# What’s Wright - Best Of - Baker Mayfield MVP SEASON? Mahomes & Chiefs DYNASTY ON THE LINE?

An episode of [The Colin Cowherd Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1551365571), 21 Sep 2025, 38 min.

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Nick Wright reacts to Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' game-winning drive to beat CJ Stroud and the Houston Texans on Monday Night Football during Week 2 of the NFL season. Is Baker a legit MVP candidate? Are the Bucs in line to compete for the NFC's 1-seed? Later, Nick reacts to Justin Herbert's big night in the Los Angeles Chargers' 20-9 win over Geno Smith, Pete Carroll, and the Las Vegas Raiders. Are Jim Harbaugh's Chargers primed for their breakout year? Next, Nick reacts to Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, and the Kansas City Chiefs' 0-2 start to the NFL season after their 20-17 loss to Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles in Week 2. Are the Chiefs finally in jeopardy of losing the AFC West following Justin Herbert and the Los Angeles Chargers' 2-0 start? How nervous should KC fans actually be? Then, Nick breaks down why everything is at stake for KC as they are set to face off with Russell Wilson and the New York Giants on Sunday Night Football in Week 3 of the NFL season. #Volume See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Welcome to the best of the week for What's Right
[0:02] Speaker 1: with Nick Right the best takes in moments from this
[0:05] Speaker 1: week on the show. Enjoy.
[0:09] Speaker 2: So the Bucks moved to two to zero after a
[0:11] Speaker 2: late score led by Baker late in the game. Is
[0:14] Speaker 2: betting Baker down a score late in the game as
[0:16] Speaker 2: much of a lock is good of a lock these days?
[0:20] Speaker 1: Yeah? Listen, shout out producer Daniel, who texted the group
[0:27] Speaker 1: when Baker got the ball back down five? You know,
[0:31] Speaker 1: is this an auto bet? And I think we you know,
[0:35] Speaker 1: I bet it. I think he bet it. I also
[0:38] Speaker 1: had the Bucks parlayed with the Raiders, so I'm glad
[0:45] Speaker 1: I bet it because I ended up losing that one,
[0:48] Speaker 1: so this made up for it. I couple things about that.
[0:52] Speaker 1: One is about the specific game, and then I'll get
[0:56] Speaker 1: to Baker. I never feel like team or very often
[1:02] Speaker 1: announcers make a big enough deal of the two point
[1:08] Speaker 1: conversion to go up seven. So last night the Texans,
[1:13] Speaker 1: Nick Chubb breaks off this great run, so they score
[1:19] Speaker 1: with how much time is left? When they score two?
[1:23] Speaker 1: Ten left? And that two point conversion they go for
[1:29] Speaker 1: there is just so wildly important because you get it
[1:35] Speaker 1: and likely overtimes the worst case scenario, you don't get it,
[1:40] Speaker 1: and you almost feel like, man, do we wish Chub
[1:44] Speaker 1: hadn't have scored because if Chubb, if Chubb had gone down,
[1:49] Speaker 1: and then you're in a position where because they were
[1:54] Speaker 1: at the time Houston was down, what would they have
[1:58] Speaker 1: been down? They were down four? Right then, I'm an idiot?
[2:03] Speaker 1: Why can I not get this right? The they got?
[2:09] Speaker 1: Why am I so dumb? Right now? The score of
[2:12] Speaker 1: the game five was fourteen thirteen. Yeah, jesus, they're down one.
[2:20] Speaker 1: I'm such what the hell just happened there? And if
[2:24] Speaker 1: Chubb doesn't score, all of a sudden, Tampa is having
[2:29] Speaker 1: to use its timeouts. You're kicking a field goal, you know,
[2:32] Speaker 1: potentially later. But Chubb does score, that's great. You want
[2:35] Speaker 1: the seven, but what you need is the eight. They
[2:38] Speaker 1: don't get the two point conversion, and now Baker's in business.
[2:42] Speaker 1: All three timeouts two minutes can get going with that said,
[2:46] Speaker 1: Texans had him in fourth and ten, and then Baker
[2:49] Speaker 1: did some really cool Baker stuff, escaping the rush, running
[2:54] Speaker 1: seemingly got hurt, then got saved by the fact that
[3:00] Speaker 1: Chauncey Gardner Johnson was talking trash and all of a sudden,
[3:03] Speaker 1: he wasn't hurt anymore, and he popped up to talk
[3:05] Speaker 1: drafts right back to him. Baker is just the best,
[3:07] Speaker 1: and Baker absolutely can win League MVP this year. Absolutely can,
[3:14] Speaker 1: and the Bucks absolutely can be the one seed as
[3:18] Speaker 1: predicted on this show.
