# 3 & Out - Jared Goff & Lions DEFEAT Bucs + Darnold LEADS Seahawks to win vs. Texans

An episode of [The Colin Cowherd Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1551365571), 21 Oct 2025, 1 h 28 min.

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Former NFL scout John Middlekauff is reacting LIVE immediately following the Week 7 Monday Night Football doubleheader between Baker Mayfield’s Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs. Jared Goff’s Detroit Lions and C.J. Stroud’s Houston Texans vs. Sam Darnold’s Seattle Seahawks. John then reacts to Denver Broncos LB Dre Greenlaw getting suspended for 1 game for an altercation with the referee after their Week 7 win over. the New York Giants. Next, John reacts to reports that former Philadelphia Eagles LB Brandon Graham will be signing with the team this week. John wraps up by speculating if the Tennessee Titans regret drafting Cam Ward over Jaxson Dart with the number overall pick at the NFL draft Finally, John answers your questions in this episode's mailbag segment. 04:32 - Texans-Seahawks 20:17 - Buccaneers-Lions 31:31 - Broncos LB Dre Greenlaw suspended 33:46 - Brandon Graham returning to Eagles 35:17 - Cam Ward or Jaxson Dart? 38:30 - Mailbag Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest. All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow - for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #Volume See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on, everybody? How are we doing?
[0:18] Speaker 1: John Middlecoff three and Now podcast. It's a late one,
[0:21] Speaker 1: It's like eleven thirty on Monday night, but that's what
[0:23] Speaker 1: we do. We work because we had a double header
[0:25] Speaker 1: for Monday night football. So we're gonna dive into Seattle
[0:28] Speaker 1: and Houston Rough offensive performance in the second half. Those
[0:33] Speaker 1: two defenses are sweet though, and then Jared Goff, Jamiir Gibbs,
[0:38] Speaker 1: Dan Campbell and the Lions five and two. The Bucks
[0:41] Speaker 1: are five and two, but Mike Evans breaks his collar bones.
[0:44] Speaker 1: We'll dive into that. Some other league news. We had
[0:48] Speaker 1: something happened with Dre Greenlaw. After that, Denver bronco win,
[0:51] Speaker 1: Brandon Graham is he about to return? And then a
[0:54] Speaker 1: stat I saw with Jackson Dart as well as a
[0:57] Speaker 1: mailbag at Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms?
[1:03] Speaker 1: Get your questions answered here on the show Big mail
[1:06] Speaker 1: Bag Today. And other than that, you guys know the drill.
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[1:16] Speaker 1: and roll before we dive into any football, specifically the
[1:19] Speaker 1: Monday night doubleheader. You know I gotta tell you all
[1:21] Speaker 1: my friends, you know, I gotta tell you about my partners.
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[1:26] Speaker 1: to go to one of these games? There had to
[1:27] Speaker 1: be people in that Seattle crowd and the place had
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[1:32] Speaker 1: World Series game. We're gonna play the Dodgers in the
[1:35] Speaker 1: world so that they're up three to one. Then all
[1:37] Speaker 1: of a sudden, I get a group text. I'm like,
[1:38] Speaker 1: check out the score. Because I wasn't even watching the game,
[1:40] Speaker 1: I assume Seattle was gonna win. Springer hits the home
[1:43] Speaker 1: run the Blue Jays, you know, a little throwback to
[1:46] Speaker 1: Joe Carter when I was a kid. Blue Jays Dodgers.
[1:48] Speaker 1: I don't think that was the World Series, But Dodger
[1:50] Speaker 1: you're gonna smoke them. But if you want to go
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[2:33] Speaker 1: offensive coordinator is obviously hard. It is not easy all
[2:37] Speaker 1: of us, whether you've worked in the NFL, whether you
[2:41] Speaker 1: sell insurance, whether you just gamble a lot on football.
[2:44] Speaker 1: We all can be very critical on our couch, powering
[2:48] Speaker 1: down a gatorade and some popcorn. I'm no different than
[2:52] Speaker 1: any of you. We all scream ubscenities constantly when guys
[2:56] Speaker 1: call bad plays. But the second half of that game,
[3:00] Speaker 1: the Texans against Seattle is an all time head scratcher,
[3:03] Speaker 1: and I'm gonna start with the winning team. Kubiak comes
[3:07] Speaker 1: from a family, that is all. When you say the
[3:10] Speaker 1: Kubiaks the Shanahans, all you think is running the ball,
[3:13] Speaker 1: run the ball, run the ball, run the ball, and
[3:15] Speaker 1: then pass it off. That and tonight it felt like
[3:19] Speaker 1: he was hell bent on proving Sam Darnold is like
[3:23] Speaker 1: an MVP candidate, even up double digit points in the
[3:27] Speaker 1: second half against I don't know if they're the best
[3:30] Speaker 1: defense we can determine based on different metrics. They are
[3:33] Speaker 1: easily one of the most talented defenses in the NFL,
[3:36] Speaker 1: and their two strengths are rushing the passer and dB play.
[3:40] Speaker 1: Derek Stingley is like a Deon Sanders Durell Reeves level athlete.
