# Prime Cuts - Is Scheffler The Next Tiger? Caitlin Clark Will Get WNBA Players PAID, Saban To The NFL?

An episode of [The Colin Cowherd Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1551365571), 26 Jul 2025, 40 min.

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Colin’s top takes of the week! First, he’s joined by Danny Parkins, co-host of “First Things First” on FS1! They start with the WNBA and their public compensation dispute with the players, and that despite losing money for years…why the league should pay the players as its trajectory soars in the Caitlin Clark era (3:30). They compare the ratings draw of Caitlin Clark games to other sports that rate similarly, and those are all billion dollar industries (6:00). They discuss the major changes made to college football in recent years, and why the upside outweighs the downsides (12:15) and argue that parity in the NFl is generally a myth. They point out the predictability of knowing which teams will win their divisions, and that even the “surprise” teams aren’t usually surprising (18:30). Finally, they debate the Bears prospects in an NFC North division that has seen major reshuffling (20:00) Then, Colin is joined by John Middlekauff, host of “3 and Out” and “Go Low” to debate how Scottie Scheffler stacks up to Tiger Woods after winning the Open Championship (28:30) and whether we could see Nick Saban returning to coaching… in the NFL (36:00) (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) Follow Colin and The Volume on Twitter for the latest content and updates! #Volume See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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[0:55] Speaker 1: to bring him on about once a month. We've got
[0:56] Speaker 1: some personal news for him that we're gonna circle back
[0:59] Speaker 1: and talk about this and a bit. I want to
[1:01] Speaker 1: start about a story that sometimes in this business, they're
[1:07] Speaker 1: little shifts all the time in every business, right, little shifts,
[1:10] Speaker 1: and in our business, August used to be a pretty
[1:14] Speaker 1: fruitful month. You talked to a lot of NFL. NFL
[1:18] Speaker 1: quarterbacks played at least a little. They played a lot
[1:20] Speaker 1: in Week three, and then Sean McVay decided I'm not
[1:23] Speaker 1: going to play any of my good players. People criticize
[1:26] Speaker 1: him for it. He goes eight to no to start
[1:28] Speaker 1: the season, and everybody goes, yeah, we don't really need
[1:31] Speaker 1: to start any of our players. The season getting longer.
[1:34] Speaker 1: So I blame Sean mcvaigh for making August a really
[1:37] Speaker 1: awful month for sports talk radio. But filling in that
[1:42] Speaker 1: gap is the WNBA, which has now become a regular topic.
[1:46] Speaker 1: I can watch minute to minute our ratings, I can
[1:48] Speaker 1: watch my podcast, I can watch downloads on social and
[1:51] Speaker 1: the WNBA stuff moves a meter. So I find it
[1:55] Speaker 1: interesting that a lot of people are using this as
[1:58] Speaker 1: a reason not to pay the women. Hey, the last
[2:00] Speaker 1: twenty five years, it lost money. And my take is, okay,
[2:05] Speaker 1: I own the volume. If I had a podcast, let's
[2:09] Speaker 1: say it was an eight year contract and it lost
[2:10] Speaker 1: money seven years, and then the podcast added somebody to
[2:15] Speaker 1: last year of the contract and it exploded.
[2:17] Speaker 2: Well, I want my money back. I'm resigning it to
[2:19] Speaker 2: a five year contract.
[2:21] Speaker 1: The whole part of this league is, guys, it was
[2:24] Speaker 1: a choppy, failed league. It's not for the next decade.
[2:28] Speaker 1: Who the hell wants to give up their investment after
[2:32] Speaker 1: all these years of struggling your thoughts on that.
[2:36] Speaker 2: I find it to be fairly obvious what you're saying,
[2:40] Speaker 2: and I don't mean that in an insulting way. Like
[2:44] Speaker 2: they just signed a two billion dollar media rights deal.
[2:49] Speaker 2: They have two hundred and fifty million dollar expansion fees.
[2:54] Speaker 2: The Golden State Valkyries already have a five hundred million
[2:59] Speaker 2: dollar valuation and they don't exist yet. Patrick Mahomes is
[3:05] Speaker 2: openly campaigning that he wants to bring a team to
[3:09] Speaker 2: Kansas City. And his wife is the owner of a
[3:11] Speaker 2: women's soccer league team and they built the first ever
[3:15] Speaker 2: stadium that is its main tenant is a women's professional
[3:18] Speaker 2: soccer team. So he's got some real cachet in capital
[3:21] Speaker 2: in the women's sports space, Like rich people, powerful people
[3:27] Speaker 2: are lining up to invest in the WNBA ratings have
[3:31] Speaker 2: taken off. Caitlin Clark is able to sell out NBA
[3:35] Speaker 2: arenas I know not every other team is, and every
[3:37] Speaker 2: other player is, but like you've got a phenomenon. You've
[3:41] Speaker 2: made the Tiger Woods comparison before. I agree with it,
[3:45] Speaker 2: Like Ernie L's made money off Tiger Woods. Ernie Els
[3:49] Speaker 2: was playing golf professionally before Tiger Woods. But Tiger Woods
[3:53] Speaker 2: changed Erniel's life. He changed VJ. Singh's life, he changed
[3:57] Speaker 2: David Duvall's life. And those were guys that were older
[4:01] Speaker 2: than Tiger, that were on the pro tour before Tiger.
[4:04] Speaker 2: So it's clearly a great business to invest in. It's
[4:09] Speaker 2: clearly growth. How many startups lose money with venture capital
[4:13] Speaker 2: money for years and years and years and it's still like, oh, well,
[4:17] Speaker 2: this company's valued at eight billion dollars, what's its profit? Oh,
[4:21] Speaker 2: they're in the red. And it's like what it happens
[4:24] Speaker 2: all the time. So they're obviously going to get more money.
[4:29] Speaker 2: The question is how much more money. I don't think
[4:31] Speaker 2: you and I can really have an educated opinion on
[4:33] Speaker 2: that without seeing the books on everything. So I find
[4:38] Speaker 2: it all to be kind of disingenuous, like a lot
[4:40] Speaker 2: of the stuff around the WNBA. Obviously they're going to
[4:44] Speaker 2: get more money, and obviously they deserve more money.
[4:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought the real point of distinction was that
[4:51] Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark didn't play in the All Star Game and
[4:53] Speaker 1: the ratings were down a million, But the bigger number
[4:57] Speaker 1: was it was still the highest rated All Star game
[4:59] Speaker 1: in nineteen years, meaning she has risen the league's noteworthiness.
[5:05] Speaker 1: It's so redeemable now as a TV product that when
[5:08] Speaker 1: she's not playing, there's people know the league they I
[5:12] Speaker 1: couldn't have told you when the WNBA All Started Game
[5:15] Speaker 1: was three years ago. I couldn't have picked a month
[5:16] Speaker 1: that was in Now I know now. I watched highlights
[5:20] Speaker 1: on Sports Center this morning when I was on a treadmill.