[3:21] Speaker 2: Bucks, No, why would I?
[3:28] Speaker 1: I mean, they have played two road games against teams
[3:33] Speaker 1: that were considered either possible or likely playoff teams. They
[3:39] Speaker 1: could have lost both, and Baker made game winning plays
[3:44] Speaker 1: in the waning moments of both. Now they get the Jets,
[3:48] Speaker 1: then a tough home game against the Eagles, but they
[3:51] Speaker 1: play the Eagles really well. Seahawks, Niners, Lions. It's not easy.
[3:57] Speaker 1: But no, they've got a real.
[4:00] Speaker 2: You're missing a couple of guys on offense right now too.
[4:02] Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, Godlin's going to be coming back. No, now,
[4:07] Speaker 1: I think they lost excuse me, Elijah Cantsey in that game.
[4:12] Speaker 1: That's concerning. But no, the Bucks are for real now.
[4:16] Speaker 1: On the Baker piece of it, it really gets lost
[4:23] Speaker 1: in the shuffle, Demons, not lost in the shuffle. But
[4:26] Speaker 1: I just want to reiterate this that the Cleveland Browns
[4:31] Speaker 1: spent the number one overall pick on Baker Mayfield watched
[4:37] Speaker 1: him in his second year win a playoff game for them,
[4:44] Speaker 1: and then they were like, yeah, he's not good enough
[4:46] Speaker 1: for us. They're like, yeah, we can do better. You're
[4:52] Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. And you decided that Baker Mayfield was
[5:00] Speaker 1: not uh And I said in his second year he
[5:03] Speaker 1: won the playoff game. It was in his third year
[5:05] Speaker 1: he won the playoff game. Pardon me, you decided a
[5:10] Speaker 1: guy who won a playoff game as a Browns homegrown
[5:14] Speaker 1: starting quarterback wasn't good enough for you because Odell Beckham
[5:19] Speaker 1: Junior's dad put out an Instagram mixtape ripping It in
[5:24] Speaker 1: a year he played hurt It and now you're just
[5:30] Speaker 1: in hell. It's really really unbelievable. And I love seeing
[5:37] Speaker 1: Baker have this success. I love it so much. The
[5:41] Speaker 1: flip side demons is panic meter is at a seven
[5:50] Speaker 1: for the Texans and for CJ.
[5:56] Speaker 2: Like, if you're losing, like after, he shouldn't bring it
[5:59] Speaker 2: out in the third game. He's done at the first
[6:00] Speaker 2: two games. He shouldn't be able to.
[6:02] Speaker 1: I don't even know. I'll be honest, I don't even
[6:04] Speaker 1: know what you're talking about.
[6:05] Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it's it's probably algorithm. Well, he's like doing
[6:10] Speaker 2: between the legs, walking up and down the field. Maybe
[6:13] Speaker 2: you throwing out your receivers or something. Guys need to
[6:16] Speaker 2: be more in tune. But yeah, while losing that, you
[6:20] Speaker 2: can't be doing that. Just feel like the sport.
[6:24] Speaker 1: No I like it. I mean, I mean I like
[6:27] Speaker 1: your your critique of.
[6:30] Speaker 2: It, but yeah, like you said, ever since he said
[6:33] Speaker 2: that thing to Caleb Williams, it's just kind of been
[6:35] Speaker 2: on a downward slope.
[6:37] Speaker 1: Contractually obligated to give you guys the numbers on this one, CJ. Stroud.
[6:43] Speaker 1: Let me see if I can get Football Reference to
[6:46] Speaker 1: cooperate with me. CJ. Stroud through that game with Caleb
[6:51] Speaker 1: Williams in the regular season in his career eleven and
[6:57] Speaker 1: six twenty six touchdowns, five picks, a one oh one rating. CJ.
[7:05] Speaker 1: Stroud since he told Caleb Williams, come here, a young fellow,
[7:09] Speaker 1: let me teach you a thing or two. Eight and
[7:13] Speaker 1: nine eighteen touchdowns, thirteen picks and eighty five rating, life
[7:21] Speaker 1: can come out with your fast man and the Texans
[7:23] Speaker 1: offensive operation just does not look good. The defense is
[7:27] Speaker 1: still awesome, but what the Texans have going for them,
[7:32] Speaker 1: obviously is the division. They're in and if you don't
[7:36] Speaker 1: believe in the Colts, that division's gonna feel winnable. But
[7:44] Speaker 1: they they're at Jacksonville this weekend, big game. That's that's
[7:49] Speaker 1: for both teams. Big game, big game. Then they get
[7:53] Speaker 1: a little respit against the Titans. Then it's at the
[7:56] Speaker 1: Ravens at Seattle. It's tough man and so yeah, I'd
[8:04] Speaker 1: be I'd be a little more than a little nervous
[8:07] Speaker 1: if I were the Texans. All right, let's get to
[8:09] Speaker 1: the other Monday night game.
