# Episode 548 | Trapped in the Closet

An episode of [New Rory & MAL](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1572182022), 22 Sep 2026, 1 h 48 min.

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Happy Monday! The guys kick this episode off with a weekend recap, and find out the meaning of each others’ names. Usher crowns himself the “King of R&B”, Baby D debates what artist, past or present, would make the best streamer, and HBO’s ‘Jay-Z in 8’ documentary releases its first two episodes. Speaking of Hov, rumors circulate the internet that Jay is having trouble finding a Super Bowl headliner, and that he may end up taking the stage himself. Drake’s “FOMO” videos start populating on streaming, and the guys discuss what Lil Durk’s return to music will be like. AZ Chike’s album, “No Rest for the Wicked” drops, as well as an alleged Pusha T and Pharrell leak. Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://www.boostmobile.com/promo/25-forever See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:35] Speaker 1: It is officially the last day of summer since we
[0:37] Speaker 1: are speaking about time.
[0:38] Speaker 2: This is the last day of summer?
[0:39] Speaker 1: Officially?
[0:41] Speaker 3: I don't know.
[0:41] Speaker 1: The groundhog has to do something, right? I don't know.
[0:44] Speaker 1: Is that that time of year? No, not yet.
[0:48] Speaker 3: The official start off on the calendar is the 22nd.
[0:50] Speaker 1: Well, it was a little breezy yesterday and it's a
[0:52] Speaker 1: little breezy today. It's my type of weather out there.
[0:55] Speaker 2: Yesterday was raining all day. It was a perfect Sunday.
[0:57] Speaker 1: Oh, it was amazing.
[0:59] Speaker 2: Love a rainy Sunday.
[1:00] Speaker 1: Does this make me a terrible father?
[1:02] Speaker 3: No.
[1:03] Speaker 1: I woke up excited.
[1:05] Speaker 2: I don't even know what you're about to ask me,
[1:06] Speaker 2: but no.
[1:07] Speaker 1: I woke up excited that it was raining. And then
[1:09] Speaker 1: I looked at the weather app. I was like, oh,
[1:10] Speaker 1: and it's raining all day. All day. Sorry, Amara. No park.
[1:14] Speaker 1: I'm not chasing you for the next six hours.
[1:16] Speaker 2: No park today.
[1:17] Speaker 1: Can't do it. I chased her all around upstate the
[1:19] Speaker 1: day before. I was fucking exhausted. So yeah, I like
[1:23] Speaker 1: the rainy day and I like the weather. This is
[1:26] Speaker 1: my time of year is coming.
[1:27] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:27] Speaker 1: But it is New York, so it could be 90
[1:29] Speaker 1: degrees in two days for all I know.
[1:31] Speaker 3: No, I think we've seen, you know, I think this
[1:33] Speaker 3: is it. I think we're now going to live like
[1:35] Speaker 3: high 60s, like low 70s from the rest of this.
[1:40] Speaker 2: Until winter, of course.
[1:42] Speaker 1: Peach, that's when we come alive. Nice little sweater, long shirt.
[1:45] Speaker 1: That's y'all time.
[1:46] Speaker 2: That's y'all time.
[1:46] Speaker 1: Can't tell us nothing at that time. Whatever gets cold outside.
[1:49] Speaker 1: Cider time.
[1:50] Speaker 2: That's when Peach throws shorts on.
[1:51] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:54] Speaker 1: Ankle exposure.
[1:54] Speaker 3: Yeah, as soon as it hit 30 degrees, the ankle
[1:57] Speaker 3: socks come off of these.
[1:58] Speaker 1: That's a fact. This month is tough for me, though,
[2:01] Speaker 1: because the San Gennaro Festival is happening. And, Mo, I'm
[2:03] Speaker 1: a weak man. When I see the red sauce, I'm weak.
[2:06] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[2:06] Speaker 1: I was telling you guys in the group chat, I
[2:07] Speaker 1: started eating veal parm and pasta at 1130 in the morning.
[2:10] Speaker 1: I'm weak. I can't do it. All right, man. I
[2:12] Speaker 1: walk past it. That's what it's for. I should stop. Yeah. But, yeah,
[2:18] Speaker 1: I'm weak. I don't know if I'll be able to
[2:19] Speaker 1: do it.
[2:20] Speaker 2: Baby, did y'all went to San Gennaro on, was it
[2:22] Speaker 2: last Thursday?
[2:23] Speaker 4: Me and Peach did. Yes, we did.
[2:24] Speaker 1: How was it?
[2:25] Speaker 4: It was good. We got some fried ravioli.
[2:28] Speaker 1: Fried ravioli.
[2:29] Speaker 4: Yeah, fried ravioli with meatballs.
[2:30] Speaker 3: The doctor going to be shaking your feet and you're
[2:32] Speaker 3: saying like dice.
[2:33] Speaker 4: And he had, he got some, you got panela vodka,
[2:37] Speaker 4: right Peach?
[2:38] Speaker 1: Yeah. You just work it off on the Ferris wheel.
[2:40] Speaker 4: And we got... I mean, I feel like the walking
[2:43] Speaker 4: through the festival is, you know, kills more calories than
[2:46] Speaker 4: the Ferris wheel.
[2:46] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a nice walk.
[2:47] Speaker 3: Like to walk around.
[2:48] Speaker 4: Yeah. Get a little pina colada. I came here, put
[2:52] Speaker 4: some scotch in mine.
[2:55] Speaker 1: It's a great thing to visit like once or twice,
[2:57] Speaker 1: but our proximity to it, it makes it tough for
[3:00] Speaker 1: day to day.
[3:00] Speaker 4: You just have to walk like by those smells every day.
[3:03] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[3:04] Speaker 1: So we all need to be strong.
[3:06] Speaker 4: So you can't eat like any of that stuff because
[3:07] Speaker 4: of your.
[3:08] Speaker 1: No, I can, but I shouldn't be eating veal parm
[3:11] Speaker 1: at 1130 in the morning. Even like before record, I'll start,
[3:14] Speaker 1: I'll like take a nap in the middle of this. Yes,
[3:18] Speaker 1: just it's too heavy food. What's veal again? Like baby cow.
[3:21] Speaker 1: Baby cow, yeah.
[3:23] Speaker 2: He has a daughter and he's eating baby cow.
[3:26] Speaker 4: My name means baby cow.
[3:27] Speaker 2: You've seen somebody's- In Greek.
[3:30] Speaker 1: Wait.
[3:30] Speaker 5: You eat me.
[3:31] Speaker 1: Wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
[3:33] Speaker 3: What?
[3:33] Speaker 1: You have been laughing at me for five years doing
[3:36] Speaker 1: this podcast.
[3:36] Speaker 2: Your name means what?
[3:37] Speaker 1: When I said my name means Red King. Loudest you've
[3:40] Speaker 1: ever laughed. You hit notes I'd never heard you hit before.
[3:43] Speaker 2: Damaris means baby cow.
[3:46] Speaker 3: Yeah. The name Damaris comes from the... Thank you, Ryan.
[3:49] Speaker 1: Appreciate that.
[3:49] Speaker 3: Calf.
[3:50] Speaker 4: Baby calf.
[3:50] Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Or heifer. Heifer is more accurate for sure.
[3:56] Speaker 1: You know what? See?
[3:58] Speaker 3: See?
[4:00] Speaker 1: I knew it was in proximity. I didn't know.
[4:03] Speaker 3: I didn't know it went back to the Greek times,
[4:05] Speaker 3: but I knew Heffa was somewhere in there.
[4:07] Speaker 2: Like, whenever I think of Damaris, it's Heffa.
[4:10] Speaker 1: No, names sometimes are destined. The way Rory Gaelic read,
[4:14] Speaker 1: I have red hair. Like, you know, our names are.
[4:17] Speaker 4: The king part, I don't know about that.
[4:18] Speaker 1: I left that part out because I'm humble.
[4:21] Speaker 4: All right.
[4:21] Speaker 1: Amongst all the peasants. What is your name again?
[4:23] Speaker 3: I'm humble.
[4:23] Speaker 4: Ray King.
[4:24] Speaker 1: Red King?
[4:25] Speaker 3: Yeah, that you guys laughed at. And the whole time
[4:26] Speaker 3: we had Heffa over here. Yeah, Heffa is like, that's golden.
[4:31] Speaker 3: So Red King, Heifer. I think my name is the
[4:33] Speaker 3: beautiful one.
[4:35] Speaker 5: It also means gentle and tamed, which I didn't want to.
[4:38] Speaker 4: Read that part.
[4:38] Speaker 2: Ain't nothing gentle or tamed about you.
[4:40] Speaker 3: Zero.
[4:50] Speaker 1: I couldn't help. I'm sorry. Thank you so much. It
[4:52] Speaker 1: was right there, Rory. It was right there. It's fine.
[4:54] Speaker 1: All they heard was a long beep. They heard a
[4:56] Speaker 1: long beep. That's all they heard. I hope you at
[4:59] Speaker 1: least got Damaris' reaction with the beep.
[5:03] Speaker 6: Oh, man.
[5:04] Speaker 2: Ryan, what does your name mean in American?
[5:09] Speaker 1: And is Ryan even your real name or like, that's
[5:12] Speaker 1: your Americanized name that you just gave to school? That's
[5:16] Speaker 1: your 7-Eleven name. Your customer service name. Yeah, everybody that
[5:18] Speaker 1: work at 7-Eleven, like, your name is not Eric, man.
[5:22] Speaker 1: You are an Indian.
[5:23] Speaker 4: Your real name is Ryan? Yes. Okay, what does Yi mean?
[5:29] Speaker 1: You don't got a Chinese name? You know what Yi means?
[5:30] Speaker 1: That's from the Yi clan.
[5:32] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[5:34] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like, come on, Yi is like Smith.
[5:35] Speaker 1: No, it really is. No, it really is. Yi is
[5:41] Speaker 1: Smith in China.
[5:42] Speaker 4: Oh my God. Surplus.
[5:46] Speaker 1: Surplus. Easy. Peaceful. Okay. Okay. So that's like your family
[5:53] Speaker 1: crest is that symbol. Yeah.
[5:55] Speaker 3: Okay.
[5:56] Speaker 4: Okay.
[5:56] Speaker 1: So that's how you spell it? Y-I or Y-E-E? Y-E-E
[5:59] Speaker 1: but in like you pronounce it in Toisan like that. Toisan.
[6:04] Speaker 1: You got it.
[6:04] Speaker 3: Toisan.
[6:05] Speaker 1: Toisan.
[6:06] Speaker 4: I can't believe I didn't notice that Angela Yee was Asian.
[6:09] Speaker 4: That was, I would never forgive myself for that.
[6:11] Speaker 1: When did you, you just noticed that now?
[6:14] Speaker 4: No, I remember last year y'all told me and I
[6:16] Speaker 4: was like, yo, she Asian and y'all was like, what
[6:17] Speaker 4: the fuck you thought the Yee man? And I'm like,
[6:19] Speaker 4: I don't know, people be at the stage name.
[6:20] Speaker 3: Her name was Angela Yee and didn't just look at her.
[6:24] Speaker 3: Asian didn't jump out at all to you at all.
[6:26] Speaker 3: You was like, oh, that's just Angela.
[6:27] Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. Congrats. She got engaged. Congrats to Angela Yee.
[6:31] Speaker 1: That's amazing.
[6:33] Speaker 2: Congrats, Angela.
[6:34] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. Are we really just going to pass
[6:37] Speaker 1: over that Maul said his name means the beautiful one? Yeah.
[6:40] Speaker 4: In what?
[6:43] Speaker 1: Ryan said in what? In the Bronx. In the Bronx.
[6:50] Speaker 4: In Spanish it means evil.
[6:52] Speaker 3: First of all, you spelled my name J-A-M-I-L. That's how
[6:55] Speaker 3: you spelled my name.
[6:56] Speaker 1: Let's start this.
[6:57] Speaker 2: Look, the marriage is trying to be funny.
[6:58] Speaker 1: Sorry.
[7:01] Speaker 3: Arabic.
[7:02] Speaker 4: Ryan. In ancient Tremont. Beautiful or handsome.
[7:08] Speaker 1: Look at me, baby D. Why you, yo, you a hate. Yo,
[7:14] Speaker 1: I never knew how much of a hater.
[7:15] Speaker 4: You called me a heifer.
[7:17] Speaker 1: No. That's what your parents called you in Greek.
[7:20] Speaker 3: In Greek, they would call you a heifer. I'm not
[7:22] Speaker 3: calling you a heifer. I'm just saying it made sense.
[7:24] Speaker 3: I could kind of see. Yeah.
[7:25] Speaker 1: You know. In Astoria, Queens, you're known as the heifer.
[7:28] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[7:28] Speaker 1: That's all. I'm just mad because my name means handsome.
[7:34] Speaker 1: I'm a king, so I mean, guys try to clown me,
[7:38] Speaker 1: but that's what they do to kingdoms.
[7:39] Speaker 3: Baby D, what are you sipping? That's pissing me off.
[7:43] Speaker 3: Is that what you pulled out the fridge? Why you
[7:45] Speaker 3: put it in that cup?
[7:46] Speaker 1: Is that from the festival?
[7:47] Speaker 4: Well, y'all don't allow me to have no labels up
[7:48] Speaker 4: on my desk, so I put it in a different cup.
[7:51] Speaker 3: Oh, well, that you definitely can't have on the table.
[7:54] Speaker 3: That bottle, you can never put that bottle on the table.
[7:56] Speaker 3: Let me tell you the history of that company. I
[7:59] Speaker 3: don't even know what it was.
[8:00] Speaker 2: Oh, you know what it was. Go look in the fridge.
[8:03] Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha. Understandable. It's coffee.
[8:06] Speaker 4: It's iced coffee.
[8:08] Speaker 1: Oh, that was the... Did you check the expiration date?
[8:11] Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
[8:12] Speaker 1: Oh, now I know. Yeah, that company's celebrating a holiday today. Yeah,
[8:15] Speaker 1: sugar doesn't expire. I suppose. Yeah. What'd you guys do
[8:20] Speaker 1: over the weekend?
[8:21] Speaker 2: What did I do this weekend? I went to the outlets.
[8:27] Speaker 1: Nice. Love an outlet. Went to go see what they had.
[8:30] Speaker 1: Some shame. Outlets had stuff when you were a kid.
[8:33] Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a lot of adult things
[8:35] Speaker 1: in outlets anymore. Yeah.
[8:40] Speaker 3: I was wondering.
[8:40] Speaker 2: Can't go to the outlets by myself?
[8:41] Speaker 4: Yeah, you can.
[8:42] Speaker 1: Shopping.
[8:43] Speaker 4: I just wondered if you went by yourself.
[8:44] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[8:45] Speaker 1: You want to go next time I go?
[8:46] Speaker 7: Sure.
[8:47] Speaker 4: We using your car?
[8:49] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[8:49] Speaker 4: Okay, we can go. I was just wondering if you
[8:51] Speaker 4: went by yourself.
[8:52] Speaker 1: It's a long drive.
[8:53] Speaker 2: For me, it's not that far.
[8:55] Speaker 1: Like an hour.
[8:56] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. True. Okay. Makes sense.
[8:57] Speaker 1: Yeah. I ended up in the upstate New York Walmart
[9:01] Speaker 1: where a pod listener pulled me aside and whispered, what
[9:05] Speaker 1: are you doing here? And I said, I don't know either, man.
[9:10] Speaker 3: Somebody asked me that one day in the Bronx. In
[9:12] Speaker 3: the Bronx is funny as fuck. I'm from here. I'm
[9:18] Speaker 3: from right there. Like, what are you talking about? What
[9:20] Speaker 3: am I doing in the Bronx?
[9:21] Speaker 1: I'm going to see my mom.
[9:22] Speaker 2: Yeah, like, I grew up three minutes from here. That's
[9:26] Speaker 2: all I know.
[9:27] Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I probably didn't belong in that Walmart,
[9:29] Speaker 1: but still, Walmart's there. Machine gun? No.
[9:33] Speaker 4: Not in New York.
[9:35] Speaker 1: Well, no, they sold guns at that one.
[9:37] Speaker 4: Really?
[9:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, Kia was beside us. It was like, there's guns there.
[9:40] Speaker 1: I was like, we're at a fucking Walmart.
[9:42] Speaker 2: You can get suntan lotion in a Glock.
[9:45] Speaker 1: Even at like the next morning goods in Long Island,
[9:47] Speaker 1: you could buy guns. You have to have like a
[9:49] Speaker 1: license that's really hard to get. But yeah, you still
[9:51] Speaker 1: buy them. Oh, yeah. I forgot.
[9:53] Speaker 4: It's just in New York City.
[9:54] Speaker 1: You can't have. Yeah.
[9:56] Speaker 5: You don't have the right to defend your home. But
[9:58] Speaker 5: in other parts of New York, you can.
[10:00] Speaker 1: No the person that breaks in your house has more
[10:01] Speaker 1: rights yeah he'll be home he'll be out an hour
[10:05] Speaker 1: you break in your house rape you and you'll be
[10:07] Speaker 1: doing light for your dog yeah if you fight if
[10:09] Speaker 1: you shoot at him running out the door no that's
[10:12] Speaker 1: for real you can't new york new jersey you cannot
[10:14] Speaker 1: shoot at the person that's.
[10:15] Speaker 2: Robbing you it's crazy as hell.
[10:17] Speaker 4: If they're if they're running away you cannot.
[10:20] Speaker 1: They in my house. They're in my hallway.
[10:22] Speaker 3: You think I'm supposed to be like, oh, wow, he
[10:23] Speaker 3: just made it out the door.
[10:24] Speaker 1: I can't kill him now? And I'm supposed to trust
[10:26] Speaker 1: that this criminal is just running the other way? Yeah,
[10:28] Speaker 1: like crazy as hell.
[10:29] Speaker 2: He might be running to go get something else.
[10:30] Speaker 1: Exactly. He's about to.
[10:31] Speaker 4: Let his man in.
[10:32] Speaker 1: He's about to let some niggas in.
[10:34] Speaker 4: Ain't no fun if the homies can't get in.
[10:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy as hell.
[10:37] Speaker 4: That's not funny.
[10:38] Speaker 3: Sorry.
[10:39] Speaker 1: But no, we were in hunting territory. So, yeah, there
[10:41] Speaker 1: was a lot of rifles. But we were picking up
[10:43] Speaker 1: Legos for a birthday party. Okay. Yeah, which I know
[10:47] Speaker 1: it was never really my story to tell, but now
[10:49] Speaker 1: that Kia has put it on, she started a YouTube page,
[10:52] Speaker 1: Life with Kia, I believe is the name. We were
[10:54] Speaker 1: at the Jay-Z show, and sorry that you guys have
[10:56] Speaker 1: to hear about this Jay-Z show one more fucking time.
[10:59] Speaker 1: But Extra Innings was delayed until 3 o'clock in the morning.
[11:02] Speaker 1: I was there with Kia, some of her friends, some
[11:04] Speaker 1: of my friends, all of us just chilling. And Kia
[11:06] Speaker 1: gets a DM from somebody saying, I'm your birth mother's
[11:11] Speaker 1: best friend, and I'm sitting next to you at the show.
[11:14] Speaker 1: So Kia was adopted. So then we find this woman
[11:18] Speaker 1: and Kia. It's all on our YouTube page. It's her
[11:20] Speaker 1: story to tell. Go check it out. It's an insane story.
[11:23] Speaker 1: It was insane to witness, but again, not my story
[11:26] Speaker 1: to tell, but now she has it on her YouTube page.
[11:28] Speaker 1: So we went upstate to meet. She had already met
[11:30] Speaker 1: her birth mom after that. How did that go? It
[11:33] Speaker 1: went great. And you can go on her YouTube page
[11:35] Speaker 1: and she tells all the stories, the entire thing. So
[11:38] Speaker 1: it was her birth little brother's birthday party. So we
[11:42] Speaker 1: went up and, you know. Did the whole birthday thing.
[11:45] Speaker 1: It was my first time meeting all of them. She
[11:46] Speaker 1: had met them prior to. Did they welcome you? Yeah,
[11:50] Speaker 1: they were all really, really nice. Threw the pigskin around.
[11:54] Speaker 1: It was a good old birthday in upstate New York, man.
[11:57] Speaker 1: Come on, you throw the pigskin around. First time meeting
[12:00] Speaker 1: the family.
[12:00] Speaker 2: That's America for you.
[12:02] Speaker 1: You know, they were all very nice. They had a
[12:03] Speaker 1: bouncy house, trampoline. It was a good time. Hey, listen.
[12:08] Speaker 3: When you're going back, I can roll with you.
[12:15] Speaker 1: What'd you say? They got a bouncy house? Her birth
[12:18] Speaker 1: mother's husband, which isn't her birth father, but her birth
[12:22] Speaker 1: mother's husband had two ATVs, dirt bike, one of the
[12:28] Speaker 1: dune buggy joints. It was a lot going on. I see.
