# Jerry O'Connell - Part 2

An episode of [Drama Queens](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1571792783), 13 Feb 2026, 23 min.

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Sophia's conversation with "Summer's Last Resort" co-star Jerry continues with real talk about imposter syndrome, raising twin teenage girls and even the wild result of going under hypnosis. If you've ever wondered what actors talk about during their downtime on movie sets, this is it! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Hi everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to Work in Progress. Welcome
[0:15] Speaker 1: back to part two of Work in Progress with the
[0:18] Speaker 1: lovely Jerry O'Connell. Now we're sitting at work at base
[0:23] Speaker 1: camp in my trailer.
[0:25] Speaker 2: We ran out of time. Sophia's driver was coming and
[0:28] Speaker 2: asking for her to come, and I came into our
[0:30] Speaker 2: hair and makeup trailer and I said to Sophia, so
[0:35] Speaker 2: that chat we had, it's got to be top you
[0:39] Speaker 2: said too, Top two of Work in Progress, And Sophia
[0:45] Speaker 2: didn't even look away from doing her eyeliner and Sophia said, no,
[0:52] Speaker 2: no way, and I went Top three. Sophia went, dude,
[0:55] Speaker 2: we've had some schell Obama on the show, you, I said.
[1:00] Speaker 1: I said, that's very hard for me. I don't really
[1:02] Speaker 1: have top persons because there are so many different categories
[1:08] Speaker 1: of people who come on the show. I said, I
[1:10] Speaker 1: put you in the incredible comedian category, along the likes
[1:15] Speaker 1: of Chelsea Hammler, Whitney Cummings, iconic Jerry O'Connell. And he
[1:19] Speaker 1: was like, I really can't believe you don't just think
[1:21] Speaker 1: I'm one of the best, Like who is? And I said, okay,
[1:23] Speaker 1: Michelle Obama comic guests. Yeah, top absolutely in your Yes, Wow,
[1:31] Speaker 1: you can have it. You can have it. You're wonderful. Okay.
[1:38] Speaker 1: We we were mid interview, laughing and amused in such
[1:42] Speaker 1: a fashion that, as you explained, I absolutely missed my
[1:45] Speaker 1: pickup time, which I do not do. But luckily I wasn't.
[1:49] Speaker 1: I was actually ready early. I was ready before camera
[1:52] Speaker 1: was ready, so we were fine. But I don't like
[1:54] Speaker 1: to be late to the van. Currently, we have time
[1:56] Speaker 1: to finish this because if you can see from the
[1:58] Speaker 1: open door of my trailer, daylight coming in the scene
[2:02] Speaker 1: we're shooting.
[2:02] Speaker 2: It is a.
[2:03] Speaker 1: Night scene and it is an exterior, so we're literally
[2:06] Speaker 1: waiting for dark.
[2:07] Speaker 2: Do you want to know the thing I'm most embarrassed
[2:09] Speaker 2: about this film about. Okay, these shoes that I have
[2:14] Speaker 2: to wear. I'm showing if you're listening to work in progress,
[2:18] Speaker 2: my character wears these sandals.
[2:20] Speaker 1: You can't believe you're giving people free feet on the internet.
[2:22] Speaker 2: I would never oh yeah, I need that following. Oh
[2:26] Speaker 2: my god, but they're super gross. I hate them, and
[2:28] Speaker 2: it really is. Honestly, this is the hardest acting I've done,
[2:32] Speaker 2: is wearing these around. Like I'm a person who wears
[2:35] Speaker 2: these shoes.
[2:35] Speaker 1: They're your principal shoes. They are very sturdy, responsible Birkenstock adjacent,
[2:40] Speaker 1: but not as cute as a Birkenstock. I'll give you that.
[2:42] Speaker 2: Don't like men in sandals. Don't believe men were sandals.
[2:46] Speaker 2: Sorry to assigned gender and to assign footwear to gender.
[2:51] Speaker 2: Don't believe men should wear sandals.
[2:55] Speaker 1: Okay, that kind of fascinates me.