[8:13] Speaker 2: So the Chargers look good again for the most part
[8:16] Speaker 2: last night with another divisional win. Do you think this
[8:19] Speaker 2: is the cream of the crop in that division?
[8:23] Speaker 1: Listen, I think the Chiefs will end up winning the division,
[8:27] Speaker 1: but I have to give the Chargers have looked really good. Now.
[8:32] Speaker 1: I thought the Chargers at the end of the game,
[8:34] Speaker 1: as I said earlier, made some really really poor game
[8:40] Speaker 1: management decisions, and I don't understand like the Chargers. It's fine,
[8:45] Speaker 1: I guess, but it is odd to me that both
[8:49] Speaker 1: the Chargers and Otter for the Raiders spent such premium
[8:54] Speaker 1: draft picks on running backs and don't want to give
[8:57] Speaker 1: them the ball like the Raiders refuse usual to get
[9:01] Speaker 1: Ashton Genty involved, and it's like, because he's not good
[9:04] Speaker 1: in pass protection, we'll just have I understand, you don't
[9:07] Speaker 1: want to tip your hand on Oh we're running this
[9:10] Speaker 1: guy's you know on the field, But you can't spend
[9:13] Speaker 1: the sixth pick of the draft on a guy he was,
[9:18] Speaker 1: you know, and give him eleven carries in a game
[9:20] Speaker 1: where Gino's having the worst game of his career. Just
[9:24] Speaker 1: can't do it. And the Chargers defense looks awesome and
[9:31] Speaker 1: Herbert's been really good. My only Charger concern is I
[9:35] Speaker 1: think Herbert's running it too much, and that is concerning
[9:40] Speaker 1: the other piece of that game is and do we
[9:43] Speaker 1: have any reporting on what Khalil Mack's injury was. I
[9:50] Speaker 1: know that he was in a sling and he was
[9:52] Speaker 1: holding his arm and so that didn't look good. That
[9:55] Speaker 1: could be really damaging as well the Raiders. The It
[10:00] Speaker 1: would have been amazing if the Raiders could have started
[10:03] Speaker 1: three and oh, all right, I'm sorry, two and oh
[10:08] Speaker 1: they they'll they'll take one in one, especially because Demon's
[10:14] Speaker 1: Raiders next four at the Commanders in a game Jayden
[10:18] Speaker 1: might not play, then Home Bears at calls Home Titans.
[10:24] Speaker 1: Raiders really need to make Hey this next month and
[10:27] Speaker 1: Geno will bounce back. That was a really rough Geno game,
[10:31] Speaker 1: and we talked a little bit about the Chargers earlier.
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[12:47] Speaker 1: act like everything's fine with the Chiefs right now. It is.
[12:52] Speaker 1: There are some I want to focus on the concern
[13:00] Speaker 1: things that have occurred in both games. Okay, So for instance,
[13:06] Speaker 1: Week one, the secondary, which has been a strength of
[13:10] Speaker 1: this team, looked hugely problematic against Herbert and the Chargers.
[13:16] Speaker 1: Week two, I thought the secondary looked really good. Right,
[13:19] Speaker 1: So like that's the one good game, one bad game.
[13:23] Speaker 1: I'm not focusing on that. Here is what through two
[13:26] Speaker 1: weeks looks problematic, and I don't know where the solve
[13:32] Speaker 1: for it is. The Chiefs running game is as inept
[13:39] Speaker 1: right now as it's ever been since Patrick's been there.
[13:44] Speaker 1: Pachecko sadly just does not look like the same player
[13:48] Speaker 1: he was before he broke his leg. And what's odd
[13:53] Speaker 1: about it is his biggest problem through two weeks doesn't
[13:57] Speaker 1: seem to be explosion. It seems to be vision and
[14:02] Speaker 1: hitting the right hole. You wouldn't think that is related
[14:06] Speaker 1: to a lower body injury, but he just hasn't been effective.
[14:11] Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt is who he is. If you need one
[14:15] Speaker 1: yard more way, more often than not, he will get
[14:19] Speaker 1: it for you, but he has no chance of getting
[14:22] Speaker 1: you ten. And they brought in Elijah Mitchell. Nothing's happened there.
[14:27] Speaker 1: They drafted Brischard Smith in the I think seventh round.