[12:32] Speaker 1: You ain't got to whisper. We going. They had one
[12:35] Speaker 1: of the mini four-wheelers for the kids. That shit was
[12:38] Speaker 1: moving faster than my Audi. And I was like, wait,
[12:41] Speaker 1: how did you... I was like, I took the governor out.
[12:44] Speaker 1: rework the whole thing. I was like, do that to
[12:46] Speaker 1: my car. Rework the configuration. They cap it at 40.
[12:50] Speaker 1: He had these little kids going 65 miles an hour.
[12:53] Speaker 1: They used to cap it at 40. I got it
[12:55] Speaker 1: up to 70.
[12:55] Speaker 3: Don't worry about it.
[13:00] Speaker 1: But no, it was a good time upstate. That's dope. Yeah.
[13:03] Speaker 1: And it was cool because, yeah, like I don't really
[13:06] Speaker 1: have siblings. So it's like, you know, Amar is not
[13:09] Speaker 1: really going to have first cousins. Like, you know, go
[13:11] Speaker 1: meet your first cousins and shit. Yeah. Absolutely.
[13:14] Speaker 6: You know.
[13:14] Speaker 4: That's cool.
[13:15] Speaker 1: It was a good time. And then Sunday, we sat
[13:18] Speaker 1: our asses down and did absolutely fucking nothing, which was amazing. So,
[13:21] Speaker 1: I'm here refreshed. Are we supporting the NFL?
[13:24] Speaker 3: I need to know before I start, like, going on Polymarket,
[13:28] Speaker 3: laying these bets down. Like, because after what they did to-
[13:31] Speaker 3: On Polymarket, you can- I got Macklemore. Bet if we
[13:34] Speaker 3: even want to support the NFL. Yeah, but I mean, like,
[13:38] Speaker 3: they said he couldn't go into Gillette Stadium.
[13:41] Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
[13:42] Speaker 3: Robert, you know, Robert made the call. So like, are
[13:46] Speaker 3: we supporting the NFL? Because just a few years ago,
[13:49] Speaker 3: we all collectively wasn't supporting the NFL. Well, I mean,
[13:53] Speaker 3: all they did was roll out the weekend, one half
[13:55] Speaker 3: time show, and.
[13:55] Speaker 1: Everybody was right back on. Like, oh, it's the weekend. Like,
[13:59] Speaker 1: come on, man.
[14:00] Speaker 3: He came out there with the bandages around his face,
[14:03] Speaker 3: and we was right back to watching the NFL every Sunday.
[14:06] Speaker 1: I've been watching the NFL. And this is one of
[14:10] Speaker 1: those things where I maybe sound pussy to some people,
[14:13] Speaker 1: but if I start boycotting everything that Robert Kraft is
[14:17] Speaker 1: involved with, there's not much I'd be able to do anymore.
[14:22] Speaker 1: So if I draw the line on certain things, it's
[14:25] Speaker 1: like I'm just going to pigeon my hole into a place.
[14:28] Speaker 2: That I can't.
[14:29] Speaker 1: I'm in dead silence with the lights off.
[14:32] Speaker 4: America has made it and capitalism has made it that
[14:35] Speaker 4: every single thing we do every day, including talking on
[14:38] Speaker 4: these phones, is contributing to the oppression of somebody.
[14:43] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Down to what you just said of the
[14:47] Speaker 1: label of the coffee that she's drinking that we're not
[14:49] Speaker 1: going to name who it is. Like, go look. You know,
[14:52] Speaker 1: they're they're going to back Robert Kraft in his decision.
[14:54] Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it's rough.
[14:58] Speaker 1: And I mean, yes, Robert Kraft is the owner of
[15:00] Speaker 1: the Patriots, which is in the NFL. They play at
[15:02] Speaker 1: Gillette Stadium. But he's also in. entertainment owner in the
[15:08] Speaker 1: sense that they play shows there. So yes, it's an
[15:11] Speaker 1: NFL thing, but is it really an NFL thing?
[15:13] Speaker 4: That isn't really an NFL thing. That is something different.
[15:17] Speaker 4: That's bigger than the NFL.
[15:21] Speaker 1: All right. Hey, listen.
[15:23] Speaker 4: At this point, this is what I tell.
[15:25] Speaker 1: I'm just answering you.
[15:26] Speaker 4: This is what I tell, and respectfully, some listeners aren't
[15:30] Speaker 4: going to relate to this, and at this point, I
[15:32] Speaker 4: don't give a fuck. To my black people, do what
[15:36] Speaker 4: makes you happy and find joy in anything you can.
[15:38] Speaker 4: If you want to watch sports, if you want to
[15:40] Speaker 4: do whatever, find joy in whatever you can. It is
[15:43] Speaker 4: not your job to stand up as people who are
[15:46] Speaker 4: also oppressed and save everyone who was oppressed. That is
[15:49] Speaker 4: white people's job. So, Maul, if you want to watch football,
[15:52] Speaker 4: I'm dead ass.
[15:53] Speaker 1: I'm not going to lie.
[15:55] Speaker 5: I'm not going to lie.
[15:56] Speaker 1: It's our job to stop doing what we're doing.
[15:58] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[15:58] Speaker 1: Like, so.
[16:00] Speaker 4: Enjoy what you want to enjoy, baby. You've suffered enough.
[16:02] Speaker 2: I'm just trying to make a few extra dollars on
[16:04] Speaker 2: the weekend.
[16:04] Speaker 1: That's all.
[16:05] Speaker 4: Do your thing.
[16:06] Speaker 1: Again, Polymarket, you can bet if we're even going to
[16:08] Speaker 1: support that. They have a whole genre for that. Yeah,
[16:11] Speaker 1: but that's just losing money at that point. Yes, they're
[16:13] Speaker 1: supporting NFL. I don't know. Again, and to what Damaris said,
[16:17] Speaker 1: there's probably going to be a lot of listeners that
[16:18] Speaker 1: are going to disagree with what we have to say here.
[16:19] Speaker 1: And I fully respect them disagreeing with us and looking
[16:22] Speaker 1: at us kind of weird with that. But I almost
[16:24] Speaker 1: view it as like, The Thanksgiving formula, that holiday represents
[16:28] Speaker 1: some of the worst shit ever. But it is nice
[16:32] Speaker 1: to use that day. Everyone's off so I can be
[16:34] Speaker 1: with my family and celebrate a day amongst people I love. No,
[16:39] Speaker 1: I'm not celebrating the holiday of Thanksgiving, but this is
[16:41] Speaker 1: something that we enjoy. Now, does this mean I support
[16:46] Speaker 1: everything that Thanksgiving stands for because I want to hang
[16:48] Speaker 1: with my mom that day? No. It's like the R.
[16:53] Speaker 2: Kelly thing. Separate the man from the music, right?
[16:56] Speaker 4: No, it's not the same thing. You know, that is actually,
[16:59] Speaker 4: we got to have a conversation about the internet was
[17:02] Speaker 4: up in arms about that too. We can talk about
[17:05] Speaker 4: that later.
[17:05] Speaker 1: About what? Let's talk about it now.
[17:08] Speaker 4: If we're moving forward from the topic we were just
[17:10] Speaker 4: moving on from. Usher crowned himself King R & B.
[17:14] Speaker 1: Okay.
[17:16] Speaker 4: And there were some people who had the backlash of, well,
[17:21] Speaker 4: you got it by default because the real King R &
[17:23] Speaker 4: B is in jail.
[17:26] Speaker 2: Let me tell you why I don't like that.
[17:29] Speaker 1: Number one, R.
[17:30] Speaker 3: Kelly has never been the performer or entertainer that Usher
[17:33] Speaker 3: has been.
[17:34] Speaker 4: Ever.
[17:34] Speaker 1: Big facts.
[17:35] Speaker 2: That's number one.
[17:36] Speaker 3: And we're not going to act like Usher didn't have
[17:39] Speaker 3: a classic album pre-R. Kelly going to prison and all
[17:43] Speaker 3: of these charges. He may have had two classic albums.
[17:46] Speaker 4: Well, I was going to say more than one classic album.
[17:48] Speaker 3: So, while I get it, R. Kelly's pen and the
[17:53] Speaker 3: songs that he's written for himself and other artists... Some
[17:56] Speaker 3: of the most timeless records probably ever in R & B.
[18:01] Speaker 3: But there's more than just writing a song when it
[18:06] Speaker 3: comes to being the king of a genre.
[18:09] Speaker 1: Yeah. Catalog, obviously. Star power. Performance. Longevity.
[18:19] Speaker 3: There's a lot of things that you have to factor
[18:21] Speaker 3: in when you say king.
[18:22] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[18:24] Speaker 3: That King means over a period of time you were
[18:27] Speaker 3: on top and you ruled. So I'm not mad at
[18:30] Speaker 3: Usher crowning. I don't think, I don't even think.
[18:32] Speaker 2: Usher crowned himself.
[18:34] Speaker 3: And sometimes you got to crown yourself because waiting for
[18:36] Speaker 3: niggas to crown you, you'll be dead.
[18:37] Speaker 1: Well, first of all, this, he's done this at every show.
[18:40] Speaker 1: When I saw this going viral over the weekend, I
[18:42] Speaker 1: was a little confused because at, The show I went to,
[18:45] Speaker 1: he put the crown on the exact... Like, that's part
[18:46] Speaker 1: of the set.
[18:47] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[18:47] Speaker 1: He didn't just do that at this specific show. He
[18:50] Speaker 1: does it at every one.
[18:51] Speaker 4: Well, somebody decided to make it a headline.
[18:53] Speaker 1: Well, maybe R. Kelly's last hit. What was R. Kelly's
[18:57] Speaker 1: last hit? Oh, God.
[18:58] Speaker 4: Who fucking knows?
[18:59] Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Same Girl with Usher.
[19:01] Speaker 4: No, I don't think that that's true.
[19:03] Speaker 1: That's definitely true. R. Kelly did not have a hit
[19:05] Speaker 1: after Same Girl. Well, life got... I'm telling y'all.
[19:11] Speaker 4: You're right. You're right. R. Kelly's last major hit song.
[19:16] Speaker 1: Yes.
[19:16] Speaker 4: The top 20 was same girl in 2007. All right.
[19:18] Speaker 4: So now you add that into the mix.
[19:28] Speaker 3: Father had to stretch out his hand and get it
[19:29] Speaker 3: from me.
[19:33] Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not mad.
[19:34] Speaker 4: Like I said.
[19:35] Speaker 1: The student that surpassed the teacher.
[19:36] Speaker 3: I mean, listen, man. R. Kelly's never been the performer
[19:39] Speaker 3: that Usher is.
[19:40] Speaker 1: Like, never.
[19:41] Speaker 4: Or the singer. When we did our drafts and y'all
[19:44] Speaker 4: got mad at me for saying that R. Kelly is
[19:47] Speaker 4: not that great of a singer. He's not a great singer.
[19:50] Speaker 1: Singer. And I hate that I'm talking about this piece
[19:52] Speaker 1: of shit.
[19:53] Speaker 4: I mean, we're talking about the music. You know what
[19:56] Speaker 4: I'm saying? Obviously, he's riding where he is. Nothing is
[20:00] Speaker 4: ever completely black and white. Nobody is completely all bad
[20:02] Speaker 4: or all evil.
[20:03] Speaker 1: Whatever.
[20:04] Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? I think we can still
[20:05] Speaker 4: talk about his contributions to the genre, especially when You know,
[20:08] Speaker 4: you're comparing it to his peers. I don't think that R.
[20:12] Speaker 4: Kelly sings better than Usher. R. Kelly cannot perform better
[20:14] Speaker 4: than Usher. The only thing R. Kelly really has going
[20:17] Speaker 4: for him is his discography and the work that he's
[20:20] Speaker 4: written for other artists. But if that's the case, then
[20:22] Speaker 4: Babyface is the king of R & B. Like if
[20:25] Speaker 4: we're going by writing.
[20:27] Speaker 1: Well, I think the most point we're saying that the king,
[20:29] Speaker 1: you have to check a lot of the boxes. And
[20:32] Speaker 1: I think Usher checks all of them. R. Kelly does
[20:35] Speaker 1: check a majority of them. of them, but I think
[20:37] Speaker 1: Usher does surpass him. Even if R. Kelly doesn't do
[20:40] Speaker 1: that weirdo shit, I still think we have this conversation
[20:43] Speaker 1: between Usher and R. Kelly. I don't think it's just
[20:46] Speaker 1: because he did that weirdo shit. Oh, thank God. Now
[20:48] Speaker 1: Usher just walks to the fucking throne. No, I still
[20:51] Speaker 1: think Usher is in that combo with or without the
[20:54] Speaker 1: past of R. Kelly. I think Usher can sing better,
[20:58] Speaker 1: but I mean, R. Kelly's discography is absolutely insane.
[21:03] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[21:03] Speaker 1: I don't know. Who else is Usher competing with? Why
[21:07] Speaker 1: is everyone even up in arms? The next person we
[21:10] Speaker 1: would maybe talk about is on tour with him and
[21:12] Speaker 1: said he's the king.
[21:16] Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's to me, it's not a
[21:19] Speaker 3: debate at all. I don't know how people are making
[21:21] Speaker 3: this a thing. And I hate this because this is
[21:23] Speaker 3: only given, you know, everything that Usher and Chris is
[21:26] Speaker 3: doing right now with this tour. And then you want
[21:28] Speaker 3: to put R. Kelly's name in the mix of this shit. Like,
[21:30] Speaker 3: get the fuck out of here with that, man.
[21:32] Speaker 2: Usher's the king of R & B. There's no reason
[21:35] Speaker 2: to debate it. It is what it is.
[21:36] Speaker 3: He's the king of R & B. Are there other
[21:39] Speaker 3: guys in the genre that are great at what they
[21:41] Speaker 3: do and have great careers? Yeah, but Usher has been
[21:45] Speaker 3: at the top of his game since he was probably 17,
[21:50] Speaker 3: 18 years old.
[21:52] Speaker 1: Yeah. When it comes to Army.
[21:54] Speaker 4: 16 maybe.
[21:54] Speaker 2: So like, what are we, you know what I'm saying?
[21:56] Speaker 1: It's like. When was my way?
[21:57] Speaker 5: And relevant. Usher has never not been relevant.
[22:00] Speaker 1: I can't think of a time where Usher was not relevant.
[22:02] Speaker 1: My entire life, I can't think of.
[22:04] Speaker 2: I tried to make him not relevant during Mars vs.
[22:06] Speaker 2: Venus era.
[22:07] Speaker 4: You crazy.
[22:07] Speaker 1: Wait, was that the one when he did the future album? No,
[22:09] Speaker 1: I love that album. I'm saying the people did.
[22:11] Speaker 5: The people tried.
[22:12] Speaker 1: To make it seem like, you know. What was on
[22:14] Speaker 1: that album?
[22:16] Speaker 4: Mars vs.
[22:16] Speaker 5: Venus is, that was like Guilty with T.I. Oh, yeah, yeah.
[22:20] Speaker 4: That was, that was. Cool.
[22:22] Speaker 1: No, I didn't like the Future album, but he was
[22:24] Speaker 1: still relevant and still the fucking king. Just because he
[22:26] Speaker 1: put out a weird dub album doesn't mean that you're not.
[22:30] Speaker 1: Was it Mars vs.
[22:31] Speaker 3: Venus?
[22:31] Speaker 1: Was that the song?
[22:32] Speaker 2: Was the title of the album Raymond vs.
[22:33] Speaker 1: Raymond?
[22:33] Speaker 5: That was Raymond vs.
[22:34] Speaker 4: Raymond.
[22:35] Speaker 1: Raymond vs.
[22:35] Speaker 3: Raymond.
[22:36] Speaker 1: Too many verses. Who doesn't like Raymond vs. Raymond?
[22:38] Speaker 3: A lot of people don't.
[22:38] Speaker 4: A lot of people don't. That's to me, after Confessions,
[22:41] Speaker 4: that's my favorite Usher album. After the 8701?
[22:45] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[22:45] Speaker 4: Favorite, I didn't say better.
[22:48] Speaker 1: Favorite. That's the same as well. That's the same thing. No, no,
[22:51] Speaker 1: it's not.
[22:52] Speaker 4: No, it's not.
[22:53] Speaker 1: What?
[22:53] Speaker 4: Favorite has a lot to do with the era that
[22:55] Speaker 4: it came out. That album came out, I think maybe
[22:58] Speaker 4: like my sophomore or junior year in high school. I
[23:00] Speaker 4: was like really dating for the first time, falling in love.
[23:03] Speaker 4: Like it has a lot of memories attached for me. 8701,
[23:05] Speaker 4: I was like, what, 10, 7? I was young as fuck.
[23:10] Speaker 4: So it doesn't have the same volume to me. No,
[23:13] Speaker 4: I love it.
[23:13] Speaker 3: It's an amazing album. It's just not my favorite. I
[23:16] Speaker 3: think I was two when Thriller came out.
[23:18] Speaker 4: It's an incredible album.
[23:21] Speaker 1: I found that motherfucker. And I think it's the best.
[23:25] Speaker 5: Confessions is the best. Confessions is a classic, perfect album.
[23:29] Speaker 1: 8701 is tough, though.
[23:30] Speaker 4: That shit different, man.
[23:32] Speaker 3: My way is a great yeah nah come on fam
[23:35] Speaker 3: we going back to 94 93 call me my way
[23:37] Speaker 3: is incredible yeah like this yeah let's just come on
[23:40] Speaker 3: man we not doing this um because there's a few
[23:44] Speaker 3: of them r kelly albums y'all gonna start rolling out
[23:45] Speaker 3: this can play that was some bullshit not everything was
[23:49] Speaker 3: chocolate yeah not everything was tp2. com like get the fuck
[23:53] Speaker 3: out of here it was a lot of them albums
[23:55] Speaker 3: where it was like man get this shit out of
[23:56] Speaker 3: here then he got into that.
[23:57] Speaker 2: Whole What was that whole play you wrote?
[24:00] Speaker 1: Trapped in the Closet. That whole series. Chill, chill, chill, chill.
[24:02] Speaker 3: Don't do that.
[24:03] Speaker 4: All right, all right, hold on.
[24:04] Speaker 3: I'm just saying, when the last time- Trapped in the
[24:05] Speaker 3: Closet was genius. See, I think we was just caught
[24:08] Speaker 3: up in the moment. Go back and look at that
[24:10] Speaker 3: shit now. I wouldn't because I wouldn't- That shit worse
[24:12] Speaker 3: than Tyler Perry shit. Nah, I still know Trapped in
[24:14] Speaker 3: the Closet from top to bottom.
[24:15] Speaker 1: Oh my God, a rubber.
[24:17] Speaker 3: Yeah, like it was a lot of that shit that
[24:18] Speaker 3: was trash. We just hadn't seen nothing like that.
[24:22] Speaker 4: I don't think that it was trash.
[24:24] Speaker 1: We hadn't seen nothing like that. Because no one would
[24:26] Speaker 1: make some shit like that.
[24:27] Speaker 4: But you still don't have anything like that.
[24:28] Speaker 1: No.
[24:28] Speaker 4: All right.
[24:28] Speaker 1: The first, when they premiered like those first few ones,
[24:31] Speaker 1: what was that? Was it on BET that they premiered them? Premier?
[24:35] Speaker 1: I can't remember. I remember when they did the first
[24:37] Speaker 1: few chapters. That was great. And like, holy shit, this
[24:40] Speaker 1: is really like a soap opera that he's singing. Once
[24:42] Speaker 1: it got to like chapter 50, it was like... Who
[24:45] Speaker 1: listened to that?
[24:46] Speaker 3: All right.
[24:48] Speaker 4: Chill.
[24:48] Speaker 1: They had Michael K. Williams was the cop. Like, no,
[24:50] Speaker 1: I watched all the way to 75, I think.
[24:53] Speaker 4: Well, that's how I stopped at like 20. When did
[24:57] Speaker 4: the midget come from underneath the sink?
[24:59] Speaker 1: That was in the 20s. Yeah. Yeah.
[25:00] Speaker 4: Like that's what I'm saying.
[25:01] Speaker 1: But those first like 12 chapters, those were, you know,
[25:05] Speaker 1: it was a little cheesy, but. We had never seen,
[25:08] Speaker 1: it was like a play. We had never seen some shit.
[25:09] Speaker 1: It was Tyler Perry before Tyler Perry. A lot of
[25:11] Speaker 1: them chapters was bullshit is all I'm saying. No, it
[25:14] Speaker 1: got crazy. It was a few that was like, okay, that.
[25:16] Speaker 2: Was dope, the writing on that. It's like, all right, cool.
[25:18] Speaker 2: But it got to a point where it was like, man,
[25:20] Speaker 2: get out of here. This shit is trash.
[25:23] Speaker 1: But again, we was caught up in a moment. It
[25:24] Speaker 1: was a moment. It was like, okay, R.
[25:26] Speaker 3: Kelly's doing this thing that we've never seen any artists
[25:29] Speaker 3: really do.
[25:29] Speaker 2: All right, I get it. Was that streaming? Would that
[25:32] Speaker 2: be considered streaming?
