good, who was bad.
[1:16:04] Speaker 1: So I'll give you an example. I had a mate
[1:16:07] Speaker 1: come to my show on on just this Saturday, who
[1:16:13] Speaker 1: was a guy I went to university with. Hadn't seen
[1:16:16] Speaker 1: him really since it had been it had been a
[1:16:18] Speaker 1: good twenty years since i'd seen this fellow, and it
[1:16:23] Speaker 1: was good to see him. And he he married a
[1:16:26] Speaker 1: girl that we went to university with. That that was
[1:16:28] Speaker 1: his first marriage, and now he's on another one and
[1:16:30] Speaker 1: that lay had a kid together whatever, and so he
[1:16:33] Speaker 1: married this girl we went to university with. And when
[1:16:37] Speaker 1: you go to Wappa or night or anything like that,
[1:16:39] Speaker 1: it's very close knit. The year that you're in is
[1:16:42] Speaker 1: very close knit. You know, you have three thousand kids
[1:16:46] Speaker 1: auditioned for this course that's government funded whatever to go
[1:16:50] Speaker 1: and sing musical theater, and you've only taken thirty. So
[1:16:55] Speaker 1: it's fifteen boys and fifteen girls, and you all sort
[1:16:57] Speaker 1: of feel very lucky. But you know as you go
[1:16:59] Speaker 1: along you're going to lose students and they're going to
[1:17:01] Speaker 1: end up with about eight people at the end of
[1:17:03] Speaker 1: the whole course. Wow, I didn't make it right, but
[1:17:05] Speaker 1: it is this intense thing that you all go through together.
[1:17:11] Speaker 1: And so he married a girl, one of those girls, right,
[1:17:16] Speaker 1: and fifteen, one of the fifteen he was around the fifteen.
[1:17:18] Speaker 1: I was one of the fifteen. He married one of
[1:17:20] Speaker 1: the girls.
[1:17:21] Speaker 2: Would know who I went to university with.
[1:17:24] Speaker 1: And he said to me, he said to me the
[1:17:27] Speaker 1: other night, he goes, oh, man, he goes, didn't she
[1:17:31] Speaker 1: fucking hate you? And then she goes, God, she hated you,
[1:17:35] Speaker 1: didn't she? And I was like, I had no idea.
[1:17:40] Speaker 1: I had no idea. I always thought me and her
[1:17:42] Speaker 1: had a nice bit of repartee, Like we had a
[1:17:44] Speaker 1: little bit of back and forth, you know. I teased
[1:17:47] Speaker 1: her a bit, she teased me a bit. I thought.
[1:17:48] Speaker 1: It turns out she fucking hated me. Right, that's not
[1:17:52] Speaker 1: my memory of school. But he was married to the woman,
[1:17:55] Speaker 1: so she would have told him. She would have. Oh no,
[1:17:57] Speaker 1: it turns out she told him several times. And I
[1:18:01] Speaker 1: said to him, as I was leaving the but and
[1:18:03] Speaker 1: this is true. She fancied, this is true as we
[1:18:06] Speaker 1: were leaving, because they we already dating back then. As
[1:18:08] Speaker 1: I was leaving, I turned to him and I said.
[1:18:12] Speaker 1: I said, well, if you see her, because they've got
[1:18:14] Speaker 1: a kid so they still communicate, tell her. I said hi.
[1:18:20] Speaker 1: And then as I was leaving, I thought to myself
[1:18:22] Speaker 1: and this is the truth. I ten I went what
[1:18:25] Speaker 1: was her name again? And then he told me your
[1:18:28] Speaker 1: name and I go tell her. I didn't remember it
[1:18:38] Speaker 1: was

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