# Awakening to the Life You Want: A Soul-Level Conversation with Masati

An episode of [Next Level Soul Podcast with Alex Ferrari](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1560904383), 8 Aug 2026, 1 h 49 min.

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What if the life you are living is only one version of what is possible—and every moment gives you another opportunity to rewrite it? After three near-death experiences, Masati returned with an extraordinary perspective on consciousness, identity, death, and what he describes as the hidden mechanics behind the reality we experience. In this conversation, we explore what happens when consciousness leaves the body, why he believes the traditional “life review” is actually a life relive, and how unconscious patterns from family, society, previous experiences, and our own identities may keep recreating the same reality again and again. Then the conversation takes an unexpected turn. Masati guides me through a live exercise that brings forward multiple versions of myself—the filmmaker, father, entrepreneur, storyteller, and eventually the young kid who first fell in love with movies in a video store. What followed became one of the most personal moments I've experienced on the show. We also explore quantum jumping, fragmented identities, genius and altered states, Tesla and Mozart, the nature of the timeless self, and the possibility that awakening isn't about becoming something new at all. Perhaps it is simply remembering what was there before everything else told us who we were supposed to be. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/next-level-soul-podcast-with-alex-ferrari--4858435/support. Take your spiritual journey to the next level with Next Level Soul TV — our dedicated streaming home for conscious storytelling and soulful transformation. Experience exclusive programs, original series, movies, tv shows, workshops, audiobooks, meditations, and a growing library of inspiring content created to elevate, heal, and awaken. Begin your membership or explore our free titles here: https://www.nextlevelsoul.tv

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[1:27] Speaker 1: Now let's dive into today's episode. I'd like to welcome
[1:31] Speaker 1: back to the show returning champion Asati. How you doing
[1:34] Speaker 1: with Aati?
[1:34] Speaker 2: I'm doing fantastic, Alex, thanks for having me back.
[1:36] Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming back on the show. Dude,
[1:38] Speaker 1: our last conversation people really really loved it, you know it.
[1:43] Speaker 1: We went deep down the rabbit hole of your near
[1:45] Speaker 1: death experience. Yes, can you really quickly for people who
[1:48] Speaker 1: didn't read or listen to that last episode, just tell
[1:53] Speaker 1: us really quickly about your near death experience if you can.
[1:55] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:55] Speaker 2: I've had three of them, and there were more learning
[1:59] Speaker 2: or graduate experiences for me. So the first one literally
[2:02] Speaker 2: allowed me to understand what we all seek, you know,
[2:05] Speaker 2: the deeper potential of who we are. So the first
[2:07] Speaker 2: one showed me is like, damn, that's our potential that
[2:10] Speaker 2: we could like literally create or manifest in this reality.
[2:14] Speaker 2: So the first one was more of a journeyman, actually
[2:18] Speaker 2: an apprentice level. The second allowed me to see the code,
[2:22] Speaker 2: the mechanics on how to say render those realities the
[2:25] Speaker 2: potential that we feel deep inside and bring it into
[2:28] Speaker 2: physical reality, like aging younger, or you know, creating wealth
[2:32] Speaker 2: without the sacrifice and all those patterns that we do.
[2:34] Speaker 2: So that was more of I would say a journeyman,
[2:38] Speaker 2: where you get proficient at creating say fantastic events for
[2:42] Speaker 2: yourself and others. The third near death, I think was
[2:47] Speaker 2: a mastery level for me where I started to change
[2:50] Speaker 2: my say genetic coding, like I have an age like
[2:53] Speaker 2: my family has. I don't have the diseases that my
[2:56] Speaker 2: family has, you know, just eliminating all that and just
[2:59] Speaker 2: looking younger, you know, more proficient, more, more healthy, more
[3:04] Speaker 2: everything the way we should.
[3:06] Speaker 1: Age basically exactly exactly. So you're not eating fast food
[3:10] Speaker 1: every day, is.
[3:10] Speaker 2: What you're saying. It's not that you force yourself not to.
[3:15] Speaker 2: You just don't want to eat because it's not good
[3:16] Speaker 2: for you, right, you know what I mean. It's it's
[3:18] Speaker 2: a very different level.
[3:19] Speaker 1: You know. It's funny, funny. I had a Yogi Indian
[3:23] Speaker 1: guru in the room just a few weeks ago actually,
[3:27] Speaker 1: and he's a profound master. I mean, he's eighty two
[3:29] Speaker 1: he's legendary, and his energy like his or you can
[3:33] Speaker 1: just feel it when he's in the room. But right
[3:36] Speaker 1: before it's just the funniest story. And by the time
[3:40] Speaker 1: this comes out, it might you might have heard it
[3:42] Speaker 1: other times, but I just think it's hilarious. Is that
[3:45] Speaker 1: he said to me. He's like, Alex, do you have
[3:47] Speaker 1: any garbage food? Because in the studio. In the studio
[3:50] Speaker 1: we have pretty much clean food. You know, it's all
[3:52] Speaker 1: pretty much you know, healthy and you know nice, you know,
[3:54] Speaker 1: nothing crazy, but you know a couple of treats, but
[3:57] Speaker 1: generally not we don't have garbage food here because it's
[4:00] Speaker 1: not what we do. And he's like, do you have
[4:02] Speaker 1: garbage I go, what is? What is garbage food? He
[4:04] Speaker 1: goes Snickers? Do you have snickers? Do you have a butterfinger?
[4:08] Speaker 1: Do you have a And I go, why do you
[4:11] Speaker 1: need I'm just curious. Why do you need this? He goes,
[4:14] Speaker 1: I need it because it's what grounds me when I
[4:16] Speaker 1: go into a into a session like this, because if not,
[4:21] Speaker 1: I will just keep going. And what it Because the
[4:24] Speaker 1: energy of that garbage food keeps them, he keeps them
[4:28] Speaker 1: grounded to earth. And it's hard to think about how
[4:31] Speaker 1: that is, isn't it? But it's fascinating. I get it.
[4:34] Speaker 1: I get it.
[4:34] Speaker 2: I get it. I use rock and roll and and
[4:39] Speaker 2: what good steak and that's but that's a heavier vibration
[4:43] Speaker 2: of frequency, kind of food that will keep you, you know,
[4:46] Speaker 2: a little bit more grounded to earth, no question, it
[4:49] Speaker 2: brings you back exactly as what have you been.
[4:51] Speaker 1: Fasting for thirty days? And it's a little bit different.
[4:53] Speaker 1: I just found that garbage food. I thought it was great.
[4:56] Speaker 1: So can you really quickly before we dive into your
[5:00] Speaker 1: amazing work, can you explain to people what happens to
[5:05] Speaker 1: consciousness the moment the body finishes when it stops, Like,
[5:10] Speaker 1: what happens.
[5:11] Speaker 2: To the consciousness when you die?
[5:12] Speaker 1: When you die? Exactly when the when the machine ceases
[5:16] Speaker 1: to work anymore? What's from your perspective of dying three times, which,
[5:20] Speaker 1: by the way, stop it. Don't die anymore, I don't
[5:22] Speaker 1: think any dude, Yeah, please stop it. After the third
[5:25] Speaker 1: one you should probably just slow it down. So what
[5:28] Speaker 1: actually happens when the body ceases?
[5:31] Speaker 2: And I work, you know, I've done like over one
[5:33] Speaker 2: hundred thousand sessions client sessions, and so I start to
[5:37] Speaker 2: see patterns you know, people ask me is like, hey,
[5:39] Speaker 2: can you help my parents cross over? Whatever? So there's
[5:43] Speaker 2: different levels of say, opportunities for that body. Sometimes a
[5:49] Speaker 2: lot of times unfortunately, especially with through hospice and through
[5:52] Speaker 2: you know, drugs, where the where the person is so
[5:56] Speaker 2: numb doubt that the spirit doesn't. The body dies, but
[6:00] Speaker 2: the spirit still thinks it's here. So the spirit literally
[6:04] Speaker 2: stays hangs out and I and I can see that
[6:07] Speaker 2: because and many people can experience it. You know, they go, eh,
[6:12] Speaker 2: I think, oh, my Dad's still around me, and it's like, yeah,
[6:15] Speaker 2: because he's still around, you know, So that presence, it's
[6:19] Speaker 2: like a dream state. Think of a dream state where
[6:21] Speaker 2: you can do everything that you can, but you don't
[6:24] Speaker 2: have to have a body to do it. That makes
[6:26] Speaker 2: sense for you. So there's a reality. This is reality zero.
[6:29] Speaker 2: Most most people go to reality one, which is again
[6:33] Speaker 2: everything you can do here, time still works the same,
[6:36] Speaker 2: but you can't bring density, so you can't bring a
[6:38] Speaker 2: body there. So in between zero and one, this is
[6:41] Speaker 2: where you see ghosts or wisps or you know, feel
[6:45] Speaker 2: presences things of things of that nature. They're stuck, say.
[6:48] Speaker 1: In elementals as well. Can you see elementals in that
[6:51] Speaker 1: and that. Yeah, like you know, you know what elementals,
[6:53] Speaker 1: right y, yeah, that kind of thing, things that are
[6:55] Speaker 1: not in this density. Yes, but there they you get
[6:58] Speaker 1: wisps of it.
[6:59] Speaker 2: Yeah, you get so that you get you know, like
[7:02] Speaker 2: like you know, like sparkly things and all the light
[7:05] Speaker 2: orbs and orbs and stuff like that there. So they're
[7:08] Speaker 2: they're in between the two layers, got it. But once
[7:10] Speaker 2: you transcend into that layer again, you can't bring any
[7:13] Speaker 2: density only.
[7:14] Speaker 1: That's the third that's in the between. So there's this
[7:16] Speaker 1: layer zero, zero point five and then one one. Okay,
[7:19] Speaker 1: so now we're talking about one.
[7:20] Speaker 2: You got it. So most people hover at level one
[7:24] Speaker 2: because one they're not awakened. People who commit suicide, for example,
[7:28] Speaker 2: they usually hang out and they re enact say the
[7:34] Speaker 2: last say five seconds of their of their life here
[7:37] Speaker 2: and that plays forever. And it's not a loop. It's
[7:41] Speaker 2: just that there's no time, no space at that higher
[7:43] Speaker 2: level and they just like they just like forever feel
[7:46] Speaker 2: that torture. So it's not a good idea to commit suicide,
[7:49] Speaker 2: by the way, guys, it's not a good thing. No,
[7:51] Speaker 2: not a good thing at all. People who are awaken
[7:56] Speaker 2: and there's there's a couple of things that you can do,
[7:58] Speaker 2: and you know, help people do that. So when you
[8:03] Speaker 2: die properly or an awaken death, you start to say,
[8:08] Speaker 2: start to re render your life. Now, my first near
[8:11] Speaker 2: death experience I had where I had a life review.
[8:15] Speaker 2: And many people go to a life review, but you
[8:17] Speaker 2: actually it's a life relive where you go through life
[8:22] Speaker 2: and you relive it the way it should have been
[8:24] Speaker 2: for you. If you were an optimal soul, if you
[8:27] Speaker 2: were awakened to your potential and you had the opportunity,
[8:31] Speaker 2: you probably wouldn't do a lot of the things that
[8:34] Speaker 2: we normally do here in life. Does that make sense?
[8:36] Speaker 1: So it would be equivalent of like we've seen this
[8:39] Speaker 1: happen with athletes, celebrities, musicians, these kind of things where
[8:45] Speaker 1: they you can see like wow, if that guy wouldn't
[8:48] Speaker 1: have had a drug problem or exactly, and he could
[8:51] Speaker 1: have been like, oh my god. So I always like
[8:53] Speaker 1: to say, like Michael Jordan, one of the greatest, if
[8:56] Speaker 1: not the greatest basketball players to ever lived, right, yes,
[8:58] Speaker 1: but he ate horribly and did not have the greatest
[9:02] Speaker 1: training regimen historically. Now there's Lebron who is a I mean,
[9:07] Speaker 1: he's a great guy and I don't want to get
[9:08] Speaker 1: into that right now, guys, but my point is that
[9:11] Speaker 1: he has taking care of his body in a way
[9:14] Speaker 1: that has given him longevity in a way that Michael
[9:17] Speaker 1: never had exactly. But what Michael did do is he
[9:20] Speaker 1: was able to do what he did eating McDonald's.
[9:23] Speaker 2: Well, you know, we tapped into a source, right, it
[9:26] Speaker 2: was something different, So what is that source? So despite
[9:29] Speaker 2: what you eat, despite he was doing something else. Yeah,
[9:32] Speaker 2: he was tapping into say, an altered state, close state, Yeah, Michael.
[9:36] Speaker 2: And you know again I do that for people. So
[9:39] Speaker 2: in that situation, if you're an awakened death, you go out,
[9:43] Speaker 2: you go back into that level one, and you relive
[9:46] Speaker 2: life the way it should have been. So this is
[9:49] Speaker 2: where again drugs, problems and all the problems that people have,
[9:52] Speaker 2: if you were like an optimized being. And I just
[9:56] Speaker 2: want to back up, So there's always two, say, parallel
[10:00] Speaker 2: lives that you live, your optimal self that you're comparing
[10:03] Speaker 2: yourself to what could have been without you know the
[10:05] Speaker 2: genetic patterns, uh, you know programming, you know societal patterns,
[10:11] Speaker 2: generational patterns, and you know your previous lifetimes and so on,
[10:14] Speaker 2: so that optimal self is always running say parallel with
[10:18] Speaker 2: you and you can always say activate that whenever as
[10:22] Speaker 2: long as you and that's what awakening is, so if
[10:25] Speaker 2: that makes sense to you. So so so you're always referencing, say,
[10:29] Speaker 2: your optimal self no matter where you are compared to
[10:32] Speaker 2: what you're doing physical do.
[10:34] Speaker 1: They do those interact sometimes depending on what you're doing,
[10:38] Speaker 1: Like if you're if you read a book or you
[10:40] Speaker 1: started to awaken, do you get to that optimum and
[10:43] Speaker 1: then maybe.
[10:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, you start to Yeah, so that optimal self is there,
[10:48] Speaker 2: that's where you're awakening. When people go you know, it's
[10:50] Speaker 2: an awakening experience, it's like, oh, I'm seeing my life
[10:54] Speaker 2: through that optimal version of who I am. We have
[10:57] Speaker 2: void of those and we have glimpses of that. That's
[10:59] Speaker 2: why we have glimpses because it's available for us all
[11:01] Speaker 2: the time. Beautiful, You're right, like psychedelic experiences message all
[11:06] Speaker 2: those things, go oh, let's leave this this, this, this
[11:09] Speaker 2: timeline behind and we'll go into this timeline. So in
[11:13] Speaker 2: an awaken near death, this is where your life review happens.
[11:17] Speaker 2: And again it's not a life review, it's a life relive.
[11:20] Speaker 2: So you'll go in and redo your life and go Oh,
[11:24] Speaker 2: that's the way it should have been, because that allows
[11:26] Speaker 2: you to graduate to the next level, so to speak,
[11:30] Speaker 2: and the next level and the next level and so on.
[11:34] Speaker 2: So it depends all depends on, say, how awakened you
[11:37] Speaker 2: are when you.
[11:39] Speaker 1: So when you relive your life in a life review
[11:43] Speaker 1: or a life relive. I understand that because from all
[11:46] Speaker 1: the near death experiences that I've spoken to, is that
[11:48] Speaker 1: they it's not like just watching a movie. I think
[11:51] Speaker 1: the best example of it, if we can give an
[11:53] Speaker 1: example of it, is in that click that movie Minority Report,
[11:56] Speaker 1: where there's like one hundred screens and you're seeing them all.
[11:58] Speaker 1: But the difference is those are all key scenes of
[12:01] Speaker 1: your life or your entire life, just in a way
[12:04] Speaker 1: we can't comprehend, but you jump in and live both perspectives.
[12:10] Speaker 1: Is that something that.
[12:10] Speaker 2: That's what happened to me. Yeah, the first near death
[12:13] Speaker 2: allowed me to relive my life up to that moment.
[12:16] Speaker 2: You know. It was like twenty two when I died
[12:18] Speaker 2: the first time, and so I was as like I
[12:22] Speaker 2: could I could experience myself being born, and you're not
[12:24] Speaker 2: watching yourself, You're you're just aware of how you're growing.
[12:28] Speaker 2: And twenty two years compressed maybe down into seconds, which
[12:34] Speaker 2: kind of blew my mind as like, okay, so what
[12:36] Speaker 2: happened there? Like how did I live twenty two some
[12:39] Speaker 2: years in just mere seconds? You know, or maybe a minute.
[12:43] Speaker 2: I don't know how long I was gone, Maybe like
[12:44] Speaker 2: ten fifteen minutes I was gone. So it was like,
[12:48] Speaker 2: but when online near death, I was very conscious of
[12:51] Speaker 2: what was happening to me. And that's the key difference
[12:53] Speaker 2: between say, my near death and most people's near death.
[12:56] Speaker 2: They experience it, but they're not, say, conscious of, say
[12:59] Speaker 2: what's happening to them? Remind your deaths. I was very conscious,
[13:03] Speaker 2: so I learned a lot.
[13:04] Speaker 1: So you were conscious like oh I'm dead, yes, and
[13:07] Speaker 1: oh I I oh, I see what's going on here?
