# 3 & Out - MNF REACTION: Chicago Bears lose it down the stretch against the Minnesota Vikings

An episode of [The Colin Cowherd Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1551365571), 9 Sep 2025, 1 h 07 min.

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John is back breaking down the Monday Night Football matchup between NFC North divisional rivals the Chicago Bears & Minnesota Vikings. John reacts to Caleb Williams' performance in head coach Ben Johnson's new offense, JJ McCarthy's official NFL debut with the Vikings, his massive 4th quarter, and much more! Finally, John answers your questions in this episode's mailbag segment. Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest. All lines provided by hardrock.bet Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow - for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #Volume See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we
[0:18] Speaker 1: doing three in our podcast? Probably not as well as
[0:21] Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, who had one of the great fourth quarter
[0:25] Speaker 1: turnarounds to start a career you'll ever see. It looked
[0:29] Speaker 1: like he was gonna get benched by week four, to
[0:32] Speaker 1: becoming I don't know, pretty legendary debut. A couple of touchdowns,
[0:38] Speaker 1: throwing another one running to take down the Bears. Caleb Williams,
[0:42] Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, what a night. We will dive into JJ
[0:46] Speaker 1: to Kleb, to that game, to Howie Roseman making deals,
[0:51] Speaker 1: trying to trade for Micah Parsons, the Giants, sticking with
[0:55] Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. I don't think it's a great idea. And
[0:59] Speaker 1: a couple couple quick thoughts on Tom Brady watched a
[1:01] Speaker 1: lot of his broadcast, And we'll also do a mailbag
[1:04] Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff at John Midlecoff is the Instagram, Fire
[1:06] Speaker 1: in those dms and get your questions answered here on
[1:09] Speaker 1: the show. So did a mail bag today? Fire in
[1:12] Speaker 1: those mailbags because we're gonna keep banging those out. Definitely
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[1:19] Speaker 1: I feel like I've just been doing games now for
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[2:57] Speaker 1: we just witnessed. And I've been thinking a lot about
[2:59] Speaker 1: this because forever, I would say, conventional wisdom with people
[3:05] Speaker 1: that talk about football, with people that talk about draft prospects,
[3:08] Speaker 1: and you know, the draft order and drafting quarterbacks, is
[3:12] Speaker 1: how lucky it is for quarterbacks to go to good teams.
[3:17] Speaker 1: I e. Patrick Mahomes when the Chiefs traded up to
[3:20] Speaker 1: get him, and he eventually replaced Alex Smith, and I said, yeah,
[3:25] Speaker 1: I mean in theory, it makes a lot of sense.
[3:27] Speaker 1: But you better be good right away because we have
[3:30] Speaker 1: a couple recent examples of guys getting acquired drafted high
[3:35] Speaker 1: by teams, the forty nine ers with Super Bowl expectations
[3:38] Speaker 1: and the Colts with Playoff expectations, and your leash is
[3:43] Speaker 1: way smaller than the guys that get drafted on god
[3:47] Speaker 1: awful teams. Take Bryce Young for example. He showed some
[3:51] Speaker 1: signs of life at the end of last season, but
[3:54] Speaker 1: he just had a horrendous game year three. You know what,
[3:58] Speaker 1: no one saw it. It actually doesn't matter now. Is
[4:02] Speaker 1: he going to be their quarterback in three years? I
[4:04] Speaker 1: wouldn't feel confident about saying that, but he's gonna get
[4:07] Speaker 1: this year. They play in a market, they play for
[4:09] Speaker 1: a team that's not winning many games. People aren't paying attention.
[4:12] Speaker 1: But when Trey Lance was thrust into the starting lineup,
[4:15] Speaker 1: it was like, you better be good and right away.
[4:17] Speaker 1: Some of the star players like, I don't see it
[4:20] Speaker 1: last year, Anthony Richardson, all the guys like, we are out.
[4:23] Speaker 1: And that's what it felt like watching JJ McCarthy today.
[4:26] Speaker 1: It's like this is a roster and a franchise that
[4:29] Speaker 1: won fourteen games last year, was sixteen minutes away from
[4:32] Speaker 1: being the number one seed. Who I don't know if
[4:35] Speaker 1: they have Super Bowl aspirations with a first time starter
[4:37] Speaker 1: at quarterback, but at minimum competing for the division and
[4:41] Speaker 1: be playing in January. Anything less than a playoff game,
[4:45] Speaker 1: even if it is on the road as a wild
[4:47] Speaker 1: card team, would be an awful pill to swallow for
[4:51] Speaker 1: everyone in Minnesota, given that they clearly have one of
[4:55] Speaker 1: the best rosters in the NFL and obviously an excellent
[4:59] Speaker 1: head coat coach who's the offensive play caller and a
[5:02] Speaker 1: dominant defensive coordinator, and just a winning culture this franchise
[5:05] Speaker 1: since Kevin O'Connell has been there, we've lost the playoff games,
[5:08] Speaker 1: two of them as favorites, but they have been an
[5:11] Speaker 1: excellent regular season team. And you're watching that first half
[5:15] Speaker 1: and you're going, this might not work. Not because you're
[5:19] Speaker 1: just going, this guy physically can't play, even though he
[5:23] Speaker 1: looked definitely overwhelmed and he was swimming on the road. Honestly,
[5:26] Speaker 1: it had it had some march manning at Ohio State
[5:29] Speaker 1: feels it's like this is way too big for this guy.
[5:32] Speaker 1: This is he's melting down, and then he throws the
[5:34] Speaker 1: pick six and you start thinking, is this guy gonna
[5:37] Speaker 1: make it to Halloween? Do they need to get on
[5:39] Speaker 1: the phone and call Atlanta to get Kirk Cousins back?
[5:43] Speaker 1: What are they gonna do? How can they look Justin
[5:45] Speaker 1: Jefferson in the face? How can they look all the
[5:47] Speaker 1: guys on defense in the face? How can they ask
[5:50] Speaker 1: their star left tackle to battle back from rehabilitating his
[5:54] Speaker 1: torn knee for this? And then he flipped a switch
[6:00] Speaker 1: and you went, what did I just witness? And one
[6:03] Speaker 1: thing I would say, two things we don't talk enough
[6:05] Speaker 1: about when it comes to quarterbacks mental toughness and obviously
[6:10] Speaker 1: physical toughness. And the mental toughness won. This guy started
[6:13] Speaker 1: for Harbaugh for a couple of years, and it's why
[6:15] Speaker 1: I had reservations about the player because I went one.
[6:19] Speaker 1: He played at Michigan, which the majority of teams they played,
[6:23] Speaker 1: they had a huge talent advantage. He was on a
[6:26] Speaker 1: roster with basically every guy started on offense, started on defense,
[6:31] Speaker 1: and most of the backups were NFL players. He lost
[6:34] Speaker 1: one game in college and it was a freak game
[6:37] Speaker 1: to TCU and Sunny Dikes, which they should have been
[6:39] Speaker 1: in the National Championship game back to back games. Now,
[6:42] Speaker 1: they probably would have lost that Georgia team in the
[6:44] Speaker 1: National Championship, but this guy's not used to losing. And
[6:48] Speaker 1: my reservation was the way they played in college, a
[6:51] Speaker 1: run first coach. I don't know how this is gonna
[6:55] Speaker 1: mesh with Minnesota and a coach that wants to throw
[6:59] Speaker 1: the ball. Now, he only had twenty attempts to night,
[7:01] Speaker 1: and through early in the game it was not pretty
[7:04] Speaker 1: at all. But by the end of the game, you
[7:06] Speaker 1: saw him drive passes, you saw him touch passes, you
[7:10] Speaker 1: saw him manipulate the pocket, you saw him stand in
[7:13] Speaker 1: the pocket. Obviously he ran for a touchdown. And I
[7:16] Speaker 1: was thinking about this, like, if you get hired out
[7:18] Speaker 1: of college at Chase Bank or Goldman Sachs, and the
[7:23] Speaker 1: first thing they do is say, hey, you're gonna go
[7:25] Speaker 1: meet with Warren Buffett or Jeff Bezos tonight or tomorrow,
[7:29] Speaker 1: our biggest clients. That'd be asking them a lot. And
[7:32] Speaker 1: that's kind of what it feels like when you get
[7:35] Speaker 1: drafted to a team that has thirteen, fourteen to fifteen
[7:38] Speaker 1: win expectations. There is no margin foreer everyone is watching
[7:42] Speaker 1: your games most of us out of college aren't asked
[7:46] Speaker 1: to do much, get the shitty assignments. That is playing
[7:49] Speaker 1: for the Carolina Panthers. And you watch tonight on the
[7:52] Speaker 1: road in Chicago. The place is buzzn't The defense is
[7:55] Speaker 1: flying around. You're like, listen, this is it's only one game.
[7:59] Speaker 1: It's on the row, but this is gonna be hard
[8:01] Speaker 1: to overcome. They threw the kitchen stick at him and
[8:04] Speaker 1: he kind of failed, and then the fourth quarter happened.
[8:07] Speaker 1: They were around seventeen to six, They won twenty seven
[8:11] Speaker 1: to twenty four, and he accounted for three touchdowns. So
[8:14] Speaker 1: that was I don't know as exhilarating of a turnarounds
[8:21] Speaker 1: I can ever remember for a young player. And if
[8:23] Speaker 1: you're a Minnesota Viking fan right now, you get Atlanta
[8:26] Speaker 1: at home this upcoming week on Sunday Night football, you're
[8:29] Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about yourself because that young guy. And
[8:32] Speaker 1: Troy Aikman said, this showed a lot of moxie, a
[8:35] Speaker 1: lot of toughness. And the thing I'll never forget about
[8:38] Speaker 1: the Trey Lance San Francisco experience was how their star
[8:42] Speaker 1: core didn't believe in the guy. And when you don't
[8:46] Speaker 1: have your Pro Bowl all pro level guys believing in
[8:49] Speaker 1: your quarterback. It's over before it even starts. We saw
[8:52] Speaker 1: that the Colts don't have as many high end guys,
[8:55] Speaker 1: but it was clear they turned on him as well.
[8:58] Speaker 1: And tonight you're thinking, like God, is is Jefferson gonna believe? Here?
[9:01] Speaker 1: Are all the guys on defense gonna believe? Is Jordan
[9:04] Speaker 1: Addison when he comes back? This is not gonna work?
[9:07] Speaker 1: Is darrisaw going? What am I rehabbing for? And now
[9:11] Speaker 1: in the locker room, I can imagine when these videos
[9:13] Speaker 1: go viral, they're having him break it down. They're going nuts,
[9:17] Speaker 1: They're giving him the game ball. There is belief. There
[9:20] Speaker 1: is nothing more powerful in this world than hope. It
[9:24] Speaker 1: is just a powerful driver for us all at any
[9:27] Speaker 1: point in time in our life. And I think that
[9:31] Speaker 1: hope and that belief that that team showed looking at
[9:34] Speaker 1: their quarterback, how fired up their head coaches. There is
[9:38] Speaker 1: no disputing this. Their coaching staff in Minnesota is excellent. Now,
[9:43] Speaker 1: I think Kevin can get a little pass happy though.