[14:30] Speaker 1: He's seventh round rookie. Like they just right now don't
[14:34] Speaker 1: have the horses in the running back room, and that
[14:38] Speaker 1: is a spot that I would not at all hate
[14:44] Speaker 1: for them to be active on in the trade market.
[14:50] Speaker 1: I think we have. There has been a lot of
[14:52] Speaker 1: discussion of should the Chiefs trade for Tyreek Hill? The
[14:56] Speaker 1: wide receivers are coming back, Okay, I if I were
[15:02] Speaker 1: doing a trade with Miami, I might be equally, if
[15:06] Speaker 1: not more, interested in Devin h Chan Like I think
[15:10] Speaker 1: that there are you running backs will be and should
[15:16] Speaker 1: be available, and that might be a spot that they
[15:19] Speaker 1: have to bite the bullet and spend some draft capital
[15:22] Speaker 1: via trade on. So that's one piece and here's another one.
[15:28] Speaker 1: As good as Josh Simmons has been at the left
[15:32] Speaker 1: tackle spot, Patrick still doesn't feel totally comfortable in his protection. Now,
[15:38] Speaker 1: some of that's been the left guard spot's been really problematic.
[15:43] Speaker 1: But Creed's great, Tray's great, Simmons is really good. Joan
[15:49] Speaker 1: Taylor when he's not committing penalties is fine, and Patrick
[15:53] Speaker 1: just seems like he doesn't trust it right now. And
[15:58] Speaker 1: I am as he's confident in Patrick Mahomes as any
[16:02] Speaker 1: player that's ever played in the league, that he will
[16:05] Speaker 1: figure stuff out. And there have been times this season
[16:08] Speaker 1: where it has felt like he's out there. I don't
[16:11] Speaker 1: want to say by himself, but nobody can get open.
[16:15] Speaker 1: They can't run the ball, which has forced him to
[16:18] Speaker 1: and this is the part of the season that I
[16:20] Speaker 1: have liked the absolute least. It has forced him to
[16:25] Speaker 1: activate playoff running Mahomes in weeks one and two, and
[16:30] Speaker 1: I despise that because obviously it puts him in jeopardy,
[16:39] Speaker 1: which is the biggest concern. But the other thing is
[16:42] Speaker 1: one of the reasons he has had the postseason success
[16:47] Speaker 1: that he's had. One of the reasons he has been
[16:50] Speaker 1: so much more dynamic and effective statistically and from a
[16:57] Speaker 1: winning perspective on a per game basis than any other
[17:00] Speaker 1: quarterback in the history of the league come the postseason
[17:03] Speaker 1: is because every single postseason he adds a huge weapon
[17:10] Speaker 1: to his game that is not there in the regular season,
[17:13] Speaker 1: which is the quarterback runs the scrambles, and if he's
[17:17] Speaker 1: using that during the regular season. It has just multiple concerns.
[17:22] Speaker 1: One is he can get banged up. Another is you're
[17:26] Speaker 1: not getting that auto postseason boost. Like Josh Allen and
[17:31] Speaker 1: Lamar are unbelievable runners at the quarterback position. They do
[17:36] Speaker 1: it starting in Week one and never stop. So it
[17:39] Speaker 1: doesn't add an element to their game come the playoffs.
[17:43] Speaker 1: It has for Patrick and the last listen issue on
[17:47] Speaker 1: offense is the greatest tight end in the history of
[17:50] Speaker 1: the league has had a really rough two weeks. There's
[17:54] Speaker 1: no way around it. Third play of the season. I
[17:58] Speaker 1: thought it was Xavier's mistake. He says it was his
[18:01] Speaker 1: mistake that he ran the wrong depth of his route
[18:04] Speaker 1: and Xavier's hurt. Later in that game, he and Patrick
[18:08] Speaker 1: aren't on quite the same page. When they're down nine
[18:12] Speaker 1: about to score, they don't connect on what would have
[18:15] Speaker 1: been a touchdown. And then obviously the Eagles game, they're
[18:20] Speaker 1: about to take the lead and he bobbles a pass
[18:25] Speaker 1: and it turns into a game changing interception. That's all.
[18:32] Speaker 1: It's been highly damaging. I don't know if it's yet
[18:36] Speaker 1: highly concerning, but it's highly damaging. Okay, So there is
[18:41] Speaker 1: that piece of it on the defensive side of the ball.
[18:46] Speaker 1: The only complaint I have after week two is they
[18:53] Speaker 1: cannot seem to get pressure without sending a blitz, like
[18:57] Speaker 1: if they rush for they just can't and not get home.
[19:01] Speaker 1: So I don't know if that means the rookies Ashton
[19:04] Speaker 1: Jalot or Omar Norman Lot need to be more effective.