[13:09] Speaker 1: I understand it absolutely as opposed to like where am
[13:12] Speaker 1: I is that Jesus like kind of thing?
[13:15] Speaker 2: You know, like you're traveling through you're actually like the
[13:18] Speaker 2: back you know, like in the studio, you've got the
[13:21] Speaker 2: back end. You know, you're seeing the back end on
[13:23] Speaker 2: how everything works behind the cot, behind the curtain. That's
[13:26] Speaker 2: how conscious I was.
[13:27] Speaker 1: So you were seeing like the and then you were
[13:29] Speaker 1: able to bring some of that information back because also
[13:31] Speaker 1: when you're on the other side. I understand that all
[13:33] Speaker 1: of a sudden you understand everything and you're tapped into
[13:36] Speaker 1: the universal cloud in the sky. Knowledge Wise, I.
[13:40] Speaker 2: Call it the universal database. Yeah yeah, yeah, I call
[13:42] Speaker 2: it theputer programmer by trades, I.
[13:44] Speaker 1: Call it the cloud because it's similar. It's similar, right,
[13:47] Speaker 1: So you put but then our programming or our hardware
[13:51] Speaker 1: cannot bring all that back in. So you brought in
[13:54] Speaker 1: glimpses of that because you can't bring all the information
[13:57] Speaker 1: that you have access to when you're on the other side,
[13:59] Speaker 1: or am I incorrect?
[14:00] Speaker 2: You could, but then you disappear.
[14:06] Speaker 1: Because that's not what this place is about.
[14:07] Speaker 2: What's a magic trick, right, because if you were totally awakened,
[14:11] Speaker 2: you couldn't render yourself here in physical form because you'd
[14:15] Speaker 2: you'd say, like a magic trick. Once you understand the
[14:19] Speaker 2: magic trick, the magic doesn't work upon you. So time
[14:22] Speaker 2: and space is a magic trick. Yeah right. And then
[14:26] Speaker 2: so if you understand how time and space space work
[14:29] Speaker 2: and still stay here, that's really the key, and that's
[14:32] Speaker 2: how you can bring say that pure potential into physical existence.
[14:36] Speaker 2: There's also another thing too, is that in your higher states,
[14:40] Speaker 2: time works very differently. Possibilities are available for you. You know,
[14:44] Speaker 2: if you wanted to be twenty years old, boom, you
[14:47] Speaker 2: know you're there. You know, in my second ear of death,
[14:50] Speaker 2: as soon as I thought of something, I was, I
[14:52] Speaker 2: was that thing, no matter what it was. It's like, oh,
[14:55] Speaker 2: I want to go to Paris. It's like I found
[14:57] Speaker 2: myself in Paris, you know, or you know, I wanted
[15:01] Speaker 2: to be water. It was really amazing the secondary death.
[15:04] Speaker 2: It's like, I want to be experienced being water, and
[15:06] Speaker 2: I was in different forms of water, you know, calm water.
[15:09] Speaker 2: I was like, you know, waves crashing, and I'm going, well,
[15:12] Speaker 2: this is really cool.
[15:13] Speaker 1: So you're feeling being a wave, yes, and this is
[15:17] Speaker 1: happening on the other side. Yes.
[15:19] Speaker 2: On my second eear death, I'm going, how does that happen?
[15:21] Speaker 2: It's like, how can I be conscious and be water.
[15:25] Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
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[15:35] Speaker 2: So you you live without form, You're not like a
[15:38] Speaker 2: physical presence. You actually morph into a consciousness of water,
[15:43] Speaker 2: which is crazy. Yeah, I mean it's it's like it's
[15:47] Speaker 2: mind blowing. So in that instance, it's you're you know,
[15:51] Speaker 2: you can morph into pretty much anything, but if you're
[15:55] Speaker 2: in linear time, it's pretty hard because you have a
[15:57] Speaker 2: physical body, so obviously you can't morph into that. So
[16:01] Speaker 2: there are a limitation. You can't bring everything down.
[16:04] Speaker 1: Right, But but you could all but you would want
[16:06] Speaker 1: to exactly, because that's not the point of this game.
[16:08] Speaker 1: It's not It's kind of like having the cheat code, exactly,
[16:11] Speaker 1: And that's not the point of this, you know, because
[16:13] Speaker 1: it gets boring if it gets boring, if you get it,
[16:16] Speaker 1: because that's not what this is. This experience is about. Yes,
[16:20] Speaker 1: you can experience things here that is much more difficult,
[16:24] Speaker 1: if not impossible on the other side because of yes,
[16:28] Speaker 1: the density true right, yes.
[16:30] Speaker 2: And the key here, I guess you know, is how
[16:34] Speaker 2: do how do you optimize yourself so you're not say,
[16:37] Speaker 2: running the same patterns because we're on repeat. I mean
[16:41] Speaker 2: we repeat the same wars, the same problems.
[16:43] Speaker 1: I mean as a consciousness, as a humanity.
[16:45] Speaker 2: As humanity. You know, it's like so, but there are
[16:47] Speaker 2: other like moments of time and space that haven't been created.
[16:51] Speaker 2: So the key here is like not playing the games
[16:54] Speaker 2: of you know, your past. It's like, what are possibilities
[16:57] Speaker 2: for your life that you could live? And that's really
[17:02] Speaker 2: really important for people.
[17:03] Speaker 1: So, you know, because I've spoken to so many near
[17:06] Speaker 1: death experiences and spoken to many researchers as well, is
[17:09] Speaker 1: there anything that you feel is missing from your experience,
[17:13] Speaker 1: from the tapestry of information that we know about in
[17:16] Speaker 1: your death experiences.
[17:18] Speaker 2: Most people, most researchers, think that it's a brain event
[17:22] Speaker 2: that happens. You know, the latest research is, like, you know,
[17:26] Speaker 2: the dream states people go through, the experiences that people
[17:29] Speaker 2: go through, it's like a certain rewiring of your brain
[17:32] Speaker 2: and so on like that. It's really not, No, it's
[17:35] Speaker 2: it's like literally a separation. It's it's the power source
[17:39] Speaker 2: that renders your physical body. So most people, you know,
[17:43] Speaker 2: most research think that it's just your physical body and
[17:46] Speaker 2: nothing else. But it's actually the opposite. It's your presence
[17:50] Speaker 2: or your life force that renders or creates your body
[17:54] Speaker 2: here and the other way.
[17:55] Speaker 1: It animates. It animates, well, anyone who's ever been in
[17:58] Speaker 1: the presence of a relative or someone who has passed.
[18:03] Speaker 1: I remember very clearly when my grandfather passed, yes more
[18:07] Speaker 1: so than my grandmother. Don't know why, but when I
[18:10] Speaker 1: was there at the funeral, I was probably in my
[18:15] Speaker 1: mid twenties. Yeah, I remember touching him.
[18:18] Speaker 2: Yeah, in the coffee.
[18:20] Speaker 1: I touched him and he was very obviously stiff, and
[18:23] Speaker 1: yeah all that. But I'm like, he's not there.
[18:27] Speaker 2: I saw that with my mother.
[18:29] Speaker 1: He's not there anymore. Like who whatever was my grandfather
[18:34] Speaker 1: is no longer in this.
[18:36] Speaker 2: Meat suit exactly. It's just a vehicle.
[18:38] Speaker 1: It's just it's that's all it is. We're walking around.
[18:40] Speaker 2: The meat suits exactly, That's all this is.
[18:42] Speaker 1: So but whatever that was, he's not there, and he's
[18:45] Speaker 1: not there. And that was the first time a young
[18:48] Speaker 1: man twenty five or so, that I understood, oh, oh
[18:52] Speaker 1: they're they're just they're just not there anymore.
[18:55] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[18:55] Speaker 1: So I don't know what that was, but there, but
[18:58] Speaker 1: whatever was, that's not my grandma father anymore. Yep, you know,
[19:01] Speaker 1: I see it. I see I see an aura around it,
[19:04] Speaker 1: like I don't see oors, but like I see, I
[19:06] Speaker 1: see what it was, and I can place my my
[19:10] Speaker 1: memories of what this looks like.
[19:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, but he is no longer. There is no longer there.
[19:17] Speaker 2: I've seen that with my mom. And this is again,
[19:20] Speaker 2: this is the science that we get into where you know,
[19:24] Speaker 2: so explaining that you know, and getting in getting it
[19:28] Speaker 2: into where we can say, duplicate the process over and
[19:31] Speaker 2: over for people. Duplicate what process proper death awakening while
[19:37] Speaker 2: you're in your meat suit. You don't have to die
[19:41] Speaker 2: to understand, or you don't have to have a near
[19:43] Speaker 2: death experience. You don't have to say, have say a
[19:48] Speaker 2: tragic awakening to say, hold the existence or the pleasures
[19:53] Speaker 2: of life, or have this life have meaning for people.
[19:57] Speaker 1: Every time there's been a major change in my life,
[20:00] Speaker 1: there has to be a small death of the old
[20:02] Speaker 1: self in order to move forward. This is my my
[20:05] Speaker 1: walking through it, and please tell me what you think.
[20:08] Speaker 1: But like throughout my life there's been these there's always
[20:12] Speaker 1: ups and downs. So when there is a major shift
[20:14] Speaker 1: of some sort, there has to be a death at
[20:16] Speaker 1: least from my experience of who you were. And I
[20:19] Speaker 1: think we're doing that almost on a daily basis. But
[20:22] Speaker 1: there's also because obviously, like our body is regenerating itself,
[20:25] Speaker 1: you know, all that kind of stuff all the time.
[20:27] Speaker 1: But I'm talking about the psychological self, the spiritual self.
[20:31] Speaker 1: The I'm like, oh, that's not me anymore, right, You're
[20:35] Speaker 1: if you're in an evolutionary standpoint, many people just are
[20:39] Speaker 1: afraid of that and they'll just stay here. Throughout life.
[20:42] Speaker 1: I've known many people, many relatives who I'm like, Jesus,
[20:46] Speaker 1: you're the exact same that you were twenty years ago, dude,
[20:49] Speaker 1: Like that's insane to me. And like you have not
[20:51] Speaker 1: like you're dressing the same, you sound the same, you
[20:54] Speaker 1: have the same job. You haven't done a damn thing different,
[20:57] Speaker 1: Like they just exact coast. Is that does that make
[21:01] Speaker 1: sense to that job with what you're.
[21:02] Speaker 2: True your point? Yeah, So, so what I see is one, uh,
[21:07] Speaker 2: most people see themselves from the physical being and they
[21:11] Speaker 2: want to reach out Like a lot of spiritual people
[21:14] Speaker 2: or a lot of spirit we teach a lot of
[21:15] Speaker 2: spiritual teachers to you know, to understand say the concepts
[21:19] Speaker 2: more at a logistical level rather than just say a
[21:22] Speaker 2: theorical or feeling level. But but most people think that
[21:26] Speaker 2: they're they're a physical being and they want to reach
[21:29] Speaker 2: out to their say spirit, But it's really not. So
[21:32] Speaker 2: what I understand, and you know we're just talking about
[21:36] Speaker 2: that is that you are of an ever present being.
[21:39] Speaker 2: I call it a timeless self rendering itself in physical time.
[21:43] Speaker 2: So it's a flip of that. Okay, Now, when you
[21:46] Speaker 2: create yourself in physical in the physical moment. I mean
[21:49] Speaker 2: you're you're a video guy. So do you understand you
[21:53] Speaker 2: understand frame rates? Of course, yeah, so frame rates so
[21:57] Speaker 2: each moment or better yet, have you seen those flip
[22:01] Speaker 2: books you know where you draw? Yeah, you draw something?
[22:04] Speaker 1: Yeah, so old school like the I forgot what they
[22:07] Speaker 1: would call, but they were the scopes back in like
[22:10] Speaker 1: the early nineteen hundred and eighteen hundreds.
[22:12] Speaker 2: Yeah, or you know you draw, you draw something on
[22:14] Speaker 2: each page and it's animation.
[22:16] Speaker 1: Well that's that's animation.
[22:17] Speaker 2: Flip the book and it moves. So that's basically how
[22:21] Speaker 2: you create yourself. So you are literally rendering yourself as
[22:24] Speaker 2: a frame rate. And actually there's quantum physics where the
[22:28] Speaker 2: universe says it moves in frames. It's not like fluid
[22:32] Speaker 2: motion like we think it is.
[22:33] Speaker 1: It's an illusion.
[22:34] Speaker 2: It's an illusion.
[22:35] Speaker 1: Well so now you're getting into my world. So so
[22:39] Speaker 1: for everyone listening. So frame when he's talking about frame
[22:43] Speaker 1: rates a movie frame every second that goes by when
[22:46] Speaker 1: you're watching a movie. This is shooting on old film,
[22:49] Speaker 1: but the digital is just emulating film. Exactly in America
[22:53] Speaker 1: it was twenty four frames a second. Yes, to render
[22:56] Speaker 1: realistic motion if you shoot less frames it goes faster
[23:00] Speaker 1: if you hit more flames, it shoes shoot slow mo
[23:04] Speaker 1: in Europe is twenty five, but it's basically close enough.
[23:07] Speaker 1: So twenty four frames a second is that? So the
[23:10] Speaker 1: illusion of movement when your eye is being tricked, it's
[23:15] Speaker 1: just being shown twenty four frames a second, and it
[23:19] Speaker 1: gives the illusion of movement. So when we're creating the
[23:22] Speaker 1: universe or our own life, this this code, this simulation
[23:27] Speaker 1: is also creating that, but at a scale that you
[23:29] Speaker 1: and I can't comprehend, right.
[23:31] Speaker 2: Because it's a very very it's a very very fast
[23:34] Speaker 2: frame rate. Although I have gotten people at say such
[23:37] Speaker 2: a high resonance that their life starts to glitch a
[23:40] Speaker 2: bit because they're starting to see the frame rates.
[23:47] Speaker 1: But my.
[23:50] Speaker 2: Point is that though most people just copy the last frame,
[23:54] Speaker 2: and like your friend you were talking about, most people
[23:57] Speaker 2: copy the last frame and put it into the next
[24:00] Speaker 2: into the future, and that's all they do. They copy
[24:02] Speaker 2: from the past, put it into the future. Yeah. So
[24:06] Speaker 2: in my work and exponential intelligence, we go, well, wait
[24:08] Speaker 2: a second, how am I rendering the next frame? So
[24:11] Speaker 2: you become an observer perspective on it's like, oh, this
[24:16] Speaker 2: is how I created the last frame of myself. The
[24:19] Speaker 2: next moment I can change just a tiny bit.
[24:23] Speaker 1: That's all you need.
[24:24] Speaker 2: That's all.
[24:25] Speaker 1: It's a small adjustment.
[24:26] Speaker 2: Yeah, because twenty four frames per second and you're you're
[24:29] Speaker 2: probably going you know, maybe a thousand, two thousand frames
[24:32] Speaker 2: per millisecond.
[24:33] Speaker 1: So so from this to this takes a minute. It's
[24:39] Speaker 1: this to this, it's just but you're moving.
[24:43] Speaker 2: But you're moving, So you become conscious on literally how
[24:46] Speaker 2: you're creating. You're rendering yourself each moment of time interesting
[24:51] Speaker 2: and you're not in most people, most spiritual events, most
[24:55] Speaker 2: motivational events, it's like in the future, I will be this,
[24:59] Speaker 2: but it doesn't work that way because you're creating yourself
[25:02] Speaker 2: broken here today. So it's like, as you observe what's broken,
[25:06] Speaker 2: whether it's your belief system, your logics, you know, your
[25:10] Speaker 2: health or whatever, you change a little bit each moment.
[25:13] Speaker 2: I mean twenty four frames per second. Obviously, you're creating
[25:16] Speaker 2: yourself a lot faster than that. You can have massive
[25:19] Speaker 2: transformations in like a week or a month or even
[25:22] Speaker 2: in like in a fifteen minute session with me, you
[25:24] Speaker 2: can literally like shift like that, and that's what we do.
[25:27] Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's what we are doing on a
[25:31] Speaker 1: subconscious level either way. Yeah, we're all depending on the progract,
[25:36] Speaker 1: depending on the programming.
[25:37] Speaker 2: Yeah, most people do it at an automatic level where
[25:40] Speaker 2: they're just going, I'll have what my mom and dad had,
[25:43] Speaker 2: you know, and they just render it there, you know.
[25:45] Speaker 2: But now it's like, wait a second, mom and dad
[25:47] Speaker 2: had it this way. I want it differently. And this
[25:51] Speaker 2: is where people like change how they age.
[25:53] Speaker 1: Oh, hold on second, this is this is interesting. So
[25:57] Speaker 1: as we're walking through life, yes, we're born, we come in.
[26:02] Speaker 1: I always say there is some programming at the factory,
[26:05] Speaker 1: which is karma and other things and pass lifes and
[26:08] Speaker 1: all that stuff. So when we come in, we have
[26:10] Speaker 1: a bit of programming in us.
[26:11] Speaker 2: Yeah, there's four ingredients to that.
[26:13] Speaker 1: I'd love to hear those in a second. But then
[26:16] Speaker 1: we're thrown in with conditioning and what my parents did,
[26:19] Speaker 1: and then what our community did, and maybe what the
[26:22] Speaker 1: religion did, and all of a sudden you're programmed. And
[26:25] Speaker 1: then now you are dealing with all of this stuff
[26:28] Speaker 1: that you agree to as a soul to walk in
[26:30] Speaker 1: because you wanted this path or no.