[2:56] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry to assigned gender.
[3:02] Speaker 1: It's okay.
[3:02] Speaker 2: I think women wearing open toad shoes. I think that's
[3:06] Speaker 2: that's a lot of fun. Wow, I think, uh, when
[3:12] Speaker 2: I'm just not a man who wears open to a shoes.
[3:15] Speaker 2: You never know if you have to run.
[3:19] Speaker 1: Kick interesting. Well, then how do you feel about being barefoot?
[3:22] Speaker 1: Like you're a barefoot at the beach guy.
[3:24] Speaker 2: Well, if you're at the beach, barefoot is fine.
[3:26] Speaker 1: I'm just checking because we're shooting at a beach, So
[3:28] Speaker 1: I don't I realize I don't know that you're fun.
[3:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not weird of I'm not weird.
[3:32] Speaker 1: About I do have a question for you, because you
[3:35] Speaker 1: know this is breaking news. Friends, you've heard it here.
[3:37] Speaker 1: Jerry's foot presence preference. Rather, it's it's not a typical
[3:43] Speaker 1: thing a person would think about something that is not
[3:45] Speaker 1: a typical thing I think for people in our industry
[3:50] Speaker 1: to do. But something I've always kind of wanted to
[3:52] Speaker 1: do is a thing you did. You went to law school.
[3:56] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is crazy. When when did you make
[4:01] Speaker 1: that decision? Why did you decide to then, you know,
[4:06] Speaker 1: go to law school but also come back to acting.
[4:08] Speaker 1: And were you ever caught in a pair of sandals
[4:12] Speaker 1: whilst at law school?
[4:13] Speaker 2: No, never sandals at law school, just checking I you know,
[4:16] Speaker 2: I was acting. And then it got very slow for
[4:19] Speaker 2: me acting and my wife was very busy and we
[4:26] Speaker 2: just had two children, we have twin daughters, and they
[4:32] Speaker 2: were about one and I applied to night law school
[4:35] Speaker 2: at an accredited law school in Los Angeles called Southwestern Law.
[4:39] Speaker 2: It's good law school. It's in that old Bolk Schollshire
[4:41] Speaker 2: building right there. And I had always wanted to go
[4:46] Speaker 2: to grad school. And I was like, oh, well, well,
[4:49] Speaker 2: my wife was working, I'll apply to grad school. And
[4:52] Speaker 2: I was like, what I'll apply to? Like what kind
[4:54] Speaker 2: of grad school? And I was like, I mean, the
[4:56] Speaker 2: only thing that interests me is like law school. Like
[4:58] Speaker 2: I didn't want to go to English. Didn't want to
[5:00] Speaker 2: study English. I didn't want to study film. Wow, I
[5:04] Speaker 2: just wanted to do I was like, let me just
[5:05] Speaker 2: go to night law school. Let me see if I
[5:07] Speaker 2: get in. So I took the LSATs and I applied
[5:10] Speaker 2: to two night law schools in Los Angeles and I
[5:14] Speaker 2: got into one, and I went to night law school
[5:18] Speaker 2: for a year. And then, ironically, it's funny, I had
[5:24] Speaker 2: a I had a TV show that was canceled abruptly,
[5:29] Speaker 2: and I was like, that's it. My career is done.
[5:32] Speaker 2: Like I know, but but you know.
[5:34] Speaker 1: How I know it's jarring every time.
[5:37] Speaker 2: And so then about a year past and I started
[5:44] Speaker 2: to audition for TV shows again, and I got a
[5:47] Speaker 2: TV show for CBS, ironically enough, playing a defense attorney.
[5:53] Speaker 2: And I think they I think they hired me. A
[5:57] Speaker 2: lot of it had to do with they were amazed
[6:00] Speaker 2: that I was, that I was in law school.
[6:03] Speaker 1: They were so funny.