[9:46] Speaker 1: Tonight I thought he did a good job and one
[9:48] Speaker 1: thing that he settled JJ down a little bit. He
[9:51] Speaker 1: handed the ball to Jordan Mason, who somehow is on
[9:55] Speaker 1: their team because the forty nine ers wanted to save
[9:57] Speaker 1: a couple million dollars. That guy's a good running back,
[10:00] Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, excellent pass catching running back. Out of the backfield.
[10:04] Speaker 1: You can throw him wheel routes till the cows come home.
[10:07] Speaker 1: And a couple times I thought in the playoffs, specifically
[10:09] Speaker 1: last year in the Lions game, in the Rams game,
[10:13] Speaker 1: I thought Kevin got a little pass happy, and listen,
[10:15] Speaker 1: we all have our philosophical beliefs when it comes to football,
[10:18] Speaker 1: if we're an offensive guy or a defensive guy. Kevin
[10:21] Speaker 1: likes to pass. But I thought tonight he did a
[10:23] Speaker 1: really good job of just balancing it a little bit.
[10:26] Speaker 1: And once JJ got his confidence, throw a to eighteen,
[10:29] Speaker 1: Throw it to eighteen, throw it to eighteen. And obviously
[10:32] Speaker 1: that's where the floodgates open when he hit him on
[10:34] Speaker 1: the touchdown. And you know, Brian Flores is elite at
[10:38] Speaker 1: what he does that defense. This was the question mark
[10:42] Speaker 1: with the team. I looked as JJ was melting down,
[10:45] Speaker 1: and I was like, this is why I think his
[10:46] Speaker 1: leash is going to be small. Through the first four
[10:49] Speaker 1: games last year, Sam Darnold had thrown twelve touchdowns. Minnesota
[10:55] Speaker 1: came out of the gates so hot. Obviously from a
[10:58] Speaker 1: win lost standpoint, but from an offensive standpoint. He threw
[11:02] Speaker 1: two touchdowns in the first two games, and then it
[11:04] Speaker 1: was four and three. He was slinging that pill. It
[11:08] Speaker 1: was just fireworks. So the expectations, which I understand letting
[11:13] Speaker 1: him go, was to use those resources and buy other players.
[11:17] Speaker 1: Totally get it. But then the pressure, even you know,
[11:20] Speaker 1: amplifies on JJ and he answered the bell, you know,
[11:24] Speaker 1: for a guy that did not even throw for one
[11:26] Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards. I can't tell you how impressed
[11:30] Speaker 1: I am, because the one thing when you're scouting players,
[11:34] Speaker 1: you know, we can all see JJ can run around.
[11:36] Speaker 1: Look at Caleb that there's no disputing. Honestly, he's even
[11:39] Speaker 1: a better athlete than I thought. You watch him sling
[11:42] Speaker 1: that thing. He's throwing one hundred mile an hour fastballs.
[11:44] Speaker 1: My mom can see the physical gifts. How about the
[11:47] Speaker 1: mental gifts? How about the intangibles? What's it like when
[11:51] Speaker 1: shit's hitting the fan. I've referenced this a couple of times.
[11:54] Speaker 1: The Athletic article on quarterbacks, and the premise of it
[11:58] Speaker 1: was something Kevin O'Connell said did organizations fail quarterbacks? Not
[12:02] Speaker 1: the other way around that quarterbacks fail organizations. And Bill
[12:06] Speaker 1: Parcells was quoted in there saying, don't evaluate quarterbacks when
[12:11] Speaker 1: they throw three touchdowns and win. Everyone acts the same.
[12:15] Speaker 1: Evaluate them when things are crumbling around them, when they
[12:19] Speaker 1: throw a pick six, when they look like shit, How
[12:22] Speaker 1: do they act? How do they carry themselves? And we
[12:25] Speaker 1: got a front row seat watching JJ McCarthy because he
[12:28] Speaker 1: throws that pick six to the practice squad guy who
[12:31] Speaker 1: honestly looked pretty six to four corner from Oregon State,
[12:35] Speaker 1: fascinating player. Awful that he ends up hurting his knee
[12:38] Speaker 1: late in the game, but has the pick six. He
[12:41] Speaker 1: had gone against Justin Jefferson last year in practice, every
[12:44] Speaker 1: single day when he was on the Minnesota Vikings. To
[12:47] Speaker 1: have that moment in Chicago, what a cool, just thing
[12:50] Speaker 1: to happen to that guy's career. And it felt like
[12:53] Speaker 1: he was ruining JJ's moment, and JJ was melting down
[12:56] Speaker 1: in front of us all and then that fourth quarter
[12:59] Speaker 1: happened and he turned into Sam Darnold or Kirk Cousins,
[13:03] Speaker 1: the guys that Kevin O'Connell has won a ton of
[13:06] Speaker 1: games with. So congrat to JJ McCarthy that that was
[13:10] Speaker 1: extremely impressive. Now on the flo and listen Minnesota. One
[13:15] Speaker 1: thing I wrote down is I was like, green Bay's
[13:18] Speaker 1: watching this game. When the Bears looked okay, they weren't
[13:22] Speaker 1: doing anything on offense or defense looked good and Minnesota
[13:24] Speaker 1: looked terrible. I'm like, what a win for the green
[13:26] Speaker 1: Bay Packers. You get the Lions with a ton of issues,
[13:29] Speaker 1: You got the Bears offense can't do anything. You got
[13:32] Speaker 1: Minnesota that might have a quarterback problem. I'm texting our
[13:36] Speaker 1: group text thinking green Bay's gonna win this division by
[13:39] Speaker 1: three or four games. And now I feel I still
[13:42] Speaker 1: like green Bay. But hey, listen, Minnesota is loaded and
[13:46] Speaker 1: we're gonna find Chicago. They go to Detroit this week,
[13:51] Speaker 1: who clearly is going to be really, really motivated. Let's
[13:57] Speaker 1: touch on Kleeb. I want to say this as nice
[14:02] Speaker 1: as I can. Like I mentioned, physically gifted, he made
[14:06] Speaker 1: some plays tonight with his legs faster than I even thought.
[14:10] Speaker 1: No one has ever questioned his arm. He spins it
[14:13] Speaker 1: exactly like you want it. But we don't pay you
[14:16] Speaker 1: to just run around or just to spin it into
[14:19] Speaker 1: the ground. Pay you to pay quarterback that's why he
[14:22] Speaker 1: was drafted number one overall. And as this game went,
[14:26] Speaker 1: I went, I don't know if I see it. And
[14:29] Speaker 1: early on in the game, I think people were giving
[14:31] Speaker 1: him a ton of credit. He's nine for his first nine,
[14:34] Speaker 1: well eight of those were dumpoffs. He was dunking, and
[14:37] Speaker 1: Duncan and even Troy kind of mentioned early in the
[14:40] Speaker 1: game it's like, I think there were a couple passes there.
[14:42] Speaker 1: He just he didn't let it rip. Now, new offense,
[14:46] Speaker 1: trying to play under control. I'll give you the benefit
[14:49] Speaker 1: of the doubt. You don't want to make a mistake
[14:50] Speaker 1: early new coach, who's you know? Clearly, as Joe Buck said,
[14:55] Speaker 1: wound tight over there. The offense is baby. You're just
[14:58] Speaker 1: trying to move the ball down the field and get
[15:01] Speaker 1: your offense going in a positive direction. As the game
[15:05] Speaker 1: went on, though, I don't feel he's a rhythm player.
[15:09] Speaker 1: I don't feel he's a natural in the pocket play
[15:12] Speaker 1: quarterback player. To me, the way he would have any
[15:16] Speaker 1: success in the NFL, because for a long time in
[15:18] Speaker 1: this game it was seventeen to six. The seven points
[15:22] Speaker 1: after he ran for the first touchdown on the first
[15:24] Speaker 1: drive of the game came from the pick six. The
[15:27] Speaker 1: offense was doing nothing. It was punt punt, three and out,
[15:31] Speaker 1: three and out. It was ugly that they couldn't move
[15:34] Speaker 1: the ball. And I watched Caleb Williams and I go,
[15:38] Speaker 1: I don't see the mesh with Ben Johnson. I really don't.
[15:42] Speaker 1: I don't see a guy in the pocket that has
[15:44] Speaker 1: a great feel for the subtle movements. He's natural, like
[15:48] Speaker 1: I gotta take off and because of his physical gifts,
[15:51] Speaker 1: he's really fast, he can move and he can throw
[15:53] Speaker 1: on the run a lot like Russell Wilson back in
[15:56] Speaker 1: the day with Seattle. He has those attributes, but sitting
[16:00] Speaker 1: in the pocket, countless throws over the middle of the
[16:02] Speaker 1: field throughout the game. He missed even the last pass
[16:06] Speaker 1: on that final drive where he hits Comet, which kind
[16:09] Speaker 1: of looked like it hit the ground. Comet made an
[16:11] Speaker 1: incredible effort. Is it cole like six four to sixty
[16:14] Speaker 1: five to one hand and above him. He's not a
[16:17] Speaker 1: naturally accurate player over the middle when he has to
[16:20] Speaker 1: play in rhythm. Also on that drive, what did he do?
[16:23] Speaker 1: He missed DJ Moore wide open in the corner. So
[16:26] Speaker 1: as the game went on, and we're not scripted, anymore.
[16:30] Speaker 1: And I can't just dink and dunk my way down
[16:32] Speaker 1: the field. I have to make some throws. I didn't
[16:34] Speaker 1: see it now, I'm not acting like the guy some
[16:37] Speaker 1: scrub that. There's definitely stuff there. But this is what
[16:41] Speaker 1: we've talked about since the beginning with Ben Johnson. Their
[16:45] Speaker 1: styles are opposite of each other. Like as the game
[16:48] Speaker 1: went on, Kevin O'Connell, he's like, this is what I've
[16:50] Speaker 1: been looking for. This is Kirk Cousin. Couldn't move Sam,
[16:55] Speaker 1: you know, just could freak out a little bit in
[16:58] Speaker 1: the pocket. And as the game went on, like, that's it.