[3:44] Speaker 1: You're up big and you keep throwing the ball. It
[3:48] Speaker 1: makes no sense. You got two good running backs. The
[3:50] Speaker 1: only way and this goes back to the De Marcado
[3:54] Speaker 1: play when the Titans came back. This goes back yesterday
[3:57] Speaker 1: when the Giants imploded with Denver. The only way. Game
[4:00] Speaker 1: like that, whether you have a big lead or you're
[4:02] Speaker 1: playing an offense that's inept, they can come back, especially
[4:06] Speaker 1: if there's twenty plus minutes on the clock left in
[4:09] Speaker 1: the game. You have to give them a free possession.
[4:12] Speaker 1: And Kubiak's calling these pass plays. I'd even go back
[4:15] Speaker 1: to the touchdown that you know almost was a safety,
[4:19] Speaker 1: but then they fell on it, so it was a touchdown.
[4:21] Speaker 1: It's like you are asking Sam Darnold to throw backed
[4:24] Speaker 1: up in his own end zone. You could blame Sam,
[4:27] Speaker 1: he's doing like a three sixty in the end zone.
[4:28] Speaker 1: You can't turn your back in that moment. But what
[4:31] Speaker 1: are you doing? Why are we out thinking the room here?
[4:34] Speaker 1: Just run the ball. Honestly, the two offensive coordinators tonight
[4:37] Speaker 1: were the polar opposites. One guy, run the ball, run
[4:41] Speaker 1: the ball, run the ball again, and run the ball again.
[4:44] Speaker 1: And I thought, all night, Kubiak, and maybe it's Monday
[4:47] Speaker 1: night football, you're trying to prove you're a star offensive coordinator.
[4:52] Speaker 1: I don't know him personally. I know a lot of
[4:54] Speaker 1: people that know him. They think really highly of him. Clearly,
[4:56] Speaker 1: I think he's pretty talented. But I thought tonight he
[4:58] Speaker 1: got really cute. You go to the first half, they
[5:01] Speaker 1: are kicking the shit out of the Texans. Two touchdowns immediately,
[5:05] Speaker 1: fourteen nothing. They're driving again. It's like you go up
[5:08] Speaker 1: twenty one to nothing against that offense. The game is
[5:11] Speaker 1: over and they are driving right down the field that
[5:14] Speaker 1: they do not need to call trick plays. There is
[5:16] Speaker 1: no trickeration needed. And he calls a double pass or
[5:19] Speaker 1: a wide receiver pass, and Cooper cup throws an interception
[5:24] Speaker 1: and I thought it just bled right into the second
[5:26] Speaker 1: half of that should have been a game that his
[5:29] Speaker 1: dad or the Shanahan family. That's a forty carry game.
[5:33] Speaker 1: And I looked up until the last possession they had
[5:36] Speaker 1: under thirty carries. It's like, it shouldn't have been a
[5:39] Speaker 1: one to one ratio of passes in rush attempts. It
[5:43] Speaker 1: should have been heavily as you got control and your
[5:45] Speaker 1: defense is dominating. It's like, you know, it's very in
[5:50] Speaker 1: vogue to go for it in the NFL all the time.
[5:53] Speaker 1: And listen, I admired Dan Campbell. That's his style. He
[5:57] Speaker 1: never waivers from it. He's pedaled to the medal one
[6:01] Speaker 1: percent down. They're going for it one percent of the time.
[6:04] Speaker 1: Even sometimes you're like Dan, I've probably just kicked the
[6:06] Speaker 1: field goal here, He's like, fuck it, go for it.
[6:08] Speaker 1: And it's like this is part of the deal. And
[6:10] Speaker 1: in fairness to him, he's been consistent with it for years.
[6:14] Speaker 1: Mike McDonald, they mentioned this on the broadcast, Ain't ain't
[6:17] Speaker 1: with that? Well, what is Mike? He's a defensive coach
[6:19] Speaker 1: and what is Mike Half a fantastic defense also who's
[6:23] Speaker 1: he playing? Kind of an inept offense? Why would you
[6:26] Speaker 1: be overly aggressive on fourth down? Punt, kick, field goals,
[6:30] Speaker 1: play defense. Try to score on me. Bet you can't.
[6:33] Speaker 1: But the easiest way they can get back is turning
[6:35] Speaker 1: the ball over. And I can imagine a night Mike
[6:37] Speaker 1: McDonald's like God, I almost called him Garry is a Clint.