[25:34] Speaker 1: What do you mean?
[25:35] Speaker 3: No.
[25:35] Speaker 4: That shit was like on DVDs and shit.
[25:37] Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying?
[25:38] Speaker 2: Like, was that streaming before streaming?
[25:40] Speaker 4: No. You weren't streaming anything.
[25:44] Speaker 2: I think Thriller was the first stream, though.
[25:47] Speaker 1: But what do you mean by stream? What are you
[25:49] Speaker 1: talking about? I think Thriller was the first thing. I
[25:50] Speaker 1: don't know what you mean by that. Like a long
[25:52] Speaker 1: music video? Yeah, that was the first thing. There's a
[25:54] Speaker 1: movie called The Blues Brothers.
[25:55] Speaker 4: Oh, you mean streaming like streaming. I get what you're saying.
[25:59] Speaker 4: I get what you're saying.
[26:00] Speaker 5: I thought he meant like DSP streaming.
[26:02] Speaker 4: I'm like, no.
[26:03] Speaker 1: I'm still lost. Explain.
[26:04] Speaker 4: He means streaming like Kai Sinat streaming.
[26:09] Speaker 5: But, but no, that was not.
[26:10] Speaker 2: No, that's not what I mean. You just fucked my whole, nevermind.
[26:13] Speaker 1: Cause I don't think you know what you mean.
[26:15] Speaker 3: Huh?
[26:15] Speaker 2: I don't think you know what you mean. I'm just
[26:17] Speaker 2: saying like the first like.
[26:18] Speaker 3: Long form, like music video connected to an album rollout.
[26:23] Speaker 1: Like, yeah.
[26:25] Speaker 4: Oh, that's what you mean. As far as promotion, you
[26:28] Speaker 4: keep using the word stream. Stream means live.
[26:30] Speaker 1: I think so.
[26:30] Speaker 4: So that's what was confusing everybody.
[26:32] Speaker 3: I said, I'm just saying that was like considered the
[26:33] Speaker 3: first one though.
[26:34] Speaker 2: That's as live as you can get.
[26:35] Speaker 1: Well, Ryan's pulling up a.
[26:39] Speaker 3: Nah Ryan wanna go to Yoko Ono get out of
[26:41] Speaker 3: here with this shit stop trying to stop trying to
[26:43] Speaker 3: put your culture in our culture like stop y'all always
[26:45] Speaker 3: trying to throw y'all a little like get out of
[26:47] Speaker 3: here with that shit don't pull up Yoko Ono you.
[26:49] Speaker 1: Know that was just her first name her last name
[26:50] Speaker 1: is Yi it's Yoko Ono Yi that would be funny
[26:55] Speaker 1: if Yoko yo can you imagine streaming if John Lennon
[26:58] Speaker 1: was with Yoko Ono like in the streaming era.
[27:03] Speaker 3: That would be watching their stream. Watching John Lennon live
[27:06] Speaker 3: stream is crazy.
[27:07] Speaker 4: No.
[27:07] Speaker 1: Cause remember they did, didn't they do like a bet-a-thon?
[27:10] Speaker 2: Something like that.
[27:11] Speaker 1: I think if I remember correctly, like it was for
[27:13] Speaker 1: like world hunger. Yeah. Imagine the Yoko Ono, John Lennon
[27:17] Speaker 1: bet-a-thon with Kai at the laptop.
[27:22] Speaker 2: Who would y'all like to see stream though? Like which artists?
[27:24] Speaker 1: Tupac.
[27:25] Speaker 4: Artists?
[27:26] Speaker 1: Tupac, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac.
[27:28] Speaker 4: Dead or alive?
[27:29] Speaker 1: Yeah. Tupac would have been the greatest streamer of all time.
[27:33] Speaker 3: A lot of streamers Michael Jackson fucked up you remember
[27:37] Speaker 3: you know that clip that always go viral when he
[27:38] Speaker 3: went shopping imagine imagine you see a nigga do that
[27:44] Speaker 3: when he went fishing what do you used to call
[27:45] Speaker 3: it fishing yo he was like how much is that
[27:47] Speaker 3: he was like that's 300,000 he said give me two
[27:48] Speaker 3: of those he was in there yo Mike Mike's bill
[27:53] Speaker 3: imagine if this was streaming Yo, imagine if that was
[27:56] Speaker 3: a live stream and you see Mike just running it
[27:59] Speaker 3: up like that. Yeah.
[28:00] Speaker 4: Are you crazy? Mike would have been a great streamer.
[28:02] Speaker 1: Whitney and Bobby.
[28:05] Speaker 4: Oh, please.
[28:05] Speaker 1: If we saw Whitney and Bobby stream. We got it now.
[28:08] Speaker 1: Blueface and Chris Shaw. Nah. Relax. Relax. Blueface and Chris Shaw.
[28:13] Speaker 1: Am I not allowed to say that?
[28:14] Speaker 3: That's JV. That's JV compared to what Bobby and Whitney was.
[28:17] Speaker 3: That's fresh for the football.
[28:18] Speaker 1: That's not even JV shit.
[28:19] Speaker 4: Bobby and Whitney, no editing.
[28:21] Speaker 1: Come on now.
[28:21] Speaker 4: What?
[28:22] Speaker 3: Just letting Bobby, catching Bobby on a wake up and
[28:25] Speaker 3: it ain't no more milk in the fridge.
[28:29] Speaker 1: And Superhead has her own stream and Bobby's on the couch.
[28:33] Speaker 3: Yo, yo, we missed out on some great shit, man.
[28:36] Speaker 3: We missed out on some great shit. Yeah, Michael Jackson,
[28:38] Speaker 3: a Michael Jackson live stream though. We would all like,
[28:42] Speaker 3: really like, you know who else would be an interesting
[28:44] Speaker 3: live stream?
[28:45] Speaker 1: Who?
[28:46] Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather might be an interesting live stream.
[28:49] Speaker 3: Like, it might be interesting to watch a nigga like
[28:51] Speaker 3: hop on the jet and and fly somewhere to watch
[28:54] Speaker 3: a game and then get back on a jet and
[28:55] Speaker 3: then go straight to the gym and work out for
[28:56] Speaker 3: like two hours.
[28:57] Speaker 1: That would be crazy. I mean, his 24 sevens were entertaining.
[29:00] Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
[29:01] Speaker 3: But like to be able to see Floyd like all
[29:04] Speaker 3: day and just watch him like just move around.
[29:08] Speaker 1: Okay.
[29:08] Speaker 2: Well, Michael Jackson, Whitney and Bobby for sure.
[29:10] Speaker 1: Okay.
[29:11] Speaker 4: So outside of Floyd, who's still alive? Would you be
[29:14] Speaker 4: interested in watching streaming that you think might actually do
[29:17] Speaker 4: it too?
[29:18] Speaker 1: Or is capable of doing it? This is not really
[29:20] Speaker 1: going to answer your question. And it was kind of
[29:22] Speaker 1: off piggybacking with Floyd. 2004 50 cent because streaming so lucrative,
[29:29] Speaker 1: he would commit to that more than he would commit
[29:31] Speaker 1: to music. And with fifties mentality at that point, he'd
[29:33] Speaker 1: probably be the funniest streamer of all time. 50 would
[29:37] Speaker 1: be up there with Pac, I think, as the greatest streamer.
[29:41] Speaker 1: He was bringing Rick Ross' baby mother shopping with a
[29:44] Speaker 1: flip cam. Can you imagine if he had a streaming
[29:46] Speaker 1: rig and all the time in the world? Yeah. That'd
[29:49] Speaker 1: be lit. He would be insane as a streamer. And
[29:53] Speaker 1: he'd commit. Whereas Floyd, I think, would be like, if
[29:58] Speaker 1: I got a fight, I'll do it. I think 50
[30:01] Speaker 1: with his work ethic would out-stream Kai with that 30-day shit.
[30:05] Speaker 3: The Rock?
[30:08] Speaker 1: Like in character all the time.
[30:09] Speaker 5: I was going to say, does anybody know what The
[30:11] Speaker 5: Rock is actually like?
[30:12] Speaker 2: Dwayne Johnson.
[30:13] Speaker 4: Dwayne Johnson. Do we know what he's really like like
[30:15] Speaker 4: off camera?
[30:15] Speaker 1: Probably like a really nice family man.
[30:17] Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm like, he's such a private person.
[30:18] Speaker 4: I don't.
[30:19] Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just want to see him for a
[30:21] Speaker 3: couple of days. I know he could work out at
[30:24] Speaker 3: like four in the morning.
[30:25] Speaker 4: If Ciara and Russ would stream, I wish somebody would
[30:27] Speaker 4: give them a TV show, which I'm sure they could
[30:29] Speaker 4: get it. They don't want it. I would watch Ciara
[30:31] Speaker 4: and Russ's family. I feel like a lot of people would.
[30:34] Speaker 4: Women wise anyway.
[30:35] Speaker 1: In this era, like They would have been a good
[30:39] Speaker 1: offset to the Osbourne family. Remember when they tried to
[30:41] Speaker 1: do crazy reality shows and they'd have a wholesome one
[30:45] Speaker 1: to balance the shit out? They'd be good for that now. Ozzy?
[30:50] Speaker 1: Oh my God.
[30:52] Speaker 3: Ozzy would have been crazy. Imagine you see a nigga
[30:56] Speaker 3: on live stream and just bite the head off.
[30:59] Speaker 1: Are you okay? Imagine that.
[31:01] Speaker 2: You just watch somebody on live stream and you take
[31:03] Speaker 2: a bird and just bite the head off.
[31:04] Speaker 1: Oh my God.
[31:07] Speaker 4: Oh, the Jackass Boys live stream?
[31:08] Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to end up killing themselves, though.
[31:11] Speaker 1: I was going to say, yeah. I don't know how
[31:13] Speaker 1: long it would last. Yeah. It was good that they
[31:15] Speaker 1: needed to change the lenses and like, all right, we'll
[31:18] Speaker 1: be back on in an hour. Go relax for a second.
[31:20] Speaker 1: Tom Green? I mean, he damn near did it before
[31:23] Speaker 1: it was a thing. Yeah.
[31:25] Speaker 2: Hits from the streets? Y'all don't remember Hits from the Streets?
[31:28] Speaker 1: Remind me. You don't know Hits? Hits from the Streets?
[31:31] Speaker 1: Come on, man. P, do you remember Hits from the Streets?
[31:34] Speaker 1: Is that MTV?
[31:35] Speaker 4: MTV?
[31:35] Speaker 3: Yeah come on man y'all don't remember hits from the
[31:37] Speaker 3: streets no we all said on bt how y'all don't
[31:41] Speaker 3: oh man that's fucked up man.
[31:42] Speaker 1: Oh i remember oh yeah no no i can right
[31:45] Speaker 1: by that uh one two three four fifth photo yes
[31:48] Speaker 1: yes i know.
[31:48] Speaker 3: Exactly what you're talking about what's my man's name yeah
[31:50] Speaker 3: of course yeah.
[31:51] Speaker 1: Yes i remember this yeah i remember that.
[31:54] Speaker 5: One of the first things he looked like tupac they didn't.
[31:58] Speaker 3: Used to say that who said that i never heard
[32:00] Speaker 3: nobody say that I never heard nobody say he looked
[32:03] Speaker 3: like Tupac.
[32:04] Speaker 1: Who said he looked like Tupac?
[32:05] Speaker 4: He did when he was younger.
[32:07] Speaker 1: Tupac? No. No damn Tupac. Yeah, I don't really see it.
[32:13] Speaker 4: You white.
[32:14] Speaker 1: You white? You don't see it?
[32:15] Speaker 2: You can't see that?
[32:16] Speaker 1: No, usually I would say all black people look like Tupac.
[32:23] Speaker 1: But no, I'm putting my 1A, 1B.
[32:26] Speaker 4: Tupac, and 50 as my final answer.
[32:28] Speaker 2: Give me Michael Jackson, Whitney, and Bobby.
[32:31] Speaker 1: Winnie and Bobby would be fucking crazy. Oh my God.
[32:34] Speaker 1: Never leaving the house.
[32:35] Speaker 4: I think Kiki Palmer would be a good streamer if
[32:37] Speaker 4: she started streaming. But she has so many other avenues
[32:40] Speaker 4: of media that you can't over extend yourself because people
[32:44] Speaker 4: will get tired of you.
[32:45] Speaker 1: Between 36 Chambers and Wu-Tang Forever album, I believe I
[32:51] Speaker 1: have the timeline correct. Wu-Tang bought a house in New
[32:55] Speaker 1: Jersey that they all lived in. All of them.
[32:59] Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
[32:59] Speaker 1: All the members, when they all got a little bit
[33:02] Speaker 1: of money, they all lived in one house. That would
[33:05] Speaker 1: have been the craziest streaming experience of all time. Yeah,
[33:09] Speaker 1: that would be up there for sure. That would be
[33:11] Speaker 1: fucking nuts. I don't know if we get Wu-Tang forever.
[33:15] Speaker 1: From them streaming? If they were streaming 24-7.
[33:20] Speaker 3: That would be crazy to just watch that, though. And
[33:22] Speaker 3: actually get the album from that? That would be crazy.
[33:25] Speaker 3: That would have been crazy.
[33:27] Speaker 1: But, I mean, part of me feels like I'm... happy
[33:29] Speaker 1: a lot of that didn't happen? Yeah, we didn't need
[33:32] Speaker 1: the cameras. Yeah. I like to thank Kylie of the
[33:35] Speaker 1: people that we're talking about too.
[33:37] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad the cameras wasn't around for certain eras
[33:40] Speaker 3: and around certain artists. I feel like it definitely would
[33:43] Speaker 3: have changed a lot of what we have. So, you know,
[33:47] Speaker 3: I'm on the side of everything happens for a reason
[33:49] Speaker 3: and doesn't happen for a reason.
[33:51] Speaker 1: With the unfortunate situation that happened with Pac, I am
[33:55] Speaker 1: happy that we really just got all of his profound thoughts.
[33:59] Speaker 1: Like we got some of his best thoughts out there.
[34:02] Speaker 1: We didn't need all of them. I don't need every
[34:05] Speaker 1: single thing that enters your head. Any human being on earth,
[34:07] Speaker 1: I think that's a problem where every thought is out there.
[34:11] Speaker 1: I like that I have that thought of Tupac, of
[34:14] Speaker 1: his most profound thoughts out there. Maul, you see Damaris
[34:21] Speaker 1: over there just overpaying for wireless? She does that from
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[34:48] Speaker 3: Damaris, did you know that based on the average annual
[34:49] Speaker 3: single line payment of AT & T, Verizon, and T-Mobile
[34:52] Speaker 3: customers compared to 12 months on the Boost Mobile Unlimited
[34:54] Speaker 3: plan as of January 2026?
[34:56] Speaker 1: For full offer details, visit BoostMobile.com. But did you guys
[35:05] Speaker 1: watch any of the HBO, Jay-Z, Rick Rubin? I didn't
[35:10] Speaker 1: catch it yet, man.
[35:11] Speaker 4: I haven't caught it yet.
[35:12] Speaker 1: You saw it?
[35:14] Speaker 3: Baby D?
[35:15] Speaker 4: No, I haven't caught it yet. I knew Rory would
[35:16] Speaker 4: watch it for us.
[35:18] Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm going to watch it tonight. It's two episodes
[35:20] Speaker 1: out right now. I watched both of them yesterday. So
[35:23] Speaker 1: is it coming out? It's like episodic. I don't know
[35:26] Speaker 1: how they're doing the rhythm of it. Okay.
[35:28] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[35:28] Speaker 1: Right now, at least on my TV, I only have
[35:31] Speaker 1: two of them. Okay. I had, I had, it's good.
[35:36] Speaker 1: It's good. I had mixed feelings at first about it
[35:39] Speaker 1: the same way I kind of felt about, remember when
[35:42] Speaker 1: Letterman did his Netflix?
[35:43] Speaker 2: So every Friday.
[35:44] Speaker 1: Every Friday. Remember when Letterman did his Netflix show? And
[35:50] Speaker 1: I wasn't shitting on Letterman because Letterman is obviously a
[35:52] Speaker 1: fucking goat.
[35:54] Speaker 4: It's okay to shit on people.
[35:56] Speaker 1: It was a lot like even when he did his
[35:57] Speaker 1: Jay-Z interview, like the guests that he was getting, I
[36:00] Speaker 1: wanted to hear things I had not heard before. Like
[36:06] Speaker 1: even when he did his Jay-Z interview, I mean, you
[36:08] Speaker 1: could probably rewind the tape of when we reacted to
[36:11] Speaker 1: it on the pod. I was like, I mean, this
[36:13] Speaker 1: felt like this was for my mom. Like, so you
[36:17] Speaker 1: grew up in Marcy, huh? Yeah. It's like, okay, this
[36:21] Speaker 1: is what we're wasting the few times Jay-Z ever speaks on.
[36:26] Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that's the case with this whatsoever.
[36:28] Speaker 1: I love that the focus is the music and the
[36:30] Speaker 1: lyrics and it's a real lyric breakdowns with the person
[36:33] Speaker 1: that wrote it and lived in those experiences. And Rick,
[36:36] Speaker 1: who is obsessed with music kind of guiding the entire thing.
[36:41] Speaker 1: It wasn't much that I didn't already know though. I
[36:45] Speaker 1: do love hearing Jay break down all his lyrics, but
[36:47] Speaker 1: it wasn't anything that I had not really heard Jay
[36:49] Speaker 1: speak about before. That was my first thought, which then later,
[36:54] Speaker 1: as the day went, I felt like it was a
[36:55] Speaker 1: selfish thought because not only as a Hovenger, but just
[37:00] Speaker 1: in general, there's plenty of new fans that speak with
[37:06] Speaker 1: such arrogance and such knowing of things now that we're
[37:11] Speaker 1: not around for any of this shit and know nothing
[37:14] Speaker 1: about it. Like we've shit on those new fans and
[37:17] Speaker 1: let's just use Jay-Z for an example when they're like,
[37:19] Speaker 1: Jay-Z's never been relevant. And they say it with such confidence.
[37:22] Speaker 1: And it's like, you're 21. You started listening to music
[37:26] Speaker 1: when Take Care came out. Why are you speaking with
[37:29] Speaker 1: such confidence that someone has literally had no impact on
[37:33] Speaker 1: the culture whatsoever? Not to say those people are now
[37:36] Speaker 1: going to wake up and be like, oh, I respect it.
[37:38] Speaker 1: But I do think there are a lot of young
[37:39] Speaker 1: fans like myself in the early 2000s that didn't know
[37:43] Speaker 1: a lot about 80s music. But I wanted to learn
[37:46] Speaker 1: about it. I love that it's coming from the horse's
[37:49] Speaker 1: mouth in this regard, because I think there are a
[37:51] Speaker 1: lot of young fans that do want to learn.
[37:54] Speaker 3: And this is a good experience for that. Not even
[37:57] Speaker 3: just young fans, though. I think that it's a whole
[38:01] Speaker 3: generation of people. to what you're saying. It's a lot
[38:06] Speaker 3: they don't know about Jay-Z, the artist, the person. Stories
[38:12] Speaker 3: that we obviously know and have heard just because we
[38:15] Speaker 3: follow the culture differently. But an indicator that was... Remember
[38:19] Speaker 3: when Robert Glasper was nominated? Chris Brown was like, who
[38:22] Speaker 3: the fuck is Robert Glasper? Now, you would think that
[38:25] Speaker 3: Chris Brown would know who Robert Glasper was, right? But
[38:29] Speaker 3: that just shows you the age gap. And then it's like,
[38:33] Speaker 3: even a Chris Brown... may not know.
[38:36] Speaker 1: And Black Radio 3 was like by far the best
[38:39] Speaker 1: R & B album that year. Right. But even Chris
[38:40] Speaker 1: Brown might not know.
[38:42] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[38:42] Speaker 1: Right.
[38:42] Speaker 2: Because Chris, he has a lot going on. He's in
[38:45] Speaker 2: his own world.
[38:46] Speaker 1: He's an artist.
[38:47] Speaker 3: He lives, he lives in his own world sometimes. Sometimes
[38:49] Speaker 3: you got to come out of your world to just
[38:51] Speaker 3: know who certain people are. So a lot of these
[38:54] Speaker 3: conversations we get from legends is going to sound repetitive.
[38:56] Speaker 1: Some of them.
[38:57] Speaker 3: Well, it's going to be like, I heard this story before,
[38:59] Speaker 3: heard that story. But then it's going to be a
[39:00] Speaker 3: lot that you hear. It's like, oh, wow, I never
[39:03] Speaker 3: knew that.
[39:04] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, it's, it's a terrible
[39:06] Speaker 1: music snob, um, point of view for me to have that. Oh,
[39:12] Speaker 1: I've heard this before.
[39:12] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[39:13] Speaker 1: Not everyone's a fucking loser. Like you were right. It's
[39:16] Speaker 1: like that, that has, has watched every single Jay-Z interview
[39:20] Speaker 1: and has been, you know, obsessed with this your entire life.