[17:01] Speaker 1: That's the guy we wanted. Now, short sample size only
[17:04] Speaker 1: the fourth quarter Bears were gassed. I mean, he's got
[17:07] Speaker 1: a long way to go. It's a long season. But
[17:09] Speaker 1: if you're Kevin O'Connell, when you crack that cocktail or
[17:12] Speaker 1: beer on that flight home as you're watching the All
[17:15] Speaker 1: twenty two, you're gonna have a smile. Here to hear
[17:18] Speaker 1: you saw Ben Johnson look like he was seeing ghosts
[17:22] Speaker 1: or something like, what is happening here? What is going
[17:25] Speaker 1: on with my offense? We got Loveland, who's the top
[17:27] Speaker 1: ten pick. We got Cole Comet, who was a top
[17:30] Speaker 1: whatever one hundred pick, who's got a second contract. We
[17:33] Speaker 1: got rom A Doonsa. It was the ninth pick of
[17:34] Speaker 1: the draft. We got DJ Moore, who was essentially we
[17:37] Speaker 1: traded instead of getting an extra first round pick from Carolina,
[17:40] Speaker 1: we got Dj Moore. We accumulated all these offensive linemen,
[17:43] Speaker 1: and our offense fucking blows. Now. I get it first
[17:47] Speaker 1: real game, but man, as the game went on, it
[17:51] Speaker 1: felt like they had no shot and Caleb kind of
[17:54] Speaker 1: gets out of rhythm and the whole thing kind of
[17:56] Speaker 1: falls apart. So the Bears defense is gonna be solid.
[18:00] Speaker 1: Dennis Allen's a good defensive coordinator. There's no disputing the
[18:03] Speaker 1: offensive weapons on the Bears, but sometimes just off now
[18:07] Speaker 1: you can say, hey, it's the same thing. This happens
[18:09] Speaker 1: to the Bears all the time. The main difference between
[18:13] Speaker 1: these two teams is JJ McCarthy is Kevin O'Connell's guy.
[18:18] Speaker 1: And in pro sports that really matters, especially when it
[18:23] Speaker 1: comes to the NFL and it draft picks, specifically quarterbacks.
[18:27] Speaker 1: That is my guy. I will run through a wall
[18:30] Speaker 1: and do anything for him. You see it all over
[18:33] Speaker 1: the league, right. Obviously, when people have success, Andy and
[18:36] Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. But even through the struggles of twenty four
[18:40] Speaker 1: hours ago in Denver, bo Nicks is Sean Payton's guy,
[18:45] Speaker 1: brock Perty is Kyle Shanahan's guy. Kevin O'Connell and JJ
[18:49] Speaker 1: McCarthy are tied and connected at the hip, no different
[18:52] Speaker 1: than Adam Peters and Dan Quinn with Jaden Daniels. Ben
[18:56] Speaker 1: Johnson did in draft this guy and listen because I
[18:59] Speaker 1: didn't described to the substack. I couldn't read the last
[19:02] Speaker 1: article of the three part series. But you lose games
[19:07] Speaker 1: the offense sputters. This is when you get problems, and
[19:11] Speaker 1: the other thing is internally in the locker room. The
[19:13] Speaker 1: defensive guy's gotta be going. We played our ass off
[19:17] Speaker 1: our all pro corner didn't even play to night, and
[19:20] Speaker 1: we were dominating this game. We were making this guy
[19:23] Speaker 1: look like he should have been a practice squad quarterback.
[19:27] Speaker 1: We were kicking his ass, and instead of being up
[19:30] Speaker 1: seventeen to six, if we had a little more juice
[19:33] Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball, maybe we're up
[19:35] Speaker 1: twenty eight to six. And we're up so much that
[19:38] Speaker 1: even if JJ is mentally tough and Kevin O'Connell is
[19:41] Speaker 1: an exceptional coach. They don't have enough firepower to come back.
[19:45] Speaker 1: It's not even possible. But because the offense did nothing,
[19:48] Speaker 1: they were still in the game. And I saw to
[19:51] Speaker 1: Night one team with a brand new quarterback. Caleb has
[19:54] Speaker 1: all those starts last year, right, So early in the
[19:58] Speaker 1: game you saw JJ deering the headline. He first NFL
[20:01] Speaker 1: start on the road Chicago, Like not an easy spot.
[20:04] Speaker 1: Caleb as seventeen starts last season, right, so it's yeah,
[20:07] Speaker 1: he was much more calm, much more in control. But
[20:10] Speaker 1: then the game goes and the script's thrown out the window.
[20:13] Speaker 1: You're calling plays, you're audibling flores is, you know, dialing
[20:16] Speaker 1: up different blitz is, different pressures. They got guys moving
[20:18] Speaker 1: all over and it's like, I don't know what's going on.
[20:21] Speaker 1: And that's Chicago of just like this is something in
[20:24] Speaker 1: a monitor. I'm not jumping off this hill because I
[20:28] Speaker 1: think it's I think it's got an opportunity to get weird,
[20:31] Speaker 1: and it's got an opportunity to get weird. This weekend,
[20:33] Speaker 1: going back into Detroit, who just got curb stopped by
[20:37] Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, thoroughly embarrassed. I haven't had a
[20:40] Speaker 1: chance to watch any of Dan Campbell's press conferences, but
[20:43] Speaker 1: I can't imagine after the game on Sunday he was
[20:45] Speaker 1: pretty hot. He's gonna be really motivated. We've seen a
[20:48] Speaker 1: lot of clips over the years of like the hard
[20:50] Speaker 1: knock stuff behind the scenes of him at just in
[20:53] Speaker 1: front of the team. This is gonna be a big
[20:56] Speaker 1: moment for him, especially with Ben Johnson coming back. So
[21:00] Speaker 1: the Bears better be really careful. Before you blink, it
[21:03] Speaker 1: could be oh and two. So massive, massive win for Minnesota,
[21:08] Speaker 1: massive gut check for JJ McCarthy. And if you're a
[21:10] Speaker 1: Vikings fan, I would be sleeping pretty well. And if
[21:16] Speaker 1: I'm a Bears fan, I go, what the hell? Man?
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[23:11] Speaker 1: speaking about a guy that just wins. I think most
[23:16] Speaker 1: people in life it is it's much easier to go
[23:21] Speaker 1: no and just say no and take the conservative route, Like, yeah,
[23:26] Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ask her out. She'll probably say no.
[23:29] Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna call this guy. He probably won't,
[23:32] Speaker 1: you know, be interested in what I'm selling. You know.
[23:35] Speaker 1: It's like I could take this job, but I gotta move,
[23:38] Speaker 1: and it's like I like my life, I like my gig.
[23:40] Speaker 1: Now it's a great opportunity. Most human beings just naturally
[23:45] Speaker 1: take the easy route slash convince themselves to go the
[23:50] Speaker 1: conservative way. It's human nature. I'm guilty of this too.
[23:53] Speaker 1: We all are. There is a small percentage of people
[23:57] Speaker 1: that one percent never think that way, and their first
[24:01] Speaker 1: reaction is always like why not, why can't we do it?
[24:05] Speaker 1: Let's do it? How can we do it? What do
[24:08] Speaker 1: we have to do to get there? And I had
[24:09] Speaker 1: a front row seat for two years. When I got
[24:12] Speaker 1: hired from Fresno State to the Philadelphia Eagles. I had
[24:15] Speaker 1: never been around a guy like Howlie Roseman never in
[24:19] Speaker 1: my whatever twenty five years of life to that point
[24:21] Speaker 1: in time, the aggressive nature just how it was one
[24:25] Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour every moment we were in the office,
[24:29] Speaker 1: and it was an incredible learning experience for me. I
[24:32] Speaker 1: felt like I was drinking out of a fire hose
[24:34] Speaker 1: because even when I was around other football people previous places,
[24:38] Speaker 1: it was like, ah, yeah, we're not going to get
[24:40] Speaker 1: that guy. We don't need to waste time doing that.
[24:41] Speaker 1: That was never tolerated in Philadelphia. It was a mentality
[24:46] Speaker 1: of looking at minimum every rock and even once you
[24:50] Speaker 1: pull up that rock and look under, look on the
[24:52] Speaker 1: other side as well. And Jay Glazer came out on
[24:56] Speaker 1: Fox's Morning show and gave a report Maybe it was
[25:00] Speaker 1: out there, but I hadn't seen it that said that
[25:03] Speaker 1: Howie Roseman aggressively tried to trade for Micah Parsons and
[25:07] Speaker 1: actually had a better offer than the Green Bay Packers. Now,
[25:10] Speaker 1: obviously Jerry Jones, you know, would probably fold the franchise
[25:13] Speaker 1: before he was gonna trade Micah Parsons to the Eagles. Now,
[25:16] Speaker 1: I do think if Howie would have added like three
[25:19] Speaker 1: first round picks or comes to a point where yeah,
[25:21] Speaker 1: your fans are gonna hate you. Everyone's gonna want you
[25:24] Speaker 1: to sell the team and hate you until the day
[25:26] Speaker 1: you die. But the deal, if you were gonna be
[25:29] Speaker 1: willing to trade him, you would have to trade him.
[25:30] Speaker 1: But you know, the deal was close enough that you
[25:32] Speaker 1: trade him to the Green Bay Packers. And then today
[25:35] Speaker 1: I look up and how he's traded for a running
[25:36] Speaker 1: back just out of the blue, because Tank Bigsby the
[25:40] Speaker 1: running back in Jacksonville. Obviously ETN had a big first
[25:44] Speaker 1: game for Liam Cohen and they got a backup from
[25:49] Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. It feels like he's just not in the mix.
[25:52] Speaker 1: So how he's like, yeah, we'll give a fifth and
[25:53] Speaker 1: a six round pick for a guy that was drafting
[25:55] Speaker 1: the third round a couple of years ago. So does
[25:57] Speaker 1: this guy ever stop doing deals the NFL. This is
[26:01] Speaker 1: not baseball where it's like, yeah, you know, the Dodgers
[26:04] Speaker 1: have eight hundred million dollars, The Mets can give Juan
[26:07] Speaker 1: Soto three billion dollars, right the Yankees like, oh, they
[26:10] Speaker 1: just signed another guy for five hundred million dollars. There
[26:13] Speaker 1: is a group of six or seven teams that can
[26:15] Speaker 1: do that, and no one else has a shot. Even
[26:17] Speaker 1: in basketball, the Clippers, the Lakers, the Warriors, they can
[26:22] Speaker 1: sign guys to go over thresholds to then pay luxury
[26:27] Speaker 1: tax the Knicks that other teams cannot. So it's not
[26:32] Speaker 1: really equal team to team. Yet in football, if Mike
[26:37] Speaker 1: Brown wanted to trade two first round picks and give
[26:40] Speaker 1: Micah Parsons the eight hundred or the one hundred and
[26:42] Speaker 1: eighty eight million dollars, he could have done that. He
[26:45] Speaker 1: chose not to. And it does feel like there are
[26:48] Speaker 1: a lot of teams out here. And listen, I'm not
[26:50] Speaker 1: saying that how he's right on every deal he makes,
[26:53] Speaker 1: No one can be. But why is he involved in
[26:56] Speaker 1: every single deal in all these other teams, especially in
[26:59] Speaker 1: the AFC, where it's pretty equal, If you have one
[27:01] Speaker 1: of the top six or seven quarterbacks and they're never involved,
[27:04] Speaker 1: they're never ever involved. I understand if you don't have
[27:09] Speaker 1: a quarterback situated yet right to blow the first round
[27:12] Speaker 1: picks totally. But if you have, if you're the Bengals, well,
[27:16] Speaker 1: Hendrickson's gonna walk next year, you just draft Shamar Stewart.