[19:08] Speaker 1: Certainly Charles Amena who needs to be more effective. Mike
[19:12] Speaker 1: Dana got hurt in this game. That didn't help. George
[19:15] Speaker 1: Garloft has just got paid by this team, he needs
[19:19] Speaker 1: to be more effective. Like Chris Jones is a man
[19:23] Speaker 1: on an island at times. And so those are real problems, okay,
[19:30] Speaker 1: And right now the Chiefs don't deserve to be anything
[19:36] Speaker 1: close to Super Bowl favorites. I'm not gonna sit here
[19:39] Speaker 1: and act like, ah, they got unlucky, they got this. No.
[19:43] Speaker 1: If anything, it is surprising that they have had a
[19:50] Speaker 1: chance to win both of these games when they haven't
[19:55] Speaker 1: played well. They've missed kicks in both games, they have
[20:00] Speaker 1: haven't forced a turnover. So that is the true and fair,
[20:05] Speaker 1: sober analysis of where the Chiefs are through two weeks.
[20:10] Speaker 1: Anything past that is nonsense. Anyone trying to pedal Wow,
[20:20] Speaker 1: should they be worried about making the playoffs. I think
[20:24] Speaker 1: has lost their mind. Now is the division for the
[20:31] Speaker 1: first time in jeopardy. Yeah, when you're zero to two
[20:39] Speaker 1: and a team that beat you is two to zero
[20:42] Speaker 1: with a divisional win, it's understandable that the Chiefs are
[20:50] Speaker 1: no longer the favorites in the division Demons And where
[20:54] Speaker 1: where does hard Rock Bet have them at right now?
[20:57] Speaker 2: They've got them at plus two forty to win the division?
[21:00] Speaker 2: Should you hammer that?
[21:03] Speaker 1: I mean, listen, as it's not surprising to you. Probably
[21:06] Speaker 1: I have a lot of exposure already on the Chiefs,
[21:10] Speaker 1: you know, futures and season and win total. But I
[21:14] Speaker 1: think plus two point forty is good value right now
[21:21] Speaker 1: when I do right now, if I had to pick it,
[21:24] Speaker 1: I would still pick the Chiefs to win the division.
[21:26] Speaker 1: And part of that is some concerning stuff I saw
[21:34] Speaker 1: no from no from the Chargers the Houston doesn't apply
[21:39] Speaker 1: here from the Chargers last night late in that game,
[21:44] Speaker 1: and we'll get into that when we talk about the Chargers.
[21:46] Speaker 1: I thought the Chargers almost went out of their way
[21:50] Speaker 1: to try to keep the Raiders in that game. And
[21:54] Speaker 1: it's what's true for Patrick is true for all these quarterbacks.
[21:59] Speaker 1: Any quarterback that's running a ton early in the year,
[22:03] Speaker 1: I get worried about. And Justin Herbert's running a lot,
[22:07] Speaker 1: and you know that I think that, And he took
[22:10] Speaker 1: a wicked shot yesterday, and then they also had him
[22:15] Speaker 1: late in the game when the game was decided to
[22:18] Speaker 1: another quarterback run that I totally didn't understand. And so
[22:23] Speaker 1: I still believe the Chiefs are the best team in
[22:26] Speaker 1: the AFC West. You can't right now say they're better
[22:30] Speaker 1: than Buffalo or Baltimore. You can say, however, right now,
[22:37] Speaker 1: in a span of two quick weeks, after for the
[22:41] Speaker 1: last few years the AFC clearly being the better of
[22:47] Speaker 1: the two conferences, the NFC right now seems far superior
[22:53] Speaker 1: and far deeper. Like demon's who in the AFC East Buffalo, Miami,
[23:01] Speaker 1: New England, the Jets. There's one team you believe in
[23:05] Speaker 1: in Buffalo, the AFC North, Baltimore, since Pittsburgh, Cleveland, there's
[23:14] Speaker 1: one team you believe in the AFC South. Right now,
[23:19] Speaker 1: there might be zero teams you believe in unless you
[23:23] Speaker 1: or the generic you to the audience really does believe
[23:27] Speaker 1: what the culture doing is sustainable. I don't know that
[23:30] Speaker 1: I believe it the AFC West, on the other hand,
[23:33] Speaker 1: might have a bunch of you know, the Chargers, the Broncos,
[23:36] Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Raiders. Still like it is, It's remarkable
[23:42] Speaker 1: to me how open the middle part of the conferences.
[23:49] Speaker 1: And so I think it's fair to say the Chiefs
[23:52] Speaker 1: have basically not punted but given up the opportunity to
[23:56] Speaker 1: be the one seed. You know, I think that's fair.