[5:23] Speaker 1: It was well before NFL highlights and NFL camp discussions,
[5:27] Speaker 1: and it was interesting highlights. It was New York and
[5:29] Speaker 1: the fever. So like I think, you know the word
[5:32] Speaker 1: that's been overused as woke. It's like, guys, it's business.
[5:35] Speaker 1: Timing is everything in business. In fact, I was talking
[5:39] Speaker 1: to somebody at a company called Lion Tree when The
[5:42] Speaker 1: New York Times bought the Athletic. The Athletic was losing
[5:45] Speaker 1: forty five million a year. It's still not profitable. But
[5:48] Speaker 1: Trump wasn't in office, Biden was, and the Clicks went down,
[5:52] Speaker 1: and the New York Times was like, you know what,
[5:54] Speaker 1: we need more people coming to because there was a
[5:57] Speaker 1: certain standard with Trump where the clicks were through the
[6:00] Speaker 1: roof and subscriptions were up and buy you know, Sleepy Joe.
[6:04] Speaker 1: And it was all of a sudden like, oh, the
[6:06] Speaker 1: investors are like and they went and bought a company
[6:10] Speaker 1: that increased and I think it was a smart buy.
[6:13] Speaker 1: It still doesn't make money. It's all timing. And so
[6:18] Speaker 1: the timing's great. If they'd have been negotiating this deal
[6:20] Speaker 1: an hour before Caitlin Clark was drafted, it'd be a
[6:23] Speaker 1: totally different story.
[6:25] Speaker 2: Yeah, of course it would be. But also, like these
[6:27] Speaker 2: things take time, like the NBA. You are old enough
[6:32] Speaker 2: to remember, right, the NBA being and taped away.
[6:36] Speaker 1: I remember watching an NBA Finals game because I strugged
[6:40] Speaker 1: my parents didn't want me to stay up late at
[6:42] Speaker 1: night if they were on after the news eleven right,
[6:46] Speaker 1: right right.
[6:47] Speaker 2: Now, the six o'clock news. These the eleven o'clock news, right, So, like,
[6:50] Speaker 2: these things take time, And your point about the liberty
[6:56] Speaker 2: right is a good one. In Chicago, Angel Reese is
[6:59] Speaker 2: a thing? Is it a thing? Like Caitlin Clark is
[7:01] Speaker 2: a thing? Obviously not, but like Juju Watkins, that's gonna
[7:06] Speaker 2: be a thing. She's obviously got the injury, but she
[7:09] Speaker 2: looks awesome. Asia Wilson is awesome. The league is growing,
[7:13] Speaker 2: and I will even say I don't even want to
[7:16] Speaker 2: pretend like I'm not watching every night yet, but I
[7:19] Speaker 2: do like Caitlin Clark and the phenomenon of it. And
[7:22] Speaker 2: but it's clear that I'm getting more aware of it.
[7:25] Speaker 2: And ESPN has invested into their broadcast talent and their
[7:31] Speaker 2: studio talent, and the college the women's college tournament, same thing.
[7:35] Speaker 2: The presentation is better, so you learn about the characters earlier,
[7:39] Speaker 2: like you learn about the characters in the NBA from
[7:41] Speaker 2: March Madness or in the NFL from college football. Like
[7:45] Speaker 2: there's a there's a lag effect on popularity and growth.
[7:49] Speaker 2: And so if someone said to you, Danny, you could
[7:52] Speaker 2: invest and you could own x percent of a w
[7:54] Speaker 2: NBA team. Obviously I don't have the capital, but if
[7:58] Speaker 2: someone's came to you and say you want to buy
[8:01] Speaker 2: into five percent of an expansion WNBA team, of course
[8:06] Speaker 2: you would.
[8:07] Speaker 1: I'm trying to buy into the MLAs twice, and both
[8:10] Speaker 1: times I wanted to get at thirty five million. The
[8:13] Speaker 1: next time I tried it was eighty five million. Now
[8:15] Speaker 1: they're five hundred million. I've tried twice. Yeah, so like
[8:20] Speaker 1: it is an obvious buy.
[8:23] Speaker 2: And I just think that so many people have made
[8:28] Speaker 2: a little bit of a cottage industry off of what
[8:30] Speaker 2: you said being anti woke, and they feel like it's
[8:35] Speaker 2: you're you're shoving it down our throat or whatever they like.
[8:39] Speaker 2: You don't have to pay attention, you don't have to
[8:43] Speaker 2: like it. But when Caitlin Clark a regular season game,
[8:49] Speaker 2: when she returned from injury, when that game outrates Yankees
[8:54] Speaker 2: Red Sox on Sunday Night Baseball, Yeah, sorry, I don't care.
[9:00] Speaker 2: If it's not for you, it doesn't matter. It's not
[9:03] Speaker 2: even one hundred percent for me. But neither, by the way,
[9:06] Speaker 2: is regular season Yankees Red Sox all the time, right,
[9:09] Speaker 2: Like we pick and choose what we truly love, like
[9:11] Speaker 2: I'll watch the valspar right for golf, Like we all
[9:14] Speaker 2: have our different things. We all have only so much
[9:17] Speaker 2: sports capacity. But it's it's an objective fact. If she
[9:21] Speaker 2: can generate ratings that are like lower level college football
[9:25] Speaker 2: games or higher level regular season baseball games, those are
[9:29] Speaker 2: billion dollar businesses. So obviously, if she's making seventy five grand,
[9:35] Speaker 2: she's underpaid. It's just an obvious story that people want
[9:38] Speaker 2: to get mad about for some unknown reasons.
[9:42] Speaker 1: So when the college football Playoff was announced for twelve
[9:45] Speaker 1: teams eventually fourteen sixteen, it cut right down the middle.
[9:49] Speaker 1: There were the people like myself that are like, oh,
[9:51] Speaker 1: this is awesome. December is going to be awesome. These
[9:53] Speaker 1: bowl games are so dried up, Like we got forty
[9:57] Speaker 1: five bowl games, I watch four. I thought it was
[10:01] Speaker 1: obvious like December now is going to be even better.
[10:06] Speaker 1: In December's great with NFL playoffs, and we saw that
[10:09] Speaker 1: to be true. But there was another group, including a
[10:11] Speaker 1: lot of the media, that said, oh, it's gonna kill rivalries.
[10:15] Speaker 1: And my take is when Texas played Georgia last year,
[10:19] Speaker 1: it was the highest rated game, right I think before
[10:21] Speaker 1: the National Championship. That's not a rivalry. People watch good.