[39:24] Speaker 1: And Oh, there's one of your favorites. Like it's a
[39:26] Speaker 1: very snob. Like I had to catch myself in that
[39:28] Speaker 1: regard where I was like, Oh, heard this before like
[39:31] Speaker 1: you not everyone's a fucking loser like you yeah this
[39:33] Speaker 1: is new to someone else yeah so not in the
[39:36] Speaker 1: letterman way because i want to make that clear too
[39:39] Speaker 1: rick rubin started this entire series with the dynasty intro
[39:42] Speaker 1: mm-hmm Then went to meet the parents. We got Jay-Z
[39:45] Speaker 1: to break down, meet the parents. That is incredible to
[39:48] Speaker 1: me because that's not usually what they would do. But,
[39:51] Speaker 1: I mean, the stuff that they were highlighting, like Jay
[39:53] Speaker 1: has talked about the Biggie and Tupac stuff before. We
[39:57] Speaker 1: did get a little tidbit that that break in Brooklyn's Finest,
[40:04] Speaker 1: I think Big was going to say, this your final warning,
[40:07] Speaker 1: I'm not liked in California. Jay made him take that.
[40:09] Speaker 1: That's why there's a break before Tupac. Clark Kent comes
[40:12] Speaker 1: in on the hook because he made him take that
[40:14] Speaker 1: out because of the Tupac thing. That was new. I
[40:16] Speaker 1: had never heard that before. That was really cool. But no,
[40:20] Speaker 1: it's music we love and Jay breaking it down. I
[40:23] Speaker 1: see why they sat on this because I'm sure they
[40:24] Speaker 1: didn't really know what to do with it because it's
[40:27] Speaker 1: clearly old. Jay has dreads and I think they shot
[40:29] Speaker 1: it a few years ago. I'm sure they were trying
[40:32] Speaker 1: to figure out what purpose it would serve. And I
[40:34] Speaker 1: think now with the anniversary, it makes sense. I think
[40:39] Speaker 1: it's cool for young fans that are interested in this
[40:42] Speaker 1: and not the fucking weirdos on Twitter that want to
[40:45] Speaker 1: speak with, you know, full confidence in this stuff that
[40:49] Speaker 1: will shit on it. But yeah, I'm sure there's plenty
[40:51] Speaker 1: of kids that like Hov and want to learn more.
[40:54] Speaker 1: And this is a perfect example of that. It's like
[40:56] Speaker 1: the decoded book in visual form. So, I mean, I'm
[41:00] Speaker 1: going to watch every episode.
[41:01] Speaker 2: I think it adds to it adds to it.
[41:05] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[41:05] Speaker 2: To the whole story, to the whole legacy and the career. Um, see,
[41:09] Speaker 2: I'm gonna check it out.
[41:10] Speaker 3: Um, I know the episodes that came out, but I
[41:12] Speaker 3: didn't get a chance to watch it, but I'll watch
[41:13] Speaker 3: it tonight for sure.
[41:14] Speaker 4: And to piggyback off what you said, Rory, that's how
[41:17] Speaker 4: artists stay relevant. That's how, like, there's something new that
[41:20] Speaker 4: comes out about Michael Jackson all the time. So for example,
[41:24] Speaker 4: like when we, we got Tora because we said we
[41:26] Speaker 4: didn't really enjoy the Michael movie as much. It's like,
[41:28] Speaker 4: we didn't find out anything new. And it's like all
[41:30] Speaker 4: these young kids who are now enamored and obsessed because
[41:34] Speaker 4: they didn't know any of this information before.
[41:36] Speaker 1: So I got to stop doing that. And while I
[41:39] Speaker 1: do pride myself in like, I've never been as much
[41:43] Speaker 1: as like I loved underground hip hop. I was never
[41:45] Speaker 1: the fan that like got mad when someone surpassed it. Like, yeah,
[41:50] Speaker 1: I know you don't need to stay down here. Like
[41:51] Speaker 1: I like things I find for them to find success.
[41:53] Speaker 1: I was never one of those fans, but I have
[41:55] Speaker 1: to stop in this era as I get older where
[41:58] Speaker 1: I hear things like how you, how you didn't know that.
[42:01] Speaker 1: I got to stop being that person. Yeah. I have
[42:03] Speaker 1: to catch myself and be like, wait, When I was
[42:05] Speaker 1: that kid's age, did I ever like, I didn't know
[42:07] Speaker 1: that shit when I was that.
[42:08] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[42:09] Speaker 1: I didn't know everything about late 80s hip hop when
[42:13] Speaker 1: I was fucking 15. Like, why would I? You don't
[42:17] Speaker 1: know that Big Daddy Kane song?
[42:18] Speaker 3: No.
[42:19] Speaker 4: Right.
[42:19] Speaker 1: I'm 15. Yeah.
[42:20] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[42:21] Speaker 1: So I have to catch myself and stop being that person.
[42:25] Speaker 4: Snobby.
[42:26] Speaker 1: Yeah it's snobby it's arrogant and it also like i
[42:30] Speaker 1: feel like would turn young fans that want to get
[42:32] Speaker 1: to like that really want to know things like start
[42:35] Speaker 1: to feel like all right damn let me not even
[42:37] Speaker 1: speak anymore if i was supposed to know that shit
[42:40] Speaker 1: so i'm that's what this taught me in a very
[42:43] Speaker 1: let's make this about me way when i watched it
[42:46] Speaker 1: i have to stop doing.
[42:46] Speaker 3: This yeah cut your shit man At least I can
[42:50] Speaker 3: admit it.
[42:50] Speaker 1: That's part of growth.
[42:51] Speaker 2: No, listen, I appreciate that.
[42:53] Speaker 1: I definitely appreciate that. Staying on defending Jay-Z, if that's
[42:57] Speaker 1: not your thing, change the channel. There was a rumor
[43:01] Speaker 1: from a site that doesn't have any credibility, but it's
[43:03] Speaker 1: fun to talk about that stuff on podcasts. Jay-Z and
[43:07] Speaker 1: Roc Nation are reportedly struggling to secure a headliner for
[43:10] Speaker 1: the 2027 Super Bowl halftime show, and Jay-Z could end
[43:14] Speaker 1: up taking the stage himself via Daily Mail, which makes
[43:18] Speaker 1: it law-abiding.
[43:20] Speaker 2: Oh, I see what they doing.
[43:21] Speaker 1: I see it.
[43:23] Speaker 3: Oh, I see what they're doing. I see what they're doing.
[43:28] Speaker 3: Get it out there early. Couldn't find nobody.
[43:31] Speaker 1: So, hey, let Jay do it. Or that's a way
[43:35] Speaker 1: to say that's the only reason why Jay-Z's doing it
[43:39] Speaker 1: is because they couldn't find anyone. Now, my prediction without
[43:42] Speaker 1: speaking to anybody, I think Jay is going to do it.
[43:44] Speaker 1: I think Beyonce is going to be a part of it.
[43:46] Speaker 1: That's just my prediction with zero, zero, zero. Info, that's
[43:50] Speaker 1: me just throwing shit out there as a fan. But
[43:53] Speaker 1: reading that, Damaris and I were talking off mic, it
[43:57] Speaker 1: could be hard to find a halftime performer for the
[44:00] Speaker 1: Super Bowl. There's only so many A-listers around that can
[44:05] Speaker 1: fill that with the schedule and the right timing. Do
[44:08] Speaker 1: you think they asked everybody? I don't know that, but
[44:10] Speaker 1: how many people.
[44:12] Speaker 3: To your point, if people are turning it down, which
[44:15] Speaker 3: I don't think many people are turning down the Super Bowl.
[44:18] Speaker 1: Just your mans might be the only one I know of. Right.
[44:21] Speaker 3: Because why would you turn down the Super Bowl? Now
[44:23] Speaker 3: you have to pay for everything yourself, but your streaming
[44:26] Speaker 3: goes up through the roof.
[44:26] Speaker 1: All of that shit happens. I think Taylor's probably turning
[44:28] Speaker 1: it down. I'm pretty sure, too. I'm sure. I'm sure
[44:32] Speaker 1: people have turned it down not to say, no, I
[44:33] Speaker 1: don't want to do this. I can't do it right now.
[44:35] Speaker 4: I'm busy.
[44:36] Speaker 1: Yeah. It's not worked. Like, I need to dedicate the
[44:39] Speaker 1: next three months of my life. I could see Taylor.
[44:41] Speaker 1: Maybe Taylor. I'm sure she's turning it down. Maybe. Yeah, maybe. But,
[44:47] Speaker 1: I mean. We have a list here. Again, this is
[44:55] Speaker 1: probably Daily Mail that's telling us this, so don't quote us.
[44:58] Speaker 1: Adele has publicly stated she turned the offer down because
[45:00] Speaker 1: she felt the massive speculation is not about music. Dolly
[45:05] Speaker 1: Parton has. Drake we know has. Cardi turned down an
[45:09] Speaker 1: offer following her Grammy success citing desire for more stage experience. Pink.
[45:14] Speaker 1: Outkast turned down in 2004 because Three Stacks refused to
[45:17] Speaker 1: cut down their songs to fit the strict time limits.
[45:24] Speaker 1: This is all via Reddit. Don't quote us on this.
[45:28] Speaker 6: All right, man.
[45:30] Speaker 2: Where's Chris Brown at? Cut the shit. What are we
[45:34] Speaker 2: talking about here?
[45:35] Speaker 1: Chris and Usher.
[45:36] Speaker 2: What are we talking about here? I know Usher did it, but.
[45:41] Speaker 1: Where's Chris?
[45:42] Speaker 2: They not going to offer Chris Brown a Super Bowl?
[45:43] Speaker 4: We've talked about this a million times.
[45:45] Speaker 2: Why are they not offering Chris Brown a Super Bowl?
[45:49] Speaker 1: Well, we already know that it's not based off consistency
[45:53] Speaker 1: or moral value. He's just on that list that advertisers have.
[45:58] Speaker 1: He couldn't even do a fucking halftime at like a
[46:00] Speaker 1: celebrity basketball game. And again, people that have performed at halftime,
[46:06] Speaker 1: been a part of the NFL, have done way more
[46:08] Speaker 1: heinous things. And I'm not defending Chris Brown. I'm just
[46:10] Speaker 1: saying people have done way more heinous things. It's a fact.
[46:15] Speaker 1: It's a fact.
[46:15] Speaker 3: Like this shit, like when does it stop? But that's
[46:18] Speaker 3: just how, it's politics as usual, no pun intended.
[46:21] Speaker 1: Like, come on, man. Like, this shit got to stop.
[46:23] Speaker 1: But this is why Chris gets so angry. And I
[46:26] Speaker 1: understand when he lashes out on IG story. It's like
[46:29] Speaker 1: everything's on Piru. Because, yes, he watches people that have
[46:32] Speaker 1: been convicted of things worse than him get breaks that
[46:37] Speaker 1: he deserves that he can't get because of something that
[46:40] Speaker 1: happened when he was a kid. Again, not excusing it. Yeah,
[46:42] Speaker 1: he ended up just on that advertiser list. It's not fair.
[46:45] Speaker 4: We have to stop. We have to stop.
[46:48] Speaker 1: Stop what?
[46:49] Speaker 4: Because the reason why Chris Brown remains on these people's
[46:53] Speaker 4: lists is because people can never forget what Chris Brown
[46:56] Speaker 4: did because Chris Brown is always in the news for
[46:59] Speaker 4: something else violent.
[47:01] Speaker 5: So you can't forget what he did.
[47:03] Speaker 4: He just pled guilty to a charge where he would
[47:06] Speaker 4: attack somebody with a bottle in London.
[47:09] Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he didn't.
[47:11] Speaker 3: No.
[47:11] Speaker 1: About to get dismissed? No. No.
[47:14] Speaker 4: He just pled guilty to it. So that's what I'm saying.
[47:16] Speaker 4: There's always.
[47:16] Speaker 1: Pleading guilty doesn't. Especially with a cell charge doesn't always
[47:19] Speaker 1: mean that.
[47:21] Speaker 4: Are you? Did I say that he did it? No.
[47:23] Speaker 4: What I'm saying is he is always in the news
[47:26] Speaker 4: for something regarding violence. That's what I'm saying. It's never
[47:31] Speaker 4: just been a peaceful, a good 10 peaceful years for
[47:34] Speaker 4: Chris Brown. So people can't forget what he did as
[47:37] Speaker 4: far as advertisers, major news, all of this stuff. People
[47:41] Speaker 4: can't forget what he did because there's always a reminder.
[47:43] Speaker 4: Something always happens. That's like, oh, he did something else
[47:46] Speaker 4: that just goes back to him being a violent person.
[47:48] Speaker 1: So you're saying he hasn't had the time to do
[47:51] Speaker 1: the rebrand, whereas Snoop, who did Halftime, was on... Murder
[47:56] Speaker 1: was the case that they gave me. Dre has been...
[48:00] Speaker 1: All rebrands.
[48:01] Speaker 4: They have had the chance to rebrand because time heals all.
[48:05] Speaker 4: But if you're constantly in the news for something, and
[48:08] Speaker 4: this is not me saying that Chris Brown is guilty
[48:10] Speaker 4: of anything. I was not there. I do not know.
[48:12] Speaker 4: I'm just saying that there is always something coming up
[48:15] Speaker 4: when it comes to his name that has to do
[48:17] Speaker 4: with violence. So people cannot just forget what happened. Oh,
[48:20] Speaker 4: that happened all of those years ago. But when you
[48:23] Speaker 4: search his name, there's a million and 18 violent cases
[48:26] Speaker 4: or charges or something, whether he ended up being guilty
[48:28] Speaker 4: or not. That has a lot to do with it.
[48:33] Speaker 1: No, I feel you.
[48:34] Speaker 4: So it's not just, oh, he did this horrible thing
[48:36] Speaker 4: when he was a kid and he hasn't done nothing else.
[48:38] Speaker 4: His name has been attached to nothing else since then.
[48:41] Speaker 4: So people should just let it go. I'm not saying that.
[48:43] Speaker 4: It's not that.
[48:43] Speaker 2: All right, cool. And I understand what you're saying.
[48:45] Speaker 1: And I appreciate that. That makes sense.
[48:47] Speaker 2: My thing is, what does that have to do with anything?
[48:50] Speaker 1: You're going to the logical position.
[48:52] Speaker 3: We just watched this nigga sell out stadiums across the world.
[48:55] Speaker 1: We're laughing, but how Maul is saying that is really
[48:59] Speaker 1: how the NFL operates of who gives a fuck about
[49:01] Speaker 1: what anyone does as long as it's moving tickets and
[49:03] Speaker 1: it's not about the Jews. Like, that's really how all
[49:05] Speaker 1: of it... And I said it on here.
[49:06] Speaker 3: I think Chris's whole thing with these stadium tours is
[49:09] Speaker 3: basically saying, fuck that halftime show.
[49:11] Speaker 1: Like, I could do my own stadium show.
[49:13] Speaker 3: I truly believe yeah he said that to himself and
[49:15] Speaker 3: his his team around him like it's called the breezy
[49:18] Speaker 3: bowl yeah like we don't need i could do a
[49:20] Speaker 3: stadium by myself now he's out doing another run with
[49:23] Speaker 3: usher but he did one by himself where he headlined
[49:27] Speaker 3: so cool like i get it but like to keep
[49:31] Speaker 3: trying to put this thing on oh there's nobody we
[49:33] Speaker 3: don't have nobody no there's people out there Now, again,
[49:36] Speaker 3: some people may turn down the halftime show if they
[49:38] Speaker 3: was offered it. There's a select few that probably can.
[49:42] Speaker 3: But there's artists out there that they can get to
[49:45] Speaker 3: do a halftime show.
[49:48] Speaker 1: Yeah. And also, Demarius does make a good point, too, because...
[49:53] Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of all the news. If they announce
[49:55] Speaker 1: Chris Brown headlining, whenever that happens with a black artist,
[50:00] Speaker 1: it could be nothing. Common went and read a poem
[50:03] Speaker 1: at the White House for Michelle Obama, and they called
[50:06] Speaker 1: him a woman-beating cop killer. We're talking about Common. So Chris,
[50:12] Speaker 1: there's plenty more here that they can just go through.
[50:15] Speaker 1: Whereas the Snoop thing, they'd be like, well, that was
[50:18] Speaker 1: 40 years ago that he was on trial for murder.
[50:21] Speaker 1: Whereas the Chris thing, yeah, you can find something yesterday
[50:24] Speaker 1: and run with it. And it'd be, even if it's
[50:26] Speaker 1: true or untrue, Chris is an easy target for the
[50:29] Speaker 1: media to go after. Kanye? Never. Why?
[50:34] Speaker 4: If Chris is an easy target, what the fuck do
[50:36] Speaker 4: you think that Kanye is? Kanye would have pissed off
[50:39] Speaker 4: every color, race of people. Every color and race of
[50:43] Speaker 4: people possible, including his own.
[50:46] Speaker 1: He just sold out Albania.
[50:48] Speaker 4: Why do you think that the Super Bowl is about
[50:50] Speaker 4: people being able to sell tickets?
[50:52] Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with that. Well, it is
[50:54] Speaker 1: about numbers. It's about numbers. It's about people tuning in.
[50:58] Speaker 1: Let me ask you something. You think if.
[51:00] Speaker 3: Kanye was announced as the headliner for this halftime show,
[51:02] Speaker 3: that wouldn't be the most viewed halftime show ever?
[51:04] Speaker 4: It definitely would be.
[51:06] Speaker 3: What you think these advertisers care about? Without question, it
[51:10] Speaker 3: would be. We just watched him give it to Kendrick
[51:12] Speaker 3: because he had a great year. As far as numbers go.
[51:15] Speaker 1: Not that the owners care, but can you imagine, because
[51:18] Speaker 1: Robert Kraft got together with other owners of NFL stadiums
[51:22] Speaker 1: to get Macklemore out of there. It wasn't just Robert
[51:25] Speaker 1: Kraft calling Ed Sheeran. He got the coalition behind him
[51:28] Speaker 1: of NFL owners as well to say, we don't want
[51:30] Speaker 1: Macklemore here. Can you imagine, again, not that they really care.
[51:33] Speaker 4: Kanye sold out SoFi twice. Stop saying NFL owners, stadium owners.
[51:38] Speaker 4: Some of them were NFL owners. Well, some of them,
[51:40] Speaker 4: but he, that's not. But Kanye already sold out.
[51:43] Speaker 3: But I'm saying, imagine if he sold out the NFL stadium.
[51:46] Speaker 1: All Macklemore said was free Palestine. And then also said
[51:49] Speaker 1: to all of the Jewish people here, it has nothing
[51:51] Speaker 1: to do with you guys. I love you guys. He
[51:52] Speaker 1: said every right words you could say. Kanye put on
[51:56] Speaker 1: a Klansman outfit and has a song called Hi Hitler.
[52:00] Speaker 1: They would look insane if they allowed Kanye West to
[52:03] Speaker 1: be the Super Bowl halftime performer.
[52:05] Speaker 5: They're going to get money and views.
[52:08] Speaker 4: It's not like the Super Bowl halftime show is a
[52:10] Speaker 4: concept that needs to be proven. It's a proven concept.
[52:13] Speaker 4: Sometimes more people watching others, but it's always going to
[52:16] Speaker 4: be the most watched thing of the year. So it's
[52:18] Speaker 4: not necessary to be like, we got to get butts
[52:21] Speaker 4: in seats.
[52:22] Speaker 5: Like people are going to watch. Oh no, the Super
[52:24] Speaker 5: Bowl is going to sell out no matter what.
[52:25] Speaker 1: It's done already. I'm talking about like tuning in. They're fine.
[52:27] Speaker 4: So that's what I'm saying. When it comes to advertisers,
[52:29] Speaker 4: the advertisers... Whoever is whoever plays, people are going to watch.
[52:34] Speaker 4: So if now you have somebody where it's like over time,
[52:38] Speaker 4: I might lose business because my brand is attached to
[52:41] Speaker 4: something where my demographic cannot support. And now I'm going
[52:44] Speaker 4: viral because of negativity for supporting this artist. No, I'll
[52:48] Speaker 4: pull my brand out. The same thing that happened with
[52:50] Speaker 4: the festival that Kanye was supposed to headline. Yeah, they
[52:54] Speaker 4: were sold out all types of tickets or it was
[52:56] Speaker 4: actually already sold out. But the advertisers start pulling out
[52:58] Speaker 4: because it's like the eyes on this product with this
[53:01] Speaker 4: person in the background is not worth it long term
[53:05] Speaker 4: for my brand and my product.
[53:07] Speaker 5: It's not just about butts in seats or people watching,
[53:09] Speaker 5: eyes watching. It's not all about that.
[53:12] Speaker 1: And I think Kanye might turn that down.
[53:16] Speaker 2: Kanye not turning down.
[53:17] Speaker 4: The Super Bowl. I don't think Kanye would turn down
[53:18] Speaker 4: the Super Bowl.
[53:19] Speaker 1: If he is in his.