[26:33] Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if it's agreement or you just
[26:36] Speaker 2: weren't awaken enough, and you basically go, well, the next
[26:40] Speaker 2: version is it's automatic for you. If you're not awaken enough,
[26:45] Speaker 2: you just basically no.
[26:46] Speaker 1: No. I mean when I say it in agreement, I
[26:48] Speaker 1: mean soul agreement prior to incarnation.
[26:50] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[26:51] Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you're picking your parents, you're picking them
[26:53] Speaker 1: for a reason.
[26:54] Speaker 2: No. A lot of that is just nobody really thinks
[27:01] Speaker 2: about that. It's just people aren't really say that awakened
[27:06] Speaker 2: because if you were awakened to choose something, you probably
[27:09] Speaker 2: wouldn't recreate the same rendering as your parents.
[27:13] Speaker 1: You probably when I say awaken, are we talking about
[27:15] Speaker 1: the soul here or before before? So if you're before,
[27:19] Speaker 1: you're essentially awakened because you're a soul.
[27:22] Speaker 2: No tell me. Yeah. So, And that's and that's some
[27:26] Speaker 2: of the misnomers because it's like, well, why are souls
[27:29] Speaker 2: re rendering themselves? And then we have ideas of like
[27:31] Speaker 2: karma and so on like that. It's basically that it
[27:35] Speaker 2: goes back to people not dying properly. People die to
[27:39] Speaker 2: a level, say you know, they only go two levels
[27:42] Speaker 2: up and they're still burdened with, say, some patterns of
[27:46] Speaker 2: their past, and then they re render themselves in physical form, well,
[27:50] Speaker 2: they carry those patterns of the past, so they're not
[27:52] Speaker 2: quite completely awakened. And this is where you're not really say,
[27:58] Speaker 2: completely awaken and otherwise you wouldn't recreate some of the
[28:02] Speaker 2: problems that we recreate because it's not in nature, in
[28:08] Speaker 2: biology especially, you know, we always create a better version
[28:11] Speaker 2: of ourselves. That makes sense for you. So if you're
[28:16] Speaker 2: an awakened soul, you naturally would create a better version
[28:19] Speaker 2: of yourself. But most people aren't say that awakened as
[28:23] Speaker 2: they come back into physical form.
[28:25] Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying. That you said and there
[28:27] Speaker 1: was four things that you come in with. What are those?
[28:29] Speaker 2: Yes, So your genetic patterns okay, Like if you've gotten
[28:33] Speaker 2: you know, Aunt Betty's beautiful blue eyes, you not only
[28:37] Speaker 2: got her beautiful blue eyes, but probably all the tragedy,
[28:41] Speaker 2: all the heartbreak, all the you know, the joy and
[28:44] Speaker 2: experiences that those blue eyes were associated with. Interesting, So
[28:49] Speaker 2: it's not just your say the physicalness of say your
[28:52] Speaker 2: gene structure, so your genetics, and there's a lot of
[28:55] Speaker 2: studies on that people who have gone through there's a
[28:58] Speaker 2: study in Ireland, you know, five generations down people were eliciting,
[29:05] Speaker 2: you know, like big bloated bellies and so on, people
[29:08] Speaker 2: of famine. And these people have never experienced famine. But
[29:13] Speaker 2: then they realize, like, oh, five generations back there was famine.
[29:17] Speaker 1: So it's a generational karma.
[29:20] Speaker 2: Generational Yeah, So you have genetic patterning, you have generational patterning,
[29:25] Speaker 2: like the timeframe that you were born in sure right
[29:28] Speaker 2: carries that. So societal patterning, which is like cultural patterning religions,
[29:35] Speaker 2: you know, sex, you know what women have gone through,
[29:38] Speaker 2: what men have gone through, and then you have your
[29:41] Speaker 2: lifetime patterns and previous lifetimes. So those are four ingredients, say,
[29:47] Speaker 2: and different mixtures of it create you. And then from
[29:49] Speaker 2: there you you add your own experiences and then you
[29:54] Speaker 2: pass that on to your kids. And that's how we
[29:56] Speaker 2: just keep regenerating. But nobody ever, and when you're a kid,
[30:00] Speaker 2: you know, you're supposed to your parents are supposed to
[30:02] Speaker 2: be awaken enough. And this is how we don't again,
[30:05] Speaker 2: we don't say become awakened souls to recreate. When you're
[30:10] Speaker 2: a kid, your parents are supposed to go, we messed
[30:13] Speaker 2: up here. You shouldn't do that. Do it this way,
[30:16] Speaker 2: you know, and this is why your kids go why
[30:19] Speaker 2: is this happening? Why is this because they're awakening, they're
[30:21] Speaker 2: trying to they're going they're seeing that actual, you know,
[30:25] Speaker 2: the highest potential of who they are when they're a kid.
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[30:38] Speaker 2: Like I talked about the highest potential as always running
[30:41] Speaker 2: and they're going, well, why am I running this pattern? Mom? Dad?
[30:44] Speaker 2: Why am I running this pattern? And parents go well,
[30:47] Speaker 2: just because, and then they go, well, I'll drop them
[30:50] Speaker 2: my potential here, I'll I'll just conform pattern, conform, Yeah,
[30:54] Speaker 2: exactly so, and then you add your mixture, like I said,
[30:58] Speaker 2: and then you have kids and then it just it
[31:00] Speaker 2: cycles it over and over.
[31:01] Speaker 1: It's interesting that when souls, like because there are souls
[31:05] Speaker 1: who you know, the majority of when we come in
[31:09] Speaker 1: a society, humanity wants you to conform to a whatever
[31:14] Speaker 1: is happening of that time. So if you were born
[31:17] Speaker 1: in the eighteen hundreds, it would have been something. If
[31:19] Speaker 1: you're born in the Roman times it would have been something,
[31:21] Speaker 1: and so on. So every moment of every time throughout history,
[31:25] Speaker 1: whatever soul is being born into the world is conforming
[31:28] Speaker 1: to whatever that it's the greater community is asking it
[31:32] Speaker 1: to conform. Then yes, yes, general as a general programming idea,
[31:38] Speaker 1: it's true.
[31:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I totally agree with what you say.
[31:41] Speaker 1: So then there's the occasional souls who come in and go, yeah,
[31:47] Speaker 1: that's not going to work for me. Yes, and that's
[31:50] Speaker 1: those are the ones who push us all forward on
[31:53] Speaker 1: the spiritual standpoint. So all these souls here who are avatars,
[31:57] Speaker 1: they pushed us forward spiritualice. Then there writers than there
[32:01] Speaker 1: are artists, than there are scientists. They're like, you know, nope,
[32:05] Speaker 1: I'm not listening to what you're talking about. We're going
[32:08] Speaker 1: to create quantum physics because that makes more sense. Oh,
[32:10] Speaker 1: we're gonna do you know this or that equals mc square.
[32:13] Speaker 1: And they go against the grain, which is arguably one
[32:17] Speaker 1: of the toughest paths to walk as a soul. Yeah,
[32:22] Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And and it doesn't all
[32:24] Speaker 1: have to be Jesus. It could be just within the family,
[32:28] Speaker 1: or within your community or within your industry to do it.
[32:33] Speaker 1: But those are the most interesting souls to watch.
[32:37] Speaker 2: Yeah, and well, just to clarify, we all have an
[32:40] Speaker 2: opportunity to awaken, like I said, as a child, But
[32:45] Speaker 2: those souls that you're talking about that make the change makers.
[32:48] Speaker 2: They basically go, I'm sticking to my original path. I
[32:52] Speaker 2: don't care what my parents, what society, whatever, I know
[32:55] Speaker 2: this path is open. I'm sticking to this.
[32:57] Speaker 1: So are they just more awaken a bit or are
[33:01] Speaker 1: they stubborn? Well, there's that. Yeah.
[33:05] Speaker 2: If you've noticed a lot of people who say made
[33:08] Speaker 2: the changes, they're not stubborn, but they're very focused because
[33:13] Speaker 2: they see you can.
[33:14] Speaker 1: Say stubborn, I mean it's stubborn, which is a good thing. Yeah,
[33:19] Speaker 1: stubborn in the nicest way of that word.
[33:21] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sticking to my highest, purest possible self, regardless
[33:25] Speaker 2: of what you're telling, regardless of what society is telling.
[33:27] Speaker 1: It's you walking your own path. And I think that's
[33:30] Speaker 1: what's happening now more than ever because you normally, as
[33:33] Speaker 1: when you come in, you give so many people are
[33:37] Speaker 1: run by fear. Yes, And because they're run by fear,
[33:40] Speaker 1: a lot of them give their power away to governments,
[33:43] Speaker 1: to religion, to community, to their family to other things.
[33:47] Speaker 1: Because it's like, you know what, it's easier for me
[33:49] Speaker 1: not to rock.
[33:51] Speaker 2: Exactly, because because you're a kid, you go, you know,
[33:53] Speaker 2: you don't as an adult to you learn from a kid.
[33:56] Speaker 2: You know, you're like ten twelve years old, I'm going
[33:58] Speaker 2: to get beat up by my parents, so I better adapt.
[34:03] Speaker 2: And then you get accepted by being adaptive.
[34:06] Speaker 1: And then that's the lesson you learned.
[34:09] Speaker 2: And it's like, oh, I survive here, and then you know,
[34:12] Speaker 2: and then society and media, the government and all that,
[34:15] Speaker 2: it's like you better adapt, right, you better be part
[34:18] Speaker 2: of the norm, and then you lose your identity and
[34:22] Speaker 2: then that's where the problem happens. One thing I want
[34:24] Speaker 2: to talk about is generational patterns. Yes, you know, because
[34:29] Speaker 2: we get we get conformed. And in natural intelligence or
[34:34] Speaker 2: the way nature does it, we conform because it's the
[34:37] Speaker 2: most efficient way, you know, because it's at its high
[34:42] Speaker 2: to say, the first level principle in nature. In humanity, though,
[34:47] Speaker 2: the generational say pattern is like, we conform because it's
[34:52] Speaker 2: easier to control. That's the problem, you know, so we're
[34:56] Speaker 2: naturally born. For example, generation say generational situations. If a baby,
[35:05] Speaker 2: if you could say, clone a baby from say the
[35:09] Speaker 2: nineteen hundreds that didn't know about computers, clone them and
[35:13] Speaker 2: you gave them an iPad. They wouldn't know what to
[35:15] Speaker 2: do with that iPad. But you give a baby that's
[35:19] Speaker 2: born today, give them an iPad, and they intuitively know
[35:23] Speaker 2: what's happening. Why because it's built into that generational say ingredient.
[35:29] Speaker 1: Because they're at that plate. So in other words, if
[35:31] Speaker 1: we go back to Rome and show them a baby
[35:33] Speaker 1: an iPad, the baby wouldn't have any idea. But if
[35:36] Speaker 1: you give an iPad to a baby today, because it's
[35:39] Speaker 1: been around, because it's learned from the genetic patterning.
[35:44] Speaker 2: Right of society is like, oh, they'll know what to
[35:47] Speaker 2: do with that iPad. It's not just I don't know,
[35:50] Speaker 2: a rectangular thing that they play with. They would literally
[35:53] Speaker 2: start to say, play around with it. And it's proven.
[35:56] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[35:56] Speaker 2: Yeah, so that in nature it's beneficial for us because
[36:02] Speaker 2: it optimizes us to keep moving, to keep moving forward
[36:05] Speaker 2: to right. But then humans again, they circumvent it and
[36:11] Speaker 2: they distort it and then they apply their you know,
[36:16] Speaker 2: human say generational patterns. Uh, and then that's where the
[36:20] Speaker 2: problem occurs.
[36:21] Speaker 1: So we say human generational patterns you mean.
[36:24] Speaker 2: Uh, you know like Generation X, the Lost Souls, the
[36:29] Speaker 2: baby Boomer, I'm a gen xer, you know what I mean.
[36:34] Speaker 2: They're kind of Generation X. Their parents had to work
[36:40] Speaker 2: all the time, so they had to support themselves.
[36:43] Speaker 1: Where the last where the last generation? You know, before technology,
[36:48] Speaker 1: the internet and before social media. But we also know
[36:53] Speaker 1: what it was like prior. But we were young enough
[36:56] Speaker 1: to incorporate because when the Internet kicked, I was in
[37:01] Speaker 1: and I learned all the technology and everything. But I
[37:03] Speaker 1: remember rotary phonts. I remember before social media all that stuff.
[37:07] Speaker 1: So we're that bridge generation. We're really interesting generation is
[37:11] Speaker 1: you know, it's like we're weird and then and then
[37:14] Speaker 1: we have to be self reliant. We're the first exactly,
[37:16] Speaker 1: we were the first generation basically just like leave the house.
[37:20] Speaker 1: I don't care how you eat. We have no idea
[37:22] Speaker 1: where you are. You better be home by.
[37:24] Speaker 2: Lights out exactly.
[37:25] Speaker 1: And that's that's a real thing. Stranger things other than
[37:29] Speaker 1: the monsters was pretty accurate.
[37:32] Speaker 2: So we had to adapt to that. And that's not say,
[37:35] Speaker 2: optimal for us, no, no, So that's what we've learned
[37:39] Speaker 2: as generations, but as a say species, there's an optimal
[37:44] Speaker 2: version of say that generation that we could.
[37:47] Speaker 1: Operate on, and that's the parallel.
[37:50] Speaker 2: That's the parallel.
[37:51] Speaker 1: Is there? So there's one individual? Is there a parallel
[37:54] Speaker 1: for humanity in general?
[37:55] Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely? Every uh, it's a mastermind. You know, whether
[38:01] Speaker 2: you know you're an individual or you're a family. A
[38:04] Speaker 2: family has a personality, right, A family group has a personality. Absolutely.
[38:08] Speaker 2: A city has a personality, like Austin. Auston has a personal. Countries,
[38:12] Speaker 2: the US has a personality. So yes, all those have
[38:16] Speaker 2: personalities where you can edit and change.
[38:18] Speaker 1: And so then even on a on a country level,
[38:21] Speaker 1: you know there is repeating.
[38:24] Speaker 2: Patterns, there's repeating patterns. So you become an observer of patterns.
[38:28] Speaker 1: I love the way you said that, Yeah, because it's
[38:30] Speaker 1: because you could see it in the US. You could
[38:32] Speaker 1: also see it in Europe, in different countries. If you
[38:35] Speaker 1: study these kind of things, you look at them. You
[38:37] Speaker 1: can just look just throughout history what let's say, Great
[38:40] Speaker 1: Britain did right, or what France did or what Spain
[38:43] Speaker 1: did right, and you could see the patterning of what happened.
[38:46] Speaker 1: But then the US was this crazy experiment that we
[38:49] Speaker 1: started two hudred and fifty years ago. Yeah, and it
[38:53] Speaker 1: but it has its own now, it has its own
[38:56] Speaker 1: pattern and it's cyclical. I've noticed that too. It's like
[39:00] Speaker 1: we're going back now. I'm old enough to I'm old enough,
[39:04] Speaker 1: and you're old enough to see what it was exactly.
[39:07] Speaker 2: You'll see the cycles and I like what you said
[39:10] Speaker 2: about patterns. AI. The reason why AI so intelligent is
[39:15] Speaker 2: that if you handed like a paragraph of what you
[39:19] Speaker 2: wrote yourself to AI, it'll give you. It'll hand back
[39:24] Speaker 2: to you who you are, very very very well defined.
[39:28] Speaker 2: What do you mean like, It'll it'll tell you about
[39:31] Speaker 2: your personality based on you write any paragraph and you
[39:36] Speaker 2: hand it into like Claude or you know, chat GPT
[39:39] Speaker 2: or something and it's like, hey, tell me about me,
[39:42] Speaker 2: and it wouldn't know you, but it doesn't know the
[39:44] Speaker 2: meanings of the word that you wrote it. But how
[39:48] Speaker 2: you say, use the words, the algorithms on the words,
[39:52] Speaker 2: that's how AI so say intelligent. So what we teach is, oh,
[39:57] Speaker 2: let's bypass the emotions, let's buy pass your let's bypass
[40:01] Speaker 2: your genetics, and start to become observers on say, how
[40:05] Speaker 2: you are putting your life together, you know, moment by moment,
[40:09] Speaker 2: and then you'll get a more accurate picture on how
[40:12] Speaker 2: and why you're creating your life. And that's where you
[40:15] Speaker 2: can say change your algorithm, recode or rewrite rewrite the
[40:20] Speaker 2: code once because once you realize, oh, whoa, that's how
[40:24] Speaker 2: you know, that's the way I'm acting. It's like then
[40:27] Speaker 2: the truth comes out and then you change almost immediately.