[27:19] Speaker 1: We have no clue. If the guy can play, why
[27:21] Speaker 1: weren't you heavily involved of course that's not how they operate,
[27:25] Speaker 1: because they operate like the guy, Oh, we don't need
[27:27] Speaker 1: to do that, We just need the picks. We'll just now,
[27:30] Speaker 1: we'll just we'll figure it out later. Maybe we can
[27:32] Speaker 1: find a guy on the scrap heap in October. How
[27:35] Speaker 1: he's like, oh, Mike is not available. Do you think
[27:36] Speaker 1: Miles Garrett is and you have obviously he can't do
[27:40] Speaker 1: this solo. He needs the owner to sign off on this.
[27:44] Speaker 1: But the Eagles are operating at such an advantage right now
[27:46] Speaker 1: because their general manager, and again I've seen it firsthand,
[27:50] Speaker 1: is as aggressive of a human being is I'll ever
[27:53] Speaker 1: be around my entire life. And an owner that green
[27:56] Speaker 1: lights these moves from a financial standpoint, and the reason
[28:00] Speaker 1: doesn't get out because clearly, even if the Cowboys were
[28:02] Speaker 1: willing to negotiate, they probably wanted you know, they wanted
[28:06] Speaker 1: to run stuffing guys. So I'm sure they asked for
[28:08] Speaker 1: like Jordan Davis, and if you're how you don't want
[28:11] Speaker 1: that out there. But if they would have played ball,
[28:13] Speaker 1: Jordan Davis two one and a three would have been
[28:16] Speaker 1: there and Micah Parsons would have been an Eagle. And
[28:19] Speaker 1: I think we just need to stop being shocked like
[28:20] Speaker 1: he is making moves and doing stuff that half these
[28:24] Speaker 1: teams that should be way more involved just simply aren't.
[28:27] Speaker 1: It's why I give the Packers credit, because if the
[28:30] Speaker 1: Eagles are aggressively calling, you better be aggressively calling because
[28:33] Speaker 1: you just played them in a playoff game in round
[28:36] Speaker 1: one and kind of got worked. So if you want
[28:39] Speaker 1: to take this next step, and this is why they
[28:40] Speaker 1: did it, so props to Goudikins. But and the other
[28:44] Speaker 1: thing Jay Glazer said is no one in the AFC
[28:47] Speaker 1: was even interested, Like, hey, hey, Buffalo, I just watched
[28:50] Speaker 1: your defense. What the fuck was that? You know? Thank
[28:53] Speaker 1: god you have Josh Allen, who's basically like Lebron James
[28:57] Speaker 1: meets Steph Curry in football right now, because offensively you
[29:00] Speaker 1: could use some help. And I listen, I've supported Jerry
[29:05] Speaker 1: for making the trade, but I also support Green Bay
[29:08] Speaker 1: for pulling the trigger because especially in twenty twenty five,
[29:12] Speaker 1: like they just traded Kenny Clark straight up from Michael Parsons,
[29:15] Speaker 1: Like that's the deal. Those first round picks aren't relevant
[29:18] Speaker 1: till next year. So man, I mean, the Eagles just NonStop.
[29:22] Speaker 1: What a game this weekend Kansas city hosting the Eagles,
[29:26] Speaker 1: the Chiefs are an underdog at home. That's pretty crazy
[29:29] Speaker 1: to me. A couple more things. I think the Giants
[29:36] Speaker 1: are in a weird spot. You know, the consumer, the fan.
[29:41] Speaker 1: I know, these gms and executives and owners just hate
[29:45] Speaker 1: when they dictate the terms. It's like we're just starting
[29:48] Speaker 1: them because the fans are calling into Wfan, They're bitching
[29:52] Speaker 1: and moaning online. It's it's just NonStop and sometimes it's wrong. Right,
[29:58] Speaker 1: Usually the favorite player on an any bad team as
[30:01] Speaker 1: the backup quarterback. But in this situation, like people have
[30:05] Speaker 1: a lot of evidence with Russell Wilson, they've been watching
[30:08] Speaker 1: the guy for almost a decade and a half. This
[30:11] Speaker 1: is just some random player. Like they have seen the decline.
[30:15] Speaker 1: As Colin and I talked about, it's got to be
[30:17] Speaker 1: one of the more precipitous drop offs in the history
[30:20] Speaker 1: of the league. He went from being like an all pro,
[30:23] Speaker 1: pro Bowl level, playmaking, high end guy to be in
[30:27] Speaker 1: kind of a scrub really really quick. And it's not
[30:32] Speaker 1: all his fault why the Giants just lost to the Commanders,
[30:35] Speaker 1: But there's just when you watch him play, there's no
[30:38] Speaker 1: urgency to the way he moves anymore because he's athletically,
[30:41] Speaker 1: he's fallen off a cliff. His playmaking is basically zero.
[30:46] Speaker 1: And if we're gonna lose and just get worked week
[30:48] Speaker 1: in week out, and let's say the Cowboys beat him
[30:51] Speaker 1: by ten points, why are we watching this guy? And
[30:55] Speaker 1: this isn't basketball or baseball where it's like, well, we
[30:57] Speaker 1: got seventy more games. Even if we give it ten
[30:59] Speaker 1: more games, he's gonna get sixty games. You know. In
[31:02] Speaker 1: baseball he's gonna end up playing one hundred and twenty games.
[31:04] Speaker 1: There are only seventeen of these things. And day ball's
[31:07] Speaker 1: in this spot, where are they gonna keep you? Because
[31:11] Speaker 1: if you just watch that first game, even if you
[31:13] Speaker 1: like the guy and you think, listen, I think he's
[31:16] Speaker 1: gonna be right on Jackson Dart. As time goes, you
[31:18] Speaker 1: just lose enough games twenty one to six, your team
[31:20] Speaker 1: looks lifeless. Even if you throw them in November, it
[31:23] Speaker 1: might be too late. Now I've said I think the
[31:25] Speaker 1: over under is like this month. But every game that
[31:29] Speaker 1: goes by is an opportunity wasted. Because even if you're
[31:32] Speaker 1: losing games twenty four to ten, if Dart has a
[31:36] Speaker 1: couple JJ type moments, or even kleb type moments where
[31:39] Speaker 1: he scrambles around makes a sweet throw. People get off
[31:42] Speaker 1: your back, people start supporting you, especially when it gets
[31:46] Speaker 1: out because all the reports are Dable and Dart are
[31:50] Speaker 1: like this. I heard Jordan Renan say this my guy
[31:52] Speaker 1: that covers the New York Giants. When I was in Philly,
[31:55] Speaker 1: he was covering the Eagles. Then he's been on covering
[31:58] Speaker 1: this team for a long time. On Instagram. Within the
[32:01] Speaker 1: last week he was doing like a radio hit or
[32:03] Speaker 1: maybe his podcast, and he said, when you go to practice,
[32:06] Speaker 1: there's Jamis and Russell and they're usually throwing doing stuff,
[32:10] Speaker 1: and then there's Brian day Ball walking side by side,
[32:13] Speaker 1: stride by stride with Jackson Dart like he's his little
[32:16] Speaker 1: puppy duck. And so you're tied to this guy. But
[32:21] Speaker 1: the way these marriages become a divorce is you lose
[32:25] Speaker 1: enough games. It just gets ugly and it gets convoluted
[32:29] Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it's like, well I'm fired.
[32:31] Speaker 1: It's like, well that was my guy. Well, yeah, you
[32:33] Speaker 1: only saw him play ten games and your team was
[32:36] Speaker 1: already so bad by then, so I would get him
[32:39] Speaker 1: in way sooner than later. So when I see that
[32:42] Speaker 1: he comes out and says that Russell Wilson are starting quarterback.
[32:45] Speaker 1: I think that's a bad move. And so the opponent's
[32:48] Speaker 1: this the schedule, It's like, yeah, it's the NFL. It's hard,
[32:51] Speaker 1: whether you're on the road, whether you're away, whether you're
[32:53] Speaker 1: playing the Jags, or whether you're playing the Chiefs. All
[32:55] Speaker 1: these games are hard. And any guy on the other team,
[32:58] Speaker 1: they get paid a lot of money, They drive big
[33:00] Speaker 1: as cars, and they live in big homes as well,
[33:02] Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to He's gonna have to play
[33:05] Speaker 1: a tough opponent no matter what he comes from. The SEC.
[33:08] Speaker 1: He wasn't playing at UC Davis. You know, this guy's
[33:11] Speaker 1: used to playing some tough defensive players. So I think
[33:14] Speaker 1: it'll be okay. And last but not least, I actually
[33:19] Speaker 1: had the audio. It's, you know, the one cool part
[33:23] Speaker 1: about having four box games. Even if you have two
[33:27] Speaker 1: TVs and you got like six or eight games going
[33:29] Speaker 1: at one time, you keep track, even though it is difficult.
[33:33] Speaker 1: You can follow a lot, but you can only listen
[33:36] Speaker 1: to one audio, right. You can't have all eight going.
[33:39] Speaker 1: You can't even have two going, so you basically have
[33:41] Speaker 1: to pick one audio and for most of at least
[33:45] Speaker 1: I would say sixty seventy percent of the morning I
[33:49] Speaker 1: had on Kevin Burkhart and Tom Brady. And I was
[33:52] Speaker 1: pretty critical of Tom Brady last year, even though probably
[33:56] Speaker 1: unfair given the first time he's ever called games. But
[33:59] Speaker 1: part of that is the expectation and get paid four
[34:01] Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. Our expectations were high, especially because your
[34:05] Speaker 1: teammates are so famous. All I've ever heard for twenty
[34:10] Speaker 1: years like this is the coolest dude ever. Everyone loves
[34:14] Speaker 1: this guy. He can relate to the star player, to
[34:17] Speaker 1: the owner, to the practice squad guy. I've never heard
[34:19] Speaker 1: of bad things said about him. I've never heard and
[34:21] Speaker 1: I've known countless guys that have played with Tom Brady
[34:24] Speaker 1: and everyone speaks about him. I'd say the same thing
[34:27] Speaker 1: about Philip Rivers. There are certain quarterbacks Matt Stafford, Peyton Manning.