[53:20] Speaker 3: He want to put that globe in the middle of
[53:21] Speaker 3: the field, stand on top of that globe, crack a
[53:24] Speaker 3: Pepsi open. Huh?
[53:26] Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that wouldn't.
[53:28] Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that's something I was going to say
[53:30] Speaker 1: to the end between Jay-Z and Chris Brown's relationship, plus
[53:33] Speaker 1: obviously Jay-Z and Kanye's relationship. But let's say Kanye, hypothetically,
[53:38] Speaker 1: which would never happen, ends up being in February, the performer.
[53:44] Speaker 1: He gets, how long is it usually? 15 minutes, 20 minutes,
[53:46] Speaker 1: 16 minutes. How much is music? How much is ranting?
[53:53] Speaker 1: If you give, that's the only reason I think Kanye
[53:55] Speaker 1: wouldn't turn it down. I get to talk. I think
[53:59] Speaker 1: he does can't tell me nothing and rants for the
[54:00] Speaker 1: next 13 minutes.
[54:01] Speaker 5: I think they would put that in his contract that
[54:03] Speaker 5: he can't.
[54:04] Speaker 1: Oh, because Kanye loves.
[54:06] Speaker 2: He loves abiding by contracts.
[54:08] Speaker 1: That's his jam right there.
[54:09] Speaker 4: Like they would tackle that nigga off the field.
[54:11] Speaker 1: This is live? This is live? Kanye doesn't even know
[54:14] Speaker 1: what his signature looks like.
[54:16] Speaker 2: That's another one live stream that would be crazy.
[54:19] Speaker 1: Oh, Kanye? I mean, he's done it for the Thai shit.
[54:22] Speaker 1: That was insane. Yeah, man. I don't know, man.
[54:25] Speaker 2: It's super bullshit. They're going to roll somebody out there.
[54:28] Speaker 2: Y'all know who I'm going to.
[54:28] Speaker 3: Zara.
[54:29] Speaker 1: Get Zara up there. Incredible year.
[54:31] Speaker 3: Wow, Lord.
[54:32] Speaker 1: Incredible year.
[54:33] Speaker 2: Midnight Sun is killing, blazing the charts right now.
[54:35] Speaker 1: I just feel like we were already at the years
[54:37] Speaker 1: that maybe Jay was going to get some pushback with
[54:41] Speaker 1: the people that he's picked, and they were going to
[54:43] Speaker 1: go classic rock or more white. I thought this was
[54:47] Speaker 1: the white year anyways. 2027 year of the white. I
[54:51] Speaker 1: thought that was going to happen. Zara.
[54:53] Speaker 4: I actually want Doja Cat to release another album that's
[54:57] Speaker 4: like pop and like really good. Like that blows up
[55:00] Speaker 4: because I would like to see a Doja Super Bowl.
[55:02] Speaker 2: She's somebody that could do that.
[55:03] Speaker 1: If Doja put out another hit record in November, I
[55:08] Speaker 1: could see that being a thing.
[55:10] Speaker 4: Yeah, I would love to see Doja.
[55:12] Speaker 1: I think it'll be a couple. I don't think... Which
[55:17] Speaker 1: was like a big thing before Jay-Z took over. I'm
[55:20] Speaker 1: not saying it's bad or good, but it used to
[55:22] Speaker 1: be a couple performers. It wasn't... It wasn't... rare to
[55:27] Speaker 1: have that.
[55:28] Speaker 4: I can't believe one year we got Coldplay Bruno Mars
[55:30] Speaker 4: and Beyonce oh yeah that shit was insane like what
[55:33] Speaker 4: the fuck was that like what the fuck what the
[55:37] Speaker 4: fuck was 2016 bro like that shit was crazy.
[55:40] Speaker 1: No that that halftime performance was incredible yeah when Bruno
[55:44] Speaker 1: came from that side then they did their West Side
[55:46] Speaker 1: Story shit that shit was that was such a good performance.
[55:50] Speaker 4: Yeah Well, we shall see. If everybody thinks it's probably
[55:52] Speaker 4: going to be Jay-Z, I wouldn't be surprised. I feel
[55:54] Speaker 4: like if it wasn't going to be Jay-Z, whoever it
[55:56] Speaker 4: was would have been announced by now or no?
[55:59] Speaker 3: I mean, I think this is the year for him
[56:01] Speaker 3: to do it just with... They usually announce it around October. Really?
[56:04] Speaker 1: October, November, I think. Somewhere around there. That's when they
[56:07] Speaker 1: usually announce.
[56:11] Speaker 4: It.
[56:11] Speaker 1: Wait, who was it last year? Bad Bunny. Bad Bunny,
[56:14] Speaker 1: that's what it was, okay.
[56:16] Speaker 4: Bad Bunny.
[56:17] Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I couldn't I can see them
[56:21] Speaker 1: sandwiching some country in there.
[56:23] Speaker 4: We gonna watch regardless.
[56:25] Speaker 5: And let's just all be fucking for real.
[56:27] Speaker 1: No, it depends. It depends on who it is. For me.
[56:29] Speaker 4: When's the last time you didn't watch?
[56:36] Speaker 2: It was definitely an artist that I was like, cool,
[56:38] Speaker 2: but I didn't really care to see them.
[56:40] Speaker 1: This is what I... I would like to talk to
[56:43] Speaker 1: someone that truly understands data and viewers. Yeah. Because no
[56:48] Speaker 1: matter if I'm streaming on my computer or I'm watching
[56:50] Speaker 1: on my TV, I don't care if they announce someone
[56:53] Speaker 1: was just going to be taking a shit at halftime.
[56:57] Speaker 1: Even if I go into the kitchen, I'm not turning
[57:00] Speaker 1: my TV off.
[57:00] Speaker 4: The TV is still on.
[57:02] Speaker 1: That's true. So that's where I don't even understand something.
[57:04] Speaker 1: I can see viewers going higher because certain people are like,
[57:07] Speaker 1: I'm not a football fan, but I'm like, Bad Bunny,
[57:09] Speaker 1: I know people tuned in just for the halftime shit.
[57:12] Speaker 1: But it could never really drop below a certain number, right?
[57:15] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[57:15] Speaker 1: Who's turning their TV off? Who's like, let me change
[57:18] Speaker 1: the channel to watch something else for 16 minutes?
[57:22] Speaker 4: I mean, well.
[57:23] Speaker 1: Erica Kirk got it done last year.
[57:24] Speaker 4: Yeah, the Great American. Kid Rock.
[57:26] Speaker 1: Kid Rock got it done. America. I think it was
[57:31] Speaker 1: the highest used thing ever. This is a sick world
[57:36] Speaker 1: we live in. This sick is, by far. This is
[57:39] Speaker 1: a sick world we live in. Speaking of people that
[57:42] Speaker 1: turned down the Super Bowl, FOMO went up on YouTube
[57:47] Speaker 1: and on Apple, I saw. Not everything, but.
[57:52] Speaker 1: I did see yesterday that 10 songs went up outside tweaking,
[57:55] Speaker 1: true bestie, new bestie, ho phase. I'm spent white bone princess,
[57:58] Speaker 1: classic road trips and cheetah print videos are all on
[58:02] Speaker 1: Apple music now. Um, which I think is cool. I
[58:07] Speaker 1: like how Drake did it in the playlist form and
[58:10] Speaker 1: you can just click it for the video. I think
[58:11] Speaker 1: that's really cool. Um, it makes things really easy cause
[58:15] Speaker 1: that is something that yes, music videos with Apple music
[58:20] Speaker 1: are right here. but I'm still very much a YouTube
[58:23] Speaker 1: person when it comes to viewing music videos. This style
[58:29] Speaker 1: does give a cool incentive and, and our listeners can
[58:33] Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. I haven't seen it in
[58:36] Speaker 1: this form before. This is cool where the entire, yeah.
[58:41] Speaker 1: Or even if like, let's say, let's just use views
[58:44] Speaker 1: cause I'm on Drake's page right now. If I could get,
[58:50] Speaker 1: the controller video in this exact same album form right here.
[58:54] Speaker 1: Like that'd be a cool interface. Now that I see
[58:57] Speaker 1: this FOMO playlist that I think DSPs could do. Cause
[59:01] Speaker 1: this to me, this is really cool.
[59:02] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[59:03] Speaker 1: It makes it super easy. It's almost like a streaming
[59:06] Speaker 1: playlist where it can just go into the next one.
[59:09] Speaker 1: um but youtube got more right ryan i feel like
[59:11] Speaker 1: they got yeah they got quebec yeah the quebec joint
[59:16] Speaker 1: i like a lot um yeah that record's dope and
[59:19] Speaker 1: and i wish that was on here but i'm sure
[59:20] Speaker 1: that has to do with like clearances and and other
[59:23] Speaker 1: things um and then also the uh the record with
[59:27] Speaker 1: uh don and ella langley That wasn't on there as well.
[59:31] Speaker 1: But do you think that'll ever hit DSP?
[59:33] Speaker 2: The Choose in Texas cover?
[59:35] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, definitely. Definitely.
[59:38] Speaker 3: That shit is definitely hitting DSP at some point. I think, obviously,
[59:41] Speaker 3: you know, with everything that Ella is doing on her
[59:46] Speaker 3: own right now with the Choose in Texas, right?
[59:48] Speaker 2: I think it's been number one for 22 weeks.
[59:49] Speaker 1: She tied Mariah, right? I think she broke it this week.
[59:53] Speaker 3: This week she breaks it. All I want for Christmas, yeah.
[59:56] Speaker 3: Mariah coming right back for that Christmas time, don't you worry.
[1:00:01] Speaker 2: She coming right back.
[1:00:01] Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all gonna make her throw the ice out.
[1:00:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, she coming right back for that.
[1:00:06] Speaker 1: But even, I think it was someone tweeted out, I
[1:00:08] Speaker 1: don't know if it was Billboard or an account like that,
[1:00:12] Speaker 1: that there was certain Mariah streams and data they just
[1:00:16] Speaker 1: stopped counting.
[1:00:19] Speaker 2: For the All I Want for Christmas record?
[1:00:21] Speaker 1: No, not even just that.
[1:00:22] Speaker 4: Just certain records.
[1:00:23] Speaker 1: Just certain records that she has enough data where it
[1:00:25] Speaker 1: would chart top 10 every single time. They just don't
[1:00:29] Speaker 1: count it. Oh, OK. Because it's like, OK.
[1:00:33] Speaker 4: It'll be old ass songs, too.
[1:00:34] Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
[1:00:36] Speaker 4: So.
[1:00:36] Speaker 3: But when they do when they do put that on DSPs, though,
[1:00:39] Speaker 3: that Don Tolliver Drake.
[1:00:42] Speaker 2: Choosing Texas cover.
[1:00:43] Speaker 1: I like it. You know what?
[1:00:46] Speaker 2: Stop hearing that.
[1:00:46] Speaker 4: What else had my hips moving a little bit? That
[1:00:50] Speaker 4: Shabuzy and Don Tolliver clip. I saw.
[1:00:55] Speaker 2: Oh, when they did... What's her name's record over? Young Jock.
[1:00:58] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:00:59] Speaker 1: No, you're talking about Gunna and... Gunna. I'm sorry.
[1:01:01] Speaker 4: Gunna and Shaboosie.
[1:01:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, that record's hard.
[1:01:03] Speaker 2: It's Jock's record over, right?
[1:01:05] Speaker 4: Yeah. My hips was moving.
[1:01:07] Speaker 1: Child of Jock. Jock got a... He got a.
[1:01:09] Speaker 2: Nice check.
[1:01:11] Speaker 1: He got a nice check. I hope so. But if
[1:01:14] Speaker 1: you know Young Jock's history of who Young Jock was
[1:01:16] Speaker 1: signed to, I don't know. Maybe since that gentleman's been
[1:01:19] Speaker 1: in prison.
[1:01:20] Speaker 2: Hopefully Jock has a good, nice payday coming to him.
[1:01:23] Speaker 1: I mean, he deserves it. Yeah. But yeah, I like
[1:01:26] Speaker 1: that record a lot. I think that record is going
[1:01:28] Speaker 1: to be very big this fall. For sure. Right when
[1:01:32] Speaker 1: you guys were all shitting on me, when I said
[1:01:34] Speaker 1: Gunna should be higher. Look at me. Hit record. Out
[1:01:38] Speaker 1: the gate. I get it, Lil Baby could never.
[1:01:42] Speaker 4: You be hatin' on my man.
[1:01:44] Speaker 1: I like Lil Baby. I don't like the people that
[1:01:46] Speaker 1: shitted on me over saying that Gunnish can be higher.
[1:01:47] Speaker 4: It be certain people you hate on, Lil Baby.
[1:01:49] Speaker 1: I've never, wait. Lil Baby, who else? Name one time
[1:01:52] Speaker 1: outside of that list that I've ever quote unquote hated
[1:01:54] Speaker 1: on Lil Baby. One time.
[1:01:55] Speaker 4: You always say that Lil Baby is overrated and that
[1:01:58] Speaker 4: people gave him way more.
[1:01:58] Speaker 1: Find it, find it anywhere.
[1:02:00] Speaker 4: Okay.
[1:02:01] Speaker 1: I laughed at Charlamagne when he said we're entering the
[1:02:03] Speaker 1: Lil Baby era because I didn't think he had enough
[1:02:05] Speaker 1: at that time of staying power. When you say era,
[1:02:08] Speaker 1: are we going into the Kanye era? Are we going
[1:02:10] Speaker 1: into the 50 era? Are we going into the Drake era?
[1:02:12] Speaker 1: I didn't think Lil Baby had enough at that time
[1:02:14] Speaker 1: to be like, we in the Lil Baby era? That's crazy.
[1:02:17] Speaker 3: Remember when Charlamagne said the Drake era was over?
[1:02:21] Speaker 1: No, I don't remember that. I mean, a lot of people.
[1:02:25] Speaker 1: That was a consensus for a lot of people. Well,
[1:02:30] Speaker 1: he said that. That was the same sentence. He said
[1:02:32] Speaker 1: the Drake era is over. We're in the Lil Baby era.
[1:02:34] Speaker 3: Drake is the only nigga that's making relevant music right now.
[1:02:38] Speaker 3: All these niggas y'all name me. When this is ever
[1:02:40] Speaker 3: going to be over? Somebody tell me.
[1:02:43] Speaker 4: You can't say that Drake is the only person making
[1:02:44] Speaker 4: relevant music. They come in and say that Don Toliver
[1:02:47] Speaker 4: had album of the year and he's the hottest rapper.
[1:02:48] Speaker 3: I'm saying like, but Don Toliver's not really rap to
[1:02:51] Speaker 3: me though.
[1:02:51] Speaker 1: Like I get it.
[1:02:52] Speaker 3: I understand they're going to categorize it as hip hop rap,
[1:02:54] Speaker 3: but like I'm talking about rapper.
[1:02:56] Speaker 4: Rappers.
[1:02:57] Speaker 1: Okay.
[1:02:57] Speaker 2: Like, come on, man.
[1:02:59] Speaker 1: Like Lil Baby.
[1:03:02] Speaker 4: If you guys disagree with me, you're hating on Lil Baby.
[1:03:04] Speaker 4: If they let Dirk out, let me tell you something.
[1:03:06] Speaker 4: Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
[1:03:10] Speaker 2: If they let Dirk out, what?
[1:03:11] Speaker 4: If they let Dirk out, he about to go crazy.
[1:03:13] Speaker 4: I'm so excited. Go crazy with what? With music.
[1:03:18] Speaker 2: As far as what though? Like putting out hits?
[1:03:21] Speaker 3: Yes.
[1:03:22] Speaker 1: Okay. I hope so. I want to see it.
[1:03:26] Speaker 4: You don't sound like you believe it. You don't sound
[1:03:28] Speaker 4: like you believe in his ability to make hits.
[1:03:30] Speaker 2: I mean, how many hit records does Does Dirk have?
[1:03:33] Speaker 1: No, I don't know.
[1:03:35] Speaker 4: Exact hit, exact number.
[1:03:36] Speaker 1: What's your definition of a hit? Here we go. But
[1:03:38] Speaker 1: Dirk makes... Here we go.
[1:03:39] Speaker 3: Now niggas gonna.
[1:03:40] Speaker 4: Because you can have a cultural hit or you can
[1:03:42] Speaker 4: have a billboard hit.
[1:03:42] Speaker 3: Y'all putting a lot of cut on what I just
[1:03:45] Speaker 3: asked you.
[1:03:45] Speaker 1: No, it's not a cut.
[1:03:46] Speaker 2: It's a lot of baking soda y'all putting on this shit.
[1:03:47] Speaker 4: We asking you.
[1:03:48] Speaker 3: How many hit records does Dirk have?
[1:03:52] Speaker 4: He's had three top 10 hits. He's had 98 songs
[1:03:55] Speaker 4: chart and three top 10 hits. But a hit on
[1:03:58] Speaker 4: a chart and a hit culturally are two completely different things.
[1:04:02] Speaker 3: His top 10 hits, three tracks, Laugh Now, Cry Later
[1:04:05] Speaker 3: with Drake, All My Life featuring J.
[1:04:08] Speaker 1: Cole. All My Life. I'm just saying. Okay, but Dirk
[1:04:13] Speaker 1: has sold out arenas.
[1:04:15] Speaker 3: Dirk has a following.
[1:04:16] Speaker 2: I'm talking about hit records.
[1:04:20] Speaker 1: I hate to say, he does have hits in the streets.
[1:04:25] Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. We just talked about hits in
[1:04:27] Speaker 1: the street. Shout out to Al Shearer. We just talked
[1:04:30] Speaker 1: about hits in the street.
[1:04:31] Speaker 4: I miss the days when I didn't know what song
[1:04:33] Speaker 4: was number one on Billboard. I knew what the fuck
[1:04:35] Speaker 4: I heard when I went outside around the people that
[1:04:37] Speaker 4: I give a fuck about. For example, I had never
[1:04:41] Speaker 4: heard Choose in Texas, one of the longest fucking... songs
[1:04:45] Speaker 4: in billboard billboard history i had never heard it until
[1:04:48] Speaker 4: you bought it up maybe a couple weeks ago so
[1:04:50] Speaker 4: like that's.
[1:04:50] Speaker 1: Because you ain't going to bloomingdales and macy's that's.
[1:04:53] Speaker 7: What's up but i'm not gonna hear too much online
[1:04:55] Speaker 7: shopping you're doing too much online shopping you don't even
[1:04:57] Speaker 7: know the tunes no more remember used to go in
[1:04:58] Speaker 7: the stores would you consider you can hear everything i'm
[1:05:01] Speaker 7: like that's a nice song would you consider back and
[1:05:03] Speaker 7: blow with push i see a hit record hell yeah.
[1:05:06] Speaker 5: Didn't what what number did did back and blood go I.
[1:05:09] Speaker 1: Don't care about the way it turned out. I'm talking
[1:05:12] Speaker 1: about hit records.
[1:05:13] Speaker 4: And that's a hit. That was me and Rory's point.
[1:05:16] Speaker 5: So when you bring it up, oh, he's only had
[1:05:17] Speaker 5: the top three on Billboard and Drake signed.
[1:05:19] Speaker 1: Two of them.
[1:05:19] Speaker 3: I asked you how many hit records does Dirk, because
[1:05:21] Speaker 3: you said he about to go crazy.
[1:05:22] Speaker 1: And I said, as far as what? You said hit records.
[1:05:25] Speaker 2: So I said, okay, how many hit records does he have?
[1:05:28] Speaker 1: I like Dirk.
[1:05:30] Speaker 3: Personally, I listen to Dirt, but I'm just saying, I
[1:05:32] Speaker 3: don't go to Dirt when I'm like, yo, I want
[1:05:34] Speaker 3: to hear a banger. I listen to Dirt on some like,
[1:05:37] Speaker 3: it's just that energy that he brings.
[1:05:38] Speaker 2: It's just like Ace Hood. It's just like me.
[1:05:40] Speaker 3: It's like, it's energy music to me. You understand what
[1:05:43] Speaker 3: I'm saying? I'm not going to it like, yo, these
[1:05:45] Speaker 3: records are incredible. It's just the energy of the record
[1:05:48] Speaker 3: that I love. So yes, do I think Dirk's energy
[1:05:50] Speaker 3: and momentum coming home? Oh, it's going to be incredible.
[1:05:53] Speaker 3: So I agree with you that. But you said like
[1:05:55] Speaker 3: a hit record and I'm just like, how many hits.
[1:05:57] Speaker 1: Does he have?
[1:05:57] Speaker 4: Well, hits to me. Hits for the streets.
[1:06:01] Speaker 1: What number did Dreams and Nightmares go?
[1:06:03] Speaker 4: I literally was just Googling that right now. What's the
[1:06:06] Speaker 4: highest that Dreams and Nightmares went?