[40:31] Speaker 1: So it's it's it seems to me that, okay, so
[40:34] Speaker 1: let's say a self realized master who's alive, let's say
[40:39] Speaker 1: right now, and there are many around the world who
[40:41] Speaker 1: are a self realized masters. It sounds like what you're
[40:46] Speaker 1: talking about is it's a repackaging or rewording of a
[40:51] Speaker 1: lot of the ancient ideas of code and Maya and differently,
[40:55] Speaker 1: and I'm trying to say that in a derogative way,
[40:58] Speaker 1: but I'm seeing I'm seeing the pattern. Yes, because of
[41:01] Speaker 1: all of the people I speak to on a daily basis, absolutely,
[41:04] Speaker 1: and I have a I touch all of it. I
[41:08] Speaker 1: see patterns in and I see like, oh, this is
[41:11] Speaker 1: just dressed up as this is this the same things
[41:13] Speaker 1: like this, and oh they're just taking from each other,
[41:15] Speaker 1: and like it's it's all the same. Your your way
[41:18] Speaker 1: of approaching it is unique. I haven't come across this,
[41:21] Speaker 1: but I can see the Veda, Yes, the Vedas in
[41:26] Speaker 1: there a little bit. I can see the Badavita in there.
[41:29] Speaker 1: I can see buddham Buddhism in the elements of what
[41:32] Speaker 1: you're talking about, but you're rewarding it or repackaging it
[41:36] Speaker 1: in a in a language that is of today, which
[41:39] Speaker 1: is code and writing in a sense, at least that's.
[41:42] Speaker 2: My personally repackaging it.
[41:44] Speaker 1: And that again not the word no. But here's the difference.
[41:50] Speaker 2: Like, so, what what they're teaching, for example, is they're
[41:56] Speaker 2: seeing it from the physical life and looking into it
[42:01] Speaker 2: in the spiritual, into the spiritual. Yeah right, so I'm
[42:04] Speaker 2: seeing it from the spiritual, going back, going back, that's
[42:08] Speaker 2: the difference. That's the difference.
[42:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree, agreed.
[42:10] Speaker 2: So we might be saying the same thing, just it
[42:14] Speaker 2: might sound similar, but if you flip it around and
[42:18] Speaker 2: you see it from that version, and that's what we
[42:20] Speaker 2: teach us, Like okay, it's like all the stuff that
[42:23] Speaker 2: we learn, the mysticism and all that. I'm not saying
[42:26] Speaker 2: that it's wrong. I'm not saying, hey, this is a
[42:28] Speaker 2: new version of it. I'm just saying, let's look at
[42:30] Speaker 2: it from a higher perspective upriver down right.
[42:34] Speaker 1: It seems it sounds like what you're absolutely right. So
[42:37] Speaker 1: a lot of the masters that I'm speaking of, yes,
[42:41] Speaker 1: came from the physical and they went out to the
[42:43] Speaker 1: spiritual and they talk about it like how to we enlightened,
[42:46] Speaker 1: how to become self realized, how to awaken exactly. But
[42:49] Speaker 1: because of your near death experiences and what happened in
[42:51] Speaker 1: your near death experiences, you went over here, saw how
[42:55] Speaker 1: the game is played, and I'm like, let me go
[42:57] Speaker 1: back and exactly cross that cross engineer, back engineer, or
[43:03] Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. Yea reverse engine reverse engineer.
[43:07] Speaker 1: You're reverse engineering the code and Maya and the matrix.
[43:11] Speaker 2: It's easier that way. It's much easier because you have
[43:14] Speaker 2: to die three times.
[43:15] Speaker 1: So there's that for me.
[43:19] Speaker 2: Other people don't, yes, exactly, but that's the key is
[43:21] Speaker 2: like most people go, well, I'm this broken person and
[43:24] Speaker 2: then I want to become enlightened. What we teach is
[43:27] Speaker 2: like wait a second. You have to remember that you
[43:28] Speaker 2: were enlightened and then you came into this reality. So
[43:32] Speaker 2: it gives you mastery. It gives you it gives you
[43:34] Speaker 2: a command of who you are and how you're rendering yourself,
[43:38] Speaker 2: which is very very different. I mean it's it might
[43:41] Speaker 2: sound the same, it might look the same, but it's
[43:43] Speaker 2: very very different. When you come from say a mastery level,
[43:48] Speaker 2: when you come from upriver. So we change things that
[43:52] Speaker 2: you know at the beginning. I call it the source
[43:54] Speaker 2: code or the inception frequency. Most people change it, say
[43:58] Speaker 2: down river. So they've already created the waves in space
[44:02] Speaker 2: and time. We're saying, it's like, wait a second, before
[44:04] Speaker 2: you create the wave, let's see what kind of wave
[44:06] Speaker 2: that you're creating, or what kind of experience that you're creating.
[44:10] Speaker 2: That's the difference, which is a huge difference.
[44:12] Speaker 1: Oh, it's a huge difference. No. No, I That's why
[44:14] Speaker 1: I like your approach to it, because it's just coming
[44:17] Speaker 1: at it from a completely different angle.
[44:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all getting we're.
[44:20] Speaker 1: All going trying to figure this out. Absolutely, we're all
[44:23] Speaker 1: just trying to figure this insanity out. Yes.
[44:26] Speaker 2: Yeah, And this way we start to say it's not
[44:31] Speaker 2: just random anymore. And that's what I was talking to
[44:33] Speaker 2: you about earlier. You know, once you figure things out,
[44:36] Speaker 2: you start to see the patterns again, the algorithms, and
[44:39] Speaker 2: you go, oh, I can duplicate those patterns, and that's
[44:42] Speaker 2: what we do. Otherwise, you know, all the mysticism and
[44:45] Speaker 2: the spiritual movements. Again, they're totally fine. They're they're very fantastic,
[44:50] Speaker 2: but they're hit and miss because we don't understand the underlying,
[44:54] Speaker 2: say concept of why we're doing the things that we're doing.
[44:59] Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
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[45:09] Speaker 1: It's just a different it's just a different way of
[45:11] Speaker 1: looking at it, and also.
[45:13] Speaker 2: From what I understand, very different, very different way.
[45:16] Speaker 1: But the other thing that's interesting is that every soul's
[45:20] Speaker 1: journey is different. And this is something I've discovered. Obviously,
[45:24] Speaker 1: that's a that's a basic statement. But not everything will
[45:28] Speaker 1: align with everybody. So in other words, this might align
[45:32] Speaker 1: with a large group of people, but then another path,
[45:36] Speaker 1: my another teacher, another way might align with that person,
[45:39] Speaker 1: and so on.
[45:41] Speaker 2: I'm not teaching a modality, correct, I'm just and again
[45:45] Speaker 2: I accelerate any modality that anybody uses.
[45:49] Speaker 1: Because you're you're you're the underlying code of it all.
[45:51] Speaker 2: I'm the yeah I teach. I'm like unlike the person
[45:55] Speaker 2: that is like, improves the atom. So what are the
[46:00] Speaker 2: ones you do with that atom? Whether you want to
[46:02] Speaker 2: make a heart cell out of it or I don't know,
[46:05] Speaker 2: plutonium out of it, it doesn't matter to me. But
[46:08] Speaker 2: I'm improving the atom. Does that make sense?
[46:11] Speaker 1: It does? Yeah? I understand what you means. So it's
[46:13] Speaker 1: kind of like you you are you understand the ones
[46:15] Speaker 1: in the zeros. Yes, you could talk whatever language, co
[46:17] Speaker 1: coding language you like. Yes you can do C plus plus,
[46:20] Speaker 1: you can do Python, whatever you want. But I but
[46:23] Speaker 1: I understand the ones in the zeros exactly how you
[46:25] Speaker 1: put them together, It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. But
[46:28] Speaker 1: without understanding the ones and zeros, you can't do anything exactly.
[46:31] Speaker 2: So once you understand how and why you're doing the
[46:35] Speaker 2: teachings that you learn from a thousand years ago, why
[46:39] Speaker 2: they actually did that, and why they worked and why
[46:42] Speaker 2: they worked back then and why they don't work as
[46:44] Speaker 2: well today, depending on the person, obviously, depending on the person.
[46:48] Speaker 2: So what's the key is it?
[46:49] Speaker 1: Is it?
[46:50] Speaker 2: You know, like a gosh, you know, you know, people
[46:55] Speaker 2: will do the movements, they do the form, but you
[46:59] Speaker 2: have to access, say the function on and the function
[47:02] Speaker 2: is like why are we doing the ceremonies that people do?
[47:07] Speaker 2: Nobody does that. People just do the ceremonies. They don't
[47:10] Speaker 2: ask why, right, you know what I mean? And then
[47:14] Speaker 2: what you get to the function, it's like, oh, that's
[47:16] Speaker 2: why they did the ceremonies. And then once you understand
[47:19] Speaker 2: the function, you know, the form becomes more visible for you.
[47:23] Speaker 1: Oh it because much more potent.
[47:24] Speaker 2: Yeah. And then once you get into that, this is
[47:27] Speaker 2: like the mastery level, then you go, oh wait, what's
[47:30] Speaker 2: the intelligence that accessed the knowledge to create the function
[47:36] Speaker 2: or the blueprint to create the form.
[47:38] Speaker 1: So yeah, So in other words, it's like you can
[47:40] Speaker 1: go to yoga class and you could do downward dog exactly,
[47:44] Speaker 1: but if you don't understand what's happening in downward dog
[47:48] Speaker 1: other than just a physical standpoint, yes, then you because
[47:52] Speaker 1: then once you understand why that movement is put in
[47:57] Speaker 1: this system, yes, then you have a much deeper understanding
[48:00] Speaker 1: and actually can bring your practice into or your experience
[48:04] Speaker 1: of that in a much deeper level. It's like either
[48:08] Speaker 1: I can eat the meal, but I want to know
[48:10] Speaker 1: why I'm why these ingredients will put together for my meal.
[48:14] Speaker 1: And then not only were the ingredients, are like well
[48:17] Speaker 1: what's the nutritional value? What does it doing to my body? Exactly?
[48:20] Speaker 2: And this is where science, I mean, you know you
[48:22] Speaker 2: touched on a couple of spots. I mean science can
[48:27] Speaker 2: make uh, you know, make an apple look like an
[48:30] Speaker 2: apple and everything, but there's no nutrition in it. It's
[48:32] Speaker 2: just sugar water. Yeah, but nature, right, they just duplicated
[48:37] Speaker 2: the form. But that's all I did. Yeah, And it's like, well,
[48:41] Speaker 2: why is it genetically modified? Because it doesn't give you
[48:44] Speaker 2: the intelligence or the deeper nutrition, the frequency nutrition behind
[48:50] Speaker 2: the apple or behind you know. Nowadays it's fake meat
[48:54] Speaker 2: and stuff or even like success. People just copy the form.
[49:00] Speaker 1: They didn't understand that.
[49:01] Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't understand, say what Waltha actually is, and
[49:04] Speaker 2: that's why they've got billions of dollars. And they come
[49:07] Speaker 2: to me and they go, mos, why do I feel
[49:09] Speaker 2: so empty because it's genetically modified success?
[49:12] Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of like it's like I'm watching the
[49:14] Speaker 1: World Cup stuff right now.
[49:16] Speaker 2: I love it.
[49:17] Speaker 1: I love it too. Now become a freaking soccer fan
[49:19] Speaker 1: for all of his ectually a football football fan. And
[49:24] Speaker 1: but then I've been I've been going down rabbit holes
[49:26] Speaker 1: with like MESSI. Yeah, you know, who's arguably one of
[49:29] Speaker 1: the greatest players. I don't want to get into it
[49:32] Speaker 1: if you don't agree, but regardless you he's he's a
[49:36] Speaker 1: pretty amazing player. But a lot of people will I'm
[49:38] Speaker 1: using as an example, a lot of people will like,
[49:41] Speaker 1: you can run the same way and try to copy
[49:44] Speaker 1: his form, but you don't understand why he did what
[49:47] Speaker 1: he did, and yet why he's analyzing the field and
[49:51] Speaker 1: how he did that. You could try to copy it, yes,
[49:53] Speaker 1: and that's what the GMO is and that kind of
[49:55] Speaker 1: stuff is doing.
[49:56] Speaker 2: So with like Messi, I mean I love his I
[50:00] Speaker 2: love the way he plays. Yeah, but people like that
[50:04] Speaker 2: and this is we help a lot of people, you
[50:06] Speaker 2: know that have amazing talents, but those talents really distort them.
[50:13] Speaker 2: So like Messi, he he Messi, Ronaldo, Ronaldo Senna, you know,
[50:19] Speaker 2: the race car driver. A lot of the athletes, they
[50:22] Speaker 2: get into an altered state of themselves. They're not them
[50:27] Speaker 2: so yeah, they're.
[50:28] Speaker 1: The channeling, Yeah, channeling something exactly.
[50:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, and then what happens, like so Messi he comes
[50:34] Speaker 2: in and he he knows the process. And I can
[50:37] Speaker 2: read anybody, you know, because after the second year death,
[50:40] Speaker 2: I have the abilities to read. But so Messi he
[50:44] Speaker 2: gets into an altered state and he's and that's what
[50:47] Speaker 2: people call in the zone. So basically the mechanics on
[50:50] Speaker 2: how to get people in the zone. But then when
[50:53] Speaker 2: he's not playing football, he's let's just say fucked up.
[50:59] Speaker 2: It distorts him because he goes into say altered states,
[51:03] Speaker 2: he's this version, but this version is only good at
[51:06] Speaker 2: playing football. This version is a dad, this version is
[51:10] Speaker 2: whatever this and it's like, but that's a problem. They
[51:13] Speaker 2: can't comprehend it because the nervous system. So what I
[51:16] Speaker 2: do with people like that is like, wait a second, Okay,
[51:20] Speaker 2: let's reference when you're in When you're on the field,
[51:24] Speaker 2: you know, you can use this version of yourself. When
[51:27] Speaker 2: you're off the field, you can use this version. And
[51:30] Speaker 2: he becomes more a palatable person to be with because
[51:34] Speaker 2: people like that they're hard to be around. Oh I know,
[51:38] Speaker 2: Oh I know. I work with a lot of football
[51:40] Speaker 2: players' wives because it's like Moss, my husband's a football
[51:44] Speaker 2: player in the bedroom with my kids with me. That's
[51:48] Speaker 2: all they know because their their idea of self is, hey,
[51:52] Speaker 2: I'm a great football player.
[51:53] Speaker 1: They don't. Yeah, it's kind of like and that's all
[51:56] Speaker 1: they know. Yeah, it's it's it happened like with Michael
[52:00] Speaker 1: Phelps after his run. He's been fighting depression and he's
[52:06] Speaker 1: doing well, but he didn't understand he was so Michael
[52:11] Speaker 1: Phelps as the swimmer, as a champion, that he couldn't
[52:16] Speaker 1: figure out anything else. There's a director named Ridley Scott
[52:22] Speaker 1: who I love, did a bunch of amazing, historic, amazing films.
[52:27] Speaker 1: I was interviewing one of his collaborators, and I found
[52:30] Speaker 1: out that really doesn't stop. He's like in his seventies,
[52:35] Speaker 1: he cannot not be making a movie. So he's in
[52:38] Speaker 1: a constant state of making movies for I don't know,
[52:44] Speaker 1: forty five fifty years. At this point, he's been doing
[52:46] Speaker 1: from commercials. So literally, he like and she's like, well,
[52:49] Speaker 1: when he's not working, he's down in his property painting
[52:53] Speaker 1: because that's all he knows how to do. But within
[52:56] Speaker 1: weeks he has to be on another movie exactly to funk,
[53:00] Speaker 1: to function, or you have to.
[53:02] Speaker 2: Make the next million, or the next million or the
[53:06] Speaker 2: next you know, I'm talking about the billionaires. The billionaire
[53:09] Speaker 2: or you know, I have to you know, conquer another
[53:11] Speaker 2: woman or this thing or this thing.
[53:13] Speaker 1: Because they have no sense of they have no sense
[53:15] Speaker 1: of the exactly that's genetically modified.
[53:18] Speaker 2: They just took the form, right, they just took the form,
[53:23] Speaker 2: but not the reason why.
[53:24] Speaker 1: And it's very dangerous because even I when I was
[53:27] Speaker 1: growing up, when I was a young man, I identified
[53:29] Speaker 1: myself as a film director and when my film directing
[53:32] Speaker 1: world was not going well, my world was horrible. When
[53:36] Speaker 1: my world was going well, it was great, of course.
[53:39] Speaker 1: But I finally was able to pull away from that
[53:41] Speaker 1: programming and go, no, no, no, no, I'm not I'm Alex. Yes,
[53:44] Speaker 1: that's something I do. Yes, And I also could do this,
[53:48] Speaker 1: and I could also do this, So I become I
[53:50] Speaker 1: try to become more well rounded and understand me.
[53:54] Speaker 2: You start to become, oh, this is my version of
[53:57] Speaker 2: being Alex being a film direct versus a separation. And
[54:02] Speaker 2: this is where a lot of women have issues, you know,
[54:05] Speaker 2: where they separate themselves, and this is where they sacrifice
[54:08] Speaker 2: their life for their husband, for their kids, for their kids,
[54:12] Speaker 2: for their career because now there's or versions of them
[54:16] Speaker 2: like oh I'm a wife, now, oh I better play
[54:20] Speaker 2: that way. So this version over here, the real version,
[54:24] Speaker 2: the you know, the life force, you know, just like
[54:28] Speaker 2: it's like, well what am I learning here? Nothing? They're
[54:32] Speaker 2: not learning anything, They're not experiencing anything because you separated
[54:35] Speaker 2: your identities from them. So in this case, you know,
[54:38] Speaker 2: you want to understand that you are of this brilliant
[54:41] Speaker 2: being having an experience of being a woman, being say
[54:46] Speaker 2: a wife.