[6:44] Speaker 1: The kubiak Son was just I thought he was bad
[6:48] Speaker 1: in the second I thought it kept getting worse, and
[6:51] Speaker 1: I get it early on. Uh, you know, Jackson Smith
[6:55] Speaker 1: and Sam Darnold have like a Montana Rice connection. Right now,
[6:58] Speaker 1: I saw a stat that Jackson Smith and Jigba has
[7:03] Speaker 1: five games of over one hundred yards, which is tied
[7:07] Speaker 1: for second most in franchise history. If he has one
[7:10] Speaker 1: more game, that'll tie the record with Steve Large at
[7:13] Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine. Now, I would say the history of
[7:15] Speaker 1: Seattle teams don't exactly have the Randy Mosses and Jerry
[7:19] Speaker 1: Rice's and Terrell Owens playing for him. But still like,
[7:22] Speaker 1: this guy is going to break a lot of records
[7:25] Speaker 1: for this franchise. He looks like a dominant force. But
[7:29] Speaker 1: it felt as the game was going like you don't
[7:31] Speaker 1: need to force feed this. It worked, you got your yardage,
[7:34] Speaker 1: you got your points. Now let's just sit on it
[7:36] Speaker 1: and let's bleed him dry and on the flip side, like, listen,
[7:40] Speaker 1: I'm not off Kubiak. I think he is a talented
[7:43] Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. But I think tonight's one of those where
[7:46] Speaker 1: if you want to and they were a team that
[7:48] Speaker 1: I sprinkle a little to win the division at five
[7:50] Speaker 1: to one, and they clearly have the defensive talent. Their
[7:53] Speaker 1: quarterback's pretty good, their skill guys, I mean that their
[7:56] Speaker 1: running backs are really good. Horton to go with Jackson Smith,
[7:59] Speaker 1: Like they got skills, and their coaching staff's excellent. They're
[8:01] Speaker 1: head coach. If Mike was an offensive coordinator Mike McDonald
[8:06] Speaker 1: instead of a defensive coordinator. I've been saying this for
[8:10] Speaker 1: a couple of years now. We would talk about him
[8:12] Speaker 1: like the media circle jerks Kevin O'Connell, like that's how
[8:15] Speaker 1: and that's not a shot at Kevin O'Connell. I mean
[8:17] Speaker 1: he's earned it, like he's a really good coach. But
[8:19] Speaker 1: offensive guys get put on a pedestal. I mean, look
[8:22] Speaker 1: at Sean, look at Kyle, look at Lafleur. I mean
[8:24] Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell. You know, it's just look at the two
[8:27] Speaker 1: old famous guys, Andy and Sean Payton. They're held to
[8:29] Speaker 1: a higher standard than defensive guys. They just are. And
[8:32] Speaker 1: because Mike's like this younger guy, but he's a dominant
[8:35] Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. There were stretches a night where he's calling
[8:38] Speaker 1: blitzes and bringing pressures. In fairness to CJ, I don't
[8:43] Speaker 1: know if like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning would have
[8:45] Speaker 1: understood where these pressures are coming from. He is elite
[8:48] Speaker 1: at his job. So to me, if Kubiak in those
[8:51] Speaker 1: type moments can get a little more conservative like Pops
[8:55] Speaker 1: and play to his head coach's strength, I mean that team,
[8:57] Speaker 1: the ceiling's pretty high. I mean the speed in which
[9:01] Speaker 1: they have on defense. Obviously we know how good their
[9:03] Speaker 1: home field advantages. Even though somehow the Niners won their
[9:06] Speaker 1: Week one and clearly the NFC West now, I mean
[9:10] Speaker 1: it's a three horse race. Now, I don't know if
[9:12] Speaker 1: the forty nine ers can continue this. They're missing so
[9:15] Speaker 1: many bodies. But all three teams are five and two.
[9:18] Speaker 1: The coaching is elite, the culture is elite. It's you
[9:21] Speaker 1: play those teams, you better buckle your chin strap. Now
[9:24] Speaker 1: the Texans same thing, Demiko from Kyle uh Kubiak guy badass.
[9:29] Speaker 1: Look at their defense. The Texans defense is top notch.
[9:33] Speaker 1: I mean, Will Anderson is a certified ass kicker. Their
[9:37] Speaker 1: defense is excellent. Their offense, though, is a tough watch.
[9:41] Speaker 1: And we've talked about this with some of these coordinators
[9:43] Speaker 1: that we don't know that well and we start seeing
[9:45] Speaker 1: them call players like something's off. Certain people are just
[9:47] Speaker 1: not good at their job, right because some people are
[9:51] Speaker 1: just lazy. They don't try, they don't care most times
[9:56] Speaker 1: in football, like in that world in coach, it's not
[10:00] Speaker 1: because guys aren't trying. It's not because guys don't study.
[10:04] Speaker 1: It's not because guys. Honestly, if you just gave him
[10:06] Speaker 1: a pen and got to the whiteboard. I bet the
[10:08] Speaker 1: Texans offensive coordinator Nick Hayley, who was with Sean mcvagh
[10:12] Speaker 1: for a couple of years, but really as a Patriot guy,
[10:15] Speaker 1: would be really impressive. I bet he really knows ball.
[10:18] Speaker 1: But when it comes to these games, you're watching it
[10:22] Speaker 1: and you're going, what are you doing now? In fairness,
[10:26] Speaker 1: his offense has some limitations. Their personnel on offense, the
[10:29] Speaker 1: offensive line is not great. I mean they're playing their
[10:33] Speaker 1: offensive their running backs, you know, major question mark because
[10:37] Speaker 1: of some injuries. Right, Nico Collins gets hurt in the game. Listen,
[10:41] Speaker 1: he's not playing with a full deck. But there were
[10:43] Speaker 1: stretches to night. There was a third and fourth down
[10:46] Speaker 1: stretch early in the second half where he called two
[10:50] Speaker 1: basically like outside off tackle runs that got absolutely destroyed.