[24:00] Speaker 1: I think there's you know, there are real things they
[24:02] Speaker 1: need to clean up. I also feel this way, they
[24:07] Speaker 1: are potentially twelve days away from everyone saying how silly
[24:17] Speaker 1: we should feel for writing off the Chiefs because you
[24:22] Speaker 1: beat the Giants this weekend. You didn't have a game
[24:26] Speaker 1: against Baltimore that if you win, you're right back to
[24:30] Speaker 1: being the Chiefs and all this stuff about oh the
[24:34] Speaker 1: mystique is gone or this or that that's gone like
[24:37] Speaker 1: that and that conversation is gone and so big but
[24:44] Speaker 1: big next few weeks and big stretch of time before
[24:48] Speaker 1: Rashi comes back. Xavier might be back this weekend, he'll
[24:52] Speaker 1: definitely be back for the Raven game. And listen, they
[24:59] Speaker 1: need to have a receiver that can beat man to
[25:03] Speaker 1: man coverage and the idea that like mahomes is being
[25:10] Speaker 1: exposed without a dynamic receiver is belied by the fact
[25:17] Speaker 1: that he won League MVP with a receiving corps led
[25:22] Speaker 1: by juju An MVS, and the next year won Super
[25:27] Speaker 1: Bowl MVP with an even worse receiving corps. And last
[25:31] Speaker 1: year they went fifteen to two and made the Super
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[26:31] Speaker 2: Let's talk Chief Giants. A big game for your boys
[26:34] Speaker 2: over there in narrow Head. Yeah, so they got the
[26:36] Speaker 2: Giants this Sunday. They are zero and two. For the
[26:39] Speaker 2: first time in the Mahomes era they faced the Giants. Obviously,
[26:43] Speaker 2: they are one and eleven in the last twelve at MetLife.
[26:46] Speaker 2: What is at stake for Kansas City here?
[26:50] Speaker 1: Well, I if they were to lose Sunday, I are
[26:58] Speaker 1: They're one to eleven in the last twelve met Life. Yeah,
[27:02] Speaker 1: I was gonna say it wouldn't that was like that.
[27:04] Speaker 1: That number surprised me. I'm sure it's not that. I
[27:07] Speaker 1: wonder what their record is the Giants in their last
[27:09] Speaker 1: twelve last games. It can't be really good. It might
[27:11] Speaker 1: be four and eight, but one of eleven in the
[27:13] Speaker 1: last twelve night games. Here's the deal. If I'm being honest,
[27:22] Speaker 1: I will not if they lose Sunday. I won't feel
[27:28] Speaker 1: in my bones that they can't rally and make the playoffs.
[27:33] Speaker 1: And if the Chiefs make the playoffs, I'm sure by
[27:36] Speaker 1: the you know, if they were to fall to zero
[27:37] Speaker 1: and three and then make the playoffs. I'm sure by
[27:40] Speaker 1: the time the playoffs were all around all really like
[27:43] Speaker 1: their chances. But I am now saying sober minded before
[27:48] Speaker 1: the game. If they lose Sunday, it will signal that
[27:54] Speaker 1: this team is not a true contender the way Rechiefs
[28:00] Speaker 1: team has been since Mahomes got there, not because they
[28:04] Speaker 1: can't rally from zero to three, but because if you
[28:10] Speaker 1: can't beat the New York Giants in a game, you've
[28:14] Speaker 1: got to have without and you should have Xavier Worthy
[28:20] Speaker 1: back for it. I would think, so the only super
[28:23] Speaker 1: key player you're missing is Rashid Rice, then you're not
[28:27] Speaker 1: going to be good enough over the course of the
[28:30] Speaker 1: season to be a real super Bowl contender. So for Giants,
[28:36] Speaker 1: by the way, five and twelve at home since twenty
[28:39] Speaker 1: twenty three, So it's about what we would have thought.
[28:43] Speaker 1: So that's what's on the line. I have joked, not
[28:47] Speaker 1: really joked, that Mahomes has never had to play a
[28:56] Speaker 1: meaningful regular season game, and that is a little hyperbolic,
[29:04] Speaker 1: but in fact, I think what I've said is Mahomes
[29:08] Speaker 1: has never lost a meaningful regular season game, and that
[29:13] Speaker 1: to me was literally true until two years ago when
[29:18] Speaker 1: they actually had to go on the road in the playoffs,
[29:21] Speaker 1: with my argument having been the whole point of the
[29:23] Speaker 1: regular season is to get the best seat as possible
[29:26] Speaker 1: and to get home field in the playoffs. And if
[29:29] Speaker 1: the Chiefs have never gone on the road in the playoffs,
[29:31] Speaker 1: then none of the losses have ever hurt them. Two
[29:33] Speaker 1: years ago when they did have to go on the
[29:36] Speaker 1: road in the playoffs, some of those losses I suppose
[29:38] Speaker 1: did hurt them, but none of those games demons felt
[29:43] Speaker 1: like they had the stakes of Sunday Night. You can,
[29:51] Speaker 1: I think, explain away the first two weeks. Week one,
[29:58] Speaker 1: whole game plans thrown off off by Worthy getting hurt.