[54:47] Speaker 1: And we're being a wife in this country, in this time,
[54:49] Speaker 1: and this eximunity, this religion.
[54:52] Speaker 2: And there's no separation or there's no fragmentation. Because in
[54:55] Speaker 2: today's world you see people they're fragmented.
[55:00] Speaker 1: What do you mean by fragmented? Fragmented because they have
[55:02] Speaker 1: too many roles they're playing.
[55:04] Speaker 2: Yes, they have too many versions of themselves, rendering themselves
[55:08] Speaker 2: in different realities. So for example, if you're say the way,
[55:13] Speaker 2: and we'll you use the wife example or a partner example,
[55:17] Speaker 2: what they do is like, oh, which dimension of space
[55:21] Speaker 2: and time is, say Alex a husband, There's a version
[55:29] Speaker 2: out there for you that where you're a husband, and
[55:31] Speaker 2: then you go, oh, I'm over here, but then you
[55:34] Speaker 2: lose your dimension of where you actually are, and then
[55:39] Speaker 2: Alex is a film producer or runs next level, so
[55:42] Speaker 2: oh that version is here. So this version doesn't talk
[55:46] Speaker 2: to this version, and vice versa. So how many versions
[55:49] Speaker 2: do people have? So what we teach is like, wait
[55:53] Speaker 2: a second, let's expand into the real Alex, the life force, Alex,
[55:59] Speaker 2: the soul Alix, expanding into say that experience of being
[56:05] Speaker 2: you know, a man and then being a film producer
[56:10] Speaker 2: or being a father. Does that make sense? So that
[56:14] Speaker 2: way you don't get fractals. You don't get because because
[56:19] Speaker 2: because when you start to fractal yourself, Oh I have
[56:22] Speaker 2: to be a wife or I have and you see
[56:24] Speaker 2: women do that, or I see a lot of people
[56:25] Speaker 2: do that. Oh I'm a CEO. Now I better do X,
[56:29] Speaker 2: Y and Z. It's like putting on costumes. You know
[56:32] Speaker 2: what I mean. You're performing, now I'm living. You're performing.
[56:36] Speaker 2: Oh I got to be a CEO. Oh in this case,
[56:40] Speaker 2: I got to do this, this.
[56:40] Speaker 1: And this, and then then me being a CEO versus
[56:44] Speaker 1: somebody else. Being a CEO is based on programming and
[56:47] Speaker 1: what they believe a CEO should be exactly, So it
[56:50] Speaker 1: could be two very different approaches exactly. So he might
[56:53] Speaker 1: have been raised that the guy could have been had
[56:56] Speaker 1: bosses where like that just horrible to him. Well, yes
[57:00] Speaker 1: he's successful, that that must be what I need to
[57:02] Speaker 1: be exactly.
[57:03] Speaker 2: And then it's like, oh, I'm going to go home.
[57:06] Speaker 2: Oh oh I got to put it on a role
[57:07] Speaker 2: of being a husband. And sometimes you're so and then
[57:11] Speaker 2: it's like, well and then the wife goes, who is that?
[57:15] Speaker 2: And that's how who I'm sleeping with? You know what
[57:17] Speaker 2: I mean? Because it's like people start to see that.
[57:20] Speaker 2: You know, these people are fractaled, They're fractured, and this
[57:23] Speaker 2: is where burnout happens. This is where making money or
[57:27] Speaker 2: becoming successful is like, what the hell are we doing this?
[57:31] Speaker 1: So then let me ask you this. Then if because
[57:33] Speaker 1: I understand everything you're saying and that there are different
[57:35] Speaker 1: roles we play, there's no question you know, I'm a father,
[57:37] Speaker 1: I'm a podcast or I'm a CEO, I'm a filmmaker,
[57:41] Speaker 1: i'm a husband, i'm a son, all of this and
[57:45] Speaker 1: they all have different roles. So we all of us
[57:47] Speaker 1: have those, yes, period. But what I'm what I've found,
[57:52] Speaker 1: at least in my life, is that first and foremost
[57:57] Speaker 1: I've learned in my world, I'm Alex. Yes, Alex, the
[58:02] Speaker 1: like I'm Alex. That's who I am. All of these
[58:06] Speaker 1: are costumes that I put on when I need to,
[58:09] Speaker 1: but I put them on gently. Now where before I
[58:13] Speaker 1: would just exclusively have one and be like, oh, I
[58:16] Speaker 1: can't take this one off. As much. It was hard
[58:18] Speaker 1: to it was hard to shift roles, but now I
[58:22] Speaker 1: shift them on a dime when needed. Like because when
[58:25] Speaker 1: you have kids, you realize that really quickly, you know,
[58:29] Speaker 1: and then when you have a business, and then when
[58:30] Speaker 1: you have family and so your ship. But I shift
[58:33] Speaker 1: a lot easier than I used to before. It was
[58:36] Speaker 1: very I was like, I have this code. I can't
[58:38] Speaker 1: take it off right now. And that's where the problem is.
[58:41] Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense.
[58:42] Speaker 2: That's where the problem is. And so let's accelerate that. Yeah,
[58:45] Speaker 2: if you don't mind, please mind if we do that.
[58:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it.
[58:47] Speaker 2: Let's do it. Okay, So all right, so close your eyes,
[58:50] Speaker 2: take a breath in. And this is a recording, but
[58:53] Speaker 2: the audience will probably feel this as well, because it's
[58:56] Speaker 2: the frequencies that I generate is beyond time and space.
[58:59] Speaker 2: So so just imagine all the different roles that you play. Okay,
[59:03] Speaker 2: your point A, Okay, there's point B, there's point C.
[59:07] Speaker 2: You know a film director, a father, you know, a brother. Whoever,
[59:13] Speaker 2: how many different roles do you see or how many
[59:16] Speaker 2: different points do you see out there?
[59:19] Speaker 1: Major points are minor points, all points? I mean, I mean,
[59:24] Speaker 1: I'll go with the major ones because the minor ones
[59:26] Speaker 1: that get I can't. I can't wrap my head around
[59:28] Speaker 1: the minor ones.
[59:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, but.
[59:31] Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe ten Okay, I'll just I just
[59:34] Speaker 1: pulled that number out, but it's like generally around ten.
[59:37] Speaker 2: And by the way, these visuals are different because they're
[59:40] Speaker 2: they're rendered not from your hallucination or the brain, it's
[59:43] Speaker 2: from your higher self. So that's that's what I'm working on.
[59:46] Speaker 2: If you don't mind breathing again and again, if you're
[59:50] Speaker 2: the audience, just you know, go along with me and
[59:54] Speaker 2: do it. Okay. So ten, So there are ten different points.
[59:59] Speaker 2: So you're eleven. So Alex, notice that you are. Say
[1:00:04] Speaker 2: where you are. Just notice where you are. And then
[1:00:07] Speaker 2: what you do is like, oh, I got to be
[1:00:09] Speaker 2: you know, zero point ten, and then you step out
[1:00:13] Speaker 2: of say your original point, that the optimal moment of
[1:00:18] Speaker 2: space and time, the present moment to render yourself as
[1:00:22] Speaker 2: say personality ten.
[1:00:26] Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor
[1:00:32] Speaker 3: and now back to the show.
[1:00:36] Speaker 2: And then what you do when you're done, like you said,
[1:00:39] Speaker 2: you take off. So basically you go, oh, I have
[1:00:42] Speaker 2: to jump back to say point zero, because that's where
[1:00:47] Speaker 2: my original self is. So here's the problem. Most people,
[1:00:52] Speaker 2: they go into a role and then they forget right
[1:00:56] Speaker 2: just like a parking lot, you know, you go into
[1:00:58] Speaker 2: that major mall, you go shopping and you go where
[1:01:02] Speaker 2: the hell did I park my car? And then you
[1:01:04] Speaker 2: search for hours or decades, go, who the hell am I?
[1:01:11] Speaker 2: Can I see that?
[1:01:12] Speaker 1: Can I say something real quick? We're still in Okay,
[1:01:16] Speaker 1: I gotta say something.
[1:01:17] Speaker 2: Take a breath and all right, so what we teach here?
[1:01:23] Speaker 2: Breathe in again. Okay, this is really cool. If you
[1:01:27] Speaker 2: just do this, and and I'll do this with you.
[1:01:29] Speaker 2: I'll just reprogram me if you don't mind. Is that okay?
[1:01:31] Speaker 1: Please?
[1:01:32] Speaker 2: All right? So and you'll feel the difference like right away.
[1:01:34] Speaker 2: It's it's so cool. All right. So instead of going
[1:01:37] Speaker 2: from point A to point B, let's say, so, imagine
[1:01:40] Speaker 2: that you're a sphere. Okay, imagine you're a sphere. You're
[1:01:46] Speaker 2: inside the sphere. Your possibilities expand to point B. You
[1:01:52] Speaker 2: don't move anywhere. You expand in point B. Look at
[1:01:55] Speaker 2: all the other points that you're touching as you expand,
[1:02:00] Speaker 2: all the possibilities that you're learning from. And then when
[1:02:03] Speaker 2: you're done being a father, a film director, whatever it is,
[1:02:06] Speaker 2: you expand back into Alex. You can track back into Alex.
[1:02:10] Speaker 2: Alex didn't move. Alex becomes more precise in time in space,
[1:02:14] Speaker 2: Alex understands himself more so, that experience of being a father,
[1:02:18] Speaker 2: being a film director. It didn't it didn't take away
[1:02:21] Speaker 2: your life force. It actually enhanced it because now you're
[1:02:24] Speaker 2: more purified on who Alex is. So the soul grows
[1:02:29] Speaker 2: with you. It's not left behind, because that's what most
[1:02:33] Speaker 2: people do. They leave their soul or their spirit, I
[1:02:36] Speaker 2: call it their timeless self behind. So you just one
[1:02:40] Speaker 2: more thing, take a breath in, e just give me
[1:02:45] Speaker 2: a second. I'm just working on the audience as well.
[1:02:49] Speaker 2: What okay, what your grandfather comes in? By the way,
[1:02:57] Speaker 2: he's been around lately. Okay, so it's crazy, how you know,
[1:03:02] Speaker 2: just these sessions work? Anyway? Can we release your grandfather
[1:03:06] Speaker 2: while we're here.
[1:03:07] Speaker 4: Sure, he's a funny guy. He's got he's got like eyes.
[1:03:15] Speaker 4: He's he had beautiful eyes.
[1:03:18] Speaker 2: The beautiful eyes is like you look at him, it's like, oh,
[1:03:21] Speaker 2: you know, such a kind man. Yeah, he's so, he's
[1:03:24] Speaker 2: just he's just telling me all this because so we
[1:03:27] Speaker 2: can confirm that it's him right again, he's got something
[1:03:30] Speaker 2: with his eyes. So okay, so let's help him crossover
[1:03:38] Speaker 2: while while we're here anyway, So let's move him where
[1:03:41] Speaker 2: he needs to be at a higher level. And then
[1:03:44] Speaker 2: let's have him send you, say, a confirmation that we
[1:03:48] Speaker 2: talked he's at a higher level. If that's if that's
[1:03:51] Speaker 2: okay for you. So that way, because because you're more logical,
[1:03:55] Speaker 2: you want, say proof, which is really good. You want
[1:03:57] Speaker 2: to ask, you know, for like proof not in on
[1:04:01] Speaker 2: I don't believe it, but it's like, how did that work?
[1:04:04] Speaker 2: Because it'll give you more abilities if that's okay. Something
[1:04:07] Speaker 2: about a blue something when you're a kid, something about
[1:04:13] Speaker 2: a something blue somebody will give you. I don't like
[1:04:16] Speaker 2: a blue car blue, you know, toy car blue, whatever,
[1:04:20] Speaker 2: something like to that effect. Or you'll find it somewhere.
[1:04:23] Speaker 2: So that's actually from your grandfather going, hey, Alex, I'm
[1:04:27] Speaker 2: in a better place. Yeah, I'm in a better place,
[1:04:32] Speaker 2: you know, just basically confirming what we talked about. Is
[1:04:35] Speaker 2: that okay? So looking so look for or you don't
[1:04:38] Speaker 2: even have to look as soon as like like you'll
[1:04:40] Speaker 2: feel your grandfather's essence there we go. So, so a
[1:04:45] Speaker 2: couple of things that we did. One help your grandfather too.
[1:04:48] Speaker 2: Helped you understand what you inherited from your grandfather, by
[1:04:52] Speaker 2: the way, which is insight, deep insight, and deep kindness.
[1:04:58] Speaker 2: By the way. Uh, and then also helping you expand
[1:05:01] Speaker 2: into your possibilities rather than say separating yourself. There we go.
[1:05:08] Speaker 2: How's that all right?
[1:05:12] Speaker 1: Open eyes?
[1:05:13] Speaker 2: Yep, you can open your eyes. How are you feeling?
[1:05:16] Speaker 2: Feel good?
[1:05:16] Speaker 1: I feel good. What's interesting is when I went when
[1:05:21] Speaker 1: I closed my eyes, this is what I saw. Yeah,
[1:05:25] Speaker 1: I saw myself in kind of like the lead position,
[1:05:29] Speaker 1: and then I saw multiple versions of me, almost in
[1:05:35] Speaker 1: an ethereal way. Is what I saw. It started off
[1:05:40] Speaker 1: its scenes, yes, and then it turned into individuals, so
[1:05:43] Speaker 1: like me wearing a different suit. You exactly, That's what
[1:05:46] Speaker 1: I saw in my mind, and then I can see.
[1:05:50] Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I can jump in here, or I
[1:05:52] Speaker 1: can jump in there, and I can jump It was very,
[1:05:54] Speaker 1: very effortless. When you told me to expand, I pulled back,
[1:05:59] Speaker 1: and then I saw thousands points that either have been
[1:06:05] Speaker 1: or will be yes that I can I can jump
[1:06:08] Speaker 1: in and out of. From my experience. Then, when I
[1:06:13] Speaker 1: wanted to open my eyes and ask you a question,
[1:06:15] Speaker 1: the thing that popped into my head is like there
[1:06:18] Speaker 1: are dormant roles that you forget about that wake up
[1:06:26] Speaker 1: every once in a while.
[1:06:27] Speaker 2: I love it.
[1:06:27] Speaker 1: So is it so? At one point. Let's say you
[1:06:31] Speaker 1: played the piano, you played the guitar when you were
[1:06:33] Speaker 1: a kid, and you loved it, but you put it
[1:06:35] Speaker 1: away because your parents said, Okay, you can't make it
[1:06:37] Speaker 1: living as a guitar player, and you haven't touched it
[1:06:39] Speaker 1: for twenty years. But all of a sudden, something wakes
[1:06:42] Speaker 1: up in you and goes, you got to pick up
[1:06:43] Speaker 1: the guitar again. Yeah, And that's and like and that
[1:06:46] Speaker 1: role steps in and goes, Okay, I'm here, let's go
[1:06:49] Speaker 1: so for me. Yes, And you know this gets a
[1:06:53] Speaker 1: little personal, but I don't mind. I don't mind sharing this.
[1:06:56] Speaker 1: You know, coming from the filmmaking world, I've never let
[1:06:59] Speaker 1: go of it on d but it definitely wasn't It's
[1:07:04] Speaker 1: not been as predominant in my life as Next Level
[1:07:08] Speaker 1: Soul has. Now there are aspects of it that will
[1:07:10] Speaker 1: crossover and productions and stuff like that. But the kid
[1:07:16] Speaker 1: in the video store who fell in love with movies,
[1:07:20] Speaker 1: who fell in love with storytelling, I'm gonna get teared.
[1:07:23] Speaker 1: I'm gonna get teared up here. Stop at Masati, you're
[1:07:27] Speaker 1: making me here. That kid has started to reawaken lately, exactly.
[1:07:33] Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not kidding you like literally reawaken lately,
[1:07:36] Speaker 1: like to the point where I'm like, oh, I need
[1:07:38] Speaker 1: I need to connect with him again. Yes, he needs
[1:07:42] Speaker 1: to come back in to not only not to because
[1:07:45] Speaker 1: I'm going to go back into Hollywood or anything like that,
[1:07:48] Speaker 1: but what he was, that energy needs to be brought
[1:07:52] Speaker 1: into what I'm.
[1:07:53] Speaker 2: Doing now exactly.
[1:07:54] Speaker 1: And now I need to put on that suit and
[1:07:57] Speaker 1: this suit to do what I'm going to doing moving forward.
[1:08:02] Speaker 1: And that's very interesting, and I got excited when I
[1:08:04] Speaker 1: went in, and so I opened my eyes. I was like, wait,
[1:08:07] Speaker 1: I gotta tell them this. But the dormant the dormant ones,
[1:08:12] Speaker 1: and sometimes and correct me if I'm wrong. There's dormant
[1:08:15] Speaker 1: things that happen that are within this life, but there's
[1:08:19] Speaker 1: dormant ones that happen from other lives that show up
[1:08:23] Speaker 1: all of a sudden. You're like, I didn't know I
[1:08:25] Speaker 1: could do that. I didn't know I could write a book.