[6:05] Speaker 2: Yeah it was, it was funny. Okay, So but I'm
[6:08] Speaker 2: a law school dropout. I dropped out because I realized
[6:12] Speaker 2: you can make way more money playing a lawyer on
[6:14] Speaker 2: television than actually being a lawyer. But you know, I might,
[6:19] Speaker 2: I might go yeah school school is really fun for
[6:22] Speaker 2: me too. I want to say, what's really fun about
[6:25] Speaker 2: school is a year around people who want to learn,
[6:30] Speaker 2: which is fun, you know. And by the way, the
[6:33] Speaker 2: fun thing about night school. I thought for sure I
[6:36] Speaker 2: was going to be the oldest person there. I wasn't.
[6:39] Speaker 2: I was. I would say in the middle, in the
[6:42] Speaker 2: middle that grad school is something that people do late
[6:48] Speaker 2: in life. Yes, and so don't be afraid to do
[6:51] Speaker 2: it if you're like me and an oldie and like,
[6:55] Speaker 2: oh god, I don't want to be the I don't
[6:56] Speaker 2: want to be the oldest.
[6:57] Speaker 1: I've been thinking about that a lot lately. I was
[7:00] Speaker 1: right before the holidays in December, I went and spoke
[7:02] Speaker 1: at Harvard and I was on campus doing various things
[7:05] Speaker 1: for two days, and I just was like, I want
[7:07] Speaker 1: to go here. Yeah, I want to be back in school.
[7:11] Speaker 1: I miss school.
[7:12] Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, if I can make a suggestion, you're
[7:16] Speaker 2: residing in New Jersey now, Rutgers is like an incredible school.
[7:20] Speaker 2: It's right there like anything. You're smart, and it's like
[7:28] Speaker 2: you're going to find something and be like, yeah, you
[7:30] Speaker 2: know what, I'm going to study that, and you could
[7:32] Speaker 2: call them up and go, you know.
[7:34] Speaker 1: It would be very cool. When you talk about, you know,
[7:39] Speaker 1: pursuing a passion when work was slow, it strikes me
[7:42] Speaker 1: as a really proactive thing to do, you know. I
[7:47] Speaker 1: like to be a proactive person. And also sometimes things
[7:50] Speaker 1: feel really hard, And I'm curious when you think about
[7:54] Speaker 1: the times when success felt easier and the times when
[7:57] Speaker 1: success felt harder. How do you grapple with that? Like,
[8:02] Speaker 1: are you a person who experiences imposter syndrome and says, well,
[8:05] Speaker 1: I got to get over it because I got to
[8:07] Speaker 1: live and move on, or do you have sort of
[8:11] Speaker 1: more specific like tactics and tricks to get you through things.
[8:19] Speaker 2: Being in the entertainment industry is really all I know.
[8:23] Speaker 2: So it's all I can speak oneah, And it's crazy
[8:26] Speaker 2: because when you're younger, you're busy all the time. It's
[8:31] Speaker 2: just it's a young person's medium, Like they're the ones
[8:34] Speaker 2: who are in demand the most. There's the most amount
[8:37] Speaker 2: of roles for the ages of twenty to late twenties.
[8:42] Speaker 2: You know. It's just it's what they make. They make
[8:45] Speaker 2: young people. Young people are in TV, you know, so
[8:49] Speaker 2: that's when you're in the most demand. It's funny when
[8:51] Speaker 2: you get a little older, you feel and there's not
[8:57] Speaker 2: as much opportunity. I'm not saying, you know, I'm happy
[9:04] Speaker 2: with the opportunities that I've had, but there's not as much.
[9:07] Speaker 2: You know, you do, Like I did start to panic
[9:12] Speaker 2: a little bit. I don't know if it was having kids,
[9:16] Speaker 2: definitely insecurity, I think mostly feeling like I had no
[9:20] Speaker 2: control of something. And now that I'm older, I've come
[9:26] Speaker 2: to terms with I have no control over anything. I
[9:30] Speaker 2: have no control I As cheesy as this sounds, I
[9:39] Speaker 2: now if I realize I have no control over something,
[9:44] Speaker 2: I really don't worry about it and really just try
[9:49] Speaker 2: to because I do have We talked earlier about like
[9:53] Speaker 2: having I'm not diagnosed with obsessive compulsive disorder, so someone
[9:59] Speaker 2: to only I'm not allowed to call myself that. But
[10:02] Speaker 2: if I have obsessive thoughts, I try to. I try
[10:06] Speaker 2: to navigate them towards solutions.