[10:25] Speaker 1: When Texas plays Ohio State on Fox over the Labor
[10:28] Speaker 1: Day weekend, people watch good, and they'll watch it a
[10:32] Speaker 1: second time. You watched the Oregon Ohio State the first time,
[10:35] Speaker 1: well it was a terrible game, but you'll watch it
[10:37] Speaker 1: the second time. So my take is it doesn't matter.
[10:39] Speaker 1: We watched NFL football teams can play three times in
[10:42] Speaker 1: a season. I remember years the Steelers and Ravens played
[10:44] Speaker 1: three times. I watched all of them, so that's like
[10:48] Speaker 1: to me. I was shocked by the number of people
[10:51] Speaker 1: that were college football fans, like like Diehard's or media
[10:54] Speaker 1: that were like, this is bad, it will kill urgency. Well,
[10:58] Speaker 1: what it actually did is it allows teams now like
[11:02] Speaker 1: Ohio State and Texas to play Opening Week and whoever
[11:06] Speaker 1: loses is fine. There'll be more big games in December
[11:11] Speaker 1: and more big games in September.
[11:15] Speaker 2: Do you think it makes the week one game less big? Though?
[11:20] Speaker 2: I watch great? I know, I know you do. You
[11:25] Speaker 2: are a super fan of college football Michigan Ohio State.
[11:31] Speaker 2: Last year, the loser of the game wins the national championship. Yeah,
[11:39] Speaker 2: and on some level, not to a Michigan fan and
[11:43] Speaker 2: not to an Ohio State fan, but to a guy
[11:46] Speaker 2: who went to Syracuse, it did take away, and I
[11:50] Speaker 2: watched it and I will still watch it. It did take
[11:53] Speaker 2: away a little bit of the first Michigan Ohio State
[11:57] Speaker 2: game because it objectively matters less.
[12:00] Speaker 1: But it didn't take it away in the moment as
[12:04] Speaker 1: Michigan was shocking them as a twenty point dog.
[12:07] Speaker 2: It didn't hurt.
[12:08] Speaker 1: Then in retrospect you look back and go, well, it
[12:11] Speaker 1: doesn't feel as big. Well that's like saying a year
[12:13] Speaker 1: after you got a Christmas present, I don't feel the
[12:15] Speaker 1: same today as I did a year ago when I
[12:17] Speaker 1: got the Christmas present.
[12:18] Speaker 2: No, I know, but I guess. But you take the
[12:20] Speaker 2: lesson and you go forward with it, and you say
[12:23] Speaker 2: there's there is some like like the NFL has expanded
[12:27] Speaker 2: the playoffs right, easier to get in. We love the playoffs.
[12:30] Speaker 2: It's more football Week seventeen was terrible because most of
[12:37] Speaker 2: the teams were like sitting, were sitting guys. Yeah, and
[12:41] Speaker 2: team teams have been a limited and it's like, oh, well,
[12:43] Speaker 2: what's the difference between being the five seed and the
[12:45] Speaker 2: sixth seed? Like we're in, it doesn't matter, we're gonna still,
[12:48] Speaker 2: we're gonna sit guys, We're gonna play guys for a quarter.
[12:51] Speaker 2: So I think there is a trade off that comes
[12:55] Speaker 2: with more games and all that, and with college football. Listen,
[12:58] Speaker 2: I understood I always was more games, I am going
[13:02] Speaker 2: to watch, more big games, more big games I am
[13:05] Speaker 2: going to watch. But I had a hard time with
[13:09] Speaker 2: the college football. Argument for the expansion of the playoffs
[13:13] Speaker 2: was like, how many times in the BCS era even
[13:18] Speaker 2: did you feel like the fifth best team in the
[13:21] Speaker 2: country deserved a shot at being the national champion? I
[13:26] Speaker 2: didn't think that it existed. Like, and so if your
[13:29] Speaker 2: argument is, well, expand the tournament, get them in, and
[13:33] Speaker 2: then any given Sunday they can or any given Saturday
[13:36] Speaker 2: they can win it, that's fine. But then it does
[13:40] Speaker 2: take away a little bit of the regular season to me.
[13:43] Speaker 2: And again I will watch, but I get My guess
[13:46] Speaker 2: is as they keep expanding this playoff, people will come
[13:49] Speaker 2: away with it all. It'll blend together and the right
[13:54] Speaker 2: the Week six game is not going to feel as big.
[13:57] Speaker 1: But in mid October, double the number of teams to
[14:04] Speaker 1: triple are still in the hunt for a fourteen game
[14:08] Speaker 1: playoff or a twelve game playoff. Where it used to
[14:11] Speaker 1: be if you lost a game in September, you lost
[14:14] Speaker 1: another when you were done, and so the last six
[14:17] Speaker 1: weeks of the season you're out and going to talk. Now,
[14:20] Speaker 1: like Ohio State loses to Oregon, then they lose to Michigan,
[14:25] Speaker 1: You're like, shit, oh, oh my god. Ryan Day's gonna
[14:29] Speaker 1: get fired if they lose to Tennessee. So the story
[14:32] Speaker 1: went from winning to Ryan Day's getting blowught. Oh they
[14:35] Speaker 1: just blew out Tennessee, Well he better beat Org. Oh
[14:37] Speaker 1: they blew him out, Well they better beat So the
[14:40] Speaker 1: story changed from just the game to are they gonna
[14:43] Speaker 1: blow up Ryan Day's career? So to me, it pivoted
[14:46] Speaker 1: from okay, Ohio State still going to get in, but
[14:51] Speaker 1: remember the story before the Tennessee game, Ryan Day can't
[14:54] Speaker 1: lose respired, So there was a different drama. It wasn't
[14:58] Speaker 1: and nobody thought Ohio State, most people even in Columbus,
[15:01] Speaker 1: didn't think they were gonna win on Natty. After losing
[15:03] Speaker 1: the Michigan people were like no, they were like going overboard.
[15:10] Speaker 2: Yeah they were. It was insane, and now you're gonna
[15:14] Speaker 2: get games like like Arizona State's gonna you know, they
[15:17] Speaker 2: made it and it was a nice story. And then
[15:20] Speaker 2: the spread in the game was like twenty points, right
[15:24] Speaker 2: for a college football playoff game. It doesn't like it,
[15:26] Speaker 2: just it doesn't. That part of it is gonna feel
[15:31] Speaker 2: a little weird to me because can they win, yes,
[15:37] Speaker 2: But like you, was there any part of you that
[15:39] Speaker 2: thought that Arizona State could have gone on a run
[15:42] Speaker 2: and won the national champion. No but but okay, zero
[15:47] Speaker 2: zero part of you. So it felt a little bit
[15:49] Speaker 2: like a waste of time.
[15:51] Speaker 1: Okay, but I think there's only five teams that can
[15:55] Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl next year going into the season, I.
[15:58] Speaker 2: Think Kansas is not true. That's just not true.
