# EP278 The Agentic SOC: Are We Measuring Time Saved or Risk Reduced?

An episode of [Cloud Security Podcast by Google](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1554145026), 18 May 2026, 28 min.

Audio: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/cloudsecuritypodcast/EP278_not276_CloudSecPodcast.mp3?dest-id=2641814

Guest: • Matt Gregson, Principal - PwC Cyber Security Topics: • What is the state of the art of "agentic SOC" in 2026? Can you describe the most agentic SOC you've seen so far? • In your experience, what are the main measurable benefits of AI agents in a SOC and IR? • Imagine a 2030 SOC, what do humans do? • Tell us more about how you judge if a client SOC is ready for AI and agents? What is the "Ouch" moment where most organizations realize their data isn't ready for that level of autonomy? • Should we be more afraid of "AI hallucinations" or "Human fatigue" in the SOC? • If a team has an agentic teammate making its own decisions based on emergent reasoning, how do you audit its "thought process"? • Everyone loves to talk about "Time Saved," but in an agentic SOC, we care about "Decision Quality." What is the one metric PwC uses to prove that a SOC agent deployment is actually reducing risk? • We often hear about "human-agent teaming." Are they still looking at alerts, or are they just approving "Action Plans" generated by the AI? Resources: • Video version • EP236 Accelerated SIEM Journey: A SOC Leader's Playbook for Modernization and AI • EP252 The Agentic SOC Reality: Governing AI Agents, Data Fidelity, and Measuring Success • EP264 Measuring Your (Agentic) SOC: Two Security Leaders Walk into a Podcast • All SOC and SIEM episodes

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