[10:09] Speaker 1: Like that's how I feel about my sprout.
[10:13] Speaker 2: I try to obs I can't control it. I try
[10:16] Speaker 2: to obsess over solutions. Yeah, I think that's really You're
[10:20] Speaker 2: allowed to obsess.
[10:23] Speaker 1: We'll be back in just a minute, but here's a
[10:25] Speaker 1: word from our sponsors. You are a very dedicated person.
[10:31] Speaker 1: I've come to observe, like I watch the way you
[10:34] Speaker 1: talk to your kids. I watch, I watch the way
[10:36] Speaker 1: you are a family man. They're clearly so comfortable coming
[10:42] Speaker 1: to you, telling you anything you are. You are at
[10:45] Speaker 1: once like they're safe person. And also you manage to
[10:49] Speaker 1: make light of things. You keep things funny. You have
[10:52] Speaker 1: this really interesting blend of humor and real vulnerable honesty
[10:58] Speaker 1: in your life. And and you do it in public.
[11:01] Speaker 1: You know you. You do it on social media, you
[11:03] Speaker 1: definitely did it on the talk show. That's exactly what
[11:06] Speaker 1: we have to do as actors, even though we're not
[11:08] Speaker 1: playing ourselves. Do you think you're actually both self deprecating
[11:14] Speaker 1: and really confident?
[11:17] Speaker 2: I think I really. I try and live my life
[11:23] Speaker 2: with humility, for sure. Yeah, I try not to think. Yeah,
[11:32] Speaker 2: we got time in get in here, Come on hi,
[11:38] Speaker 2: get in here. We're finishing our podcast here. This is
[11:40] Speaker 2: the star.
[11:41] Speaker 1: Come say hi on our on our little video feed.
[11:44] Speaker 2: This is the star of our movie. Have a seat
[11:46] Speaker 2: right right here, mom too, get in here. Mom's important.
[11:49] Speaker 2: Say hi to hello everyone.
[11:53] Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love this way. Now you're over, Jerry,
[11:57] Speaker 1: So you're still in frame. I meant the iPad, not
[11:59] Speaker 1: your but you can do that too.
[12:03] Speaker 2: This is this is the star of our film. This
[12:07] Speaker 2: is Violet. Guys, what have you learned from watching? From?
[12:11] Speaker 2: What wisdom have you gotten? From myself? And from Sophia?
[12:18] Speaker 2: I don't know what I mean.
[12:20] Speaker 1: She's like, you guys aren't wise?
[12:24] Speaker 2: How have we blown your mind?
[12:25] Speaker 1: And you guys are really good at improvka like really
[12:29] Speaker 1: good at improv.
[12:30] Speaker 2: I learned a lot from both.
[12:32] Speaker 1: It's so fun.
[12:33] Speaker 2: I take this moment to say what I've learned from Violet.
[12:36] Speaker 1: Okay, you share your microphone.
[12:39] Speaker 2: I've learned. I've learned that if another actor throws a
[12:47] Speaker 2: drink in your face in a scene, to you know,
[12:53] Speaker 2: to be to not like be visibly upset about it,
[12:57] Speaker 2: and be okay and realize that I had. I had
[13:00] Speaker 2: to throw a drink in Violet space yesterday. I want
[13:03] Speaker 2: to say it is the hardest thing I've done as
[13:05] Speaker 2: an actor. I just had so much trouble. I don't
[13:07] Speaker 2: know it's because I have daughters. I had so much
[13:09] Speaker 2: trouble throwing a drink in a fourteen year old Okay,
[13:13] Speaker 2: I love that, And I was like, no, it's great.