[10:56] Speaker 1: It's one thing, listen, you want to call it one
[10:58] Speaker 1: time on third down, I'm not gonna fault you, But
[11:00] Speaker 1: then to basically just call the same exact play again
[11:03] Speaker 1: and get the same result. It was insanity. And he
[11:06] Speaker 1: did it again late in the game on the goal line.
[11:09] Speaker 1: Luckily one of their guys like false started, so they
[11:13] Speaker 1: got a free play. It was absolutely housed because at
[11:17] Speaker 1: the point of attack, their offensive line is getting worked
[11:22] Speaker 1: by a fantastic front, Seattle's front, led by Leonard Williams All.
[11:27] Speaker 1: I mean, all their dbs are physical. Their linebackers are
[11:30] Speaker 1: flying downhill and just triggering on the A and B
[11:33] Speaker 1: gap and just come in to crack skulls. It's like,
[11:36] Speaker 1: this is not gonna work now. And if you're not
[11:39] Speaker 1: comfortable calling a quarterback sneak, which Orlowsky wanted him to call.
[11:43] Speaker 1: Orlosky's like, dude, the Drew brees and leap over. It's like, well,
[11:47] Speaker 1: I cg comfortable doing that. I get it in theory
[11:50] Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense. But if he's not
[11:52] Speaker 1: comfortable doing it, you can't do it. But you cannot
[11:54] Speaker 1: call these runs between the tackles in these short yard
[11:57] Speaker 1: of situations. My mother, who's probably a sleep could tell
[12:01] Speaker 1: you this is not gonna work. And he just kept
[12:04] Speaker 1: calling him. It was baffling. Now you go, what are
[12:07] Speaker 1: you supposed to call? I don't know, but you cannot
[12:09] Speaker 1: call that. I understand you have limitations. You might as
[12:12] Speaker 1: well just hand the ball and say this is not
[12:14] Speaker 1: gonna work. So here, take the ball, and you guys
[12:16] Speaker 1: bring your offense on the field. And we've seen this
[12:19] Speaker 1: now around like they made a change in offensive coordinator
[12:22] Speaker 1: because Bobby slowk was a disaster, and it looks the
[12:24] Speaker 1: exact same. You could argue it looks even worse. And
[12:28] Speaker 1: it's concerning because you know, I think what you feel
[12:31] Speaker 1: pretty good about if you're John Schneider is you paid
[12:34] Speaker 1: a lot of money, right, you won the move, You
[12:37] Speaker 1: got rid of Gino, and you got Sam Donald. That
[12:39] Speaker 1: is a massive upgrade, right, But then once you give
[12:42] Speaker 1: Sam Donald the money, you're like, Okay, are you gonna
[12:44] Speaker 1: play at a high level? And you're watching You're like,
[12:46] Speaker 1: this is a Pro Bowl level guy. So you feel
[12:48] Speaker 1: really good about that. You got this guy under contract
[12:51] Speaker 1: who is going to be in the mix as long
[12:53] Speaker 1: as he stays healthy for the next couple of years
[12:55] Speaker 1: in our scheme to be a Pro Bowl player. You
[12:58] Speaker 1: watch CJ Stroud, who how could you not have really
[13:01] Speaker 1: loved him as a rookie? You go, we got this
[13:03] Speaker 1: shooting star, we got this rocket ship. And now for
[13:07] Speaker 1: last year and however many games this year, six or seven,
[13:10] Speaker 1: You're going, what are we supposed to do? Well, I
[13:12] Speaker 1: know what we're not doing based on what we're seeing,
[13:15] Speaker 1: and I'm not blaming it all on him, but I've
[13:18] Speaker 1: seen it happen in other organ We're not paying you
[13:20] Speaker 1: after this year, so I don't want to hear from
[13:22] Speaker 1: your agent expecting two hundred million dollars because that's an
[13:24] Speaker 1: immediate hang up. Now I'm not say we're giving up
[13:27] Speaker 1: on you, but this thing has just gone. And listen,
[13:30] Speaker 1: CJ is still pretty talented and he can He made
[13:33] Speaker 1: a great play late in the game, keeping a play alive,
[13:36] Speaker 1: and he definitely has the physical characteristics. But you watch
[13:39] Speaker 1: on certain plays, which again I do think you start
[13:42] Speaker 1: losing your confidence as a young quarterback, which how would
[13:46] Speaker 1: you not when you're constantly getting fucking hit. If you
[13:50] Speaker 1: get hit over and over, you can't even think straight.
[13:53] Speaker 1: And I think that he's just getting peppered so many
[13:55] Speaker 1: times last year and a half, it's hard to even
[13:57] Speaker 1: judge him. But now you're in this situation to be like, well,
[14:00] Speaker 1: is this actually our guy? He clearly is not going
[14:03] Speaker 1: anywhere next year, But it's just one of those questions
[14:06] Speaker 1: now that's out there of like, we're not making the playoffs.
[14:09] Speaker 1: We're two and four. We don't have the offense to
[14:11] Speaker 1: rattle off a bunch of wins, and our defense couldn't
[14:14] Speaker 1: be much better. I mean, it's a dominant defense. It's
[14:17] Speaker 1: a lead. It's like a championship. If you gave a
[14:20] Speaker 1: good offense to that defense, you'd be like, they're a
[14:22] Speaker 1: Super Bowl contenders. Why I listen, I'm wrong, I am.