[16:01] Speaker 1: Kansas City, Buffalo, Baltimore are They've just got better players,
[16:05] Speaker 1: better coaches. I think we both think Denver and the
[16:08] Speaker 1: Chargers are interesting, but bo Nick's hoisting a trophy seems rare.
[16:12] Speaker 1: We know Philadelphia is really really good, and McVeagh and
[16:15] Speaker 1: the Rams will be there, and then there'll be a
[16:18] Speaker 1: couple of really interesting teams. I don't think brock Purdy
[16:20] Speaker 1: now with an older team and a shaky old line works.
[16:24] Speaker 1: But I've been arguing this for years. There's way less
[16:27] Speaker 1: parody in the NFL than everybody thinks. And the reason
[16:29] Speaker 1: I know that because for the second year in a role,
[16:31] Speaker 1: I can pick the division winners easily in the AFC,
[16:35] Speaker 1: and it's getting to the point picking division winners in
[16:38] Speaker 1: the NFL six of eight is not that difficult.
[16:41] Speaker 2: Okay, but do you think Washington could have won the
[16:45] Speaker 2: Super Bowl last year.
[16:46] Speaker 1: No, there's always a shocking team. I had picked the
[16:50] Speaker 1: Rams the year before as the shocking team. I picked,
[16:52] Speaker 1: by the way last year, Washington and Denver to be
[16:56] Speaker 1: the shocking teams. How did I do that well? Because
[16:59] Speaker 1: I think they were so poorly run with Van Snyder
[17:02] Speaker 1: that all the New Guys' easy division wins against Dallas
[17:05] Speaker 1: and the Giants. So I actually picked Washington and Denver
[17:08] Speaker 1: to be much better.
[17:09] Speaker 2: Like this year.
[17:09] Speaker 1: I think it's obvious New England and Tennessee are going
[17:13] Speaker 1: to double their win total. So even the surprises are
[17:16] Speaker 1: pretty I've done four years in a row where I've
[17:18] Speaker 1: picked the double.
[17:19] Speaker 2: Yr win team. It's going to be New England this
[17:21] Speaker 2: year and.
[17:25] Speaker 1: Tennessee Tennessee. So let's let's go to Chicago. I I
[17:34] Speaker 1: I don't I find the division very weird?
[17:37] Speaker 2: Oh listen, I mean we I we could go, we
[17:39] Speaker 2: could do the Listen, we'll We'll do a lot of
[17:42] Speaker 2: Bears at some point before the year.
[17:44] Speaker 1: Here's the thing, big advantage of the Bears.
[17:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, they got a lot better.
[17:49] Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, You're going to see it very quickly. Is
[17:54] Speaker 1: not what people think. And the Lions lost both coordinators
[17:58] Speaker 1: So whereas we look at the AFC West and go, god,
[18:02] Speaker 1: that's a good division, we say that about the NFC North.
[18:07] Speaker 1: We don't know about Jordan Love. We really don't. JJ
[18:11] Speaker 1: McCarthy is a C quarterback. You ever seen JJ McCarthy's
[18:14] Speaker 1: fourth quarter college stats and playing from behind fourth quarter
[18:18] Speaker 1: stats in college. With Michigan and Harbor on that old line,
[18:21] Speaker 1: they're terrible. Detroit's pulling back because they're O. Line in
[18:25] Speaker 1: the middle is a mess and they lost both coordinators.
[18:29] Speaker 1: That is a is a real bonus. That division we
[18:33] Speaker 1: think is really well, it's well coached. I think the
[18:37] Speaker 1: Bears have an opportunity to win ten or eleven games.
[18:39] Speaker 1: I don't think it's as good a division as people think.
[18:42] Speaker 2: Well, then they would be a w win team if
[18:45] Speaker 2: they can, if they can get to double digits. I mean,
[18:48] Speaker 2: I think that having the level of coaching in that
[18:50] Speaker 2: division is just very, very very high, and so I
[18:54] Speaker 2: think that that makes the worst team in that division. Like,
[18:57] Speaker 2: let's say you're right about JJ McCarthy, he's still has
[19:02] Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell, Jordan Addison, and Justin Jefferson. Like they got
[19:09] Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins to be near five thousand yards. They got
[19:12] Speaker 2: Sam Darnold one hundred million dollars, Like JJ McCarthy doesn't
[19:15] Speaker 2: need to be awesome in order for that offense to
[19:18] Speaker 2: be pretty good. And let's say Minnesota is the worst
[19:20] Speaker 2: team in the division this year they won fourteen games
[19:24] Speaker 2: last year, it's it's a pretty good worst team if
[19:28] Speaker 2: that's what they are. Or if the Bears are the
[19:29] Speaker 2: worst team in the division, that's a pretty tough worst team.
[19:32] Speaker 2: So like, even if they're not top heavy dominant, I
[19:36] Speaker 2: don't see there being any team in that division that's
[19:39] Speaker 2: just like straight up bad. There's no Cleveland Browns in
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[21:24] Speaker 1: All right, John and I are doing It's one o'clock
[21:26] Speaker 1: Central right now as we do our podcast as Scottie
[21:28] Speaker 1: Scheffler just won the Open and really just he started
[21:31] Speaker 1: playing well early in the day and it was over. Yeah,
[21:34] Speaker 1: I want to start with this because we know he's great.
[21:37] Speaker 1: It's so funny. Bryson de Shambo said, I played with
[21:40] Speaker 1: this guy in college. He wasn't nearly this good. This
[21:43] Speaker 1: guy has really changed the projectory of his career.
[21:49] Speaker 2: But I was thinking about this.
[21:50] Speaker 1: People are saying, is this like Tiger because he is
[21:52] Speaker 1: the most dominant golfer in terms of leading pulling away
[21:56] Speaker 1: at majors. But I think people forget this. Tiger was
[21:59] Speaker 1: about forty yards longer minimum off the tea. Scheffler's more
[22:03] Speaker 1: in the three three ten, Tiger was three forty to
[22:05] Speaker 1: three sixty. Tiger's the best iron player in my life.
[22:09] Speaker 1: Now you're you could ask experts. They may pilled him
[22:12] Speaker 1: third fourth, but I thought in his prime he was
[22:14] Speaker 1: as good to iron player as the world have. And
[22:16] Speaker 1: Tiger was not only the best big putt long putt putter,
[22:21] Speaker 1: but he was a great lag putter as well. He
[22:24] Speaker 1: could set up putts. If he missed, he had a
[22:26] Speaker 1: short putt from there. Whereas Scheffler, to me, the weakness
[22:30] Speaker 1: has been putting. He's better now than he used to be.
[22:33] Speaker 1: But I've always felt with his putting, if he's making putts,
[22:36] Speaker 1: he's unbeatable, but he's not always making his putts. So
[22:40] Speaker 1: my take is, I know we want to crown the
[22:43] Speaker 1: hot new guy Tiger.