[30:02] Speaker 1: They you know, they they don't play well, they can't.
[30:06] Speaker 1: Herbert's playing out of his mind, you know. And the
[30:09] Speaker 1: Chargers win a neutral site game. Okay, you know what
[30:12] Speaker 1: I mean, not what you'd hope for, but okay. Game two,
[30:18] Speaker 1: the Chiefs again can't really get the passing game going
[30:22] Speaker 1: without their two star receivers or potential star receivers. Despite that,
[30:28] Speaker 1: and despite missing a kick and despite failing on a
[30:31] Speaker 1: fourth down early in the third quarter, they're on the
[30:35] Speaker 1: precipice of taking the lead and having control of the game,
[30:39] Speaker 1: and Kelsey makes a mistake, you know what I mean,
[30:41] Speaker 1: And you're playing a great team in Philadelphia. Fine, again,
[30:46] Speaker 1: not good and not excuses and not saying the Chiefs
[30:49] Speaker 1: deserve to win either game, but neither one of those
[30:53] Speaker 1: in a vacuum. If either one of those games had
[30:56] Speaker 1: happened in week five or Week eight or week twelve,
[31:00] Speaker 1: no one be concerned about it. You know what I mean. Okay,
[31:03] Speaker 1: you lose a one score neutral site game to a
[31:05] Speaker 1: contender in the Chargers. You lose a three point hard
[31:08] Speaker 1: fought game to the Eagles, so be it. Because they
[31:13] Speaker 1: happen in weeks one and two, and they're on the
[31:16] Speaker 1: heels of the Chiefs getting dog walked in the super Bowl.
[31:19] Speaker 1: It feels seismic, but in reality it's understandable. Losing to
[31:26] Speaker 1: the Giants this weekend would not be understandable. It would
[31:30] Speaker 1: mean that they are there are some systemic issues with
[31:38] Speaker 1: the team for this season that are not fixable to
[31:44] Speaker 1: the tune of going on a Super Bowl run. And
[31:48] Speaker 1: so that's what's on the line for Kansas City in
[31:52] Speaker 1: this game. I know you have some follow ups here.
[31:56] Speaker 2: Yeah, are you still worried at all? About the pass
[31:58] Speaker 2: rush and Russ comeing off of probably his best game,
[32:01] Speaker 2: or one of his best games in his career.
[32:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how you can. I
[32:06] Speaker 1: don't know how you cannot be worried about the pass rush,
[32:10] Speaker 1: to be totally honest with you, Like Chris Jones tends
[32:15] Speaker 1: to get better as this season goes along. I know
[32:18] Speaker 1: he's an older player. I still believe he's the best
[32:22] Speaker 1: de tackle in football. He hasn't been dominant the first
[32:26] Speaker 1: two weeks, but I believe in Chris Carloftis just got paid.
[32:36] Speaker 1: Carloftis was a first round pick. Carloftis needs to be better.
[32:41] Speaker 1: And then the other guys Mike Dana who's hurt now,
[32:45] Speaker 1: Charles Amenaho who has been disappointing and been wholly ineffective
[32:51] Speaker 1: thus far this season, and then you have Ashton Gillette,
[32:54] Speaker 1: Gelot Jellette, my apologies a rookie, Omar Norman rookie. They've
[33:00] Speaker 1: gotta be able to create some type of pressure without
[33:05] Speaker 1: sending a blitz. With that said, I Russ having four
[33:11] Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards last week does to me, does
[33:14] Speaker 1: not play into this at all.
[33:16] Speaker 2: Like I.
[33:19] Speaker 1: Last week, Russ was unbelievable. I don't think that was
[33:24] Speaker 1: him all of a sudden, turning back the clock permanently.
[33:27] Speaker 1: I think that was him turning back the clock for
[33:30] Speaker 1: an evening. Now, let me give you the bright side
[33:37] Speaker 1: of if they win. Okay, if they win, and I
[33:44] Speaker 1: believe they will win, I don't necessarily think it'll be pretty.