[14:26] Speaker 1: Sometimes you go on heaters and sometimes you just go
[14:28] Speaker 1: on cold streaks, And that's what I'm on. From a
[14:30] Speaker 1: gambling perspective, I'm just giving money away, and I had
[14:34] Speaker 1: a couple of parlays and I set it to start
[14:36] Speaker 1: the season. I anchored it to the Texans win in
[14:40] Speaker 1: the South. That ain't gonna work because they're not winning
[14:44] Speaker 1: the South the culture winning that with ease. But a
[14:46] Speaker 1: huge reason that they're in this conundrum is their offense
[14:49] Speaker 1: is atrocious. The personnel with their offensive line is just
[14:52] Speaker 1: not good. And obviously when Nico goes out and they
[14:55] Speaker 1: lose Tank last year to a major injury, that their
[14:58] Speaker 1: skill position is just not exploded enough. I mean, you
[15:01] Speaker 1: watch the previous game, the one that kicked off earlier,
[15:04] Speaker 1: It's like there's way more explosive players in the Tampa
[15:06] Speaker 1: Detroit game. That's what the offensive skill guys are supposed
[15:09] Speaker 1: to look like. And you just wonder, like, there's gonna
[15:12] Speaker 1: be an off season you're gonna fire your offensive coordinator again.
[15:15] Speaker 1: You know, Mike McDaniel is a guy that Demiico worked
[15:18] Speaker 1: with in San Francisco for years. Would feel like that
[15:21] Speaker 1: would make a lot of sense. But Nick Cassario, who
[15:23] Speaker 1: is you know, kind of the boss. I mean, a
[15:26] Speaker 1: big reason they bring in this dude from you know
[15:28] Speaker 1: that used to work in New England that there's some
[15:31] Speaker 1: cohesion there that they know each other. So how much
[15:34] Speaker 1: use does Demico have. It's just everything's just a little
[15:37] Speaker 1: off kilter right now, and it's it all falls on
[15:39] Speaker 1: the offense. Like the defense ain't the problem. Derek Stingley,
[15:43] Speaker 1: Will Anderson are not the issues now. I'm not saying CJ.
[15:46] Speaker 1: Stroud is the issue, but he's part of the package
[15:49] Speaker 1: with the offensive coordinator, with the personnel people, with the scheme.
[15:53] Speaker 1: It's a nightmare. And that that game, how it was
[15:58] Speaker 1: as close as it was, I don't know, probably the
[16:01] Speaker 1: turnovers right what four to one and multiple turnovers in
[16:05] Speaker 1: the second half by Seattle. But like I think you
[16:09] Speaker 1: play that game ten times, especially in Seattle. I think
[16:12] Speaker 1: Seattle wins it nine times. I think it would take
[16:16] Speaker 1: a miracle. You know, it takes four or five turnovers
[16:19] Speaker 1: for Houston to win that game. I think that's an
[16:21] Speaker 1: awful mismatch because if you have a good defense, Seattle
[16:25] Speaker 1: or Houston's gonna be in a lot of trouble. And
[16:27] Speaker 1: in fairness to Houston, they got kind of screwed because
[16:33] Speaker 1: I don't get on you know, when the schedule comes out,
[16:35] Speaker 1: I don't make that big a deal with it, But
[16:38] Speaker 1: once you're in the season, you kind of feel a
[16:39] Speaker 1: flow to this to make a team that is. I've
[16:43] Speaker 1: never flown from Seattle to Houston, but I googled it tonight.
[16:46] Speaker 1: It's a four hour flight, so by the time that
[16:49] Speaker 1: they will get on the charter and probably take off,
[16:51] Speaker 1: it'll be close to my guests would be twelve thirty
[16:54] Speaker 1: to one am Pacific standard time. Well, it takes four
[16:58] Speaker 1: plus hours to get from Seattle to Houston, and there's
[17:01] Speaker 1: a two hour time change because I'm pretty sure Houston
[17:04] Speaker 1: Central time zone. So you're talking about them landing at
[17:07] Speaker 1: seven am on Tuesday morning. Well, they play the forty
[17:11] Speaker 1: nine ers on Sunday. So the forty nine ers, who
[17:14] Speaker 1: had a night game the previous night, were at home.
[17:17] Speaker 1: They've slept, they had a normal work day to day,
[17:20] Speaker 1: and the Texans coaches are gonna be absolutely fried by
[17:23] Speaker 1: the time they land. They're gonna have to go right
[17:25] Speaker 1: to work. So the scheduling gods did not throw the
[17:30] Speaker 1: Texans a bone making them play this double Listen Monday
[17:34] Speaker 1: night football. Sometimes you get home late, it's part of
[17:37] Speaker 1: the deal. Typically the game they would be in the
[17:41] Speaker 1: air right now right, But because of this doubleheader, you
[17:44] Speaker 1: don't even kick off till a little after seven pm
[17:49] Speaker 1: Pacific Standard time. I can't even speak, it's so late.