[22:45] Speaker 2: I don't.
[22:45] Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like Tiger in his prime. I
[22:49] Speaker 1: think if Scheffler was at his prime with Tiger, he
[22:51] Speaker 1: would be like Mickelson, he'd be on him, he'd win majors.
[22:56] Speaker 1: But I don't think you can compare anything to Tiger.
[22:58] Speaker 3: Yeah, I think one element of Scotty that differs from
[23:03] Speaker 3: most superstar athletes, and that's I mean, truly, today was
[23:07] Speaker 3: the icing on the cake of this guy is a
[23:08] Speaker 3: complete rocket ship, way more accomplished at the same age
[23:12] Speaker 3: than Phil Mickelson. Who's easily the second best player of
[23:14] Speaker 3: the last thirty plus years is typically right quarterbacks now,
[23:18] Speaker 3: but NBA superstars definitely individual athletes, right tennis stars and
[23:23] Speaker 3: golfers become a business in themselves. The F one drivers
[23:26] Speaker 3: the Scotty Jordan Speith mentioned this today. He's like, you
[23:30] Speaker 3: know what makes Scotty a lot different than anyone I've
[23:32] Speaker 3: seen out here is we all do these corporate events
[23:34] Speaker 3: and kind of hustle and love that aspect, not love it,
[23:38] Speaker 3: but it's a huge part of our world. Scotty's not
[23:41] Speaker 3: into that at all. You know. Tiger, let's face it,
[23:44] Speaker 3: Phil Knight Foldham, if you read Shoe Dog, I think
[23:48] Speaker 3: the last like three or four rounds in Tiger's final
[23:52] Speaker 3: US Amateur victory and he turned pro immediately after winning
[23:55] Speaker 3: it for the third straight time. I mean, Tiger Woods
[23:57] Speaker 3: was a business honestly before he became a make champion
[24:01] Speaker 3: and then they just kind of colluded together. Scotty Scheffler's
[24:03] Speaker 3: just a great golfer, who said before this week started,
[24:08] Speaker 3: did you see him go on the ramp for about
[24:10] Speaker 3: five six minutes about Yeah, Honestly, a lot of people
[24:13] Speaker 3: had a bunch of different opinions. It reminded me a
[24:14] Speaker 3: lot of football coaches. It's like, you know, we grind,
[24:17] Speaker 3: we grind, we grind, we win, and then we're just
[24:20] Speaker 3: on to the next one. Belichick did this for twenty
[24:22] Speaker 3: five years, right you interview him, We're just on to
[24:24] Speaker 3: the next team. Because everyone's like, oh, Scotty doesn't like golf. No, no,
[24:27] Speaker 3: Scotty doesn't find that much value, like holding up the trophy.
[24:30] Speaker 3: It doesn't do much for him, but you don't become
[24:32] Speaker 3: this good. He likes to grind. He wants no one
[24:35] Speaker 3: to watch him and just be by himself and play golf,
[24:37] Speaker 3: which I respect.
[24:39] Speaker 1: Listen, Philip Rivers told me one time, and I was
[24:42] Speaker 1: surprised he said it. He goes I like the process
[24:44] Speaker 1: better than the games. He goes building a and Philip
[24:49] Speaker 1: was the total trash talking grinder, one of the great
[24:52] Speaker 1: guys that ever played in the NFL. Philip Rivers is like,
[24:55] Speaker 1: I love building a game plan.
[24:58] Speaker 2: I love it.
[24:59] Speaker 3: That's how I feel.
[24:59] Speaker 1: Scott Scheffler is he loves the process of it, but
[25:03] Speaker 1: once he wins, it's like, okay, one, but it's really
[25:06] Speaker 1: about family in the process. Nick Saban talked about this forever,
[25:10] Speaker 1: and you've been in my process?
[25:11] Speaker 2: What would do a radio show?
[25:12] Speaker 1: I love walking in for two hours and building a show.
[25:16] Speaker 1: Once I've done that, I know the show.
[25:18] Speaker 2: Is going to be fine.
[25:19] Speaker 1: There is something and I think there's a lot of
[25:21] Speaker 1: people like this. I think there are lawyers like this
[25:23] Speaker 1: who the courtroom's fine, but it's building the case to
[25:27] Speaker 1: defend your client. And I think that's that's a common
[25:30] Speaker 1: thread with greatness. You really like sitting on the range
[25:37] Speaker 1: for three hours working on your seven and eight iron,
[25:40] Speaker 1: your rescue club, whatever it is, and so everybody's kind
[25:43] Speaker 1: of like whoa, whoa, whoa, Scotti, Scheffler, buzzkill. Now he's
[25:47] Speaker 1: telling you that the process, his love affair is with
[25:50] Speaker 1: a family, and the process more than holding up a
[25:53] Speaker 1: trophy on Sunday.
[25:55] Speaker 3: I also think it would be a turn off, right
[25:56] Speaker 3: if he wasn't literally winning every time he played. So
[25:59] Speaker 3: he says mentally showing you like I'm I'm grinding as hard,
[26:02] Speaker 3: if not harder than everyone out here. I love doing
[26:04] Speaker 3: this aspect. I just hate everything, especially in twenty twenty
[26:08] Speaker 3: five that comes along with this. You know who didn't
[26:11] Speaker 3: like that as much? Tiger Woods, Stevie Williams, his former caddy.
[26:14] Speaker 3: They broke up after Tiger had the incident in eight,
[26:17] Speaker 3: talked about this. Forever Tiger would win a tournament, and
[26:19] Speaker 3: he'd tell him, maybe an hour after winning and doing
[26:21] Speaker 3: the press conference, is like, see on the range tomorrow
[26:24] Speaker 3: eight Steven Williams. You know, after a while, it's like, Tiger,
[26:27] Speaker 3: what what are we talking about? Like, you're not playing
[26:29] Speaker 3: for a couple more weeks in tournament. Enjoy the week,
[26:32] Speaker 3: Enjoy tomorrow. Nick Saban Lane Kiffin's told the story forever
[26:35] Speaker 3: Jim Macka went they would win a national championship and
[26:38] Speaker 3: the Saban's like, see guys tomorrow a thirty in the
[26:40] Speaker 3: morning recruiting meeting. It's like, Nick, we just won the
[26:42] Speaker 3: national championship. He's like, actually it's a seven forty five.
[26:45] Speaker 3: We'll meet tomorrow in the conference and like, what do
[26:48] Speaker 3: we need to do. Tiger was notorious for that right
[26:52] Speaker 3: of just being on the range the next day.