[34:31] Speaker 1: You're just gonna struggle to find anyone, whether they were
[34:34] Speaker 1: a highly paid guy or like a fringe practice squad
[34:37] Speaker 1: guy for a couple of years ago that serviced them
[34:39] Speaker 1: in practice bad amount. These guys because they're just they're
[34:43] Speaker 1: very relatable and good with people. That's what you have
[34:46] Speaker 1: to be as a quarterback natural leader. Well, being a
[34:48] Speaker 1: leader is like being able to resonate and deal with
[34:51] Speaker 1: different guys. And in the NFL you got guys from
[34:54] Speaker 1: all over the country, all different backgrounds, and obviously all
[34:57] Speaker 1: different economic statuses. When they're in the NFL, some guys
[35:00] Speaker 1: are making not much relative to other guys making millions
[35:03] Speaker 1: upon millions of dollars. And Tom was just it was,
[35:07] Speaker 1: it was rough. I watched him, he felt a lot
[35:09] Speaker 1: more comfortable. And obviously the where I went to school
[35:14] Speaker 1: at cal polyly the motto is learned by doing, And
[35:18] Speaker 1: while it is kind of cheesy, it does suit me.
[35:20] Speaker 1: Some people can learn by just studying a textbook and
[35:24] Speaker 1: go and take a test. I was a terrible standardized
[35:27] Speaker 1: test taker. I'm not great. Academia didn't serve me great
[35:31] Speaker 1: because sitting me at a desk and showing me power
[35:33] Speaker 1: points and then just having me regurgitate that I check
[35:36] Speaker 1: out two minutes in. But when I do something hands on,
[35:40] Speaker 1: whatever that may be, it gives me a way better
[35:42] Speaker 1: opportunity to learn. So I've been doing podcasts and I've
[35:45] Speaker 1: been doing radio now for a decade. And the more
[35:48] Speaker 1: you do anything, the more comfortable you get. I've never
[35:51] Speaker 1: done national TV, but I went and did colin this
[35:53] Speaker 1: summer and it wasn't intimidating. Why because I've been talking
[35:56] Speaker 1: about this stuff with a mic or a you know,
[35:59] Speaker 1: an ear whatever in the local level, national level. It
[36:03] Speaker 1: just becomes easier the more you do it. And listen
[36:05] Speaker 1: to Tom Brady, like, is he Trey Aikman? No, Treykman's
[36:08] Speaker 1: been doing it for twenty five years. But did he
[36:11] Speaker 1: sound more comfortable in the booth? He did? And like, hell,
[36:14] Speaker 1: I was listening to JJ Watt, who sounded a little
[36:17] Speaker 1: green now in fairness first game he's doing. Now. I
[36:20] Speaker 1: struggle like personally what I like in my broadcaster. You know,
[36:24] Speaker 1: whatever a broadcaster says, you know, it's gonna be very
[36:26] Speaker 1: hard for me to be critical. It's like, well, no
[36:29] Speaker 1: one's expecting you to be like Steven A or Skip Bayless.
[36:32] Speaker 1: You don't just need a shit on everyone every play.
[36:35] Speaker 1: But like, there's millions of people watching, and when something
[36:38] Speaker 1: really stupid happens, you kind of got to embrace it
[36:41] Speaker 1: and listen. You know, JJ's calling his brother's game. Kind
[36:44] Speaker 1: of a weird spot, but it was a very positive broadcast.
[36:47] Speaker 1: You know, I lean like I like my broadcast to
[36:50] Speaker 1: let some singers go. Aikman's a little more my style.
[36:54] Speaker 1: Collinsworth is. You know, he's just good at his job,
[36:57] Speaker 1: pretty positive, upbeat guy. But there's a different strug for
[37:00] Speaker 1: different folks. I do think whatever version of Brady that
[37:04] Speaker 1: he was on Sunday and just can be moving forward.
[37:09] Speaker 1: He's never gonna be John Madden or John Rude. I
[37:11] Speaker 1: wouldn't call him like an entertainer, but he could just
[37:15] Speaker 1: be a functional Obviously, he's really famous. Guy knows his shit,
[37:20] Speaker 1: knows all these guys can just be solid. Because someone
[37:22] Speaker 1: tweeted at me like it's like Jason Garrett two point zero, No,
[37:27] Speaker 1: Tom is way way. Jason Garrett's the worst broadcaster, worst
[37:32] Speaker 1: guy on television. When it comes to the NFL games,
[37:35] Speaker 1: And when NBC comes up and you see his smile
[37:39] Speaker 1: ear to ear and that redhead, you just want to
[37:42] Speaker 1: throw something into television. You're like, in what world did
[37:46] Speaker 1: this NBC executive tell themselves that America wants to see
[37:50] Speaker 1: this individual? I can't get over it. But they view
[37:54] Speaker 1: Jason Garrett as a star and he's terrible. And even
[37:57] Speaker 1: Drew Brees I saw he was saying that he got
[38:00] Speaker 1: the opportunity to call games, he'd be a top three guy.
[38:03] Speaker 1: It's like Drew, we heard you last year, a couple
[38:05] Speaker 1: of years ago. It wasn't great, you know. I mean,
[38:08] Speaker 1: we've heard enough guys not saying you can't improve, you
[38:11] Speaker 1: can't be better, but top three guy, like, no, I
[38:14] Speaker 1: bought the brakes. Everybody, it's this, this is entertainment and
[38:17] Speaker 1: that's the one thing Brady can he Ever, it's probably
[38:20] Speaker 1: hard because he doesn't want to throw in an F
[38:22] Speaker 1: word or something. Just kind of balance the football knower,
[38:26] Speaker 1: the guy that knows coaches and the players are all
[38:29] Speaker 1: texting them and he just knows his shit to then
[38:32] Speaker 1: also be like the guys guy and that's what you know,
[38:34] Speaker 1: the Maddens, the Grudens, they were just great entertainers. And
[38:40] Speaker 1: it's hard. It's it's why most, let's face it, most broadcasts,
[38:44] Speaker 1: if you're just clicking around the audio on and I'm
[38:47] Speaker 1: not acting like it's easy, like I have no I
[38:50] Speaker 1: respect the profession. People go, would you ever want to No,
[38:54] Speaker 1: I have no desire to do it. One. It's not
[38:57] Speaker 1: even fun to me, and I'm it is difficult. But
[39:01] Speaker 1: it's why when guys are good, they really really stand
[39:05] Speaker 1: out because you can balance kind of like having fun
[39:08] Speaker 1: but knowing your stuff, or are you just very comfortable
[39:11] Speaker 1: in your own skin? Like Aikman's pretty serious, but he'll
[39:14] Speaker 1: let a rip, you know, And he's one of the
[39:16] Speaker 1: few and honestly might be the only guy that will
[39:19] Speaker 1: be really really critical of coaches and players. But for
[39:22] Speaker 1: the most cart player like, you drop the ball, you
[39:24] Speaker 1: drop a ball, You know, what are you gonna say? Ceede, lamb,
[39:26] Speaker 1: he dropped another ball? Okay, Like, what do you want
[39:28] Speaker 1: to do? Cut him? I mean, he's one of the
[39:29] Speaker 1: best receivers in the league. Drop balls. It happens. Terrell
[39:32] Speaker 1: Owens didn't have great hands. Not everyone's Marvin Harrison, right,
[39:35] Speaker 1: Jerry Rice? Like, I mean, guys drop the ball. Fumbles,
[39:38] Speaker 1: they happen. Now you're gonna cut it tomorrow? Well, if
[39:40] Speaker 1: you started running BA, you're probably not going to. So
[39:43] Speaker 1: I think a lot of these guys, when they get
[39:45] Speaker 1: into it, they feel like we don't want to be critical.
[39:47] Speaker 1: Like I think you guys watch probably too much Internet
[39:51] Speaker 1: and too much like first take clips. That's not what
[39:54] Speaker 1: people expect. But when a coach says something stupid, you
[39:58] Speaker 1: can blast the coach and you should feel more room
[40:02] Speaker 1: to blast the coach than the players, because, let's face it,
[40:05] Speaker 1: a lot of the coaches you're either a coaching are
[40:07] Speaker 1: allowed to happen, right, So it's like Caleb to Night,
[40:10] Speaker 1: Was that on Caleb or is that on Ben Johnson?
[40:13] Speaker 1: Those questions are only going to a rise. I'll promise
[40:15] Speaker 1: you this. Ben Johnson is not gonna like it. Okay,
[40:31] Speaker 1: it's Monday. I thought, you know what, Let's do a
[40:33] Speaker 1: little mail bag at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff Instagram,
[40:36] Speaker 1: fire and those dms. Get your questions answered here on
[40:39] Speaker 1: the show. We will start with Michael. If Daniel Jones
[40:44] Speaker 1: continues to play like he did against Miami, do you
[40:48] Speaker 1: think that could influence the Giants to fire day ball
[40:51] Speaker 1: or maybe influence him to start dart earlier than expected
[40:55] Speaker 1: to help save his job. Well, he played Denver this week,
[40:59] Speaker 1: which I think is on the opposite end of Miami.
[41:02] Speaker 1: In terms of defense, Miami is a joke defensively, I
[41:05] Speaker 1: mean their corners. It's like, I mean, I don't even
[41:10] Speaker 1: think some of these guys would start on the best
[41:11] Speaker 1: defenses in college. I mean, it's pretty embarrassing. So going
[41:15] Speaker 1: against Denver is a completely different animal. And I'm not
[41:18] Speaker 1: gonna live on a weekly basis if I'm Giants' ownership.
[41:22] Speaker 1: If i'm I would say the coach or the GM
[41:25] Speaker 1: of the Giants like they made their decision, it was
[41:28] Speaker 1: the right decision when they cut them like it was
[41:30] Speaker 1: because he didn't. You know, the divorce made sense now
[41:34] Speaker 1: if you want to rewind it to the contract. Who
[41:37] Speaker 1: was behind the contract, who wanted the contract? Was that
[41:40] Speaker 1: led by ownership, which by all accounts it was. I
[41:43] Speaker 1: think there are a lot of variables here. But unless
[41:46] Speaker 1: the guy like like what Saquon did last year Super
[41:49] Speaker 1: Bowl two K number one player in the league, non quarterback,
[41:55] Speaker 1: that would look bad. But he's not gonna do that.
[41:57] Speaker 1: He was always gonna beat out Anthony Rigson dramatically better
[42:00] Speaker 1: than Anthony Richardson. So I honestly, I think it's a
[42:02] Speaker 1: bigger indictment on Anthony Richardson than it is on the Giants.
[42:06] Speaker 1: So I guess that's a long winded way of saying
[42:09] Speaker 1: I don't think it has much impact. With the Dolphins
[42:12] Speaker 1: looking like an absolute disaster. Do you think there is
[42:16] Speaker 1: any chance of a Baseball like fire sale where the
[42:20] Speaker 1: Fins trade offs a significant number of vets. Ed Rusher, Phillips,
[42:24] Speaker 1: Judon Chubb, a Chan Hill, Waddle are all positions of
[42:29] Speaker 1: needs for various contenders. Why don't more NFL teams make
[42:33] Speaker 1: significant roster reductions at the deadline like we see in
[42:37] Speaker 1: Major League Baseball or the NBA. I think the best
[42:43] Speaker 1: way I guess to approach it is in baseball A
[42:47] Speaker 1: lot of times, right, if I'm selling a guy, typically,
[42:51] Speaker 1: I'm like, the Pirates aren't gonna sell Paul Skins until
[42:55] Speaker 1: they have to pay him five hundred million dollars. Right
[42:57] Speaker 1: in football, I can pay whoever I want the lowest
[43:00] Speaker 1: quote unquote money teams relative to the quote unquote rich teams.
