# John Darnielle: meaning, musicals, and The Mountain Goats

An episode of [The Music Show](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/156556864), 19 Apr 2026, 55 min.

Audio: https://mediacore-live-production.akamaized.net/audio/02/jm/Z/4q.mp3

The Mountain Goats started out as a solo project by then-psych nurse John Darnielle recording directly into a boombox in his room. Their latest album (Through This Fire Across From Peter Balkan) is a "full-on musical", complete with french horn and a string section, recorded on what sound like very nice microphones. Darnielle's tastes and influences are esoteric and wide ranging, and so is this conversation with Ce Benedict, in which they discuss religious schisms, instrumental choices, and musical theatre. John Darnielle's new book, This Year: 365 Songs Annotated actually contains 366 songs and is published by Scribe.

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