[13:15] Speaker 1: It was a team effort.
[13:16] Speaker 2: We both did it.
[13:17] Speaker 1: You guys, actually you made the accidental spill look very
[13:22] Speaker 1: naturally accidental.
[13:23] Speaker 2: Great, you did great, No, Violet, you you're such a
[13:27] Speaker 2: great actress. It's it's so fun working with you. It
[13:31] Speaker 2: really is, you know, Sophie, and I've worked with young
[13:34] Speaker 2: people for years and you have a real talent. Thank you, guys,
[13:39] Speaker 2: Thank you.
[13:40] Speaker 1: You're a special one.
[13:41] Speaker 2: Kid you guys, thank you.
[13:43] Speaker 1: I just want to clarify, she is my child in
[13:45] Speaker 1: the movie You're soon to be step child. She's we're
[13:49] Speaker 1: we're we're special babies. Yeah, okay, all.
[13:53] Speaker 2: Right, get out of here. Let me finish. What was
[13:59] Speaker 2: I saying. I would saying, Oh, yeah, that I'm that,
[14:01] Speaker 2: I that I that I try to lead with humility,
[14:08] Speaker 2: mostly because it's funny acting. It's really taught it to me.
[14:13] Speaker 2: And in the sense that you're you are one job
[14:24] Speaker 2: away from never working again, you know. I mean, I
[14:28] Speaker 2: hate to say that, but like you know, when you've
[14:31] Speaker 2: had like professional failures, okay, it is hard to get
[14:39] Speaker 2: a job immediately after that, and so you have to
[14:42] Speaker 2: sort of believe in yourself, and so I try not
[14:44] Speaker 2: to think I'm really that important. Really, it is funny.
[14:52] Speaker 2: I have daughters, specifically one daughter who's getting into the
[14:55] Speaker 2: entertainment industry. So it is fun to see someone she
[15:00] Speaker 2: gets a lot of auditions just because there's a lot
[15:02] Speaker 2: of rules for teenage girls, you know, and I really
[15:07] Speaker 2: hope it's it's fun to sort of give her the
[15:16] Speaker 2: tricks of the trade. You know.
[15:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really sweet. It's really sweet. Do you think
[15:22] Speaker 1: you know, I think about this a lot. You know,
[15:25] Speaker 1: your kids are.
[15:25] Speaker 2: Teenagers, seventeen and they got wasted last night. They went
[15:29] Speaker 2: to they have fake ID, they.
[15:30] Speaker 1: Went to a bar.
[15:32] Speaker 2: Everything they told it to me. They got I haven't
[15:36] Speaker 2: talked to them, but I think they got drunk because
[15:37] Speaker 2: the wouldn't answer my snapchat. I snapchat with them. If
[15:40] Speaker 2: you want to talk to a teenage girl, download snapchat.
[15:44] Speaker 2: They have fun filters if they're your teenage oh yeah, yeah,
[15:48] Speaker 2: not strange teenage girls. But uh, you know, what can
[15:55] Speaker 2: I say? Like, and you know, some of the parents
[15:57] Speaker 2: are going to read this and be like, you should
[15:58] Speaker 2: punish them, you should come down on them, just like
[16:02] Speaker 2: no drinking and driving girls, you know, like, yeah, please,
[16:06] Speaker 2: Like if it becomes a problem and we're starting to
[16:09] Speaker 2: do it too much, you gotta let me know. You know. Obviously,
[16:14] Speaker 2: no drugs, no drugs. Hell, no, you know, no nicotine please,
[16:21] Speaker 2: it's so addictive, so addictive. You know, I struggled. I
[16:25] Speaker 2: struggled with nicotine for decades, struggled with it. Had to
[16:30] Speaker 2: get hypnotized. Yeah, I haven't had a cygy in like
[16:34] Speaker 2: fourteen years. You Also, my wife said she would not
[16:38] Speaker 2: touch me if I smoked. And that lasted about two months.