[43:05] Speaker 1: Everyone has money to pay their players. So if I
[43:08] Speaker 1: like Jalen Waddle, I've already paid Jalen Waddle, I want
[43:11] Speaker 1: Jalen Wattle on my roster if I'm gonna fire everybody
[43:14] Speaker 1: because the new coach is gonna want to work.
[43:15] Speaker 2: With that guy.
[43:17] Speaker 1: Same thing you know in theory with Chubb or some
[43:19] Speaker 1: of these guys. Now, like Tyreek Hill, what's his value?
[43:23] Speaker 1: I think it's it would vary team to team. I mean,
[43:26] Speaker 1: there are teams that are just not gonna mess with them. Now, like,
[43:29] Speaker 1: would Andy ever go down that road? I would guess no,
[43:32] Speaker 1: would the Bills. They need defense, so who's really messing
[43:38] Speaker 1: with him? The pass rushers and defensive lineman for sure.
[43:43] Speaker 1: But I just don't think that's how teams really think.
[43:46] Speaker 1: Occasionally like a fire sale with a veteran player. Remember
[43:50] Speaker 1: when they traded Von Miller, But that was because they
[43:52] Speaker 1: weren't going to resign him. So I think teams go,
[43:55] Speaker 1: we want to have assets on our team, And why
[43:59] Speaker 1: am I gonna Jalen Waddle, Who's one of the best
[44:01] Speaker 1: players on my team. If the best offers I'm getting
[44:04] Speaker 1: are like third round picks, even if I'm getting second
[44:07] Speaker 1: round picks. I drafted the guy high, he's been really productive,
[44:10] Speaker 1: why am I just giving him away to someone else?
[44:13] Speaker 1: So I don't need the cap flexibility. I want to
[44:16] Speaker 1: have good players on my team. So I think in
[44:19] Speaker 1: baseball it typically has to do with money. In basketball,
[44:27] Speaker 1: it doesn't happen as much as he used to, really,
[44:29] Speaker 1: unless the guy demands a trade. Question. After last night,
[44:33] Speaker 1: can the media and the talking heads finally have a
[44:35] Speaker 1: conversation about John Harbaugh. I've been saying for three years
[44:40] Speaker 1: we outplay the best teams, but get out coached every
[44:43] Speaker 1: single time. After last night and the other countless games
[44:47] Speaker 1: we've lost like this, I don't understand how he couldn't
[44:51] Speaker 1: be on the hot seat. I get it, it's week
[44:54] Speaker 1: one and it sounds like an overreaction, but a lot
[44:57] Speaker 1: of our fan base has been tired of Harball. Just
[45:01] Speaker 1: go on a Ravens page after a game, or go
[45:03] Speaker 1: to a Ravens game, and people are tired of him.
[45:06] Speaker 1: And just one quick example from last night, the offensive
[45:09] Speaker 1: drive where we could have ended the game, How is
[45:12] Speaker 1: a head coach? Are you okay with the play calling sequence?
[45:15] Speaker 1: A jet sweep on second and ten? When you run
[45:18] Speaker 1: that play four fucking times already, you got guys crowded
[45:21] Speaker 1: in the box? Unreal? Well, he's not the offensive play caller,
[45:26] Speaker 1: So that is where the CEO head coach sometimes, you know.
[45:32] Speaker 1: And he's a defensive guy. Listen. His resume speaks for itself.
[45:37] Speaker 1: He's won a lot of games. But I think we
[45:39] Speaker 1: need to now ask ourselves, like, they have an all
[45:43] Speaker 1: time great quarterback, they have an all time great organization.
[45:46] Speaker 1: Their team is always loaded. Like you're watching him last night,
[45:49] Speaker 1: You're like, God, they got good players everywhere even the
[45:52] Speaker 1: first round are a couple of years ago from Clemson Wiggins.
[45:54] Speaker 1: It's like they drafted that guy at the end of
[45:56] Speaker 1: the first round and he's just making plays out there
[46:00] Speaker 1: at dB. I mean, every single time they draft guys,
[46:03] Speaker 1: they're just good. So he has an organization that drafts
[46:07] Speaker 1: players at an extremely high level. They hit a home
[46:10] Speaker 1: run with the quarterback even making moves like Derrick Henry,
[46:14] Speaker 1: and it just goes like, how are they not winning.
[46:16] Speaker 2: A Super Bowl?
[46:17] Speaker 1: And I'm not betting on them to win a super
[46:19] Speaker 1: Bowl just because something about their organization. It's like losing
[46:24] Speaker 1: that game last night is kind of symbolic of the
[46:27] Speaker 1: John Harbaugh Lamar Jackson experience. Now you ain't firing Lamar Jackson.
[46:32] Speaker 1: My question is this, and this is where I think
[46:34] Speaker 1: these teams getting tough a tough spot. Let's say you
[46:37] Speaker 1: win thirteen games and you get knocked out in the
[46:40] Speaker 1: second round, the Bills, the Chiefs, whoever beat you. Who
[46:45] Speaker 1: are you hiring? Because I think that's always the pushback
[46:49] Speaker 1: is like who are you hiring? Because if I fire
[46:52] Speaker 1: John Harbaugh, what is the landscape of coaches last year?
[46:57] Speaker 1: Like are you firing John Harbaugh for Mike a probably
[47:00] Speaker 1: not very similar guys. I would say they kind of
[47:04] Speaker 1: carbon copy of the type coach, right, Ben Johnson, though
[47:09] Speaker 1: wagonet Ben Johnson with Lamar Jackson, I would have done that. Now,
[47:12] Speaker 1: you're not gonna fire him last year, But I think
[47:15] Speaker 1: that's the question you have to ask before we just
[47:18] Speaker 1: fire him, because you're not just gonna blindly fire John Harbaugh.
[47:22] Speaker 1: But that loss, and they had some of them last year.
[47:26] Speaker 1: You know, he's a defensive, tough guy, and sometimes their
[47:29] Speaker 1: teams just kind of fall apart. Now, I don't put
[47:31] Speaker 1: Dereck Henry fumbling on him. And you know, sometimes great
[47:35] Speaker 1: offense beats great defense nowadays in the NFL because of
[47:39] Speaker 1: the rules, right, I think the Ravens are pretty good
[47:42] Speaker 1: on defense, but there are certain rules and limitations that
[47:45] Speaker 1: you can't just decapitate people like you could back in
[47:47] Speaker 1: the day, So it makes comebacks more possible a lot
[47:50] Speaker 1: like in the NBA with a three point shot. You know,
[47:53] Speaker 1: I think in like two thousand and seven, you would
[47:57] Speaker 1: just be so physical that the Josh Allen they couldn't
[48:00] Speaker 1: have come back. But nowadays the rules on the side
[48:03] Speaker 1: of offense and just naturally sometimes teams let their guard down.
[48:07] Speaker 1: But he's going to become a really polarizing coach like
[48:11] Speaker 1: Sean mcdermals is pretty polarizing. And they're basically doing the
[48:15] Speaker 1: same thing. And if we just basically, well, you won
[48:17] Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, Well, yeah, back in twenty twelve. It's
[48:20] Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, twenty twelve. I works for the Philadelphia Eagles.
[48:26] Speaker 1: That was a long time ago, right, Think about what
[48:28] Speaker 1: you were doing in twenty twelve, some people, if you're
[48:31] Speaker 1: like twenty five, I mean, that would have been what
[48:34] Speaker 1: thirteen years you were like twelve years old. Didn't you
[48:38] Speaker 1: even have a hair on your arms or on your nuts.
[48:42] Speaker 1: I'm currently watching the Dolphins get boat raced by the Colts.
[48:46] Speaker 1: I think it's inevitable that they trade Tyreek this season,
[48:48] Speaker 1: though I don't think they will be able to get
[48:51] Speaker 1: quite the Hall that some might think given his age
[48:53] Speaker 1: and contract. Let me emphasize that they will not get
[48:57] Speaker 1: a hole for Tyreek. They would just be giving him away.
[49:02] Speaker 1: With Worthy going down Week one, and the Chiefs obviously
[49:05] Speaker 1: still amongst the best in the AFC, but may need
[49:08] Speaker 1: a little boost with the wide receiver injury suspensions. What
[49:11] Speaker 1: percent odds do you see are an in season trade
[49:14] Speaker 1: of Tyreek. Going back to the Chiefs, what kind of
[49:17] Speaker 1: trade package would the Chiefs have to give up for
[49:20] Speaker 1: a year or two of Tyreek? You never know. Things change,
[49:26] Speaker 1: and anytime that you come up short in the Super Bowl,
[49:30] Speaker 1: I think I saw the headline today. Worthy as day
[49:32] Speaker 1: to day. So it's not like he's gonna miss a
[49:35] Speaker 1: month like George Kittle today the hamstring injury. He's gonna
[49:38] Speaker 1: be out a month, that's gonna be, that's gonna be
[49:39] Speaker 1: a minute. You know, by all accounts, Worthy is not
[49:42] Speaker 1: gonna miss that much time. I was told pretty reliably.
[49:47] Speaker 1: I had safe to say, I know a lot of
[49:48] Speaker 1: people there that that's never happening again. Now this was
[49:53] Speaker 1: I don't know, eight months ago, just because like going
[49:57] Speaker 1: into the offseason, I was starting to think, like, could
[49:59] Speaker 1: they Tyreek get traded? Could the Chiefs get him for
[50:01] Speaker 1: like a third or fourth round pick? And I think
[50:04] Speaker 1: that ship sailed by all accounts. Now, you can never
[50:06] Speaker 1: say never. Andy could change his mind. Veach has a
[50:11] Speaker 1: lot of influence. Maybe he could talk him into it.
[50:13] Speaker 1: Maybe Veach is not that interested. And so I would
[50:18] Speaker 1: as sitting here on September eighth, I would say that's
[50:22] Speaker 1: not happening question for the back from Gilbert Arizona. My neighbor,
[50:28] Speaker 1: my buddy and I were debating what's better to have
[50:31] Speaker 1: Andy Reid, Sean mcvicveay, Kyle Shanahaner or Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes,
[50:36] Speaker 1: Burrow or Lamar. If you're starting a team from scratch
[50:40] Speaker 1: and you have the number one pick in a complete
[50:43] Speaker 1: do over, in a complete doover for the league, so
[50:46] Speaker 1: players and coaches can be taken, do you take the
[50:49] Speaker 1: quarterback or a coach? With the number one pick, you
[50:52] Speaker 1: would take the quarterback. You would one million percent take
[50:56] Speaker 1: the quarterback. Now at what quarterback? Do you yet? Where
[51:00] Speaker 1: you go? I'd rather have Andy Reid, and I think
[51:02] Speaker 1: you're talking like six or seven because the list you
[51:06] Speaker 1: gave it would be Mahomes, Alan, Lamar, Burrow in some order.
