# Artists: Your Next Step Doesn't Have to Be Big - S5E09

An episode of [Arts To Hearts Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1556867038), 11 Sep 2025, 47 min.

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In this episode of the Arts to Hearts Project, Charuka talks with illustrator Sarah Walsh about building a creative career that balances client work, side projects, and long-term goals. Sarah shares how she went from working in greeting cards to freelancing full-time, why she keeps her shop small on purpose, and how making zines opened the door to writing a graphic novel. Together, they break down the value of starting small, staying consistent, and keeping more than one lane open as a freelancer.

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