[17:53] Speaker 1: But they did get royally screwed on that so big
[17:56] Speaker 1: win by Seattle, and I think Seattle, I think they're
[18:00] Speaker 1: pretty good. I really do. It comes to the offensive
[18:02] Speaker 1: coordinator just being a little more conservative and just relying
[18:06] Speaker 1: on the run game that they're gonna be. They're gonna
[18:09] Speaker 1: be a tough out because defensively, in that scheme and
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[19:50] Speaker 1: Speaking of the first game, I've never been that bothered
[19:54] Speaker 1: by the transfer portal, and I think a lot of
[19:57] Speaker 1: the way that we discuss. It is based on college
[19:59] Speaker 1: for football, right players and coaches and people bitching and
[20:04] Speaker 1: people complaining or people celebrating it, or however, from a
[20:08] Speaker 1: college lens, I want to look at the transfer portal
[20:11] Speaker 1: from an NFL lens and from an NFL GM and
[20:15] Speaker 1: coaching perspective. I actually think it's the best thing that's
[20:19] Speaker 1: ever happened in the scouting community, and I think it's
[20:22] Speaker 1: really benefited a lot of players. And Jamier Gibbs, who
[20:26] Speaker 1: was by far the best player in the Tampa Lions game,
[20:32] Speaker 1: directly benefited from the transfer portal because he went to
[20:35] Speaker 1: Georgia Tech his first two years and he was good.
[20:38] Speaker 1: But then the transfer portal existed and he transferred to
[20:41] Speaker 1: Alabama and he had multiple huge games in the SEC,
[20:45] Speaker 1: and he ended up getting drafted twelfth overall by the
[20:49] Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. And let's remember when they drafted him, a
[20:52] Speaker 1: lot of people thought they were crazy. And if you
[20:54] Speaker 1: just look at his stats, it's not like he was
[20:57] Speaker 1: rushing for fifteen hundred yards a year at Georgia Tech,
[21:00] Speaker 1: and even as you're at Alabama, I don't even think
[21:02] Speaker 1: he ran for a thousand yards. Now he could catch
[21:06] Speaker 1: the ball so he was a virgatile player, but like
[21:08] Speaker 1: it was much more of a projection. But think how
[21:12] Speaker 1: much easier it was to project a player at Alabama
[21:17] Speaker 1: than it was at Georgia Tech. And this isn't Brent
[21:19] Speaker 1: Key Georgia Tech. This is like twenty nineteen twenty Georgia Tech.
[21:23] Speaker 1: So this is a team that I promise you this
[21:25] Speaker 1: if the transfer portal hadn't existed and he had just
[21:28] Speaker 1: had to ride out his time at Georgia Tech, Jamior
[21:31] Speaker 1: Gibbs not only is it the twelfth overall pick, He's
[21:34] Speaker 1: got a first round pick, No freaking way. And I
[21:38] Speaker 1: think sometimes the transfer portal for the guys that go
[21:42] Speaker 1: to bigger schools that leave a smaller school go to
[21:44] Speaker 1: the bigger school, they could shoot up like a rocket ship,
[21:47] Speaker 1: because when you transfer to some of these SEC schools
[21:50] Speaker 1: or these big ten schools, you're just playing in bigger games.
[21:54] Speaker 1: More people are watching it, there are more scouts and attendance.
[21:57] Speaker 1: They're being more highly dissected in draft meetings and lead
[22:02] Speaker 1: up to the combine, in lead up to the pro
[22:04] Speaker 1: day when the coaches get involved. And I think Jamiir
[22:08] Speaker 1: Gibbs is a great example of a guy that and
[22:12] Speaker 1: might have been one of the truly first big like
[22:17] Speaker 1: explosive risers from making a move in the portal. And
[22:22] Speaker 1: you watch him tonight. I mean, he is just a
[22:24] Speaker 1: spectacular talent. I've always said, like the last thing you
[22:29] Speaker 1: need as a running back, like you don't need Jamiir
[22:32] Speaker 1: Gibbs high end speed to be a great player at
[22:35] Speaker 1: running back. You don't need to be a four to
[22:37] Speaker 1: three guy. You don't need to be Adrian Peterson. Frank
[22:40] Speaker 1: Gore probably ran a four to six. You can be
[22:43] Speaker 1: an exceptional running back and not have David Montgomery. You
[22:47] Speaker 1: don't need great top end speed, but if you have it,
[22:51] Speaker 1: you can be a major problem. And we saw last
[22:53] Speaker 1: year with Sakwon Barkley had what six' seven runs of
[22:57] Speaker 1: over sixty yards and you saw to night give like
[23:01] Speaker 1: that thing you know opens like The Red sea and
[23:04] Speaker 1: he's just out the gate and when you're that, fast
[23:07] Speaker 1: no one is catching. You AND i would, imagine Beside Jamison,
[23:11] Speaker 1: williams there's not a guy on the offense faster than,
[23:13] Speaker 1: him and he's just that. Pick like watching them the
[23:18] Speaker 1: night AND i THINK i said this last, week there
[23:21] Speaker 1: is not a better group of skill players in THE
[23:23] Speaker 1: nfl than the one The Detroit lions. Have when you
[23:26] Speaker 1: factor in their two running, backs they're tight, end and
[23:30] Speaker 1: they're two, receivers and you could argue three. Receivers it
[23:34] Speaker 1: is just it's the best group in the. League and
[23:36] Speaker 1: their quarterback's pretty damn. Good now he has some. Limitations
[23:39] Speaker 1: he can't, move he's not gonna be scrambling around like
[23:42] Speaker 1: He's Sam darnold OR. Cj. Stroud but if you can protect,
[23:46] Speaker 1: them which they kind of, can you're gonna get slicing.