[1:08:27] Speaker 1: I didn't know I can paint. I didn't know I
[1:08:30] Speaker 1: could start a business. You're tapping into things from your
[1:08:34] Speaker 1: other lifetimes as well in this this world. It's a
[1:08:39] Speaker 1: pretty pretty fascinating something cool. It's pretty So what do
[1:08:44] Speaker 1: you say about everything? I just experienced.
[1:08:45] Speaker 2: That is perfect, That is perfct. That's what I wanted
[1:08:47] Speaker 2: to need to experience because that's what you do see.
[1:08:49] Speaker 2: Because when you're just focused on one thing, like again
[1:08:53] Speaker 2: being a father, that's the only thing that you start
[1:08:56] Speaker 2: to render. But if you expand, just imagine instead of
[1:08:59] Speaker 2: going from point one, you know, point A to point B.
[1:09:02] Speaker 2: Now you've got this whole sphere. So you went to
[1:09:06] Speaker 2: point B, you expanded to point B. But look at
[1:09:08] Speaker 2: all the other possibilities that become alive for you. Previous lifetimes,
[1:09:14] Speaker 2: your parents' lifetime. That's why your grandfather came in. You've
[1:09:17] Speaker 2: got a lot of your grandparents. Your grandfather say, oh,
[1:09:22] Speaker 2: patterningh from what I'm seeing. So that's why his lifetime
[1:09:25] Speaker 2: came through. And so you learn from his lifetime so
[1:09:29] Speaker 2: you don't make the same mistakes as he did, you know,
[1:09:31] Speaker 2: and you take the benefits of what he learned.
[1:09:34] Speaker 1: And it's funny too, because I had a session the
[1:09:36] Speaker 1: other day on the show. I think, I don't know
[1:09:38] Speaker 1: if it's been really share or not, but with a medium,
[1:09:41] Speaker 1: and he came in again. He's been coming in lately
[1:09:44] Speaker 1: a lot, Okay, And you know, I don't go looking
[1:09:46] Speaker 1: for them. But when there's a medium here and it's
[1:09:49] Speaker 1: like there's somebody who's just yelling at me, I need
[1:09:51] Speaker 1: to talk to he came in and he actually was
[1:09:55] Speaker 1: learning from me from the other side because he saw
[1:10:00] Speaker 1: that I had transcended a mistake that he made and
[1:10:03] Speaker 1: his path where he never and I'll share it is
[1:10:08] Speaker 1: like he worked every day since he was seven, from
[1:10:13] Speaker 1: cutting sugar cane in Cuba in the fields with a
[1:10:18] Speaker 1: third grade education and then just non stop grind, non
[1:10:23] Speaker 1: stop grind. In two like two weeks before he died,
[1:10:26] Speaker 1: he was still hustling. He was not because he was
[1:10:29] Speaker 1: he needed money per se. It was just that was
[1:10:31] Speaker 1: the programming. He had no idea how to break from
[1:10:35] Speaker 1: that ever ever, like that was it. He went on
[1:10:38] Speaker 1: two vacations in his entire life and hated them. He
[1:10:41] Speaker 1: wanted to get back to work.
[1:10:42] Speaker 2: Because it could just couldn't identity.
[1:10:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, it was his identity. He could not break free
[1:10:47] Speaker 1: from being a businessman and an entrepreneur and a grinder. Well,
[1:10:51] Speaker 1: I brought that into my life where I was a
[1:10:53] Speaker 1: grinder for a long time until and I was warned
[1:10:58] Speaker 1: about it, like you're gonna burn out, like and I'm like,
[1:11:00] Speaker 1: don't have to and that was that was the energy
[1:11:03] Speaker 1: I learned from him because he was a very predominant
[1:11:05] Speaker 1: male figure in my life, one of the few, because
[1:11:08] Speaker 1: I was surrounded by women constantly, and still am this
[1:11:12] Speaker 1: is the most estosterone I've seen in a minute. So
[1:11:13] Speaker 1: I appreciate it, uh, other than watching the World Cup,
[1:11:17] Speaker 1: I appreciate it. But I finally figured out that I'm like,
[1:11:22] Speaker 1: oh no, I don't have to do this, not the
[1:11:25] Speaker 1: way he did it. And I transcended it. And she
[1:11:29] Speaker 1: told me when he was in the room with like
[1:11:31] Speaker 1: in the set, in in the in the play, She's like,
[1:11:33] Speaker 1: I see tears coming down his eyes because he's so
[1:11:36] Speaker 1: happy that that you're not making the same mistakes he
[1:11:38] Speaker 1: is and he's learning from you. Yes, does that makes sense?
[1:11:42] Speaker 2: It totally does. So you probably won't see him hanging
[1:11:46] Speaker 2: around anymore because he doesn't need to be other like
[1:11:52] Speaker 2: he'll come whenever he mediums or whatever. They won't see
[1:11:55] Speaker 2: him because he's in a higher space. Again, he doesn't
[1:12:00] Speaker 2: need to be around you anymore because he's learned his say,
[1:12:03] Speaker 2: life lesson, so to speak. You've learned your You didn't
[1:12:07] Speaker 2: learn it at a mental level, like what happened. There
[1:12:09] Speaker 2: was more of a say programming level, a genetic level
[1:12:13] Speaker 2: code that say, we switched in a very pretty quick
[1:12:18] Speaker 2: So you're not going to be like hustling like him,
[1:12:22] Speaker 2: although you're still going to be working hard. But this
[1:12:25] Speaker 2: is about it's it's a different thing because I know
[1:12:29] Speaker 2: the difference. It's a very different thing because you're not losing,
[1:12:32] Speaker 2: you're not sacrificing again your health, life force, health, everything.
[1:12:37] Speaker 2: It's like, I'm working because I'm understanding myself. And this
[1:12:41] Speaker 2: is where the brilliance of that young kid loving videos
[1:12:44] Speaker 2: comes in and you'll be that kid doing video editing
[1:12:50] Speaker 2: or whatever that you do.
[1:12:51] Speaker 1: Yeah. That that that that version of me that Yeah,
[1:12:55] Speaker 1: I remember him very very well and it's probably one
[1:12:58] Speaker 1: of the happiest times in my life.
[1:13:00] Speaker 2: And that's where that version stopped growing.
[1:13:04] Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah he he no, he played. He played
[1:13:08] Speaker 1: in the film business. He was very excited to watch.
[1:13:10] Speaker 1: But it was different. It's very different.
[1:13:13] Speaker 2: But most people it's like, you know, the guitar thing
[1:13:16] Speaker 2: or whatever, that version of you say stopped I understand
[1:13:19] Speaker 2: what you mean. Yeah, So now it's like regrowing that
[1:13:22] Speaker 2: version of you is going to grow with you now.
[1:13:25] Speaker 2: So although you're not going to play the guitar, it'll
[1:13:27] Speaker 2: feel like that part of you is still fulfilled.
[1:13:32] Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. When you have
[1:13:33] Speaker 1: a fully realized person, human being that's in this incarnation
[1:13:42] Speaker 1: on Earth, when they're fully realized, they're able to tap
[1:13:47] Speaker 1: into all of their versions throughout not only this lifetime,
[1:13:54] Speaker 1: but that one in a way that is almost insane,
[1:14:00] Speaker 1: that makes sense totally, you know, like it's like, you know,
[1:14:03] Speaker 1: like I'm assuming Christ, if we'll use him as an example,
[1:14:06] Speaker 1: was able to not only tap into all the versions
[1:14:10] Speaker 1: that he was in this lifetime, but all his other
[1:14:12] Speaker 1: lifetimes and then pull from that. So it's almost a version.
[1:14:15] Speaker 1: And I don't know if you know about quantum jumping?
[1:14:17] Speaker 1: Is that Have you heard that term? Oh?
[1:14:19] Speaker 2: Yeah, I can do that for people.
[1:14:21] Speaker 1: So quantum jumping. Can you explain to people what quantum
[1:14:24] Speaker 1: jumping is?
[1:14:26] Speaker 2: Well, my version of quantum jumping again might be a
[1:14:29] Speaker 2: little different.
[1:14:30] Speaker 1: You're very different, sir.
[1:14:31] Speaker 2: Let's just gets So my version of quantum jumping is like,
[1:14:37] Speaker 2: there's a dimension of time and space. So most people change.
[1:14:41] Speaker 2: They don't change their environment, they change their mental attitude
[1:14:44] Speaker 2: towards their environment. So in this dimension, of time and space.
[1:14:48] Speaker 2: For example, you are you're poor, you don't have enough money.
[1:14:53] Speaker 2: No matter how much money you make, you'll always feel say, incomplete,
[1:14:58] Speaker 2: correct colete. Yeah, okay, So jumping to me is like,
[1:15:01] Speaker 2: wait a second, let's help you find the version of
[1:15:04] Speaker 2: you that actually is wealthy and properly wealthy, and that's
[1:15:09] Speaker 2: over here. So we quantum jump from this dimension. It's
[1:15:12] Speaker 2: just literally a coordinate kind of like Google maps. You know,
[1:15:16] Speaker 2: It's like, this is where you are, this is what
[1:15:18] Speaker 2: you're running at. You can't so this this part of you,
[1:15:23] Speaker 2: this environment dictates that you always feel safe, poor, incomplete,
[1:15:27] Speaker 2: tattered or shattered whatever. This version of you here is
[1:15:31] Speaker 2: a better version. So let's figure out the coordinates and
[1:15:34] Speaker 2: then quantum jump you. And this is where people have
[1:15:38] Speaker 2: I'm not claiming I cure anybody, but this is where
[1:15:40] Speaker 2: people have cured themselves of like cancers, like stage four tumors,
[1:15:45] Speaker 2: whatever like disappear because in this version doesn't exist, it
[1:15:49] Speaker 2: doesn't exist. So that's quantum jumping to me.
[1:15:53] Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
[1:16:00] Speaker 3: Now back to the show.
[1:16:03] Speaker 2: Now, there's different quantum jumpings where you can go into
[1:16:05] Speaker 2: like previous lifetimes or or somebody else's lifetime.
[1:16:09] Speaker 1: Or parallel lifetimes or parallel lifetimes.
[1:16:12] Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can.
[1:16:15] Speaker 1: Learn skills bring skills back.
[1:16:17] Speaker 2: Yes, I'm in the Buddhist Buddhist state level courses that
[1:16:22] Speaker 2: I teach, which is really difficult for people because it's
[1:16:26] Speaker 2: very intense. We you can go back into say a
[1:16:30] Speaker 2: previous lifetime or say go back into a master that
[1:16:33] Speaker 2: you resonate with and like literally start to download where
[1:16:37] Speaker 2: they what they learned. Or if you are say you're
[1:16:45] Speaker 2: you're a great musician, you want to play the guitar,
[1:16:47] Speaker 2: and you want to play like Jimmy Hendrix for example, Okay,
[1:16:51] Speaker 2: and then you go, okay, well where did Jimmy Hendricks
[1:16:56] Speaker 2: what say quantum dimension did he pull that from? Did
[1:16:59] Speaker 2: he pull that from? Let's find that out and then
[1:17:02] Speaker 2: let's puk you onto that and then you'll play your
[1:17:06] Speaker 2: version or his talent without Jimmy Hendrix in the way.
[1:17:11] Speaker 1: She was fascinating because I never thought about this, But like,
[1:17:14] Speaker 1: you know, when we have savants come into this, you know,
[1:17:17] Speaker 1: we'll call Mozart a savan, right, Yeah. They you know,
[1:17:23] Speaker 1: they have the ability to play music at a level
[1:17:25] Speaker 1: that it's inconceivable to us. But the point is that
[1:17:31] Speaker 1: when Mozart came in, the music that he was playing
[1:17:35] Speaker 1: hadn't been around, And correct me if I'm wrong, Like
[1:17:38] Speaker 1: that kind of classical music wasn't was done during the Renaissance,
[1:17:43] Speaker 1: so prior to the Renaissance that didn't exist, and a
[1:17:46] Speaker 1: lot of the instruments might have not existed all that.
[1:17:49] Speaker 1: So how did he come in? Where did that talent
[1:17:53] Speaker 1: come from? Because it's not like right now, like let's
[1:17:56] Speaker 1: say I want to be like even being a master storyteller. Yes,
[1:18:02] Speaker 1: say right, So let's say I was Charles Dickens in
[1:18:05] Speaker 1: the last Yeah, I'm just I wasn't. But let's just
[1:18:07] Speaker 1: say I was Charles Dickens. Well, he's obviously one of
[1:18:11] Speaker 1: the greatest storytellers of all time. And then that that
[1:18:15] Speaker 1: version of me comes in as like I want to
[1:18:16] Speaker 1: be a screenwriter in the nineteen twenties when Hollywood was
[1:18:20] Speaker 1: just starting, and then I do a lifetime there. Then
[1:18:22] Speaker 1: I come back in the eighties and I'm like, I
[1:18:24] Speaker 1: want to I want to be a film director. But
[1:18:26] Speaker 1: that there's a progression of that soul's grabbing those those
[1:18:30] Speaker 1: talents and bringing them along. But someone like Mozart there
[1:18:33] Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of time to bring that stuff in.
[1:18:36] Speaker 1: So the question is where did he tap into or
[1:18:39] Speaker 1: where did that talent or that information or that ability
[1:18:43] Speaker 1: come from. Is it parallel lives? Is it other people's lifetimes?
[1:18:47] Speaker 1: Is it other lifetimes that we can't even comprehend, maybe
[1:18:51] Speaker 1: before recorded history? I don't know. I'm just asking, I'm asking, really, wow, those.
[1:18:55] Speaker 2: Are really interesting. That's really great questions. So that kind
[1:18:59] Speaker 2: of into like Nikola Tesla, yeah exactly, whereas like where
[1:19:03] Speaker 2: did he get those inventions? Like one hundred years or
[1:19:07] Speaker 2: da Vinci?
[1:19:08] Speaker 1: Yeah, he was. He was talking about stuff that like
[1:19:10] Speaker 1: no one had even thought about exactly, like where did
[1:19:12] Speaker 1: it come from?
[1:19:13] Speaker 2: So people like that, I don't know how they holne
[1:19:16] Speaker 2: their abilities or how they're born with it, you know,
[1:19:19] Speaker 2: or where they get it or where they get it,
[1:19:21] Speaker 2: But basically, they like Nikola studied him a lot, he
[1:19:26] Speaker 2: basically goes into an altered state, an altered dimension he did,
[1:19:29] Speaker 2: where that invention exists already because it's already existing. If
[1:19:35] Speaker 2: if it if it doesn't exist in the possibilities, you
[1:19:38] Speaker 2: can't think about it here, you can't even create it here.
[1:19:41] Speaker 1: And you also have to be at a consciousness level
[1:19:43] Speaker 1: to even be able to bring it into Humanity also
[1:19:45] Speaker 1: has to be at a consciousness level to bring in something.
[1:19:47] Speaker 2: Like that exactly. So Nikola, he goes out there, he
[1:19:51] Speaker 2: is conscious of, say, the reality that he is, you know,
[1:19:56] Speaker 2: and then what happens is that, oh, now he has enough,
[1:20:00] Speaker 2: say consciousness to bring back as like, oh, so how
[1:20:03] Speaker 2: do I create that here? Most people can't make that jump.
[1:20:07] Speaker 1: But see the.
[1:20:07] Speaker 2: Problem with like Nikola Tesla and Beethoven and all those
[1:20:11] Speaker 2: great people is like every time they access that realm
[1:20:14] Speaker 2: they come back, they're off by just a bit in
[1:20:19] Speaker 2: dimensions of space and time.
[1:20:21] Speaker 1: So the.
[1:20:24] Speaker 2: Present moment has a coordinate. So every time Nikola Tesla
[1:20:28] Speaker 2: went out, he came back and he was just a
[1:20:30] Speaker 2: little off and a little off and a little off.
[1:20:33] Speaker 2: So over the years he became he had dementia, he
[1:20:36] Speaker 2: had distortions, he couldn't say render, He forgot literally where
[1:20:41] Speaker 2: he parked his body every time. So every time he
[1:20:45] Speaker 2: was a little off and a little off, and one
[1:20:47] Speaker 2: inch turns into a mile, and one inch turns into
[1:20:50] Speaker 2: a mile. And this is where all those brilliant savants.
[1:20:54] Speaker 2: How he don't do well here physically because of that
[1:20:58] Speaker 2: say what some of.
[1:21:00] Speaker 1: It's someone contemporary like Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs, they're not
[1:21:06] Speaker 1: easy human beings to be around. No, none of them are,
[1:21:10] Speaker 1: because they're just working on a different they work at.
[1:21:13] Speaker 2: A different field. They're very brilliant. They they don't exist
[1:21:17] Speaker 2: in this realm their consciousness. They're So if you if
[1:21:22] Speaker 2: you're an energy source, Okay, so a hundred most people,
[1:21:26] Speaker 2: you're not one hundred percent, but say one hundred percent
[1:21:29] Speaker 2: of you is like physically bound, and that's what most
[1:21:32] Speaker 2: people live with. If you're like say enlightened, more awakened,
[1:21:36] Speaker 2: you start to understand that there's a gradient. You're just
[1:21:40] Speaker 2: not focusing. You're up here as well, so you render
[1:21:43] Speaker 2: your energy from here down, which is more efficient versus
[1:21:47] Speaker 2: from down here up. Okay, So people like Elon Musk,
[1:21:52] Speaker 2: for example, he has like ten ten different say, dimensions
[1:21:58] Speaker 2: that he can access and you can see him work.
