# Byzantine Wall

An episode of [Divided Argument](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1567718103), 11 Sep 2025, 1 h 17 min.

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We extend our record-breaking run with a discussion of the Court's two big recent emergency docket rulings: Noem v. Vasquez Perdomo and NIH v. American Public Health Association.

## Transcript

[1:12:01] Will Baude: Yeah. No, that's fair. And then I guess I do also think how I feel about this will depend a little bit on what happens to the Gavin Newsom administration, or whatever we're imagining as the Buttigieg administration in 2028. If the many nationwide injunctions against them, already pending in the Northern District of Texas, are quickly stayed by the Supreme Court in equal measure, then it's easier to say, “Okay, the court has moved us to a new regime where it's giving \[unintelligible room. If we go back to the way the Biden administration was treated in 2021, it looks a little worse.

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