[23:51] Speaker 1: Diced and, honestly they weren't even that good on. Offense
[23:53] Speaker 1: the story of the game is the. Defense we'll get
[23:55] Speaker 1: into them in a, second but it hits me every
[23:57] Speaker 1: time that It's Monday night football and this team's now
[24:01] Speaker 1: five and. TWO i don't think we Give Dan campbell
[24:05] Speaker 1: enough credit for resurrecting a. Franchise you can't even resurrect
[24:11] Speaker 1: something because it never. WAS i, mean The Detroit lions
[24:14] Speaker 1: were the biggest joke franchise of the last thirty. Years
[24:17] Speaker 1: no team lost more in the two thousands and the
[24:19] Speaker 1: twenty tens in The Detroit. Lions and he hasn't just
[24:23] Speaker 1: turned them into a good. Team he's turned them into
[24:26] Speaker 1: a league. Power, like they have as good a chance
[24:29] Speaker 1: as any team in THE nfc to be in THE Nfc.
[24:31] Speaker 1: Championship they have as good a, chance you would say
[24:34] Speaker 1: watching them is any to be in The Super bowl
[24:37] Speaker 1: representing THE. Nfc, Obviously they're big variable is health and
[24:42] Speaker 1: this is back to back. Years it kind of hit me.
[24:45] Speaker 1: TONIGHT i think one similarity that you, KNOW i Think
[24:50] Speaker 1: Kyle shanahan and the forty nine ers really deal with.
[24:52] Speaker 1: THIS i think when you're a run heavy team and
[24:56] Speaker 1: you have a coach who preaches physicality and, practice you
[25:01] Speaker 1: know these guys the rules are not on your, side
[25:05] Speaker 1: so it's not like you build up the. Calluses AND
[25:07] Speaker 1: i do wonder if the physicality that you have in
[25:11] Speaker 1: practice and the games just kind of leads to guys
[25:14] Speaker 1: dropping like. Flies because The lions a lot like the
[25:17] Speaker 1: forty Nine. Ers it's just every, game guys just on the,
[25:20] Speaker 1: ground guys, injured random guys. Up it's pretty. Crazy but
[25:25] Speaker 1: a lot Like Sunday night with a mass, unit and
[25:28] Speaker 1: Even Troy aikman said the night you could Tell Troy
[25:32] Speaker 1: aikman was in just had nothing but like admiration for
[25:37] Speaker 1: What Kelvin shepherd and the effort that The lions random
[25:40] Speaker 1: defensive players were. Doing and we have seen this back
[25:43] Speaker 1: to back years, now and this is Where Dan campbell
[25:46] Speaker 1: deserves a lot of. Credit one Thing i've always said
[25:48] Speaker 1: About Jim harbaugh hires really good coaches because at the
[25:52] Speaker 1: end of the, day like he's Not Mike, shanahan you,
[25:56] Speaker 1: know he's Not Todd, bowles like he's not calling any.
[26:00] Speaker 1: Place he's a leader and his best, ability like to,
[26:06] Speaker 1: lead is to put guys in position to run the
[26:08] Speaker 1: offense of the. Defense and he's always been really good at,
[26:11] Speaker 1: that going back to Like San, Diego, stanford the forty nine,
[26:14] Speaker 1: Ers and one Thing Dan campbell has proven now Like
[26:18] Speaker 1: Johnny morriton has been pretty. Good you can't really dispute
[26:20] Speaker 1: IT'S i don't want to say he's the Next Ben
[26:23] Speaker 1: johnson because he's much, older but it hasn't been that
[26:26] Speaker 1: big of a drop, off and tonight like they were
[26:29] Speaker 1: a little. Off BUT i would say over the course
[26:31] Speaker 1: of the last three or four weeks they've been good on,
[26:33] Speaker 1: offense but defensively to Lose Aaron, glenn who clearly is
[26:37] Speaker 1: having some struggles In New, york don't blame him most
[26:40] Speaker 1: people do is to watch essentially the same guy Because
[26:45] Speaker 1: kelvin sheperd former. Player Remember Dan campbell said when he
[26:49] Speaker 1: was coaching In miami And kelvin was a, Player he's,
[26:52] Speaker 1: like this guy's gonna be a fantastic coach to identify those,
[26:56] Speaker 1: guys to then hire those, guys and then to start
[26:59] Speaker 1: them low and build them up and then put them
[27:01] Speaker 1: in a position where because defense is really about two, things,
[27:05] Speaker 1: right you got to under stand the schematics of, it,
[27:09] Speaker 1: Right Vic, Fangio Bill, belichick, like really understand the, detail
[27:14] Speaker 1: especially in this day and age playing the offenses that
[27:17] Speaker 1: all the officiating and the rules are on their. Side
[27:20] Speaker 1: the league wants to see, point so you're at a huge.