[26:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, and in retrospect it's easy to say, but the
[26:58] Speaker 1: truth is, because of the tour in which Tiger Woods
[27:01] Speaker 1: played with, he would have been much better served to
[27:04] Speaker 1: take time off. He sorks Ion Williamson like his torque
[27:09] Speaker 1: I can remember when Tiger was in his prime, and
[27:11] Speaker 1: you know how a guy will take a shot and
[27:14] Speaker 1: then then the analysts will look at it in slow motion,
[27:16] Speaker 1: the golf experts, and they'll break it down. Nothing Tiger
[27:20] Speaker 1: was doing a golf coach would tell you to do.
[27:23] Speaker 1: I mean, he was coming out of his shoes. His
[27:26] Speaker 1: torque was insane, but it worked for Tiger. He would
[27:29] Speaker 1: have been much better served, more than any golfer of
[27:33] Speaker 1: my lifetime, to actually take Monday off because it literally
[27:37] Speaker 1: big down.
[27:39] Speaker 3: I think he was the opposite, right, he started lifting harder.
[27:42] Speaker 3: You know. I think I listened to Hank Haney's book
[27:44] Speaker 3: within the last couple of years, and he thought, you know,
[27:46] Speaker 3: Tiger a little like Jordan, almost became bored because I'm like,
[27:50] Speaker 3: I'm winning every tournament. Started doing the Navy Seals training,
[27:53] Speaker 3: like chasing his dad. Right, it was like a part
[27:56] Speaker 3: of his life. Like at one point in time, I
[27:57] Speaker 3: think he believed, I don't know if it was gonna happen,
[28:00] Speaker 3: he could be a Navy Seal. Started training with them
[28:02] Speaker 3: in San Diego and like messed up his knee and
[28:05] Speaker 3: that's what happened. A couple years later, in eight this
[28:07] Speaker 3: was in like five, six oh seven. He's going on
[28:10] Speaker 3: these long runs with the seals and boots. I mean,
[28:12] Speaker 3: these guys now are doing cold tubs. They obviously treat
[28:15] Speaker 3: their bodies. I would say golf has mirrored all these
[28:18] Speaker 3: other sports in terms of all these guys. You know,
[28:21] Speaker 3: the lifting, the recovery, the eating. You know, it used
[28:25] Speaker 3: to be. Let's face it, even when Tiger early on,
[28:27] Speaker 3: and Tiger had changed by the last fifteen years when
[28:29] Speaker 3: the money got so big kind of a beer drinking,
[28:32] Speaker 3: you can eat cheeseburgers at the turn. I mean that's
[28:35] Speaker 3: all these guys. Look who their friends are, right, justin
[28:38] Speaker 3: Thomas hangs out with Michael Jordan, right hangs out with
[28:40] Speaker 3: football player. I mean they are all kind of interconnected
[28:43] Speaker 3: now in that circle, Tiger made golf cool. But that's
[28:46] Speaker 3: where Scotti feels much more like a sixty seventies golfer,
[28:49] Speaker 3: Like he just wants to go home, be left alone,
[28:51] Speaker 3: does not want the cameras to follow him. But Colin
[28:53] Speaker 3: last year he made sixty five million dollars on the course,
[28:56] Speaker 3: and this year he's won two major. I don't think
[28:58] Speaker 3: he's gonna make the same amount of moneyotentially, but he's
[29:01] Speaker 3: going to accumulate in a twenty four month span, probably
[29:04] Speaker 3: on and off the course. When you factor in Nike
[29:06] Speaker 3: bonuses being the number one player, I mean you're talking
[29:08] Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty million dollars. I mean he's going
[29:11] Speaker 3: to be paid like he's an NBA a football star
[29:13] Speaker 3: playing golf. And I think the one thing with his words,
[29:16] Speaker 3: he's uncomfortable with it a little bit. He's not He
[29:18] Speaker 3: doesn't like that world. He doesn't want to be a celebrity.
[29:22] Speaker 1: A lot of times when there's a rumor, John who
[29:25] Speaker 1: who starts the rumor? So Greg McElroy, a guy who
[29:29] Speaker 1: I respect greatly, does a great job on I think
[29:32] Speaker 1: it's w JOX radio in Alabama. Former BAMA quarterback. Greg's
[29:36] Speaker 1: really smart, really works hard. He s as good at
[29:39] Speaker 1: college football analyst and I'm talking TV networks.
[29:42] Speaker 2: He's a good at anybody out there.
[29:43] Speaker 1: I bring him on the show the Volume a couple
[29:46] Speaker 1: times a year. He's just sensational. And he said, there's
[29:50] Speaker 1: a lot of talk about Nick and coaching. So that's
[29:53] Speaker 1: in my opinion, I'm guessing here that's coming from his
[29:56] Speaker 1: Alabama sources.
[29:58] Speaker 3: Well, they all play golf in the same at this point,
[30:00] Speaker 3: time done there.
[30:02] Speaker 1: Then Lane Kiffin says, and Lane's one of his closer
[30:05] Speaker 1: is close to Nick, more more close than many other assistants.
[30:08] Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I think my guess is he may
[30:12] Speaker 1: miss you know, developing young people. He really he loves that.
[30:15] Speaker 1: So my take is, okay, this is story. So I
[30:20] Speaker 1: brought Urban Meyer on this week, who is friends with Nick,
[30:23] Speaker 1: and he said, I don't think he's going back to college,
[30:25] Speaker 1: but he's gonna He would take NFL calls. And this
[30:29] Speaker 1: is one of those things where and I told Urban this,
[30:32] Speaker 1: and Urban hadn't thought about it a lot. But what
[30:35] Speaker 1: the NIL has done. Coaches thought the NFL, the NIL
[30:38] Speaker 1: was trouble. I gotta pay my players. Dabosweeney's like, I'm
[30:41] Speaker 1: not paying my players. That's not college football. It's actually
[30:44] Speaker 1: been a beneficial additive for coaches. You can't fire Brian
[30:49] Speaker 1: Kelly or Lincoln Riley if you wanted to, because USC
[30:53] Speaker 1: just built three hundred million in facilities. They got that
[30:55] Speaker 1: from the donors. They raised eighteen million dollars a year.
[30:58] Speaker 1: NIL they got it from donors. To buy out Lincoln
[31:02] Speaker 1: would be eighty million, and then you'd have to pay
[31:04] Speaker 1: sixty million to eighty million to get the new coach.
[31:07] Speaker 1: USC and Southern California, the biggest economy in the country,
[31:11] Speaker 1: they can't afford it. The idea that Alabama, who is
[31:15] Speaker 1: struggling to raise fifteen million a year nil, could buy
[31:19] Speaker 1: out Kalin for seventy and then bring Nick back for
[31:21] Speaker 1: one hundred million, six year deal. They don't have close
[31:25] Speaker 1: to that money. Auburn now is raising more money. And
[31:28] Speaker 1: so my take is with Nick, he's not going to
[31:30] Speaker 1: college because nobody's buying out their coaches anymore.
[31:33] Speaker 2: Nick's not coming.