[51:11] Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would take Josh Allen
[51:13] Speaker 1: number one, but Mahomes. I think in everyone's order it
[51:19] Speaker 1: would go somewhat Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes or Patrick Mahomes
[51:23] Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Then I think Lamar and Burrow depending on
[51:27] Speaker 1: what type. I guess who's making this pick, a GM
[51:30] Speaker 1: or an owner because Lamar easily could go three, but
[51:34] Speaker 1: I think there would be some people taking Burrow, but regardless,
[51:36] Speaker 1: they would go four. I think Herbert and Jayden Daniels
[51:39] Speaker 1: in some order would go five and six. I think
[51:42] Speaker 1: once you got past them, it's like, would I rather
[51:46] Speaker 1: have Andy Reid or C. J. Strout. I'd rather have
[51:48] Speaker 1: Andy Reid? Would I rather have Kyle Shanahan or C. J.
[51:51] Speaker 2: Stratt.
[51:51] Speaker 1: I'd rather have Andy Reid, Dak Prescott, Jared Goff, Jalen Hurts,
[51:56] Speaker 1: Like would I rather have Jalen Hurts or Andy Reid?
[51:59] Speaker 1: Come on, Andy Reid, so as it shows you like
[52:03] Speaker 1: these guys. Jalen Hurts has won Super Bowl, played really well,
[52:06] Speaker 1: so I think that line gets drawn pretty quick. It's
[52:10] Speaker 1: only the quarterback quarterbacks that I know. One carry a coach.
[52:14] Speaker 1: If you need coaching with your quarterback like Jared Goff,
[52:18] Speaker 1: Jordan Love, all those type guys, I'm going coach because
[52:22] Speaker 1: would I rather have like Andy Reid with Dak Prescott,
[52:25] Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan with Brock Purty, or would I rather have
[52:29] Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts and Zach Taylor. The question was pre Chargers
[52:34] Speaker 1: game might not be the year for Kansas City. As
[52:37] Speaker 1: a Kansas City resident and fan. I'm devastated. Listen, they
[52:42] Speaker 1: played in that game a million times last year. Everyone
[52:45] Speaker 1: I've seen talk about that game going God, they just
[52:50] Speaker 1: didn't look that good. They kind of looked like they
[52:52] Speaker 1: did last year, like that's how they played. They're comfortable
[52:55] Speaker 1: in that environment. Now their defense was getting shredded. Not ideal.
[53:00] Speaker 1: I also think they don't you know, the way they
[53:02] Speaker 1: operate in the preseason. He gets after it. They're big
[53:05] Speaker 1: on peaking in November and December. Are you're probably gonna
[53:09] Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl? Odds would be stacked against you.
[53:11] Speaker 1: You're gonna make your six Super Bowl in seven years
[53:14] Speaker 1: or whatever? Probably not, but you're gonna be You're gonna
[53:16] Speaker 1: be good. You're gonna be okay. Coachings do good. Big
[53:20] Speaker 1: game this week. I think it's pretty insane that they're
[53:22] Speaker 1: an underdog at home against the Eagles.
[53:25] Speaker 2: That's pretty crazy.
[53:26] Speaker 1: I would expect the Chiefs to come out and play
[53:28] Speaker 1: pretty well. I like the Chiefs in that game. With
[53:32] Speaker 1: the NFL expanding and going more global than ever, do
[53:36] Speaker 1: you think there will ever be a time where there
[53:38] Speaker 1: is an eighteen game schedule with one international game every week.
[53:42] Speaker 1: If so, where could it end? Could there be could
[53:46] Speaker 1: there ever be an International super Bowl? Just curious in
[53:49] Speaker 1: your thoughts. I've been asked this question before. I do
[53:53] Speaker 1: think it's inevitable. When we get to eighteen games, there's
[53:55] Speaker 1: gonna be an international package. So basically like Thursday Night
[53:59] Speaker 1: Football starts this week and goes to like Christmas, so
[54:02] Speaker 1: basically every team. It used to be every team had
[54:04] Speaker 1: to play on Thursday Night Football. Now you can get
[54:07] Speaker 1: doubled up because of TV ratings. I do think it's
[54:10] Speaker 1: inevitable in the new television deal that starting week two
[54:13] Speaker 1: or week three up until probably a week before Christmas,
[54:17] Speaker 1: every team will play an international series. Now, the difference
[54:21] Speaker 1: between the international series and Thursday Night games. You know,
[54:23] Speaker 1: a team like Jacksonville or just Miami, whoever, East Coast
[54:28] Speaker 1: teams in London, in Germany and whatever could double up
[54:32] Speaker 1: and play back to back home games. But I do
[54:36] Speaker 1: think that the next television set up, however, that when
[54:39] Speaker 1: I say deal, I mean it's YouTube had seventeen million
[54:43] Speaker 1: people watching the game. What game would that have been?
[54:47] Speaker 1: That was a Chiefs game. Thursday Night Football had like
[54:51] Speaker 1: thirty million people, and that was down because there was
[54:53] Speaker 1: a big rain delay for an hour. Don't blame anyone
[54:55] Speaker 1: for turn it off. I would say this that, however, PLA,
[55:00] Speaker 1: he's out with Netflix, Amazon, Fox, ABCCBS a lot of
[55:04] Speaker 1: moving parts. Obviously, I think we get for fifteen straight
[55:09] Speaker 1: weeks a six thirty Pacific Standard time kickoff, which, as
[55:13] Speaker 1: someone on the West Coast I listen, I like getting
[55:16] Speaker 1: up Sunday morning. Now that you know, I've actually really
[55:20] Speaker 1: morphed as I've gotten older, Like I don't do anything
[55:22] Speaker 1: on Saturday night anymore. Those days are over because Sunday
[55:25] Speaker 1: is just too long of a day. I got to
[55:27] Speaker 1: be clear headed. I can't be hungover at all. So
[55:30] Speaker 1: I basically treat it like most human beings would treat
[55:32] Speaker 1: a Monday. And I'm out of bed at like six fifteen,
[55:35] Speaker 1: six thirty and try to be at the gym by
[55:37] Speaker 1: seven seven thirty, and because I want to do some
[55:40] Speaker 1: physical activity before I'm just sitting all day, which again
[55:44] Speaker 1: I'm not complaining about making money off watching football, but
[55:48] Speaker 1: like when you just sit on your couch for essentially
[55:51] Speaker 1: nine hours and do multiple podcasts, I gotta do some
[55:54] Speaker 1: activity in the morning, and I don't really have time
[55:56] Speaker 1: during the day because football's on, So I don't want
[55:59] Speaker 1: that morning game. Now, maybe I wouldn't even care anyway,
[56:01] Speaker 1: because sometimes they're on I'm not even paying attention. But
[56:04] Speaker 1: I do think it's inevitable, and I don't know if
[56:06] Speaker 1: that's what people want. But I don't want to speak
[56:09] Speaker 1: for everyone else because I'll tell you where I stand
[56:11] Speaker 1: on the Monday night doubleheader. I guess I understand it
[56:16] Speaker 1: from they can accumulate more total viewers. But I've thought
[56:20] Speaker 1: a huge part of about playing a primetime game Thursday night,
[56:23] Speaker 1: Sunday night, Monday night is getting it to yourself. That's
[56:26] Speaker 1: a really, really big deal. It used to be a
[56:29] Speaker 1: really big deal when I was at Fresne State that
[56:32] Speaker 1: the Mountain West Conference or the Whack Conference at the
[56:34] Speaker 1: time had contracts with ESPN for Friday night games. So
[56:38] Speaker 1: you would get a Friday night game against Boise, against
[56:40] Speaker 1: Nevada or whatever, and you were the only game on television.
[56:43] Speaker 1: So it was a really big selling point. It's like, hey,
[56:45] Speaker 1: we're just the only football game Friday night on television
[56:48] Speaker 1: around the country.
[56:49] Speaker 2: Well, that's clearly over.
[57:04] Speaker 1: Coming off the calf scare. Did you see Kyle run
[57:07] Speaker 1: CMC twenty two times and target him nine times in
[57:11] Speaker 1: the passing game? It's the most touches he's gotten since
[57:15] Speaker 1: Week fifteen in twenty twenty two. Does the guy even
[57:20] Speaker 1: make it to October? I know that was Robinson's first
[57:23] Speaker 1: game and his usage will go up, but holy shit, man,
[57:26] Speaker 1: do you think Kyle makes the same mistakes again driving
[57:28] Speaker 1: him into the ground. I sometimes the Niners can be
[57:31] Speaker 1: weird with injuries. Obviously they get injured a lot. But
[57:35] Speaker 1: for him to leave practice on Thursday and then Friday,
[57:38] Speaker 1: not really do anything, but then be interviewed after practice
[57:42] Speaker 1: on Friday and say I'm completely fine, and then like
[57:45] Speaker 1: you say, I mean, he counted for almost one hundred
[57:48] Speaker 1: and fifty yards in the passing game and in the
[57:49] Speaker 1: running game, and he has just taken shot after shot.
[57:53] Speaker 1: Kyle's not a big spread the wealth around. And I
[57:56] Speaker 1: appreciate Brian Robinson. I definitely liked him a couple of
[57:58] Speaker 1: years ago, and I'm not gonna make any overarching judgments
[58:02] Speaker 1: based on one performance. He looked a little slow to me.
[58:06] Speaker 1: I don't know if they traded for him to motivate
[58:08] Speaker 1: their other guy, Grendo, because Grendo last year, toward the
[58:10] Speaker 1: end of the season was coming on. He's a Blazer.
[58:12] Speaker 1: The big running back from Louisville, but they clearly just
[58:16] Speaker 1: traded for Brian Robinson immediately made him the two. I
[58:18] Speaker 1: thought there was one play on like a it was
[58:21] Speaker 1: like a pitch play where Trent Williams pulls. He's like
[58:24] Speaker 1: a left tackle and he pulls like basically kind of
[58:27] Speaker 1: like runs a loop toward the dB slash safety and
[58:31] Speaker 1: if Brian Robinson could cut it inside, he would have
[58:34] Speaker 1: been like a forty yard game. McCaffrey would have busted
[58:37] Speaker 1: out a big run. But he's ran into Trent who's
[58:39] Speaker 1: literally blocking the dB or safety into the like into
[58:44] Speaker 1: the water cooler. I mean he runs into him. So
[58:46] Speaker 1: wasn't that impressed. Again, Game one wins a win, but
[58:51] Speaker 1: their backup running back situation is atrocious. I understand the
[58:55] Speaker 1: criticism against the Patriots. They looked terrible in the second half. However,
[58:59] Speaker 1: I think putting too much blame on Drake May. He
[59:02] Speaker 1: threw forty six passes and in the first half they
[59:05] Speaker 1: were letting him throw ten to twenty yards down the field.