[16:42] Speaker 2: And by the way, no contact. My wife said, I'm
[16:46] Speaker 2: not touching you anymore until you quit smoking. Wow. And
[16:49] Speaker 2: I thought it was a joke. And then after like
[16:51] Speaker 2: two weeks there was no physical contact.
[16:57] Speaker 1: Wow.
[16:58] Speaker 2: After about three and a half weeks, I uh.
[17:01] Speaker 1: You realized it was serious. I was like this game
[17:03] Speaker 1: on and.
[17:03] Speaker 2: I was like I got to do something. And I
[17:04] Speaker 2: tried to quit and I couldn't quit.
[17:06] Speaker 1: And then you got hypnotized, you know.
[17:08] Speaker 2: I knew a girl who had quit smoking, and I
[17:12] Speaker 2: called her up and I said, how did you do it?
[17:14] Speaker 2: And she said, I'm going to give you the number
[17:15] Speaker 2: of this lady. And I went to see her and
[17:18] Speaker 2: I had to bring a photo of my children and
[17:20] Speaker 2: my wife and I sat down on her like like
[17:23] Speaker 2: a well, what do you call those beds? There was
[17:26] Speaker 2: a recliner, a recliner and she put her headphones on
[17:30] Speaker 2: me and there was like spa music, and she was like,
[17:34] Speaker 2: I'm going to kilt to ten ten nine eight. And
[17:39] Speaker 2: I fell asleep.
[17:41] Speaker 1: And when you woke up.
[17:42] Speaker 2: When I woke up, I was like, I had to
[17:45] Speaker 2: pay cash. When I woke up, I was like, it
[17:49] Speaker 2: was cash, Like how much you want to know?
[17:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, like hundreds of dollars or thousands of dollars.
[17:55] Speaker 2: This was thirteen coming up on fourteen years ago. I
[17:59] Speaker 2: had to pay her eight hundred cash eighth. Yeah, no,
[18:04] Speaker 2: I don't know how long. I don't know how long
[18:05] Speaker 2: it was. I don't know how long it was.
[18:08] Speaker 1: That's a good gig if you can do it.
[18:10] Speaker 2: I woke up and I was like, that was boloney,
[18:13] Speaker 2: what a joke. I can't believe I just gave some
[18:17] Speaker 2: old lady eight hundred dollars. What a waste of money.
[18:20] Speaker 1: And you've never had a cigarette.
[18:21] Speaker 2: I walked to my car, I got in it. I
[18:23] Speaker 2: had a pack of Sorry to give them a plug.
[18:26] Speaker 2: I don't want them to be a sponsor of the show.
[18:28] Speaker 2: Marlborough Mediums random cigarette. Well, I didn't want to. Lights
[18:34] Speaker 2: were too light and reds were too heavy. I'm not
[18:36] Speaker 2: like not an addict. Mediums were just right, got to
[18:43] Speaker 2: my car, put the cigy in my mouth, brought the
[18:46] Speaker 2: lighter up.
[18:48] Speaker 1: You just didn't want it.
[18:49] Speaker 2: And I know I wanted it so bad. No, I
[18:52] Speaker 2: couldn't light it. No, I swear to you. I am
[18:58] Speaker 2: a real I've never been hit the ties for anything else.
[19:01] Speaker 2: I know they do like everything sugar.
[19:04] Speaker 1: Wow, I kind of want to do it.
[19:06] Speaker 2: Sales, sales. If you're in sales and you need to
[19:11] Speaker 2: be motivated. Because I said to another buddy of mine
[19:17] Speaker 2: who was a who was a who was like a
[19:20] Speaker 2: chain smoker. I told him what I did and he
[19:23] Speaker 2: went to go get hypnotized. Wow, he said he works.
[19:29] Speaker 2: He works in corporate sales.
[19:30] Speaker 1: He said made him better at sales.
[19:32] Speaker 2: The hypnotist said to me, if you ever want to
[19:34] Speaker 2: come in for sales, let me know he goes in
[19:36] Speaker 2: for sales.