[31:34] Speaker 1: Back for twelve million two years.
[31:37] Speaker 2: Nick's coming back. I want.
[31:38] Speaker 1: I want four years guaranteed, okay, and I want thirteen
[31:43] Speaker 1: million per year. That's fifty minimum, Jimmy Sexton fifty minimum.
[31:49] Speaker 2: Well, then you have to buy out your coach. It's
[31:51] Speaker 2: not happening. But Nick, like Harbaugh.
[31:56] Speaker 1: Harbaugh had Kaepernick and Alex Smith, and it nod at
[31:59] Speaker 1: him if I can get the quarterback right, and the
[32:02] Speaker 1: owner is paying for a staff, which the Spanos family
[32:05] Speaker 1: finally opened up checkbook for the staff big you know,
[32:09] Speaker 1: jesse mentor Greg Roman. That's a pay a lot, yeah,
[32:13] Speaker 1: at and the Spanhos the knocking the Spanos it was fair.
[32:16] Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair anymore, but it was fair
[32:17] Speaker 1: for a long time.
[32:18] Speaker 2: They're cheap. They're not anymore.
[32:20] Speaker 1: They pay Herbert, they pay the staff. They built a
[32:23] Speaker 1: gorgeous new facility in Elvis. It's gorgeous, like they spend money.
[32:27] Speaker 1: That's an unfair criticism anymore. I thought it was fair
[32:30] Speaker 1: until about three four years ago. The SOFI deal is
[32:32] Speaker 1: great for them. They're spending money. But I think Sabin
[32:35] Speaker 1: looks around and I'll throw this at you. Jimmy HASLM
[32:39] Speaker 1: loves publicity. They're probably the worst team in the league.
[32:43] Speaker 1: Arch Manning goes to Cleveland. Manning's no Saban. He coached
[32:47] Speaker 1: in Cleveland before. They would be the most interesting team
[32:50] Speaker 1: in the league. He would give him a five year
[32:53] Speaker 1: what's fifteen times five seventy five million dollar deal? I
[32:58] Speaker 1: think Nick would do it.
[33:00] Speaker 3: Well. Here's the thing. Belichick is a good example of right.
[33:05] Speaker 3: The NFL kind of turned on him, and he was
[33:07] Speaker 3: open to college. He claims the nil and obviously that's
[33:10] Speaker 3: an aspect. They're comfortable, but no one tells you what
[33:13] Speaker 3: to do in college. When he become the football coach
[33:15] Speaker 3: you have, you're basically the owner if it was the
[33:18] Speaker 3: equivalent of the NFL. Right, Nick Saban has answered to
[33:21] Speaker 3: nobody for fifteen plus years. I mean by the time
[33:25] Speaker 3: year two or three at Alabama when he won, he
[33:27] Speaker 3: answered to nobody in the NFL. You know, the ad
[33:31] Speaker 3: in recruiting is not sitting behind you on a chair
[33:34] Speaker 3: looking over your shoulder. What did we talk about with Shador?
[33:37] Speaker 3: It was Andrew Berry Stefanski and then Haslam kind of
[33:40] Speaker 3: right there in the middle. Now, Haslam has spent more
[33:43] Speaker 3: actual cash than any owner in the league in the
[33:46] Speaker 3: last four years in terms of signing bonus, so financially,
[33:50] Speaker 3: he would be the equivalent of like University of Texas
[33:52] Speaker 3: in terms of the pros. Right, he is spending an
[33:55] Speaker 3: ungodly amount of money, so people would be attracted to
[33:58] Speaker 3: his willingness to kind of he'll manipulate the salary cap
[34:01] Speaker 3: for you. But he's extremely involved. And Nick has had
[34:06] Speaker 3: I mean his nickname, right, I mean Nick Tator, Like
[34:09] Speaker 3: he answers to nobody, and in fairness, his decisions are
[34:12] Speaker 3: usually correct. I think I saw that you talked to
[34:16] Speaker 3: Breer about Dallas. I'm not saying that some of these
[34:19] Speaker 3: owners would not sniff around, probably already have made some contact. Hey,
[34:23] Speaker 3: just big picture, it's called business. I just wonder, like,
[34:26] Speaker 3: would he answer to Jimmy Haslam or Jerry giving him
[34:30] Speaker 3: constant football ideas? Remember Belichick. Probably it might have been
[34:35] Speaker 3: the year he was off started listing off stories. I
[34:38] Speaker 3: think to like McAfee about different times owners storm in
[34:41] Speaker 3: and give different ideas, like, hey, are we sure defense?
[34:44] Speaker 3: He used to talk about the Cleveland experience, like we
[34:47] Speaker 3: know what we're doing on defense, and Bill would be like,
[34:49] Speaker 3: Nick Saban's are defensive coordinator?
[34:51] Speaker 2: You idiot?
[34:52] Speaker 3: You know?
[34:52] Speaker 2: So?
[34:53] Speaker 3: I just love these guys. It's unlike any business where
[34:57] Speaker 3: a family like the Haslms, who are clearly successful area whoever,
[35:00] Speaker 3: in whatever industry they're in, even if they are football
[35:04] Speaker 3: people and love the sport, you can't speak the language
[35:07] Speaker 3: in terms of like football language, which is extremely complicated,
[35:11] Speaker 3: especially once you get in season with schematic stuff. I
[35:15] Speaker 3: just think it becomes really complicated for a guy like Nick,
[35:17] Speaker 3: who's you know, I don't know, made hundreds of millions
[35:20] Speaker 3: of dollars to then answer to someone, and I don't
[35:23] Speaker 3: care who you are in the NFL, you still somewhat
[35:25] Speaker 3: have to answer. I mean, you talk to all these
[35:27] Speaker 3: GMS a lot. I'm sure what they bitch to you
[35:30] Speaker 3: about is like God, the owner, he's in my ass
[35:32] Speaker 3: about this and this, And it's not always just like
[35:35] Speaker 3: the star quarterback. It could be the stupidest stuff, and
[35:38] Speaker 3: they spend a lot of their time. It's when GMS
[35:41] Speaker 3: go on an interview and they say, you know, you
[35:43] Speaker 3: have to realize that you can't just sit in a
[35:45] Speaker 3: room and watch film. What they're essentially saying is I'm
[35:47] Speaker 3: getting pulled in a bunch of different directions and whenever
[35:50] Speaker 3: that call or that guy walks in, you don't have
[35:52] Speaker 3: a choice. You drop everything you're doing for the owner.
[35:55] Speaker 3: So and that Jimmy has them is extremely involved. But
[35:58] Speaker 3: I'm with you, nick Abe and Jimmy haslam in two
[36:01] Speaker 3: thousand and what year are we in twenty five? That's
[36:03] Speaker 3: so that would be like January of twenty twenty six,
[36:05] Speaker 3: signed me up. Now we got a long way to go.