[1:22:02] Speaker 2: So what he does is like he leaves Elon here,
[1:22:07] Speaker 2: he connects over there and then he brings back an idea.
[1:22:12] Speaker 2: But every time he does that, he doesn't know who
[1:22:15] Speaker 2: Elon is. And then this is where he needs kids
[1:22:19] Speaker 2: or new beings so to speak. That's why he's got
[1:22:23] Speaker 2: fourteen kids literally, because it's like or a new girlfriend
[1:22:27] Speaker 2: every time because they're fresh and anything fresh just like
[1:22:30] Speaker 2: forces them in to be in his body and go, oh,
[1:22:34] Speaker 2: this is what it feels like. Interesting.
[1:22:35] Speaker 1: So it's almost kind of like you're astra projecting yourself.
[1:22:38] Speaker 1: I'm just using this totally, and you forget where you come,
[1:22:42] Speaker 1: where'd I leave? Where'd I leave my body? Yeah, we're
[1:22:44] Speaker 1: back in the all.
[1:22:45] Speaker 2: Exactly, We're back in the mall, and your body just
[1:22:48] Speaker 2: goes and your body starts to become a roboty.
[1:22:51] Speaker 1: So then but then when you when you speak of masters,
[1:22:55] Speaker 1: like ascended masters who were walking masters, they understand where
[1:22:59] Speaker 1: the body is at all times.
[1:23:00] Speaker 2: They expanded just like we did.
[1:23:03] Speaker 1: We expanded, but never losing sight of where I park.
[1:23:06] Speaker 2: We're never losing sight. And then when they contract, they
[1:23:09] Speaker 2: become more pure vessels. Because when you contract, just like
[1:23:14] Speaker 2: a sponge with dirty water, you know, you dip that
[1:23:17] Speaker 2: sponge into pure water, you know, and you squeeze it
[1:23:20] Speaker 2: out in all the dirt. So when you contract, you
[1:23:22] Speaker 2: eliminate the distortions that you shouldn't have in the first place. Interesting. Ye,
[1:23:28] Speaker 2: it's a beautiful expansion. And in this case, you can
[1:23:32] Speaker 2: live lifetimes worth of experiences in a moment because you're
[1:23:39] Speaker 2: experiencing all moments of self as a sphere, not just
[1:23:44] Speaker 2: one point in time. So you're living all those lifetimes
[1:23:48] Speaker 2: like you just did.
[1:23:49] Speaker 1: Right. So then that's so strange because you didn't tell
[1:23:52] Speaker 1: me any of that, and I just told you what
[1:23:54] Speaker 1: I saw. Yes, when I expand, I'm like, oh, I
[1:23:56] Speaker 1: saw thousands and thousands of points. I didn't know what
[1:23:59] Speaker 1: I was seeing, but I was seeing it.
[1:24:00] Speaker 2: That's the program, that's what I was helping you with.
[1:24:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw it. I was like, oh, I see
[1:24:05] Speaker 1: thousands of versions of myself that I can pop in
[1:24:07] Speaker 1: and out of, and I don't know if they're at
[1:24:09] Speaker 1: that time when I was doing I'm like, I don't
[1:24:10] Speaker 1: know if that's all in this lifetime. But then something
[1:24:13] Speaker 1: in me said no, no, no, no, that's all possibilities, all possibility
[1:24:16] Speaker 1: versions of it. But so there was like thousands of
[1:24:18] Speaker 1: mes yes, stressed in different suits, let's say, or different
[1:24:21] Speaker 1: outfits as a representation of those things.
[1:24:23] Speaker 2: And those are possibilities. They're not actual living. There's not
[1:24:28] Speaker 2: another version of you out there experiencing something. Those are
[1:24:31] Speaker 2: the possibilities that could be you and that you haven't experienced,
[1:24:36] Speaker 2: and their previous lifetimes are possibilities. Plus, if you expand
[1:24:42] Speaker 2: far enough, it includes not just your lifetime, but includes
[1:24:47] Speaker 2: human humans that are humanity because we're all some level,
[1:24:53] Speaker 2: we're all connected.
[1:24:54] Speaker 1: We're all connected, and that's where true.
[1:24:55] Speaker 2: Connection when we go, yeah, we're all one, but you
[1:24:58] Speaker 2: have to be at a certain level to be all one.
[1:25:01] Speaker 2: Most people go, oh, we're all one, but no, you're not.
[1:25:05] Speaker 2: You're very you're very separated.
[1:25:06] Speaker 1: You're talking about it, Yeah, you don't understand.
[1:25:08] Speaker 2: It exactly kind of you have to elevate yourself.
[1:25:10] Speaker 1: So these savants that we're talking about, like the Elons
[1:25:14] Speaker 1: and the Stevens and the Teslas, these guys, these guys
[1:25:18] Speaker 1: don't expand they actually take off, go somewhere else, come back,
[1:25:24] Speaker 1: and then come back. It's a one way trip as
[1:25:26] Speaker 1: opposed to expanding and going. No, no, no, Now I
[1:25:28] Speaker 1: see all the roads, all the trains where they're going.
[1:25:32] Speaker 1: I can jump on that train, go, but I'm still
[1:25:34] Speaker 1: watching everything. Go, do what I need to do to
[1:25:36] Speaker 1: come back to the station, and then just walk right
[1:25:39] Speaker 1: back to where I was because I knew where I
[1:25:41] Speaker 1: parked exactly.
[1:25:42] Speaker 2: So Elon, like I said he has twelve. When he
[1:25:45] Speaker 2: was a young kid, I think somebody died or something
[1:25:47] Speaker 2: happened to him.
[1:25:48] Speaker 1: Is he in the spectrum? He has to be in
[1:25:49] Speaker 1: the spectrum, I mean a version of it, a version.
[1:25:52] Speaker 2: He's probably on the very intelligent.
[1:25:55] Speaker 1: Well no, no, no, no, no question. But there's something I mean,
[1:25:58] Speaker 1: you could just there's totally something off. There's something not
[1:26:01] Speaker 1: the same.
[1:26:01] Speaker 2: You have to be because in order to disconnect the
[1:26:05] Speaker 2: way he does, you'd have to be well unless you
[1:26:08] Speaker 2: do it properly.
[1:26:08] Speaker 1: So like there's you know, working in the film industry
[1:26:11] Speaker 1: for so long, I've met, I've interviewed and novels, have
[1:26:14] Speaker 1: worked with somemants like people who are very very difficult
[1:26:18] Speaker 1: to work with, but they're legendary. Yeah and I and
[1:26:22] Speaker 1: when you talk to them, you just go, oh, there's something.
[1:26:26] Speaker 1: There's just something oft in this. You know, they're not
[1:26:28] Speaker 1: that they're being negative or positive.
[1:26:30] Speaker 2: It's just off.
[1:26:32] Speaker 1: Like there's it's like the programming is it's the cat
[1:26:36] Speaker 1: and the matrix.
[1:26:37] Speaker 2: It's well, what you're sensing is their body is sending
[1:26:41] Speaker 2: out a signal and then you're actually sensing but you
[1:26:45] Speaker 2: can't pick it up. I mean I can, but most people.
[1:26:48] Speaker 2: You know, well, if you're sensitive, you can pick it up,
[1:26:51] Speaker 2: but you actually say where they're creating themselves here physically,
[1:26:55] Speaker 2: and then you're also sensing where they are in space
[1:26:59] Speaker 2: and time. So they're sending out two signals.
[1:27:02] Speaker 1: And that's and that's what I'm picking up.
[1:27:03] Speaker 2: And that's what you're picking is like, there's why they
[1:27:05] Speaker 2: are so off.
[1:27:06] Speaker 1: There's something not right here. So that's interesting. So would
[1:27:10] Speaker 1: that make would that be something that when you meet somebody,
[1:27:13] Speaker 1: so look, there's a This could be multiple different ways.
[1:27:15] Speaker 1: So like I've met people who I go off and like, man,
[1:27:19] Speaker 1: there is something off, and especially in this world where
[1:27:21] Speaker 1: I'm interviewing, Yeah, very interesting human beings. You know, a
[1:27:25] Speaker 1: lot of times when people submit themselves, I'll look. I
[1:27:28] Speaker 1: always tell my my wife, who's the the gatekeeper, Yes,
[1:27:34] Speaker 1: I go. She's like, I think this is an interesting person,
[1:27:36] Speaker 1: and I'll go, I need to see a video. Yeah,
[1:27:38] Speaker 1: it's all I'm like, I need to see them speaking,
[1:27:40] Speaker 1: give me ten seconds. Yes, I always I didn't know
[1:27:43] Speaker 1: why I was doing it.
[1:27:44] Speaker 2: Oh that's why.
[1:27:44] Speaker 1: Because I could see you on the video. I can
[1:27:47] Speaker 1: sense it.
[1:27:47] Speaker 2: You you not only you see I mean your abilities.
[1:27:52] Speaker 2: You see deeper than say the physical representation. So like,
[1:27:57] Speaker 2: for example, what I see in people, you're like a
[1:28:01] Speaker 2: radio tower and you're just broadcasting everything about you, your
[1:28:05] Speaker 2: life history and so on, and I see it at
[1:28:07] Speaker 2: a visual level.
[1:28:08] Speaker 1: That's what you do.
[1:28:09] Speaker 2: That's what I do. So that's very different than being
[1:28:11] Speaker 2: psychic orlish channeler or anything like that. I'm just seeing
[1:28:16] Speaker 2: the vibes, you know, the frequencies that you're sending out.
[1:28:19] Speaker 2: So you have a little bit a bit of that
[1:28:23] Speaker 2: where you see it's like, oh, where are they sending
[1:28:26] Speaker 2: their signal from? And that's where you see when they're
[1:28:31] Speaker 2: So if somebody had a multiple personnel like three four personalities, yeah, yeah,
[1:28:37] Speaker 2: there was somebody that you saw that had like you
[1:28:40] Speaker 2: probably didn't explain it this way, but it's like, why
[1:28:43] Speaker 2: do they feel like there's four versions of them?
[1:28:45] Speaker 1: Or something like that A guest or something like that.
[1:28:48] Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess or something and recently I'm just seeing
[1:28:51] Speaker 2: something or maybe it'll show up for you. Do you
[1:28:54] Speaker 2: want that ability? No? Do you want that ability to go, oh,
[1:28:58] Speaker 2: how many versions which dementia are they creating themselves in?
[1:29:01] Speaker 2: Or how many dimensions are they creating? You have that ability,
[1:29:04] Speaker 2: I can just yeah, hone it for you.
[1:29:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because it's already there.
[1:29:09] Speaker 2: It's already there.
[1:29:10] Speaker 1: And I and I just I just I explained it
[1:29:13] Speaker 1: as like I needed to gut instinct and it's an
[1:29:16] Speaker 1: energy thing. But and people people always ask me like, oh,
[1:29:20] Speaker 1: how many followers do I need to be on your show?
[1:29:21] Speaker 1: I'm like, are you kidding me? Like, that's not what
[1:29:23] Speaker 1: we do, Like it's if it's about well, that's what
[1:29:26] Speaker 1: the work is. So I go, let me see ten seconds,
[1:29:28] Speaker 1: I literally ten seconds in and I'll watch the video
[1:29:31] Speaker 1: and I'll go, I like their vibe, it's just it
[1:29:34] Speaker 1: or they cangru it, there's something like they're authentic. I
[1:29:38] Speaker 1: feel them. Is it one hundred percent? Am I batting
[1:29:40] Speaker 1: a thousand? No? But I've gotten better over the years
[1:29:44] Speaker 1: because I've just honed it a bit more. But that's
[1:29:46] Speaker 1: something I've always felt. And when I meet because I
[1:29:49] Speaker 1: meet so many people and I speak to so many
[1:29:50] Speaker 1: different human beings, it's something that when I meet them,
[1:29:54] Speaker 1: I'll go and.
[1:29:55] Speaker 2: There's people who have fantastic abilities, but then they're like
[1:29:59] Speaker 2: way off and they can't control their own lives.
[1:30:03] Speaker 1: Oh, I've met many humans. I worked in Hollywood, so
[1:30:05] Speaker 1: I've met many human beings.
[1:30:06] Speaker 2: And hm, so you know, and then they're teaching people's work.
[1:30:11] Speaker 2: Oh no, and that's that's that's the scared stuff what
[1:30:14] Speaker 2: you filter out.
[1:30:17] Speaker 1: There's there's people that want to come on the show.
[1:30:19] Speaker 1: I've said absolutely no, and they're huge and I said no.
[1:30:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, because you can see literally it's like they're here.
[1:30:25] Speaker 1: There's something going on, there's some place over hey, and
[1:30:28] Speaker 1: you want to hear something funny. When I say something's
[1:30:29] Speaker 1: going on, and then like a year later, they're like, oh,
[1:30:33] Speaker 1: they've just been on the Epstein Files or something like that.
[1:30:35] Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, that's what I felt.
[1:30:38] Speaker 2: I felt something was off.
[1:30:40] Speaker 1: It's interesting. But yes, I would love if you can
[1:30:43] Speaker 1: open that up in me.
[1:30:44] Speaker 2: And I would love it. I can do that.
[1:30:46] Speaker 1: Now, let's do it. Let's do it.
[1:30:47] Speaker 2: I mean we're doing in a bun audience.
[1:30:48] Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll be right back after a word from our
[1:30:52] Speaker 3: sponsor and now back to the show.
[1:31:00] Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, So for you, you need to be centered yourself.
[1:31:04] Speaker 2: Sometimes you get pulled into other people's vibes, so to speak.
[1:31:09] Speaker 2: So let's center that for you. If that's okay, take
[1:31:12] Speaker 2: a breath in, just notice your stern and bone, the
[1:31:17] Speaker 2: bone that connects you know, your ribs together. And again,
[1:31:20] Speaker 2: if are you going to be is this just private
[1:31:25] Speaker 2: or are you going to give this to your audience
[1:31:26] Speaker 2: as well?
[1:31:27] Speaker 1: What do you mean is the audience going to see this?
[1:31:30] Speaker 2: Yeah?
[1:31:30] Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll leave it in more unlikely okay, So yeah,
[1:31:34] Speaker 1: so unless it's.
[1:31:34] Speaker 2: Something crazy, you know, I'll help the audience as well. Yes,
[1:31:38] Speaker 2: So that's okay. So anybody who wants to say sense, well,
[1:31:43] Speaker 2: Alex is sensing or it is like are they rendering themselves?
[1:31:48] Speaker 2: Say congruently basically? Okay, so just give me a second. Okay,
[1:31:57] Speaker 2: all right, so for you, because I have to separate
[1:31:59] Speaker 2: you and the audience because they're they're not here. All right,
[1:32:04] Speaker 2: there we go. All right. So so notice the spot
[1:32:07] Speaker 2: the stern and bone, and notice just a point in
[1:32:10] Speaker 2: that surning bone. So whenever you're seeing somebody, pay attention
[1:32:14] Speaker 2: to that point because I'll help you program it. It's
[1:32:17] Speaker 2: like a button for you now, okay, And again the
[1:32:20] Speaker 2: audience can do this as well. So whenever you touch
[1:32:25] Speaker 2: that point or acknowledge that point, basically, it'll center you
[1:32:30] Speaker 2: to where you should be in present moment in time.
[1:32:34] Speaker 2: So if you're feeling off a bit, and again it
[1:32:37] Speaker 2: goes beyond then looking at others. But if you're feeling
[1:32:41] Speaker 2: off a bit, just notice that point and it'll literally
[1:32:44] Speaker 2: like pull you back in. If you're feeling like depressed
[1:32:46] Speaker 2: or a little you know, pull away from your reality,
[1:32:50] Speaker 2: just focus in on that point and you'll see how
[1:32:53] Speaker 2: you'll pull yourself back into one dimension of space and time,
[1:32:57] Speaker 2: the present moment time. So just give me a second,
[1:33:00] Speaker 2: can It'll help a lot of people that watch your show, buddy.
[1:33:09] Speaker 2: Okay there, So notice how that pulled you together. That
[1:33:14] Speaker 2: makes sense for you, just not on your head. So
[1:33:17] Speaker 2: those are all say fragments or remnants that kind of
[1:33:20] Speaker 2: float away. Just imagine like waves that just start to
[1:33:24] Speaker 2: float away. So what I was doing is like pulling
[1:33:27] Speaker 2: all those remnants of you back into you. Okay, all right,
[1:33:32] Speaker 2: So now that you're more singular, so when you look
[1:33:39] Speaker 2: at somebody, you can see how they're rendering themselves. Are
[1:33:44] Speaker 2: they more coherent? And this is what true coherence. Everybody
[1:33:47] Speaker 2: talks about coherence, but nobody really knows what it's about.
[1:33:50] Speaker 2: So are you rendering yourself in say a single dimension
[1:33:54] Speaker 2: of space and time? And you'll see that. So with
[1:33:58] Speaker 2: you with vaunts and someone you'll start to see their
[1:34:02] Speaker 2: physical body and then also like which dimension they're rendering,
[1:34:08] Speaker 2: and then if you want, you can actually see how
[1:34:14] Speaker 2: see what dimension that they're rendering in, and you can
[1:34:18] Speaker 2: actually tell them how they work because you have that
[1:34:22] Speaker 2: ability already. Can I help you activate that for you?