[33:48] Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think it'll be easy. But I am
[33:52] Speaker 1: arrow deep confident they'll win. They win all of a sudden,
[34:02] Speaker 1: they are playing a week four game to totally flip
[34:07] Speaker 1: every narrative that's existed thus far. Because you know who
[34:11] Speaker 1: comes to Kansas City in Week four? Your Baltimore Ravens. Yeah,
[34:16] Speaker 1: and the so the the what are you shaking your
[34:20] Speaker 1: head about?
[34:21] Speaker 2: Tell me, no, boys need to be worried.
[34:24] Speaker 1: Oh the Chiefs need to be worried. Maybe, but but
[34:27] Speaker 1: just follow me down this path. The point I'm making
[34:30] Speaker 1: is the Chiefs then will have in front of them
[34:35] Speaker 1: the ability, if they win Sunday, to say, we win
[34:40] Speaker 1: this home game against a team we literally always beat,
[34:46] Speaker 1: and they're the AFC contender everyone's worried about. We get
[34:50] Speaker 1: the whole Oh, if people freaked out about the Chiefs,
[34:53] Speaker 1: they had this brutal opening schedule. You know, they dealt
[34:56] Speaker 1: with an injury, dealt with a suspension. They're two and
[34:59] Speaker 1: two anyway, and Baltimore leaves that game at best two
[35:03] Speaker 1: and two, and we'll see what happens in Baltimore Detroit
[35:06] Speaker 1: on Monday night or I don't know if that's Monday
[35:08] Speaker 1: or Sunday, Sunday night. I know it's a night game.
[35:13] Speaker 1: Oh no, the Chiefs Sunday night obviously, so it's Monday night,
[35:17] Speaker 1: and maybe Baltimore is the team everyone's freaking out about, right,
[35:21] Speaker 1: And so certainly if Baltimore loses to Detroit, people will
[35:26] Speaker 1: be freaking out if they fall to one and three,
[35:28] Speaker 1: so they just have the opportunity to turn the whole thing.
[35:33] Speaker 1: It will not feel that way at all if they
[35:39] Speaker 1: lose to the Giants. If they lose to the Giants,
[35:43] Speaker 1: they will just feel like a bad team with a
[35:45] Speaker 1: great quarterback. And I don't believe that's what they are,
[35:50] Speaker 1: but they got to go prove it Sunday night.
[35:54] Speaker 2: So you have seven teams above the Chiefs right now,
[35:57] Speaker 2: and the Tears. I know that has to kill you.
[35:59] Speaker 2: Is this the worst that you felt about the Mahomes?
[36:02] Speaker 2: The worst that you felt about the Chiefs in the Mahomes.
[36:04] Speaker 1: Era, No, the worst I felt about them was post
[36:13] Speaker 1: It was the twenty twenty one season. They had just
[36:18] Speaker 1: gotten annihilated by the Box in the Super Bowl, and
[36:25] Speaker 1: that next year, not only did they start three and four,
[36:31] Speaker 1: but some ugly moments. Week one, they were playing Cleveland
[36:36] Speaker 1: and escaped with a win. Week two, Baltimore goes for
[36:44] Speaker 1: a fourth down late and beats them. Week three the Chargers,
[36:50] Speaker 1: if I beat them at the buzzer essentially, and then
[36:55] Speaker 1: week five they get annihilated by the Bills. And then
[37:00] Speaker 1: week seven they get annihilated twenty seven to three by
[37:07] Speaker 1: the Titans. The Titans, and so that team fell to
[37:15] Speaker 1: three and four, and you know, at that point, I
[37:19] Speaker 1: guess you include the Super Bowl, had lost five out
[37:22] Speaker 1: of eight and it was up until that Super Bowl
[37:27] Speaker 1: against the Bucks, Mahomes had never lost a game by
[37:31] Speaker 1: more than eight points. And then all of a sudden,
[37:34] Speaker 1: they get blasted in the Super Bowl. They get beat
[37:36] Speaker 1: by eighteen by Buffalo, they get beat by twenty four
[37:40] Speaker 1: by Tennessee, and a span of you know, two months
[37:43] Speaker 1: or two football months, that was the low point. Now
[37:47] Speaker 1: that team ended up going from three and four to
[37:50] Speaker 1: twelve and five, and then in the AFC Championship Game,
[37:54] Speaker 1: up twenty one to three at half time before that
[37:56] Speaker 1: second half meltdown against Cincinnati. And that was the only
[38:00] Speaker 1: year in this six year stretch they haven't made the
[38:04] Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But that was the worst I've ever felt
[38:07] Speaker 1: about them. This this so but this is.
[38:11] Speaker 2: Second the Giants. Okay, yeah, I was able to say
[38:14] Speaker 2: with a Giants win on Sunday, it's getting pretty oh no, no, no.
[38:17] Speaker 1: A Giants win puts us in totally new territory.

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