[36:08] Speaker 3: I think saving it would be more realistic then. Like
[36:11] Speaker 3: arch Manning, I'm excited as anybody, but like he's played
[36:15] Speaker 3: two games, so I know, you know, is he gonna
[36:19] Speaker 3: be a great player? I don't know. It's the SEC's
[36:21] Speaker 3: really hard. They're still open up with Ohio State. He
[36:23] Speaker 3: has an insane amount of pressure and he's it's not
[36:27] Speaker 3: his fault. He's saying all the right things. Stark's saying
[36:29] Speaker 3: all the right things, but it's everyone else. It's gonna
[36:31] Speaker 3: be pretty intense. And the other thing, this quarterback class
[36:34] Speaker 3: like good players at that position, even in his own conference,
[36:38] Speaker 3: that are pretty well established, that has been starting for
[36:40] Speaker 3: a couple of years. Let's just see like is he
[36:44] Speaker 3: uh does he throw thirty five touchdowns? Or is this
[36:47] Speaker 3: year work in progress? He doesn't need the money, so
[36:51] Speaker 3: even if he is really good, he's on a lock
[36:52] Speaker 3: to go. Bro Peyton Manninghal went back to school in
[36:55] Speaker 3: the late nineties. He easily could after nil. So I
[36:59] Speaker 3: think think he would have to have like one of
[37:02] Speaker 3: the great seasons in college football history too for me
[37:05] Speaker 3: to feel comfortable like he would be a lot to
[37:07] Speaker 3: come out. If you just tell me, hey, they're in
[37:08] Speaker 3: the final four, he has a good season, he's like
[37:10] Speaker 3: second team all SEC. I could one hundred percent to
[37:13] Speaker 3: see him coming back to school. His two uncles did
[37:16] Speaker 3: it like college football did that family. For a family
[37:18] Speaker 3: that's obviously known for NFL stuff and financially really successful
[37:23] Speaker 3: means a lot to that family, right, It's I mean
[37:26] Speaker 3: it meant a lot to Eli. Goes back to Ole
[37:27] Speaker 3: Miss all the time. His dad's a huge part of all.
[37:29] Speaker 3: Miss Peyton's constantly in Tennessee. I think I just saw
[37:32] Speaker 3: a story his son is that Marshall is Trent. I
[37:36] Speaker 3: thought he lived in Denver's gonna play high school football
[37:39] Speaker 3: in Tennessee a lot. They have a lot of passion
[37:42] Speaker 3: for college football. And I don't care who you are.
[37:44] Speaker 3: When you're around your uncles and your dad, like stuff
[37:47] Speaker 3: rubs off on you, and I can imagine it means
[37:49] Speaker 3: a lot. It's good to be a multi year starter
[37:51] Speaker 3: at Texas is a lot. Do you won and done not?
[37:53] Speaker 3: That's not special, But I think playing for two or
[37:56] Speaker 3: three years is a really big deal. Look at Matt
[37:58] Speaker 3: Leiner and you're you know, in LA like, He's still
[38:00] Speaker 3: a huge part of that program. He's parlayed it even
[38:02] Speaker 3: though his NFL career didn't go great. So I don't
[38:05] Speaker 3: think Arch is some lock even if it goes well
[38:07] Speaker 3: to go pro. Yeah.
[38:09] Speaker 1: The one guy, I said, Drew Aller's the one guy
[38:12] Speaker 1: at Penn State where I watched him a couple of
[38:14] Speaker 1: years ago. And I'm like, he's just not he's not
[38:16] Speaker 1: buttoned up, he's loose, he's not accurate. And then I
[38:19] Speaker 1: watched him last year and I was like, oh, that's
[38:21] Speaker 1: a first round quarterback. If he makes the same jump
[38:24] Speaker 1: this year and gets to like sixty eight percent completion
[38:26] Speaker 1: percentage with his size, that is a big time player.
[38:31] Speaker 1: He You know, we forget this all the time. These
[38:33] Speaker 1: guys are like twenty one, you know, like and now
[38:35] Speaker 1: they're in an NIOL world where there's a little bit
[38:38] Speaker 1: of pressure, like they're buying pizza, right, guys, I got
[38:40] Speaker 1: all the money so and Penn State's got an nil.
[38:43] Speaker 2: That's you know, reasonably noteworthy.
[38:45] Speaker 3: So no, I think Oklahoma feels that that Washington State
[38:48] Speaker 3: John Mattier. I mean, I would say the they're very
[38:51] Speaker 3: bullish on his prospects. I know NFL people are very
[38:54] Speaker 3: very excited, and obviously Oklahoma I think they think they're
[38:58] Speaker 3: going to be a lot better. They paid for a
[38:59] Speaker 3: lot of money and transfer portal they bring in this quarterback.
[39:02] Speaker 3: So you start comparing Matier and Arch and Materier already
[39:06] Speaker 3: has a year starting at Washington State, so he's played
[39:08] Speaker 3: a lot, and I understand Washington State in twenty twenty
[39:11] Speaker 3: four is not what it used to be. But still
[39:13] Speaker 3: he's played like Arch hasn't really played. He played the
[39:15] Speaker 3: two games against Nobody's and thrown in against Georgia, which
[39:18] Speaker 3: is not his fault. They just went with Quinn yours.
[39:20] Speaker 3: But you know that the conference in the SEC, which
[39:24] Speaker 3: I would say over the last fifteen years has been
[39:26] Speaker 3: more a positional conference. They've had a couple of good
[39:29] Speaker 3: quarterbacks this year. From a quarterback standpoint, Florida's got a quarterback,
[39:33] Speaker 3: South Carolina's got a quarterback, Oklahoma's got a quarterback. Obviously,
[39:36] Speaker 3: Texas as a quarterback access. It's it's gonna be a
[39:38] Speaker 3: pretty fascinating kind of little quarterback group. And then well
[39:42] Speaker 3: you know Alabama, Georgia and one of those teams at
[39:45] Speaker 3: nuss Meyer at LSU, you know, is viewed as a potential, yes,
[39:48] Speaker 3: top twenty pick. So it's a pretty good quarterback conference
[39:51] Speaker 3: this year. And we know they always got defensive lineman,
[39:54] Speaker 3: skilled guys dbs. I think the SEC is going to
[39:57] Speaker 3: be pretty interesting from a quarterback stamp point, because you know,
[40:01] Speaker 3: you look at the Big ten. I don't Ohio State
[40:04] Speaker 3: their quarterback. You know, it's pretty big shoes to fill,
[40:07] Speaker 3: I mean, will hour down the stretch looked like Peyton Manning. Obviously,
[40:11] Speaker 3: Michigan paid the kid twenty million dollars or whatever. It's
[40:15] Speaker 3: it's difficult
[40:18] Speaker 2: The volume

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