[59:08] Speaker 1: I think the bigger problem was their inability to run
[59:10] Speaker 1: the ball. For most of the second half. Henderson had
[59:14] Speaker 1: five carries that won't cut it. I think it's impossible
[59:17] Speaker 1: for young quarterbacks to succeed when the team abandons the run. Also,
[59:22] Speaker 1: the secondary was horrendous. Listen, here's what I'll say about
[59:26] Speaker 1: Drake May. He just didn't pass the eye test yesterday.
[59:30] Speaker 1: It doesn't mean he sucks. It doesn't mean that it
[59:33] Speaker 1: wasn't just an outlier bad game. My expectations were higher.
[59:38] Speaker 1: But I also said yesterday that I have just assumed
[59:43] Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels is a good play caller like Sean McVay,
[59:49] Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, Kyle Laflor. We have seen those guys work
[59:52] Speaker 1: with countless different quarterbacks, kind of tweaked their offense, change stuff,
[59:56] Speaker 1: make things happen. What if Josh McDaniels is only good
[1:00:00] Speaker 1: with Tom Brady, but if that's the only way he
[1:00:03] Speaker 1: can operate, that's very possible, right. And Drake May's downfall
[1:00:13] Speaker 1: might be that he got Josh mcganial's forced on him,
[1:00:15] Speaker 1: because let's be real, that wasn't Rabel's guy. That was
[1:00:19] Speaker 1: the Crafts And part of getting a job like Mike
[1:00:22] Speaker 1: got is like you're not gonna battle the owner in
[1:00:25] Speaker 1: the quote unquote boss on everything. Some things you give
[1:00:28] Speaker 1: in on, and it's like who were his options. He
[1:00:31] Speaker 1: couldn't get Arthur Smith, he couldn't get some of his guys.
[1:00:33] Speaker 1: So he's like, yeah, we'll just it's in theory, it
[1:00:36] Speaker 1: makes some sense. But what if Drake too much is
[1:00:39] Speaker 1: on his plate. He just there's something like, I don't
[1:00:44] Speaker 1: want to say unnatural, but something was just missing. Again,
[1:00:48] Speaker 1: doesn't define his career. My expectations for him might have
[1:00:52] Speaker 1: been unfairly high. But I just saw a guy that
[1:00:57] Speaker 1: just wasn't like a little robotic, wasn't that fluid making play,
[1:01:00] Speaker 1: just looked a little out of sorts. Now he doesn't
[1:01:03] Speaker 1: have the most talented group around him. As someone DM me.
[1:01:07] Speaker 1: Will Campbell looked like a tiny little dude getting smoked.
[1:01:11] Speaker 1: Now he was banged up too, But yeah, I mean
[1:01:15] Speaker 1: the Raiders worked him. I mean, think about it, and
[1:01:17] Speaker 1: Colin and I talked about this. The Raiders have the
[1:01:20] Speaker 1: best player in the game. They had the second best
[1:01:21] Speaker 1: player in the game. They had the quarterback advantage, Like
[1:01:24] Speaker 1: Gino is a much better player right now than Drake
[1:01:27] Speaker 1: may Honestly, it's not even close. Raiders offensive line is
[1:01:31] Speaker 1: playing well. Raiders are just better coached. But I got
[1:01:36] Speaker 1: Chip Kelly out here scheming guys open left and right.
[1:01:39] Speaker 1: He hasn't worked in the NFL in forever. And Skinny
[1:01:42] Speaker 1: Josh the Patriot guys, I'll get on ozembic once you
[1:01:47] Speaker 1: know Patricia's on it. McDaniel's clearly on it. These guys
[1:01:52] Speaker 1: lose a ton of weight. Still can't call play. Patricia can,
[1:01:58] Speaker 1: but he's got a little easier at all House morning.
[1:02:02] Speaker 1: Maybe the Lions should try to snag Mike McDaniel for
[1:02:05] Speaker 1: the OC when he's fired. I feel like I'm beating
[1:02:10] Speaker 1: a dead horse here. I don't know the guy. This
[1:02:12] Speaker 1: is nothing against him personally, feels like football guys really
[1:02:17] Speaker 1: like him. But why would they never make Johnny Moore
[1:02:20] Speaker 1: in their offensive coordinator? Sean Payton loved him, John Gruden
[1:02:23] Speaker 1: loved him. Well, why didn't they make this guy their
[1:02:25] Speaker 1: offensive coordinator? Now he's fifty five and he takes over
[1:02:28] Speaker 1: this offense that everyone's like, oh, she's a loaded offense.
[1:02:32] Speaker 1: And he realized, well, they lost their center to a retirement,
[1:02:36] Speaker 1: they lost a guard to the Titans, so there's only
[1:02:39] Speaker 1: five guys on the offensive line. So I just removed
[1:02:42] Speaker 1: forty percent of it. And there was a big part
[1:02:44] Speaker 1: of like the ingenuity, creativity, and just instincts of Ben
[1:02:48] Speaker 1: Johnson that made the operation pretty special. Remember when they
[1:02:52] Speaker 1: did the fake fumble because Jordan Love against the Bears
[1:02:56] Speaker 1: tripped and fell and everyone froze and then he got
[1:02:58] Speaker 1: up and he threw the touchdown. And Ben Johnson tried to,
[1:03:02] Speaker 1: you know, replicate that same thing with Jared Goff and
[1:03:04] Speaker 1: he told him to fumble on purpose and then Gof's like, oh,
[1:03:07] Speaker 1: I can't fumble on purpose. He's like, well, can you
[1:03:09] Speaker 1: kind of fall halfway? And then kind of figured it out,
[1:03:11] Speaker 1: like is Johnny Morton bringing that to the table. And
[1:03:13] Speaker 1: here's the other thing whenever I hear because I saw
[1:03:15] Speaker 1: Dan Campbell say this in an interview sometime during training camp.
[1:03:20] Speaker 1: He was bragging and I don't mean this like he
[1:03:24] Speaker 1: wasn't trying to hype the guy up. He was just saying,
[1:03:26] Speaker 1: it's it's crazy how often Johnny Morton is in the facility,
[1:03:32] Speaker 1: essentially saying he's got like the Grudini him. He's there
[1:03:35] Speaker 1: at the crack of dawn, like, I do not care.
[1:03:38] Speaker 1: I have never once been told how many hours Ben
[1:03:41] Speaker 1: Johnson works. Probably works a lot, but it does not matter. Honestly,
[1:03:46] Speaker 1: Sometimes that scares me, Like you're not smart enough, Like
[1:03:49] Speaker 1: you're there at three am to twelve pm, are you
[1:03:51] Speaker 1: not good enough? Because if you're working that long at
[1:03:55] Speaker 1: this point in time in your career and not moving
[1:03:58] Speaker 1: up the ladder like I just got your red flat, Like,
[1:04:01] Speaker 1: I do think defensively they will be okay. We have
[1:04:05] Speaker 1: seen this transition. We saw in Baltimore high level defensive coordinator.
[1:04:10] Speaker 1: They go with the former player and it just takes
[1:04:13] Speaker 1: a little time, but it works out. So I do
[1:04:15] Speaker 1: think same type deal Aaron Glenn, who's also a former player,
[1:04:19] Speaker 1: that they go with the linebacker coach, former player. I
[1:04:22] Speaker 1: do think it's gonna be okay offensively though that is
[1:04:25] Speaker 1: not like because part of defense motivation, toughness, obviously you
[1:04:30] Speaker 1: got to have the schematics. But I think they'll be
[1:04:34] Speaker 1: okay offensively. I would be terrified. Do you think there's
[1:04:37] Speaker 1: a chance that Nick Saban would go to Florida in
[1:04:41] Speaker 1: light of Billy's struggles and inability to cement himself in
[1:04:44] Speaker 1: the program. I think Saban's done, you know. I think
[1:04:48] Speaker 1: the big difference for like Pete Carroll and obviously Bill,
[1:04:52] Speaker 1: if Atlanta would have hired him, I think, deep down,
[1:04:56] Speaker 1: like the business didn't change, so they just thought like, hey,
[1:05:00] Speaker 1: I ran Its course, I got fired. Whatever, I still
[1:05:02] Speaker 1: want to coach in the NFL. The salary cap trades
[1:05:06] Speaker 1: the draft like fair, not like they believe they can
[1:05:10] Speaker 1: do it. You know, Belichick believes it's funny. I had
[1:05:14] Speaker 1: so many people texting me like, do you think you
[1:05:17] Speaker 1: pissed them off? Like piss them off, guys. They're embracing this.
[1:05:21] Speaker 1: They hate Bill and Lombardi hate the NFL right now,
[1:05:25] Speaker 1: especially the Patriots. This was not some story. If I
[1:05:29] Speaker 1: had leaked let's say, like a month ago, and I'm not.
[1:05:32] Speaker 1: Let's say let's say I texted Howie. I'm like, hey,
[1:05:35] Speaker 1: you want Micah Parsons. He's like, yeah, I'm trying to
[1:05:37] Speaker 1: get him right now. Jerry will never trade him to us.
[1:05:40] Speaker 1: But I'm throwing some I'm throwing some stuff on the table.
[1:05:43] Speaker 1: I put aj Brown and two ones on the table.
[1:05:46] Speaker 1: I'm just let's just hypothetically. Obviously it didn't happen. But
[1:05:50] Speaker 1: let's say I just put that out there. Well, how
[1:05:53] Speaker 1: he would be furious. He's like, you can't I told
[1:05:55] Speaker 1: you that in confidence. This is not These people didn't
[1:05:58] Speaker 1: tell me this. This just Bill who hates the Patriots,
[1:06:03] Speaker 1: and every human knows. This isn't something people are trying
[1:06:05] Speaker 1: to hide. This isn't some under the wrap story. So
[1:06:09] Speaker 1: like Saban has said, like I don't like get l
[1:06:12] Speaker 1: This thing ain't fair, and I think the SEC programs
[1:06:16] Speaker 1: and he mentioned this on College Game Day are at
[1:06:18] Speaker 1: a disadvantage. It's why in theory, like North Carolina they
[1:06:21] Speaker 1: got some big pockets. But you know, is Belichick gonna
[1:06:25] Speaker 1: be a tightwad and not pay the guy's money. But
[1:06:27] Speaker 1: he's not coming back. I think Saban's retired for good.
[1:06:30] Speaker 1: Other than that, Yeah, we'll wrap up on that one.
[1:06:34] Speaker 1: So Billy Napier, start packing that office right now, Buddy.
[1:06:40] Speaker 1: The volume

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