[1:06:08] Speaker 1: And Mo, since I admitted that I'm becoming somewhat of
[1:06:13] Speaker 1: a bad fan with how I view things, I think
[1:06:15] Speaker 1: you should take this time to humble yourself and do
[1:06:17] Speaker 1: the same and say that Number one records don't necessarily
[1:06:20] Speaker 1: mean anything. Dirk makes good music and has a huge
[1:06:25] Speaker 1: following to the point that he sold out arenas and
[1:06:27] Speaker 1: just beat a murder case. It's going to be nuts.
[1:06:29] Speaker 1: Anything he said. I said number one songs. You asked
[1:06:33] Speaker 1: what hit records he has. Yeah, just hits. I'm just
[1:06:36] Speaker 1: asking for hit records. Tell me the hits.
[1:06:38] Speaker 2: I didn't say where it plays and all that. I'm
[1:06:40] Speaker 2: just saying what hit records.
[1:06:41] Speaker 4: That's crazy. Dreams and Nightmares never hit the Hot 100.
[1:06:45] Speaker 1: Never even entered. That's a hit record.
[1:06:49] Speaker 3: It's a hit record. I just asked y'all to name
[1:06:52] Speaker 3: the hits.
[1:06:52] Speaker 1: That's all.
[1:06:53] Speaker 3: When it came to Dirk, name me the hit records.
[1:06:57] Speaker 3: I listen to Dirk. I'm on that side, so I
[1:06:59] Speaker 3: understand what y'all saying. I never said that numbers determine
[1:07:02] Speaker 3: the hit. You never heard me say that. I was
[1:07:04] Speaker 3: just asking to name the hit records.
[1:07:05] Speaker 4: Well, we misunderstood you.
[1:07:08] Speaker 1: As someone that thought Thug's return was going to be
[1:07:13] Speaker 1: a bit better because Thug makes incredible music, I was
[1:07:16] Speaker 1: a little disappointed. I have... Not going to let that
[1:07:19] Speaker 1: jade me. I have high hopes for Dirk when he
[1:07:21] Speaker 1: gets out. I do too. I think Dirk's going to
[1:07:24] Speaker 1: go more in the gunner realm than he will with
[1:07:26] Speaker 1: the young thug realm as far as music goes on
[1:07:29] Speaker 1: the return. Yeah.
[1:07:31] Speaker 3: I'm just saying. History may show that if you rat,
[1:07:39] Speaker 3: you might have a better chance of making better music
[1:07:41] Speaker 3: when you come home. I'm just saying with the history,
[1:07:45] Speaker 3: we speak to the history.
[1:07:46] Speaker 1: Are there any other rants?
[1:07:47] Speaker 3: Not what I think. Not what I think. This is
[1:07:49] Speaker 3: not this is not Maul's thoughts. I'm just saying and
[1:07:52] Speaker 3: sitting back as being a consumer and a fan of
[1:07:54] Speaker 3: the culture like everybody else. We're all consumers. The history
[1:07:57] Speaker 3: will show that if you if you flip in your
[1:08:02] Speaker 3: case and start telling it. Yo, you come home, niggas
[1:08:06] Speaker 3: embrace you. You start getting all kind of collabs, shaboosie.
[1:08:10] Speaker 3: You know, you get all them looks. You supposed to
[1:08:16] Speaker 3: be exiled from the culture, but you start getting shit
[1:08:19] Speaker 3: with all kind of collaborators.
[1:08:21] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:08:21] Speaker 1: I hope everyone that listens can give me some grace
[1:08:24] Speaker 1: with this next statement, Maul, as well. To your point
[1:08:28] Speaker 1: of maybe the rats make better music on their way out.
[1:08:33] Speaker 1: We all looked at 6ix9ine like he was like, oh,
[1:08:35] Speaker 1: fuck this guy. Those first two records, the second one
[1:08:38] Speaker 1: with Nicki Minaj, both them records was fucking fire. Both
[1:08:40] Speaker 1: of them was.
[1:08:41] Speaker 4: Tekashi made good music, man. I'm never afraid to say it.
[1:08:45] Speaker 3: I'm just speaking to the history. That first one when
[1:08:48] Speaker 3: 6ix9ine put the rat emoji on him and was like, aha,
[1:08:51] Speaker 3: that record was crazy. That's what I'm trying to tell you.
[1:08:55] Speaker 3: When you hold it down, the coach will hold you down.
[1:08:59] Speaker 1: The coach will stop.
[1:09:00] Speaker 3: You from going to the top. I'm just saying. I'm
[1:09:05] Speaker 3: just saying. I'm not saying I agree with it. I'm
[1:09:07] Speaker 3: just speaking to what we saw in the history of
[1:09:11] Speaker 3: when certain people you know, do certain things that we don't,
[1:09:15] Speaker 3: that don't align with what we were taught growing up, Rory.
[1:09:17] Speaker 3: Remember when you was a tattletale, you getting in trouble
[1:09:19] Speaker 3: with being a tattletale?
[1:09:20] Speaker 1: Nobody likes a tattletale.
[1:09:21] Speaker 3: Nobody likes a tattletale except for Shibuzi.
[1:09:26] Speaker 1: Don't do that.
[1:09:27] Speaker 4: What?
[1:09:28] Speaker 1: He's got a record with him. It's a good record.
[1:09:31] Speaker 1: I like it. I'm just saying. Shibuzi don't care about tattletales. Also,
[1:09:36] Speaker 1: and I mean, the spectrum of snitching between Gunna and
[1:09:39] Speaker 1: 6ix9ine is drastically different, but I hear what you're saying.
[1:09:41] Speaker 2: I mean, some people would say riding is riding.
[1:09:43] Speaker 1: I know. That's what I was told. A tattletale was
[1:09:46] Speaker 1: a tattletale. And while that's not my world, and I
[1:09:49] Speaker 1: disagreed vocally with things that 6ix9ine did with like the
[1:09:52] Speaker 1: Nipsey mural and stuff that had nothing to do with crime,
[1:09:54] Speaker 1: just nasty trolling shit. I would also be a liar
[1:09:57] Speaker 1: if I said those first two records he put out
[1:09:59] Speaker 1: after he ratted were not fire. They were.
[1:10:01] Speaker 4: I tell a nigga don't dick ride, don't dick ride.
[1:10:05] Speaker 3: They were.
[1:10:06] Speaker 4: That was my shit.
[1:10:06] Speaker 1: And that Nicki verse was crazy. Like... Yeah. He put
[1:10:10] Speaker 1: out two great records after he ratted.
[1:10:12] Speaker 3: I'm just speaking to what we have been given. That's
[1:10:15] Speaker 3: all I'm doing. It's my job here. Just giving y'all
[1:10:18] Speaker 3: the facts as best as I can. Sometimes I'll fall short.
[1:10:21] Speaker 1: Yeah. Sometimes I'm going to be right. We all fall
[1:10:24] Speaker 1: into the hands of the Lord sometimes. Yeah, but sometimes
[1:10:25] Speaker 1: I'm going to be right. That's all I'm saying. Amen.
[1:10:28] Speaker 4: We are not encouraging ratting.
[1:10:30] Speaker 1: No, hell no.
[1:10:32] Speaker 4: We're also not encouraging committing crime either. Never. Don't commit crime.
[1:10:36] Speaker 3: Never encouraging ratting. Never encouraging committing crime.
[1:10:39] Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
[1:10:41] Speaker 3: It looks like if you do rat, life will be okay.
[1:10:44] Speaker 3: Life will work out for you. When before it was
[1:10:47] Speaker 3: the worst thing in the world, now it might be
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[1:12:10] Speaker 1: Well, let's stay on music. I listened to the AZ
[1:12:22] Speaker 1: Shike album on Sunday, and then I listened to it
[1:12:24] Speaker 1: in the gym this morning. I really, really like that album.
[1:12:29] Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the internet was listening to, but
[1:12:31] Speaker 1: I need to stop even looking at the internet when
[1:12:32] Speaker 1: it comes to musical opinions at this point.
[1:12:34] Speaker 3: That album is really, really good. I like Shike. Shout
[1:12:38] Speaker 3: out to AZ Shike. I was looking forward to this project.
[1:12:41] Speaker 3: A little underwhelmed.
[1:12:43] Speaker 1: Really?
[1:12:43] Speaker 3: But it wasn't as bad as I saw people trying
[1:12:45] Speaker 3: to say it was. It wasn't as bad as I
[1:12:47] Speaker 3: thought people were trying to say it was.
[1:12:49] Speaker 1: So let me be candid and not use my words
[1:12:53] Speaker 1: wisely because all of the West Coast who I love
[1:12:57] Speaker 1: and respect will just take it out of context and
[1:12:59] Speaker 1: make it seem like I'm hating. I like GNX a lot.
[1:13:02] Speaker 1: I like a lot of the traditional West Coast sound,
[1:13:05] Speaker 1: but having an hour worth of that straight in a
[1:13:10] Speaker 1: row sometimes is not for me. The same way they
[1:13:12] Speaker 1: could probably say the same thing about our music. I'm
[1:13:15] Speaker 1: not around palm trees. So the one-on-one BPM stuff that
[1:13:18] Speaker 1: DJ had and everyone loves, I like it in certain settings,
[1:13:21] Speaker 1: but I still like GNX. I thought maybe Shike was
[1:13:25] Speaker 1: going to give us a GNX part two. because that
[1:13:30] Speaker 1: was so successful for them over there. As far as
[1:13:32] Speaker 1: the sound? Yes. That was not the case at all.
[1:13:35] Speaker 1: And I think that's why I really, really liked this album.
[1:13:37] Speaker 1: It has definitely has hints of that. A lot of
[1:13:40] Speaker 1: the drums are very West coast, but like beats like
[1:13:43] Speaker 1: sky rockets. I fucking love that record. Sky rockets is
[1:13:46] Speaker 1: so good. I like mercy. I love the intro. Um,
[1:13:50] Speaker 1: God's favorite is more in that GNX run, which is cool.
[1:13:54] Speaker 1: Need your love. I love with Jameson salute to Jameson.
[1:13:57] Speaker 1: We already talked about the Tyler record. Wonder, I think,
[1:14:00] Speaker 1: is fire. Packed Up, Uncounterable Conversations. I really do like
[1:14:05] Speaker 1: this project. I think it's a good balance production-wise where
[1:14:08] Speaker 1: you do obviously get the West Coast and who Shaik
[1:14:12] Speaker 1: is as an artist and how he grew up, but
[1:14:15] Speaker 1: it's not overly West Coast where somebody that didn't grow
[1:14:19] Speaker 1: up right there can still enjoy it.
[1:14:23] Speaker 3: I think that Shaik has a bright future. I think
[1:14:27] Speaker 3: that this album is, again, I'm a little underwhelmed as
[1:14:31] Speaker 3: far as what I was expecting, but sometimes my expectations
[1:14:34] Speaker 3: are really high, so some of that is me too.
[1:14:36] Speaker 3: But it's definitely not as bad as I've seen people
[1:14:39] Speaker 3: trying to make it out to be on the internet and.
[1:14:43] Speaker 1: It's nowhere near that. The music is good.
[1:14:46] Speaker 3: Raps can be a little stronger, but I think that
[1:14:47] Speaker 3: just comes with time and just getting better. But it's
[1:14:51] Speaker 3: not a bad album at all, though. But I am
[1:14:53] Speaker 3: interested to see where he goes from here. Because I
[1:14:57] Speaker 3: definitely see star quality in Chike, though.
[1:15:00] Speaker 1: Hell yeah.
[1:15:01] Speaker 2: I think he is a star.
[1:15:02] Speaker 1: I really like the raps on this, by the way.
[1:15:06] Speaker 3: I think that he's likable. I think that a lot
[1:15:09] Speaker 3: of people fuck with him. I think that a lot
[1:15:11] Speaker 3: of artists are open to collabing and making music with him.
[1:15:15] Speaker 3: So I think that he has a bright future.
[1:15:18] Speaker 1: I had him.
[1:15:18] Speaker 3: But there's some records on here that I like, though,
[1:15:20] Speaker 3: that I fuck with. Just overall, from top to bottom,
[1:15:25] Speaker 3: I just may have expected a little too much from him.
[1:15:28] Speaker 3: And again, that's probably on me, but it's not a
[1:15:30] Speaker 3: bad album at all, though. Just a little underwhelming for me.
[1:15:34] Speaker 3: But he had some moments on there that was dope.
[1:15:37] Speaker 1: Yeah, I fuck with it. I actually thought the raps
[1:15:41] Speaker 1: were a little better than I expected. On certain songs? Yeah.
[1:15:45] Speaker 1: Maybe you had higher expectations than I did, and I
[1:15:47] Speaker 1: fuck with them, but I didn't like, I wasn't going
[1:15:49] Speaker 1: in cause I, you know, I saw the split decision
[1:15:53] Speaker 1: on the internet now, which sucks of, this is about
[1:15:55] Speaker 1: to be the new West club. This is about to
[1:15:58] Speaker 1: be the new good kid, mad city, or this is
[1:16:00] Speaker 1: about to be the worst thing that's ever existed. Like
[1:16:03] Speaker 1: that's really where the internet lies. So I didn't really
[1:16:05] Speaker 1: have expectations outside of the music I've heard from him before,
[1:16:08] Speaker 1: which I liked, but I thought again, bringing sky rockets up. Um, again,
[1:16:14] Speaker 1: I thought his raps were great on the shit. I
[1:16:17] Speaker 1: fucking know who he is. The music is good though.
[1:16:20] Speaker 1: I like the music. That's always kind of like my
[1:16:23] Speaker 1: biggest critique of rappers these days. It's not like super
[1:16:27] Speaker 1: lyrical miracle or I need any of that shit. I
[1:16:29] Speaker 1: just sometimes don't even know who the fuck you are.
[1:16:31] Speaker 1: Not even rap. R & B too. I listen to
[1:16:34] Speaker 1: a whole project and have zero clue of who you
[1:16:37] Speaker 1: are or where you're at in your life. And that's fine.
[1:16:40] Speaker 1: Maybe that's a selfish fan thing, but I like that
[1:16:42] Speaker 1: in music. Yeah. I learned everything about this guy from
[1:16:45] Speaker 1: track one to 14. I thought it was great content,
[1:16:52] Speaker 1: great lyrics. Like, I really fuck with this project.
[1:16:55] Speaker 2: The production is good. Definitely got some good music on here.
[1:16:59] Speaker 1: Got Pharrell, Terrace. Of course, Terrace did Sky Rockets. Terrace. Sorry,
[1:17:05] Speaker 1: these lights, I can't. Oh, can you read that better?
[1:17:07] Speaker 1: I can't read from here.
[1:17:09] Speaker 2: Soundwave, M-Tech, Bongo, by the way.
[1:17:13] Speaker 1: Hit boy.
[1:17:14] Speaker 2: Tyler, the creator.
[1:17:16] Speaker 1: Hit boy, yeah.
[1:17:19] Speaker 2: Sean Momberger. No, he got, it's music. The music is
[1:17:23] Speaker 2: good on it. The music is strong. Music is strong.
[1:17:26] Speaker 2: Some of the hooks was hit or miss, but that's, again,
[1:17:28] Speaker 2: that comes with just getting better.
[1:17:31] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:17:31] Speaker 2: But I wasn't, I wasn't mad at it.
[1:17:33] Speaker 3: It just, I expected it to be a little stronger
[1:17:36] Speaker 3: than it is, but it's definitely not a terrible album
[1:17:38] Speaker 3: or a trash album.
[1:17:40] Speaker 1: Like I saw some people trying to make it out
[1:17:41] Speaker 1: to be.
[1:17:42] Speaker 2: What happened to the, to the Kendrick feature? What's the
[1:17:46] Speaker 2: story on that?
[1:17:48] Speaker 1: I can only go off what T-Rell said on his
[1:17:52] Speaker 1: platform that Kendrick had been, because we saw the photo
[1:17:57] Speaker 1: of him and Kendrick in there. And T-Rell had said
[1:18:02] Speaker 1: that Kendrick was on there going at everybody and that
[1:18:05] Speaker 1: it was about to get messy again. And then we
[1:18:08] Speaker 1: saw videos of Kendrick in the studio with him, kind
[1:18:11] Speaker 1: of coaching him, guiding him. And then he put the
[1:18:13] Speaker 1: track list out and there was no Kendrick.
[1:18:17] Speaker 3: So he says, I sent the album to Dot and
[1:18:19] Speaker 3: the song was called God's Favorite. He like, God's favorite
[1:18:22] Speaker 3: in the back is ratchet, like ignorant. Nah, we got
[1:18:25] Speaker 3: to change that. That nigga pushed that shit up to
[1:18:27] Speaker 3: track three, but he know what he doing. He like,
[1:18:30] Speaker 3: they're going to want this from you for sure. I
[1:18:33] Speaker 3: swear in his words, he said, nigga, you know how
[1:18:35] Speaker 3: many money trees and cartoons and series I had to
[1:18:37] Speaker 3: take off my album? And after that, he had me beat.
[1:18:40] Speaker 3: I ain't had nothing else to say. So he said,
[1:18:45] Speaker 3: he said he says that's my boy so I'm gonna
[1:18:47] Speaker 3: say that's my boy I love that dude I ain't
[1:18:49] Speaker 3: gonna lie so yeah we'll see I was really just
[1:18:52] Speaker 3: keeping my fingers crossed and they still crossed I don't
[1:18:54] Speaker 3: know what could happen them dudes are so spontaneous the
[1:18:57] Speaker 3: niggas are strict with the music rightfully so.
[1:19:01] Speaker 1: I mean all right let's go off I don't think
[1:19:03] Speaker 1: T-Roy was trolling and maybe that there is a verse
[1:19:05] Speaker 1: that does exist that was on this album that had
[1:19:08] Speaker 1: Kendrick dissing everyone I kind of know your answer, Maul,
[1:19:12] Speaker 1: but thinking in longevity, is that the Kendrick verse you
[1:19:18] Speaker 1: want on your album?
[1:19:19] Speaker 3: No.
[1:19:20] Speaker 1: Because I don't think I want that on. I know
[1:19:22] Speaker 1: it's crazy to say not wanting a Kendrick Lamar verse
[1:19:25] Speaker 1: on your album, but do I want another control, another
[1:19:28] Speaker 1: like that? That's going to be the moment. No one's
[1:19:32] Speaker 1: going to talk about my album.
[1:19:34] Speaker 3: So are you implying that Maybe the verse was that
[1:19:37] Speaker 3: and Chike took it off the album? Because I can
[1:19:39] Speaker 3: guarantee you, AZ Chike did not take a Kendrick Lamar
[1:19:42] Speaker 3: verse out.
[1:19:43] Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Okay. I can see Kendrick. And again, we're
[1:19:46] Speaker 1: going off what T-Rail said. Friend of the show. I
[1:19:49] Speaker 1: could see Kendrick going, I don't want to do this
[1:19:51] Speaker 1: to him. This could fuck up his first real moment
[1:19:56] Speaker 1: as far as albums go. I know he's put out
[1:19:58] Speaker 1: projects before, but coming off GNX, this is his first
[1:20:02] Speaker 1: real proper, proper album for the masses.
[1:20:04] Speaker 3: So there's a world where a Kendrick verse may not
[1:20:07] Speaker 3: have even been real, may not have even been on
[1:20:09] Speaker 3: this album.
[1:20:10] Speaker 5: That also exists too. We really don't know.
[1:20:12] Speaker 1: Of course we don't know. Yeah. Okay. And very spontaneous album.
[1:20:17] Speaker 1: was video clearly he was in the studio with him
[1:20:19] Speaker 1: multiple times working on this project with him guiding him
[1:20:22] Speaker 1: on some eps whatever you want to call it i
[1:20:26] Speaker 1: can see kendrick being like oh i hear something here
[1:20:29] Speaker 1: and that would inspire him to rap and not hearing
[1:20:31] Speaker 1: that like i'll see if i want to end up
[1:20:33] Speaker 1: on it if i'm inspired yeah there could be nothing
[1:20:36] Speaker 1: or there could be him dissing everyone and then him
[1:20:38] Speaker 1: going bro i don't want to give you this verse
[1:20:40] Speaker 1: this is going to up like the moment should.
[1:20:43] Speaker 4: Be your album Or also, he could record a verse
[1:20:48] Speaker 4: and then by the time the album's ready to come out,
[1:20:50] Speaker 4: he in a completely different space, he don't want that
[1:20:52] Speaker 4: verse to ever be heard, which happens a lot.
[1:20:54] Speaker 1: Which is where Rick Ross made up that bullshit about
[1:20:56] Speaker 1: French Montana.
[1:20:58] Speaker 4: I mean, I hear you.
[1:21:00] Speaker 1: My shit come out at midnight. Where you at now?
[1:21:02] Speaker 3: Send another one. I know you got something in the chamber.
[1:21:05] Speaker 3: I feel like.
[1:21:08] Speaker 4: There's so much value in having Kendrick Lamar in the studio,
[1:21:12] Speaker 4: which you vibing talking and giving you advice there's so
[1:21:16] Speaker 4: much there's so much long-term value in that that pushing
[1:21:21] Speaker 4: pushing for wanting a feature i would just be like
[1:21:23] Speaker 4: man kendrick in here chilling vibing he giving his opinion
[1:21:25] Speaker 4: on this give this is a top tier rapper top
[1:21:28] Speaker 4: tier artistry like i'm taking it running.