[19:39] Speaker 1: Wow. That's insane. Okay, we've been called to set. I
[19:43] Speaker 1: had two more questions for you, but I'm just going
[19:45] Speaker 1: to ask you my last and favorite question to ask everyone,
[19:47] Speaker 1: which shouldn't be a surprise because it is also the
[19:49] Speaker 1: title of the podcast. I want to know at this
[19:52] Speaker 1: stage whether it's work or parenting or coming up on
[19:56] Speaker 1: twenty years of marriage or some other goal, going back
[19:59] Speaker 1: to law school. What what feels like? It's your work
[20:02] Speaker 1: in progress right now in your life.
[20:06] Speaker 2: This is going to be the best answer to this question.
[20:09] Speaker 2: It's going to be better than Michelle Obama.
[20:10] Speaker 1: Well, it's going to make you better.
[20:12] Speaker 2: Than Hillary Clinton. It is going to be better than
[20:15] Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, Vice President, Kamala Harris.
[20:18] Speaker 1: All podcast guests. This is why you're saying this if
[20:22] Speaker 1: you've been living under a rock.
[20:23] Speaker 2: My work in progress is everything. Everything is a work
[20:31] Speaker 2: in progress. Everything, my marriage, my career, my health, Yeah,
[20:39] Speaker 2: my relationships with co workers. Everything is a work in progress.
[20:45] Speaker 2: It never ends. It never ends. It's so funny, I'll
[20:49] Speaker 2: say professionally, as an actor, a big thing they say
[20:52] Speaker 2: to actors is you must not have to audition anymore.
[20:56] Speaker 2: Of course, it never ends, it never ends.
[21:00] Speaker 1: Just go up against better people. That's how you know
[21:03] Speaker 1: you're moving up. You just go up against better people.
[21:05] Speaker 2: Memor ends. Man, don't expect there to be an ending.
[21:08] Speaker 2: Don't expect you to be cured. Don't expect Okay, I
[21:11] Speaker 2: did the work. There's progress. That's it. The end. There
[21:16] Speaker 2: is no the end. It's continual.
[21:19] Speaker 1: Well that's the goal, right, I mean, if it's the end,
[21:21] Speaker 1: you're dead. So I would I would much rather continue
[21:25] Speaker 1: working on evolving everything, practicing more patients. Sure, by the way, nonchalant,
[21:32] Speaker 1: I was about sprout.
[21:33] Speaker 2: But I'll sprout. I mean. I talked to my wife
[21:35] Speaker 2: while we're traveling and doing this film, and my wife
[21:38] Speaker 2: was like, I think I said this earlier. You are
[21:40] Speaker 2: like a stressful presence in our home. I'm not kidding.
[21:43] Speaker 2: I actually thought about me like saying that out loud
[21:46] Speaker 2: to you. I need to go home and be less
[21:48] Speaker 2: of a stressful presence. It's something I have to, like
[21:50] Speaker 2: really like think about. I'm going to say to my wife,
[21:52] Speaker 2: like tell me when I'm being tell me when I'm
[21:55] Speaker 2: stressing you out, tell me when I'm stressing.
[21:57] Speaker 1: You know what you just need like a code word,
[22:00] Speaker 1: you need a phrase. I was gonna say, like, hey, six,
[22:05] Speaker 1: Like take it to a six. Okay, you're at a ten,
[22:08] Speaker 1: Take it to a six.
[22:09] Speaker 2: You said, take a number, okay, four six, Taking numbers,
[22:14] Speaker 2: Sophia told me. Sophia said this.
[22:17] Speaker 1: Dad is definitely not my advice. Jesus age, guys. This
[22:20] Speaker 1: is why he's fun to improv with and we have
[22:22] Speaker 1: to go back to work.
[22:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go make a movie. It's called Summer's Last Resort.
[22:27] Speaker 2: It's gonna be on to be this summer really enjoyed
[22:29] Speaker 2: to be. It's so fun, you're blessed. Then how do
[22:33] Speaker 2: we do it again?
[22:34] Speaker 1: We're gonna first of many

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