[1:34:26] Speaker 1: All right?
[1:34:27] Speaker 2: So excuse me a second? There you go? So did
[1:34:41] Speaker 2: you kind of notice yourself shift a bit?
[1:34:46] Speaker 1: Kind of amouds yet?
[1:34:48] Speaker 2: Yeah, just give me one second. But I just want
[1:34:52] Speaker 2: to anchor you so you don't sometimes people get disoriented,
[1:34:57] Speaker 2: so h.
[1:35:00] Speaker 1: You go.
[1:35:02] Speaker 2: So I locked you in a bit as well, initially
[1:35:05] Speaker 2: you and the audience, because sometimes when you start to
[1:35:08] Speaker 2: see other people's dimensions, especially if you're empathic, you'll just
[1:35:12] Speaker 2: like literally vaporize into their dimension and that's not good.
[1:35:15] Speaker 2: So I was just pulling you. You're not as bad,
[1:35:19] Speaker 2: but people in your audience who are impassed basically they
[1:35:23] Speaker 2: want to they need to stay anchored where they need
[1:35:25] Speaker 2: to be. There you go, all right, one, two, three, four?
[1:35:29] Speaker 2: There we go? How are you doing?
[1:35:31] Speaker 1: I'm doing good.
[1:35:33] Speaker 2: I can also shift you if you want, so you
[1:35:35] Speaker 2: can experience it. Do you hon go for it? Do
[1:35:39] Speaker 2: you want to experience it. Okay, so you and your
[1:35:40] Speaker 2: audience as well. All right, So take a breath in
[1:35:45] Speaker 2: and I'm just going to counsel. I'm not going to
[1:35:47] Speaker 2: plant any seeds for you or anything like that, but
[1:35:50] Speaker 2: I'll just count, okay, and you tell me what you feel, right, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven. Well,
[1:36:23] Speaker 2: so did you experience anything? Did you feel a pull
[1:36:29] Speaker 2: out of your body?
[1:36:31] Speaker 1: I felt pulses.
[1:36:33] Speaker 2: Yeah, you're actually solid, grounded, which is nice. It took
[1:36:37] Speaker 2: me a bit harder to say push you out of
[1:36:42] Speaker 2: your consciousness or your awareness of where your body is.
[1:36:46] Speaker 2: But did you feel that pulse or that push, that pull?
[1:36:49] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[1:36:50] Speaker 2: Okay, so that's so. I didn't want to push you
[1:36:54] Speaker 2: too far. But those people again who aren't, say as
[1:36:59] Speaker 2: solid as you are, they would have literally felt themselves
[1:37:02] Speaker 2: like move across the room, you know. So but again
[1:37:05] Speaker 2: you're more solid. It's like, no, I want to stay here.
[1:37:08] Speaker 2: That's where I want to be the present moment. So
[1:37:10] Speaker 2: you did good. But you'll feel pulses like I was
[1:37:12] Speaker 2: pulling in and then you go nope, I'll be back
[1:37:15] Speaker 2: pulling in. So okay, so that's what you're going to
[1:37:19] Speaker 2: see is that, oh, they're rendering themselves over there, but
[1:37:22] Speaker 2: their bodies over.
[1:37:23] Speaker 1: Here, and that means that something's off.
[1:37:25] Speaker 2: Yeah, and that means that something's off. The further off
[1:37:28] Speaker 2: they are from their body, the more weird.
[1:37:36] Speaker 1: All right, So I'll tell you what happened. Yes, So
[1:37:39] Speaker 1: when you were going when when you were saying you
[1:37:41] Speaker 1: were taking fragments around. Spirit usually uses cinema and movies
[1:37:48] Speaker 1: and TV show to express things to me because that's
[1:37:50] Speaker 1: my language. And so I saw and I don't know
[1:37:54] Speaker 1: where it came from, and I'm not a huge fan,
[1:37:56] Speaker 1: but I grew up with it Voltron Okay. I saw
[1:37:59] Speaker 1: all the lines coming together forming Vulture. That was a
[1:38:04] Speaker 1: different set fragments that you were putting together. So that
[1:38:08] Speaker 1: was the first thing I saw. Second thing is when
[1:38:11] Speaker 1: you were doing it, all of a sudden, I just
[1:38:13] Speaker 1: felt my because I was becoming very well, I was
[1:38:15] Speaker 1: studying my body and feeling everything, and I just started
[1:38:18] Speaker 1: doing this. Yeah, I just started shifting a little bit.
[1:38:22] Speaker 1: And then you said, are you do you feel a shift?
[1:38:25] Speaker 1: And I start started laughing because I was like, it's
[1:38:27] Speaker 1: exactly what I'm doing. So my body by itself just
[1:38:30] Speaker 1: started to kind of rock a little bit, yes, back
[1:38:33] Speaker 1: and forth. So that was the next thing. Then when
[1:38:36] Speaker 1: we were going into it all a little bit more,
[1:38:39] Speaker 1: I in my mind, I was on a beach and
[1:38:45] Speaker 1: I saw waves coming in, waves coming in, but it
[1:38:50] Speaker 1: was a specific beach. It's the beach from Contact. Okay,
[1:38:54] Speaker 1: you remember Contact, the movie Contact with Jodie Foster when
[1:38:57] Speaker 1: she goes to see her father like that, she travels
[1:39:00] Speaker 1: in that wormhole. She ends off in a place where
[1:39:02] Speaker 1: it's like this beautiful beach and her dad comes out
[1:39:05] Speaker 1: and everything. It's the aliens and all that stuff. That's
[1:39:08] Speaker 1: where I was. That was the beach I was in specifically.
[1:39:11] Speaker 1: So it's interesting that I chose that beach for it's
[1:39:13] Speaker 1: just millions of other beaches. I mean, I love the movie.
[1:39:16] Speaker 1: I really do enjoy that movie. But it's not it's
[1:39:19] Speaker 1: not the Matrix or it's not like one of those
[1:39:20] Speaker 1: movies that really hit me. But it's a beautiful movie
[1:39:23] Speaker 1: and I love it. But that beach had some sort
[1:39:26] Speaker 1: of resonance for me. I don't know why, for this scenario.
[1:39:30] Speaker 1: So then and then as you were talking, the waves
[1:39:34] Speaker 1: were hitting me here in the third eye constantly, So
[1:39:37] Speaker 1: that was the push the pulse that I felt. I
[1:39:40] Speaker 1: didn't feel any yanking or anything. I just didn't move,
[1:39:44] Speaker 1: but I felt pulses. So I don't know if that
[1:39:47] Speaker 1: means anything.
[1:39:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, it does well. Like I said, you're more coherent.
[1:39:51] Speaker 2: You stay in your position where you should be. Other
[1:39:55] Speaker 2: people would literally feel themselves like stepped out of their body.
[1:40:01] Speaker 2: Like the audience listening to this, some people go, whoa
[1:40:04] Speaker 2: that that. Even on a recording, they'll go, should I
[1:40:07] Speaker 2: felt like I stepped out of my body? And it's
[1:40:09] Speaker 2: not like me doing that to you? But you have
[1:40:11] Speaker 2: a propensity. Whoever it happens to that they literally step
[1:40:16] Speaker 2: get stepped out of their body.
[1:40:20] Speaker 1: That you're very different in a beautiful way. So you're
[1:40:25] Speaker 1: very very different. One thing you speak about about the
[1:40:28] Speaker 1: timeless self, what is the time? Is the timeless self
[1:40:31] Speaker 1: we've been talking about?
[1:40:32] Speaker 2: Yes? Is that the Yeah, people use spirit, but you
[1:40:36] Speaker 2: know spirit has just been so watered down, muddied. You know,
[1:40:41] Speaker 2: they've got a spiritual, lot of spiritual or scientific type
[1:40:44] Speaker 2: connotations on that. I just use the timeless self, which
[1:40:47] Speaker 2: is a limitless it's.
[1:40:49] Speaker 1: Soul, spirit, It's all kind of the same thing. It's
[1:40:51] Speaker 1: just a term for it.
[1:40:52] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[1:40:53] Speaker 1: Interesting, I mean I could talk to you for another hour.
[1:40:57] Speaker 2: Man, what's really cool is, like, you know, people who
[1:41:01] Speaker 2: have really really amazing abilities, like Elon Musk or anybody
[1:41:04] Speaker 2: like that, if they started or understood the concepts behind
[1:41:10] Speaker 2: what I teach, they would be amazing. And yeah, even more,
[1:41:16] Speaker 2: their technologies wouldn't say destroy the reality that we're in,
[1:41:21] Speaker 2: because even the most say benevolent, say, technology has always
[1:41:25] Speaker 2: turned into something that buried.
[1:41:27] Speaker 1: Can be a hammer, could kill or build.
[1:41:29] Speaker 2: It's up to exactly. Yeah, so in the purpose why
[1:41:33] Speaker 2: you know, even food now has become a destructive force
[1:41:36] Speaker 2: because because we because we've built it in an altered state,
[1:41:40] Speaker 2: and we bring it here and it's foreign to it.
[1:41:43] Speaker 2: We have to change say this consciousness or this environment
[1:41:47] Speaker 2: for that say, technology to say properly create say sustenance
[1:41:53] Speaker 2: for us.
[1:41:53] Speaker 1: Let me because and I don't want to go down
[1:41:56] Speaker 1: because I'll talk to you for an hour or two
[1:41:57] Speaker 1: about this. But recently I've gone through a shift in
[1:42:02] Speaker 1: my body and my ability to what I'm eating, how
[1:42:05] Speaker 1: I'm eating, getting into food science and all.
[1:42:08] Speaker 2: That kind of stuff.
[1:42:10] Speaker 1: What I've been studying within myself as my own experiment
[1:42:14] Speaker 1: is in its I know it doesn't sound revolutionary, but
[1:42:18] Speaker 1: it is eating clean whole foods. Yeah, as minimally processed
[1:42:25] Speaker 1: as possible, as minimally processed. I mean, everything has a
[1:42:29] Speaker 1: form of tofu. There's processing. Tempe is processed, you know,
[1:42:34] Speaker 1: even meat is processed, you know, regardless. But I'm talking
[1:42:39] Speaker 1: about ultra processed, getting away from all that ultra process
[1:42:42] Speaker 1: you know, where you see an Oreo cookie and they
[1:42:45] Speaker 1: put a blowtorch to it and it for a minute.
[1:42:48] Speaker 2: Yeah, and it doesn't burn. I haven't seen that, but
[1:42:51] Speaker 2: oh no, no.
[1:42:52] Speaker 1: It's literally they do. They put a bunch of Oreo
[1:42:54] Speaker 1: cookies and they ten seconds, twenty seconds, and they did
[1:42:59] Speaker 1: two minutes on one. And it's hard, but it didn't.
[1:43:03] Speaker 1: The bag it came in goes faster than the actual thing,
[1:43:08] Speaker 1: you know. And then of course everyone's seeing those McDonald's
[1:43:11] Speaker 1: burgers that they sit there forever and they never change.
[1:43:13] Speaker 1: So that's ultra processed. But what has happened to me
[1:43:17] Speaker 1: is as I continue to eat these whole processed old
[1:43:20] Speaker 1: foods that I process at home. When I say by process,
[1:43:23] Speaker 1: I cook, I combine, I'm the one putting it all together.
[1:43:26] Speaker 1: I see the ingredients. Everything has changed in my existence,
[1:43:32] Speaker 1: in my body in my mind, in my spiritual experience,
[1:43:36] Speaker 1: all of it is shifted in a way that I
[1:43:39] Speaker 1: didn't really understand. I did on an intellectual level, but
[1:43:43] Speaker 1: now I understand, and it's such a deep level. Now
[1:43:46] Speaker 1: it's fascinating. And we are under attack, no question, around the.
[1:43:50] Speaker 2: World because they're trying to separate you from, say, the
[1:43:53] Speaker 2: source of nutrition. It's not just you know, minerals and
[1:43:57] Speaker 2: supplements and you know minerals and all the things that
[1:44:00] Speaker 2: you need physically biologically, but it's the connection to the
[1:44:04] Speaker 2: intelligence that they created the food, the energy, the energy
[1:44:08] Speaker 2: that's the piece that's missing in a lot of foods.
[1:44:11] Speaker 2: And what's happening to you is like you've changed, therefore
[1:44:14] Speaker 2: your food has to change. You're not forcing yourself to
[1:44:17] Speaker 2: eat clean.
[1:44:18] Speaker 1: No, no, no, I search for it exactly.
[1:44:21] Speaker 2: It's like it's like you are a higher say, resonating being,
[1:44:26] Speaker 2: and it's like that just doesn't resonate with me. So
[1:44:29] Speaker 2: it's not a force. It's not like I can't eat
[1:44:31] Speaker 2: McDonald or I can't you know like some people do.
[1:44:34] Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's not an I don't want it anymore exactly.
[1:44:38] Speaker 2: It's and that's how we change the world. Is like
[1:44:40] Speaker 2: people awakening like on your show, and it's beautiful, you know,
[1:44:44] Speaker 2: people start awakening. It's like I don't want that shit.
[1:44:47] Speaker 2: No matter how much media or how much you know,
[1:44:49] Speaker 2: advertising goes into It's like, no, I'm not taking that stuff.
[1:44:52] Speaker 2: And that's where we change the world.
[1:44:54] Speaker 1: Have you seen there is the beauty of nature. They
[1:44:58] Speaker 1: put out an experiment. They put out a stock of corn,
[1:45:01] Speaker 1: like a corn cob right raw on a stick, and
[1:45:05] Speaker 1: then they put a GMO corn on the cob and
[1:45:08] Speaker 1: they put it in the forest. They set a camera up.
[1:45:12] Speaker 1: The animals wouldn't touch the GMO. They devoured the other
[1:45:16] Speaker 1: one in the day exactly. No one even looked at it.
[1:45:19] Speaker 1: So what does that say that the animals are more intelligent?
[1:45:25] Speaker 2: There's but that's running on an intelligence system.
[1:45:27] Speaker 1: There's they're running on something else that because they look
[1:45:30] Speaker 1: identical and they smell identical and everything looks but there
[1:45:34] Speaker 1: was something so different from the GMO version of it
[1:45:37] Speaker 1: that the animals se like, nope, I'm good, I could starve,
[1:45:42] Speaker 1: but I know if I eat that I will die.
[1:45:44] Speaker 1: Exactly That's the way they felt at least. But what's
[1:45:48] Speaker 1: that intelligence? That's the But that's the point, Like what
[1:45:51] Speaker 1: is the information that a deer or a chipmunk or
[1:45:55] Speaker 1: a squirrel is getting to go oh no, because it
[1:45:59] Speaker 1: goes every instinct that that animal has to continue to survive,
[1:46:04] Speaker 1: is to eat and eat as much as they can
[1:46:06] Speaker 1: when they have food. But that food I'm not touching.
[1:46:08] Speaker 1: It's fascinating that that is. When I saw that, I
[1:46:11] Speaker 1: was like.
[1:46:11] Speaker 2: Wow, well that's what that's what this is all about.
[1:46:14] Speaker 2: It's like, wait, let's get back to the intelligent code
[1:46:16] Speaker 2: that you're built already with and remember it. You don't
[1:46:21] Speaker 2: even have to learn it, you already have it. You
[1:46:25] Speaker 2: just have to remember it.
[1:46:27] Speaker 1: And that's what this whole thing is. It's like you're
[1:46:29] Speaker 1: not learning to become enlightened, you're remembering who you truly are.
[1:46:35] Speaker 2: That's it.
[1:46:37] Speaker 1: That's it.
[1:46:38] Speaker 2: That's the key, is like remember who you are and
[1:46:41] Speaker 2: then go down river and it changes a lot faster.
[1:46:45] Speaker 1: Mazadi, where can people find out more about you and
[1:46:47] Speaker 1: the amazing work you're doing.
[1:46:48] Speaker 2: They can go to the XI code, the XI Xponational
[1:46:52] Speaker 2: Intelligence Code dot com. Uh. There's also Masadi dot live
[1:46:57] Speaker 2: m A s a t I dot live h which
[1:47:00] Speaker 2: is my YouTube channel, and they can get a ton
[1:47:02] Speaker 2: of just free free downloads and it's We also do
[1:47:06] Speaker 2: it live every Sunday. We do that live and I
[1:47:09] Speaker 2: scan people. You don't have to tell me your age anything,
[1:47:14] Speaker 2: and just say hey, scan me, uh, and I can
[1:47:17] Speaker 2: scan your frequency and tell you what's going on.
[1:47:20] Speaker 1: Really yeah, well maybe we could do that in a minute.
[1:47:26] Speaker 1: We've done a bunch of stuff today already. So Mazada,
[1:47:30] Speaker 1: there has been a pleasure talking to you, my friend.
[1:47:32] Speaker 1: So I look forward to having you back for more
[1:47:34] Speaker 1: interesting conversations.
[1:47:36] Speaker 3: Uh.
[1:47:36] Speaker 1: I appreciate you and everything you do.
[1:47:37] Speaker 2: And thank you so much, my friend.
[1:47:39] Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for spending this sacred time with
[1:47:44] Speaker 1: us today. If you feel called to explore this conversation further,
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