[1:21:32] Speaker 3: I could sit in the studio and vibe with jay-z
[1:21:34] Speaker 3: all night But if that nigga go in that booth
[1:21:37] Speaker 3: and lay something down, that's what changed my fucking life.
[1:21:40] Speaker 1: This conversation, that's cool.
[1:21:42] Speaker 3: Giving me the jewels and the gems and all of
[1:21:43] Speaker 3: that and I watch his latest and say that, that's fire.
[1:21:47] Speaker 3: If you go in that booth and lay down a
[1:21:50] Speaker 3: verse for my album, That changes my life.
[1:21:54] Speaker 2: That's life-changing shit.
[1:21:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, but also having someone that's put together in the
[1:21:58] Speaker 1: modern era, some of the best bodies of work album-wise
[1:22:01] Speaker 1: that we have seen, having that person in your corner
[1:22:04] Speaker 1: guiding you, you can't put a price tag on that. No.
[1:22:08] Speaker 1: That's above even a verse. You know how hard it
[1:22:09] Speaker 1: is to put an album together in 2026? I can't
[1:22:11] Speaker 1: put a price tag on a verse either.
[1:22:13] Speaker 3: Some more, while we talking priceless shit, let's talk about
[1:22:16] Speaker 3: how priceless a Jay-Z verse is right now for artists.
[1:22:18] Speaker 3: All right, what do you think, obviously- Let's talk about
[1:22:20] Speaker 3: how priceless a Drake verse is for artists, how priceless
[1:22:22] Speaker 3: a Kendrick verse is for artists.
[1:22:23] Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. No, no, I hear you, but
[1:22:25] Speaker 1: all right, that makes sense. I'm really not disagreeing with you,
[1:22:28] Speaker 1: but like, all right, let's look at Keem's project. Obviously,
[1:22:32] Speaker 1: Keem's family connection to Kendrick has been amazing for him,
[1:22:36] Speaker 1: and we know Keem because of Kendrick, of course. Priceless.
[1:22:39] Speaker 1: But I think Keem's last project- I'm sure he would
[1:22:43] Speaker 1: say the verse that Kendrick put on that song is
[1:22:46] Speaker 1: minuscule to Kendrick being in the studio and helping him
[1:22:50] Speaker 1: and working with him to put that body of work together.
[1:22:53] Speaker 1: I'm sure he would choose that over the verse that
[1:22:57] Speaker 1: Kendrick has on Keem's album. Now, apples and oranges because
[1:23:02] Speaker 1: Keem is an artist of Kendrick's and he could probably
[1:23:04] Speaker 1: get a Kendrick verse when he wants. different with that
[1:23:08] Speaker 1: but to have that guy in the studio with you
[1:23:11] Speaker 1: to put your project together i'm not gonna be begging
[1:23:13] Speaker 1: for a verse i'm happy that you're here helping me
[1:23:15] Speaker 1: put this together yeah if you don't hear nothing i
[1:23:19] Speaker 1: don't want to force it because then you end up
[1:23:21] Speaker 1: dissing somebody and now this is about something.
[1:23:22] Speaker 4: Else or the verse is not going to be great
[1:23:25] Speaker 4: and it's just going to be thrown together and now
[1:23:27] Speaker 4: you got a kindred verse that nobody gives.
[1:23:28] Speaker 1: A fuck about.
[1:23:31] Speaker 4: We talking about his album, talking about it. We just
[1:23:34] Speaker 4: been talking about it for, what, the past five, seven minutes,
[1:23:36] Speaker 4: and there's no Kendrick verse. He did what he needed
[1:23:38] Speaker 4: to do, and we're talking about him.
[1:23:39] Speaker 1: I like Shike, though.
[1:23:40] Speaker 2: I was looking forward to his album. I think he's dope.
[1:23:43] Speaker 1: Demar, the only reason I even wanted to talk about
[1:23:45] Speaker 1: Kendrick on this was not even what T-Rell said. I
[1:23:47] Speaker 1: like the song Peek-A-Boo. We told Shike at the BET Awards,
[1:23:51] Speaker 1: he was my favorite verse or feature on GNX.
[1:23:55] Speaker 4: I remember you saying that.
[1:23:57] Speaker 1: I wanted to hear them again because I think they
[1:23:58] Speaker 1: have good song chemistry. Like they sound good. Their tones
[1:24:01] Speaker 1: sound really good together. That's why I wanted them. I
[1:24:04] Speaker 1: didn't want a Kendrick verse of him dissing everybody that
[1:24:07] Speaker 1: talked about him. I wanted them to make a record.
[1:24:09] Speaker 1: Like Peekaboo was fire to me. And I'm sure a
[1:24:11] Speaker 1: record will come. Yeah, hell yeah.
[1:24:15] Speaker 3: We sitting here talking about it now. I'm just going
[1:24:18] Speaker 3: to say it's going to be interesting to see what
[1:24:20] Speaker 3: the tone is, what the conversation is a year from now.
[1:24:25] Speaker 1: That's all.
[1:24:27] Speaker 3: So I love what Chike is, how he's saying it.
[1:24:29] Speaker 3: That man sits me in the studio, gives me tools,
[1:24:32] Speaker 3: boosts my music IQ. This dude is bigger than life.
[1:24:34] Speaker 3: How the fuck he even make time for me?
[1:24:35] Speaker 1: He's my friend.
[1:24:36] Speaker 3: It shows me you can always have a big heart
[1:24:38] Speaker 3: no matter how big you are. That dude is grounded.
[1:24:39] Speaker 3: It's phenomenal. Beautiful.
[1:24:41] Speaker 1: I get that. I understand that. I respect that.
[1:24:44] Speaker 3: I'm just saying, a year from today, I would just
[1:24:48] Speaker 3: like to know what the conversation is when you ask Chike, yo,
[1:24:50] Speaker 3: so what's up with Kendrick?
[1:24:52] Speaker 1: How's y'all's relationship?
[1:24:53] Speaker 4: But even still, and that's another thing, even if they
[1:24:56] Speaker 4: end up not having a relationship, it is not on
[1:24:58] Speaker 4: Kendrick Lamar to have a relationship or have a feature
[1:25:03] Speaker 4: on every single West Coast album.
[1:25:05] Speaker 3: No, I'm not saying that. You're never going to hear
[1:25:08] Speaker 3: me say that.
[1:25:08] Speaker 1: I hate that internet narrative.
[1:25:11] Speaker 3: I don't feel like Kendrick got to do a motherfucking thing.
[1:25:14] Speaker 3: I'm just saying I hear what Chyka's saying now. a
[1:25:18] Speaker 3: year from now.
[1:25:18] Speaker 5: It might change and if it does then what does
[1:25:21] Speaker 5: that mean.
[1:25:21] Speaker 4: I want to hear what he got to say that's
[1:25:22] Speaker 4: all i don't give a fuck what he got to
[1:25:24] Speaker 4: say about his relationship with kendrick a year from now
[1:25:26] Speaker 4: like if he continues on with his career he makes
[1:25:30] Speaker 4: good music then that's on him if kendrick helps him
[1:25:32] Speaker 4: doesn't help him if they never speak again that's what
[1:25:34] Speaker 4: happens with human beings nah.
[1:25:36] Speaker 2: That's but that's then we have another conversation We're going
[1:25:40] Speaker 2: to have another conversation.
[1:25:41] Speaker 4: I feel like you're putting something under a microscope that
[1:25:44] Speaker 4: doesn't need to be under a microscope.
[1:25:46] Speaker 2: I'm talking about what we've been given.
[1:25:49] Speaker 3: If that's the case, if they not cool a year
[1:25:50] Speaker 3: from now, we're going to have another conversation.
[1:25:52] Speaker 4: What would the conversation be?
[1:25:53] Speaker 1: Let it be a year from now.
[1:25:54] Speaker 4: Okay.
[1:25:56] Speaker 3: But we're going to have another conversation. If Chike sit
[1:25:58] Speaker 3: anywhere and be like, yo, I ain't really, I ain't
[1:25:59] Speaker 3: supposed to die in a year. I don't know. I
[1:26:01] Speaker 3: don't know what's up with dude. If that's the temperament
[1:26:03] Speaker 3: a year from now, we're going to have another conversation.
[1:26:05] Speaker 1: But I don't think it would, if that were to happen,
[1:26:07] Speaker 1: I don't think it would because he didn't put a verse.
[1:26:10] Speaker 3: I don't, I'm not saying, I don't know what it
[1:26:12] Speaker 3: would be, but I'm just saying we would have to
[1:26:13] Speaker 3: have a conversation about it.
[1:26:15] Speaker 1: Now, for the sake of the sake of conversation, while
[1:26:17] Speaker 1: I completely disagree with you for the sake of conversation,
[1:26:22] Speaker 1: there is an unwritten verse swap rule. in the world,
[1:26:27] Speaker 1: amongst especially rappers, even R & B artists, verse swaps
[1:26:31] Speaker 1: is a thing. It's a thing. I'm disagreeing with Mo,
[1:26:36] Speaker 1: I'm just saying.
[1:26:36] Speaker 4: If we're going to do the unwritten rule verse swap thing,
[1:26:40] Speaker 4: it needs to be an equal exchange when it comes
[1:26:42] Speaker 4: to a verse swap. Kendrick, even not even unwritten written
[1:26:47] Speaker 4: on emails.
[1:26:48] Speaker 5: This is a swap. That's a real term in the music.
[1:26:51] Speaker 5: I understand that.
[1:26:52] Speaker 4: But it also needs to be an equal energy exchange.
[1:26:55] Speaker 4: It needs to both both hands need to be watching
[1:26:57] Speaker 4: each other. Whether Kendrick is on AZ shit or AZ
[1:27:01] Speaker 4: is on Kendrick shit. Either way, it is helping AZ
[1:27:04] Speaker 4: more than it is helping Kendrick. So that's not an
[1:27:06] Speaker 4: even exchange.
[1:27:07] Speaker 1: Well, verse swaps are not always.
[1:27:09] Speaker 4: They're not exactly. But it's not me reaching all the
[1:27:12] Speaker 4: way from the top. all the way down to pull
[1:27:15] Speaker 4: somebody out.
[1:27:15] Speaker 1: How I view verse swaps, beat swaps, any of that
[1:27:18] Speaker 1: shit is I don't want you to do it unless
[1:27:19] Speaker 1: you hear something and you're inspired by it and it's
[1:27:22] Speaker 1: something you feel like you can deliver. Don't do it
[1:27:23] Speaker 1: just to do it. I'll wait. We do a verse
[1:27:26] Speaker 1: swap on my fifth album if you want. But that
[1:27:29] Speaker 1: is a thing.
[1:27:30] Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
[1:27:30] Speaker 1: That does exist. And I saw a bunch of lies
[1:27:34] Speaker 1: on the internet that everyone thought was law that the
[1:27:36] Speaker 1: GNX paperwork was either take $ 5, 000 or a verse swap.
[1:27:40] Speaker 1: Like a bunch of bullshit. but verse swaps are a
[1:27:44] Speaker 1: very real thing in the world.
[1:27:47] Speaker 4: For sure.
[1:27:49] Speaker 1: But if there was nothing there... Shout out Chike, man. Honestly,
[1:27:53] Speaker 1: I like the song God's Favorite that he's talking about
[1:27:56] Speaker 1: on the record. I like where it's placed. I don't
[1:27:58] Speaker 1: know where it was placed before, but it makes sense
[1:27:59] Speaker 1: at number four. I've heard Kendrick on something like that before.
[1:28:05] Speaker 1: I'm kind of happy that wasn't the one that was picked.
[1:28:09] Speaker 1: I would have rather heard Kendrick on... Shit, Uncomfortable Conversations.
[1:28:15] Speaker 1: Maybe even the other Tyler record. Ah, shit, I keep
[1:28:20] Speaker 1: going back to Skyrock. Lambo Truck. Keys, I would even
[1:28:23] Speaker 1: like him on. God's Favorite, I've heard him on that
[1:28:26] Speaker 1: beat a thousand times. I'm glad Kendrick was not on
[1:28:30] Speaker 1: that one. Don't waste the Kendrick verse on something I've
[1:28:33] Speaker 1: heard him on.
[1:28:34] Speaker 2: This is all just talk. I mean, we don't know
[1:28:36] Speaker 2: if there ever was really a verse, if it wasn't.
[1:28:38] Speaker 4: This is just rap fan conversations.
[1:28:42] Speaker 1: Yeah. I know we're not allowed to have those anymore,
[1:28:45] Speaker 1: but this is just people that are fans of music
[1:28:48] Speaker 1: talking about an album. I don't know.
[1:28:51] Speaker 2: Maybe I'm going to listen to the album some more
[1:28:52] Speaker 2: though this week.
[1:28:54] Speaker 1: Listen to it in the gym.
[1:28:56] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[1:28:56] Speaker 1: I like Chike, man. I'm looking forward to him. he
[1:28:59] Speaker 1: maneuvers after this after this release yeah just a.
[1:29:04] Speaker 4: Musicy ass episode hey go music go music go hip-hop.
[1:29:09] Speaker 1: Go hip-hop is great all right staying on music um
[1:29:14] Speaker 1: an alleged pusha t snippet came out um obviously push
[1:29:18] Speaker 1: has been i wouldn't say a press run but it's
[1:29:20] Speaker 1: been talking um to a few people he said he
[1:29:23] Speaker 1: has a solo album produced by pharrell this appears Like
[1:29:27] Speaker 1: this may be a snippet from that project where he's
[1:29:31] Speaker 1: dissing Drake. Of course, that's the one that they'll pick
[1:29:33] Speaker 1: because the internet is messy. We call you Susie Sue
[1:29:37] Speaker 1: in the group and dogs and this and that.
[1:29:39] Speaker 4: Read it.
[1:29:40] Speaker 1: Pharrell goes, uh. Now, this album did, if you were
[1:29:46] Speaker 1: paying attention on Twitter, leak two weeks ago. The full album.
[1:29:51] Speaker 1: So the snippet coming out, yeah, they picked the Drake
[1:29:53] Speaker 1: one because they knew that would be the one that
[1:29:54] Speaker 1: would get the most traction.
[1:29:55] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:29:55] Speaker 1: And this is not a Pusha T Drake thing. That's
[1:29:57] Speaker 1: just an internet thing when it comes to disc records.
[1:30:01] Speaker 1: But if you saw a lot of comments under it,
[1:30:02] Speaker 1: it was like, yo, we all heard this album two
[1:30:04] Speaker 1: weeks ago. It did leak on the internet. Now, if
[1:30:09] Speaker 1: you're pushed, do you go back and rerecord stuff? Do
[1:30:14] Speaker 1: you start a new album? Or do you think, hey,
[1:30:16] Speaker 1: it was just one side of the internet? Because we've
[1:30:19] Speaker 1: watched more. You'd know even better than me. Mobb Deep
[1:30:23] Speaker 1: Murder Music was... They redid like half that album. Lost
[1:30:30] Speaker 1: Tapes is one of my favorite projects because half of
[1:30:33] Speaker 1: I Am, it was I Am, right?
[1:30:34] Speaker 4: Or Nostradamus.
[1:30:36] Speaker 1: Nostradamus, maybe. I think Nostradamus. Shit, we sort of know
[1:30:42] Speaker 1: the story between Un and Jay when it comes to
[1:30:45] Speaker 1: Volume 3. Before Napster, leaks were a thing and they're
[1:30:51] Speaker 1: still a thing. We've seen people re-record full albums. Is
[1:30:54] Speaker 1: that something Push does? Or do you say, fuck it?
[1:30:58] Speaker 1: I don't really care too much about the Suzy suing.
[1:31:00] Speaker 1: This is just for clicks. I care about full albums.
[1:31:05] Speaker 3: Well, it says the clip has since been struck and
[1:31:07] Speaker 3: taken down while some fans are questioning whether the song
[1:31:09] Speaker 3: is authentic or AI generated.
[1:31:11] Speaker 4: If it was AI generated, it would not be taken down.
[1:31:17] Speaker 4: You can't take down something that's not real. You have
[1:31:20] Speaker 4: no copyright claim over it because you didn't create it.
[1:31:22] Speaker 1: She makes a good point. Yeah, but even some of
[1:31:26] Speaker 1: the AI shit that was in the Drake and Kendrick battle,
[1:31:29] Speaker 1: I feel like I'd take it down. I don't know.
[1:31:32] Speaker 1: Ignore me.
[1:31:32] Speaker 2: No, Kendrick just had those songs taken down.
[1:31:33] Speaker 1: It was a real Drake song. I set that up
[1:31:36] Speaker 1: for you. My bad. They said it was Kendrick AI shit,
[1:31:39] Speaker 1: but they thought it was Tupac. No, remember there was
[1:31:44] Speaker 1: real Kendrick AI records, Drake AI records. Not the ones that...
[1:31:49] Speaker 1: officially were part of the battle oh yeah those got
[1:31:51] Speaker 1: taken down though.
[1:31:52] Speaker 3: No i'm not sure i haven't searched for those songs i.
[1:31:55] Speaker 1: Think some people would joke and be like oh they
[1:31:57] Speaker 1: were the kendrick ones were real that's why they were.
[1:32:00] Speaker 3: Taken down um yeah to this uh pushy t pharrell
[1:32:05] Speaker 3: record now just being honest i've i was sent an
[1:32:09] Speaker 3: album almost a year ago i don't know how long
[1:32:11] Speaker 3: ago that was i was i was sent an album
[1:32:13] Speaker 3: almost a year ago And was told that this is
[1:32:15] Speaker 3: the Pusha T Pharrell album. Now.
[1:32:17] Speaker 1: Okay. Played the album for you, Rory. Uh-huh.
[1:32:20] Speaker 2: And we spoke about it. I had the same sentiments.
[1:32:22] Speaker 2: I'm like, this is AI. Or this better be AI.
[1:32:26] Speaker 3: Why? Because that is some of the worst music and
[1:32:29] Speaker 3: worst rapping I've ever heard in my life. Now, when
[1:32:32] Speaker 3: this song came out. That was one of the songs
[1:32:35] Speaker 3: that was on now.
[1:32:36] Speaker 1: It was.
[1:32:38] Speaker 3: Now, listen, at the end, Damaris makes a good point,
[1:32:41] Speaker 3: but it's saying the clip has since been struck and
[1:32:42] Speaker 3: taken down while some fans are questioning whether the song
[1:32:45] Speaker 3: is authentic or AI generated.
[1:32:48] Speaker 1: I asked you a year ago, every time a song
[1:32:50] Speaker 1: came on, I said, this is AI. I was praying
[1:32:53] Speaker 1: it was AI.
[1:32:54] Speaker 3: It was some of the worst music, but now the
[1:32:57] Speaker 3: song is real because Pharrell and Pusha T just put
[1:33:01] Speaker 3: out Coffee, Grinding Coffee. That song was in the promotional video.
[1:33:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, with Pharrell ending it going, uh.
[1:33:10] Speaker 3: So is that to say the other 10 songs I
[1:33:12] Speaker 3: have is real?
[1:33:14] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[1:33:14] Speaker 3: If it is, I'm going to be real. I know
[1:33:16] Speaker 3: people feel like I don't like Push. I don't know
[1:33:17] Speaker 3: Push personally. I don't have an issue with them. Love Pharrell.
[1:33:21] Speaker 1: Love Push.
[1:33:21] Speaker 3: Love what the clips did to the culture. I'm going
[1:33:23] Speaker 3: to just be honest with y'all. Y'all better not put
[1:33:25] Speaker 3: that album out. That is some of the worst music
[1:33:29] Speaker 3: that y'all could ever have in y'all catalog.
[1:33:31] Speaker 1: I like Pusha T a lot. I mean, I wouldn't
[1:33:34] Speaker 1: say we're personally like we've been around each other, but
[1:33:38] Speaker 1: I would say we personally, I think he's a really
[1:33:41] Speaker 1: nice guy and I love Pusha T music. I love
[1:33:43] Speaker 1: Clip's music. For sure. Absolutely. I did think that that
[1:33:46] Speaker 1: album was AI until the Coffee Grinder shit did.
[1:33:49] Speaker 2: You thought it was AI because the music is bad.
[1:33:51] Speaker 1: It just didn't feel like this was something Pharrell and
[1:33:55] Speaker 1: Pusha put together. Again, that could be an early version.
[1:33:59] Speaker 1: Who knows, just because we heard the snippet in the
[1:34:02] Speaker 1: coffee grinder shit and this. That's the version. Where that could,
[1:34:05] Speaker 1: there was, Maul, you played that like a year, maybe
[1:34:07] Speaker 1: more than a year ago.
[1:34:08] Speaker 2: It's like a year, yeah.
[1:34:09] Speaker 1: Maybe a year ago. Yeah, it felt like an AI album.
[1:34:15] Speaker 1: Some of the features felt like they were AI too.
[1:34:19] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:34:19] Speaker 1: So that's why I wasn't particularly sure where that was.
[1:34:25] Speaker 3: That was so bad, I think I deleted it out
[1:34:27] Speaker 3: of my phone. Because I was like, this is fake.
[1:34:30] Speaker 3: I really feel like it's not. I feel like it's
[1:34:33] Speaker 3: not real. But then when I hear this song on
[1:34:37] Speaker 3: the grinding promotion on the commercial, I'm like, oh, shit.
[1:34:42] Speaker 1: The new venture.
[1:34:42] Speaker 2: This is a real song.
[1:34:45] Speaker 1: Yeah. That album is not good. I listen. Because that
[1:34:49] Speaker 1: part of the commercial was definitely on that album. um
[1:34:53] Speaker 1: listen could be an early version though it could be
[1:34:55] Speaker 1: it could be.
[1:34:56] Speaker 3: Things changing things taking off whatever they're saying i didn't
[1:34:59] Speaker 3: i didn't i didn't listen to whatever album they're saying
[1:35:01] Speaker 3: leaked two weeks ago i didn't listen.
[1:35:03] Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to either but uh even
[1:35:06] Speaker 1: people i know in group chats were like yeah no
[1:35:07] Speaker 1: we heard it but it disappeared the link but yeah
[1:35:10] Speaker 1: it leaked but let's just talk about probably the music
[1:35:12] Speaker 1: we heard let's just talk.
[1:35:13] Speaker 3: About this record that that that was out and since
[1:35:15] Speaker 3: take it down okay that song was bad Like that
[1:35:20] Speaker 3: is just not it's just I don't care who he's dissing.
[1:35:22] Speaker 1: I don't care.
[1:35:23] Speaker 3: I didn't even get to any of that. I didn't
[1:35:24] Speaker 3: start breaking down bars. You know, I'm just listening to
[1:35:27] Speaker 3: the music and I'm just like, bro, this is not
[1:35:30] Speaker 3: this doesn't even sound good.
[1:35:31] Speaker 1: OK, I can I can only say this because this
[1:35:33] Speaker 1: is on Twitter. It's out there. It's not like we're
[1:35:34] Speaker 1: breaking the news here. The AI artist I was talking about,
[1:35:39] Speaker 1: there's a weekend feature on that leak and I thought
[1:35:41] Speaker 1: it was an AI weekend thing. But clearly the people
[1:35:44] Speaker 1: that heard this leak as well on Twitter, this is
[1:35:46] Speaker 1: on September 19, 2026, features likely AI in parentheses, the
[1:35:50] Speaker 1: weekend vocals. I thought it was an AI weekend too
[1:35:53] Speaker 1: when you played it for me a year ago. It
[1:35:55] Speaker 1: didn't sound like, I was like, this is AI weekend.
[1:35:58] Speaker 1: It's terrible.
[1:35:59] Speaker 3: That shit sounds terrible. And that's why I'm like, this
[1:36:02] Speaker 3: can't be real because we don't know Pusha... and Pharrell
[1:36:07] Speaker 3: to collab and make bad music. So that's why I'm like,
[1:36:11] Speaker 3: this can't be- They're batting a thousand.
[1:36:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, that can't be.
[1:36:15] Speaker 3: I'm on the side of that can't be real, but
[1:36:17] Speaker 3: they used it in the fucking grinding coffee.
[1:36:20] Speaker 1: A part, but it was a part of it. We
[1:36:22] Speaker 1: don't know what we heard or what leaked last week
[1:36:28] Speaker 1: is what the final one is. Even if they used
[1:36:29] Speaker 1: a small snippet on that grinding commercial or even this leak,
[1:36:35] Speaker 1: But I'm fine talking about it now because everyone seemed
[1:36:37] Speaker 1: to have the same response that I did a year
[1:36:39] Speaker 1: ago of going, this is AI.
[1:36:41] Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that doesn't sound good at all. And I'm
[1:36:44] Speaker 3: on the side of it is AI. When I first heard,
[1:36:46] Speaker 3: listened to it, I said, this is not a real album.
[1:36:48] Speaker 1: This is AI. And to anyone thinking we're fucking with
[1:36:53] Speaker 1: people's livelihoods or anything, this leaked. Maul played us this
[1:36:58] Speaker 1: a year ago, as he said, we never spoke about it, period.
[1:37:02] Speaker 4: Ever.
[1:37:02] Speaker 3: We never spoke about it. We knew it existed. Never
[1:37:05] Speaker 3: sent it to nobody. I feel like we're okay to
[1:37:07] Speaker 3: speak about that. I still never sent it to Rory.
[1:37:09] Speaker 3: I never sent it to nobody.
[1:37:11] Speaker 4: Well, okay.
[1:37:11] Speaker 1: Respectfully, I didn't want it.
[1:37:13] Speaker 2: You didn't want it.
[1:37:13] Speaker 6: Yeah.
[1:37:13] Speaker 1: I mean, fair. But it's like, I never sent it out.
[1:37:16] Speaker 1: I never spoke.
[1:37:17] Speaker 3: About it publicly because I just listened to it and
[1:37:19] Speaker 3: was like, this is not a real, this is not
[1:37:21] Speaker 3: a real album.
[1:37:22] Speaker 1: Because again, I thought it was, it was an AI
[1:37:24] Speaker 1: joint or something that was like maybe a trick because
[1:37:29] Speaker 1: Pharrell was yelling all over it. I just assumed maybe,
[1:37:34] Speaker 1: remember when people used to throw like, this is for
[1:37:36] Speaker 1: promotional use only over shit. I thought Pharrell was like,
[1:37:41] Speaker 1: sometimes artists do this, especially with Dropbox. Drake, for a
[1:37:45] Speaker 1: long time, there was Dropboxes where he would upload and
[1:37:48] Speaker 1: everyone would have it. He didn't even know. They'll throw
[1:37:51] Speaker 1: out feelers to see who's leaking shit. All right, I'll
[1:37:54] Speaker 1: put together six AI records and let me send it
[1:37:57] Speaker 1: out to the group chat and Let's see where this goes.
[1:38:00] Speaker 1: This ain't real. Let's put out bad dope just to
[1:38:02] Speaker 1: see who's the one leaking it. I thought maybe that's
[1:38:05] Speaker 1: what it was. But then we get the grinded commercial.
[1:38:11] Speaker 1: Then once we get that, it's like, oh, this is real.
[1:38:15] Speaker 1: This is a real thing. So, again, that's just one song,
[1:38:19] Speaker 1: to Rory's point. That's just a snippet in a video.
[1:38:22] Speaker 1: We don't know if the song changed, if whatever. But
[1:38:26] Speaker 1: obviously the album leaked. The song with The Weeknd allegedly
[1:38:30] Speaker 1: is there. But people feel like it's A.I. It feels A.I.
[1:38:35] Speaker 1: It sounds A.I. It just doesn't sound like the Pusha
[1:38:39] Speaker 1: T and Pharrell energy and combo that we are used to.
[1:38:43] Speaker 1: It just doesn't feel or sound like any of that.
[1:38:45] Speaker 1: So if that is it, though, again, much respect to Pusha.
[1:38:50] Speaker 1: Much respect to Pharrell. If that is, in fact, real,
[1:38:55] Speaker 1: y'all got.
[1:38:55] Speaker 3: To get back in there and rework that because that's
[1:38:58] Speaker 3: the people are not going to clearly they're not going
[1:39:00] Speaker 3: to like that.
[1:39:01] Speaker 1: And I know they won't clip this part of the
[1:39:03] Speaker 1: entire thing, but I do think there's a world where
[1:39:06] Speaker 1: maybe somebody got a hold of a Dropbox of them
[1:39:10] Speaker 1: starting a project with ideas and. added the ai shit
[1:39:14] Speaker 1: to it yeah and this is not this was just
[1:39:17] Speaker 1: start yeah there may be similar lyrics to what we
[1:39:19] Speaker 1: heard i.e the grinding commercial but that ain't the album
[1:39:23] Speaker 1: like they would they were starting on some shit plenty
[1:39:26] Speaker 1: of time plenty of times plenty of times i'm sure
[1:39:28] Speaker 1: pharrell would do a little four count put something and
[1:39:31] Speaker 1: push would wrap his ass off and pharrell would change
[1:39:33] Speaker 1: the beat completely yeah he rapped on just the drums
[1:39:36] Speaker 1: and then it's a whole different beat like I do
[1:39:39] Speaker 1: think there's a world, because again, this was a year ago.
[1:39:41] Speaker 3: I forgot I even had that until that grinding thing
[1:39:44] Speaker 3: came out and you sent it to my phone. He
[1:39:47] Speaker 3: was like, no, that shit is real.
[1:39:49] Speaker 1: I was like, nah.
[1:39:51] Speaker 3: I had completely deleted that from my data, from my
[1:39:55] Speaker 3: data history. I was like, I'm never listening to that.
[1:39:58] Speaker 3: I'm never pressing play on that again. That is a
[1:40:00] Speaker 3: fake album that's not real. But then again, we get
[1:40:04] Speaker 3: the grinding thing. commercial and it's like nah man.
[1:40:07] Speaker 1: Yeah and this is no push hate this is no
[1:40:09] Speaker 1: pharrell hate i have high hopes i don't think that
[1:40:12] Speaker 1: that's the final project especially a year old that what
[1:40:16] Speaker 1: clip is that i don't know about this this the
[1:40:18] Speaker 1: whole time huh.
[1:40:19] Speaker 6: You're like oh that oh okay well we'll break the
[1:40:25] Speaker 6: fourth wall a little bit we have been walking around
[1:40:27] Speaker 6: this office for a year yelling uh at each other um.
[1:40:34] Speaker 1: So maybe Maul just said that in passing because we
[1:40:37] Speaker 1: have been yelling that at each other. Yeah, maybe that's
[1:40:39] Speaker 1: what it was. If you type in UGH with Matt
[1:40:45] Speaker 1: H's in our group chat, a lot of.
[1:40:48] Speaker 2: Stuff will come up. A lot of stuff will pop
[1:40:49] Speaker 2: up for sure.
[1:40:52] Speaker 1: But I mean, either way, I'm still here for Pusha T.
[1:40:54] Speaker 1: You going to the rodeo? Oh, my bad. Yeah, I
[1:41:00] Speaker 1: thought that was you just going to the rodeo.
[1:41:02] Speaker 4: That's different.
[1:41:03] Speaker 2: Well, you just slowed it down. I thought you was
[1:41:05] Speaker 2: riding an angry bull.
[1:41:08] Speaker 1: When is the rodeo in Houston? Like that weekend?
[1:41:12] Speaker 4: It's the spring break weekend. It's like the weekend of
[1:41:16] Speaker 4: March 21st.
[1:41:16] Speaker 1: I'm going next year. Because Don got to be performing, right? What?
[1:41:19] Speaker 1: There's no way Don doesn't do the rodeo next year.
[1:41:21] Speaker 3: She was in Texas then. Ooh, baby D, it's going
[1:41:25] Speaker 3: to go off. It's going to go off next year. Yeah,
[1:41:29] Speaker 3: I'm going.
[1:41:30] Speaker 1: Fuck that. March 22nd.
[1:41:33] Speaker 4: Well, that was last year. Yeah.
[1:41:35] Speaker 3: March 2nd to... Oh, that was last year. Yeah.
[1:41:38] Speaker 4: It's usually like March of.
[1:41:40] Speaker 2: But March though.
[1:41:41] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[1:41:41] Speaker 2: So this year is going to be the 2nd to
[1:41:43] Speaker 2: the 21st.
[1:41:43] Speaker 4: The 2nd to the 21st of next year. Yeah.
[1:41:45] Speaker 2: I might not do all 19 days, but they're going
[1:41:49] Speaker 2: to see me full five.
[1:41:50] Speaker 4: I feel like we should record for a week down there.
[1:41:52] Speaker 2: That's what you feel like?
[1:41:54] Speaker 1: Look what Damaris feel like.
[1:41:56] Speaker 4: I'll come down there for like two days with y'all.
[1:41:58] Speaker 3: I feel like that. You feel like, yeah, maybe. Maybe
[1:42:00] Speaker 3: we should go out there for that. Dress up like
[1:42:03] Speaker 3: Cowboys and cowgirls?
[1:42:04] Speaker 4: You going to wear your assless chaps?
[1:42:10] Speaker 3: She be trying to tempt me to go there, but
[1:42:13] Speaker 3: I'm not going to go there with you. No, Damaris,
[1:42:15] Speaker 3: I won't be wearing assless chaps. Sorry to disappoint you.
[1:42:18] Speaker 1: We can wear pants and then put the chaps.
[1:42:20] Speaker 2: I'll just wear my jeans, my denims.
[1:42:22] Speaker 4: Oh, they're going to know you from New York. Why?
[1:42:24] Speaker 3: Because my ass ain't out?
[1:42:27] Speaker 4: No. I thought you meant like you was going to
[1:42:30] Speaker 4: dress like how you regularly dress.
[1:42:31] Speaker 3: No, I'm having my denims, my cowboy boots on, the hat.
[1:42:34] Speaker 3: I'm going to give them the whole thing.
[1:42:36] Speaker 4: You have an upside down cowboy hat? Yeah.
[1:42:38] Speaker 1: You have to. Absolutely. You're fucking right. Wasn't one of
[1:42:41] Speaker 1: the village people a cowboy?
[1:42:42] Speaker 2: What are you trying to say?
[1:42:45] Speaker 1: She said you're from New York.
[1:42:46] Speaker 2: There was an Irishman in the village.
[1:42:48] Speaker 1: They was probably all Irish. Were the village people really
[1:42:52] Speaker 1: from New York though? I don't know. Probably.
[1:42:56] Speaker 2: They probably met at a fucking bar right there on
[1:42:58] Speaker 2: fucking West 6th Street.
[1:42:59] Speaker 1: At Tompkins Park or some shit. Let's fucking make a groove, man. Oh,
[1:43:04] Speaker 1: one of them wouldn't got candy. You can't dress like
[1:43:06] Speaker 1: a Native American.
[1:43:07] Speaker 2: No, they would get candy.
[1:43:08] Speaker 1: Because you know they called him like Indian David.
[1:43:09] Speaker 4: They were formed in New York, New York in 1977.
[1:43:13] Speaker 4: Their name comes from Greenwich Village.
[1:43:15] Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know that part. The village, but. New
[1:43:20] Speaker 1: York staple, man. YMCA.
[1:43:21] Speaker 3: Man.
[1:43:22] Speaker 1: Where all the boys play. can't go to.
[1:43:24] Speaker 2: The yankee game without hearing it they keep you know the.
[1:43:28] Speaker 1: History of that the village people the history of why
[1:43:32] Speaker 1: ymca is played during the seventh inning stretch no so
[1:43:36] Speaker 1: um manhattan college where my dad attended the um like
[1:43:41] Speaker 1: main priest the jaspers the priest decided that at the
[1:43:46] Speaker 1: seventh inning they should play the village people Do with
[1:43:50] Speaker 1: that what you will. I'm just telling you the history
[1:43:52] Speaker 1: comes from the priest at Manhattan College started the YMCA being.
[1:43:57] Speaker 4: Played at the seventh inning stretch at Yankee Stadium.
[1:44:00] Speaker 3: What?
[1:44:01] Speaker 1: Do with that information what you will.
[1:44:02] Speaker 3: That's the most random piece of information I think I've
[1:44:07] Speaker 3: ever gotten.
[1:44:08] Speaker 1: Well, you're not a Jasper.
[1:44:10] Speaker 3: Well, that is true.
[1:44:12] Speaker 1: But yes, it comes from priests and songs about kids
[1:44:16] Speaker 1: at the YMCA. All right.
[1:44:18] Speaker 4: I'm just letting you know, Google says nothing about that.
[1:44:20] Speaker 4: That is Rory's personal story.
[1:44:22] Speaker 1: That's a fact.
[1:44:25] Speaker 3: Playing while I see me do the service is primarily
[1:44:27] Speaker 3: a famous tradition of New York Yankees. It started in
[1:44:29] Speaker 3: the late 90s, early 2000s, after team executives saw fans
[1:44:32] Speaker 3: and players dancing to the disco song during spring.
[1:44:35] Speaker 1: Who invented the seventh inning stretch?
[1:44:37] Speaker 3: Leading them, Steinbrenner, to have the grounds crew dress up
[1:44:39] Speaker 3: in costume and lead the crowd in an iconic arm
[1:44:41] Speaker 3: movement dance. yeah Rory I don't know I think your
[1:44:45] Speaker 3: dad might have told you that one night when he
[1:44:47] Speaker 3: had a little too much of the sippy sip sip like.
[1:44:52] Speaker 2: He might have made that one up.
[1:44:55] Speaker 1: Brother Jasper who invented the seventh inning stretch brother Jasper
[1:45:00] Speaker 1: from Manhattan College the athletic director.
[1:45:02] Speaker 3: The exact origin of the seventh inning stretch shut up
[1:45:05] Speaker 3: is unknown but two popular stories credit either brother Jasper
[1:45:10] Speaker 3: or president William Howard Taft crazy.
[1:45:14] Speaker 1: Who was Brother Jasper? He was the athletic director and
[1:45:17] Speaker 1: coach of Manhattan College in New York.
[1:45:19] Speaker 3: True. During an 1882 game against the professional New York Metropolitans,
[1:45:25] Speaker 3: he noticed the student crowd getting restless and noisy during
[1:45:28] Speaker 3: the 17... 1882?
[1:45:28] Speaker 1: Fucking.
[1:45:29] Speaker 2: The rest.
[1:45:32] Speaker 1: Wasn't even out yet. What the fuck are we talking about?
[1:45:36] Speaker 1: It was at a Mets game.
[1:45:38] Speaker 3: That song wasn't even out yet. So maybe he invented
[1:45:41] Speaker 3: the seventh inning stretch. I know.
[1:45:43] Speaker 1: And I'm telling you. Not the song. But they would
[1:45:45] Speaker 1: start to play YMCA based off the seventh inning stretch.
[1:45:48] Speaker 1: And that's where. Oh, okay. I mean, yeah.
[1:45:50] Speaker 3: Brother Jasper might have invented the seventh inning stretch. But
[1:45:53] Speaker 3: the song YMCA being played.
[1:45:55] Speaker 1: It's just ironic the song that they picked. That's all
[1:45:57] Speaker 1: I'm saying.
[1:45:57] Speaker 3: Oh, no.
[1:45:57] Speaker 1: Listen. Okay.
[1:45:58] Speaker 2: Now that I see the correlation you're making.
[1:46:00] Speaker 3: Got you brother Jasper knew in 1882 he did not
[1:46:04] Speaker 3: know the village.
[1:46:05] Speaker 1: People so okay all right I get what you're.
[1:46:07] Speaker 3: Saying we can cut all of this out no we're
[1:46:09] Speaker 3: keeping that all right fine Damaris has done this 10
[1:46:12] Speaker 3: times she wants to go to the rodeo March 2nd
[1:46:15] Speaker 3: sorry we'll be I know I'm good at riding bull
[1:46:18] Speaker 3: riding so you are I am good at bull riding
[1:46:22] Speaker 3: we saw your highlights that bull is they say you
[1:46:25] Speaker 3: know they said that bull ain't been the same I'm
[1:46:28] Speaker 3: sure he hasn't.
[1:46:29] Speaker 1: But yeah, I think you broke it. He broke the book.
[1:46:36] Speaker 1: I hear he still texts you to this day. After midnight,
[1:46:43] Speaker 1: just be hitting you up.
[1:46:44] Speaker 6: Yo, you in LA?
[1:46:48] Speaker 1: Oh, Demaris is crazy.
[1:46:50] Speaker 4: Can we just wrap up, bro?
[1:46:51] Speaker 3: Only Demaris will go to that restaurant and get on
[1:46:53] Speaker 3: that book.
[1:46:55] Speaker 1: And not fall off.
[1:46:56] Speaker 3: And then go sit down and start eating some mozzarella sticks.
[1:47:00] Speaker 1: Love that.
[1:47:00] Speaker 4: No hands.
[1:47:04] Speaker 1: Oh, man. All right.
[1:47:06] Speaker 3: Well, good seeing you beautiful people today, man. Hopefully we
[1:47:11] Speaker 3: covered everything we were supposed to. If not, we'll be
[1:47:13] Speaker 3: right back in a couple of days. Don't you worry yourselves. Also,
[1:47:17] Speaker 3: because I don't think we said it.
[1:47:19] Speaker 1: We're leaving. We're leaving.
[1:47:23] Speaker 3: But we were back sponsored by Boost Mobile Unlimited Talk, text,
[1:47:26] Speaker 3: and data. I just want you to know, we're leaving.
[1:47:29] Speaker 3: But just in case, we were only here because of
[1:47:33] Speaker 3: Boost Mobile's Unlimited Talk, text, and data. With that said,
[1:47:38] Speaker 3: we'll talk to y'all soon.
[1:47:39] Speaker 1: Be safe. Be blessed. I'm black. He's white.

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