[27:23] Speaker 1: Disadvantage so from a detail, standpoint like you gotta be
[27:27] Speaker 1: every bit is dialed in on the x's nose as
[27:29] Speaker 1: the offensive. Guys but then you kind of got to
[27:32] Speaker 1: be a crazy motherfucker and be a little off your.
[27:36] Speaker 1: Rocker and there's a motivational element to defense that there
[27:41] Speaker 1: just really isn't with. Offense offense is much more, cerebral
[27:44] Speaker 1: maybe with the offensive, line but the offensive unit as a,
[27:47] Speaker 1: whole it's not nearly the. Same and that's an element
[27:52] Speaker 1: of motivation of personality that it's they're kind of the, same,
[27:59] Speaker 1: Right most high level defensive coordinators and defensive guys are
[28:04] Speaker 1: pretty intense. Dudes and to go From Aaron glen to
[28:08] Speaker 1: this has been really. Impressive And Dan campbell deserves a
[28:11] Speaker 1: lot of credit because him And Brad holmes took JUST
[28:16] Speaker 1: i mean a trash, franchise an irrelevant. Franchise Even Troy
[28:20] Speaker 1: aikman mentioned a, Night he's, like it's. Crazy now we
[28:23] Speaker 1: have done these last couple of, years Multiple monday night.
[28:26] Speaker 1: Games for, YEARS i never touched this team beside On,
[28:30] Speaker 1: thanksgiving and now they are just a stalwart of like
[28:33] Speaker 1: you need a big, game throw The lions in, there
[28:35] Speaker 1: especially at, home and they do not. Disappoint it feels.
[28:38] Speaker 1: Big their team pops the talent on the. ROSTER i,
[28:42] Speaker 1: mean this goes back to THE gm done a fantastic.
[28:45] Speaker 1: JOB i, mean we know about their. Offense, Defensively Aiden
[28:49] Speaker 1: hutchinson is just an awesome. Player Jack campbell had a
[28:54] Speaker 1: nice play tonight on. Coverage they've just done a really
[28:57] Speaker 1: good job and they're obviously missing a ton of guys
[29:00] Speaker 1: suspended because of he Attacked juju last. Week but he'll be.
[29:05] Speaker 1: Back he's a, baller And i'm Just i'm just really
[29:08] Speaker 1: really impressed with The lions and everything they got. Going
[29:12] Speaker 1: and there's not much for me to say About, tampa
[29:14] Speaker 1: like they were bound to have a bad. Game pretty.
[29:18] Speaker 1: Devastating Mike, evans WHO i had to google his. Contract
[29:21] Speaker 1: he signed a two year deal two years, ago so
[29:23] Speaker 1: he's gonna be a free agent at the end of this.
[29:25] Speaker 1: Year to come back from the hamstring injury and to
[29:29] Speaker 1: break your collar bone and get a concussion on the same,
[29:32] Speaker 1: play the way he was laying down for a long,
[29:36] Speaker 1: time you, knew like this is not. Good and obviously
[29:39] Speaker 1: the information coming out that it's six to eight weeks
[29:42] Speaker 1: and just a bad, deal and a lot of people
[29:45] Speaker 1: asking me you think he's played his last game as
[29:47] Speaker 1: a as A. BUCK i don't. KNOW i, mean the
[29:52] Speaker 1: collarbone's not a career ending, injury but you start having
[29:56] Speaker 1: some of these hamstring, injuries, concussion. Collarbone you've made enough,
[30:00] Speaker 1: Money you've won A Super. BOWL i could see him
[30:04] Speaker 1: coming back To tampa on like a one year cheaper.
[30:07] Speaker 1: DEAL i have a hard time seeing him finish somewhere.
[30:10] Speaker 1: Else but that was tough And tampa's another, team a
[30:13] Speaker 1: lot like The, lions a lot like the forty nine,
[30:15] Speaker 1: Ers like you can just only have so many. Injuries
[30:19] Speaker 1: eventually it's, like what's going on here and you just
[30:22] Speaker 1: run out of Juice and typically that happens on the,
[30:25] Speaker 1: road and that's what happened. Tonight they just looked. Off
[30:30] Speaker 1: they just were not. Good AND i would say that
[30:35] Speaker 1: not that big a, deal and it's time to rally the.
[30:37] Speaker 1: Troops and luckily you're in a division WITH i saw
[30:41] Speaker 1: a clip today Of Raheem morris on a big third
[30:43] Speaker 1: down last. Night they had ten guys on the. Field it's,
[30:46] Speaker 1: like that's that's that's the team that you have to
[30:48] Speaker 1: worry about in your. Division that, team you, Know Carolina,
[30:52] Speaker 1: panthers feisty. Squad BUT i don't Think tampa's losing sleep over.
[30:56] Speaker 1: Them and obviously The saints are, Terrible so, Listen damp
[31:00] Speaker 1: a bad, game but when the dust, settles gonna be.
[31:04] Speaker 1: OKAY a couple other. Things Drake greenlaw got, suspended he
[31:10] Speaker 1: missed basically got. Injured they got injured in the. Offseason
[31:14] Speaker 1: then he got INJURED i think again in training camp
[31:16] Speaker 1: with the quad and he has been out the entire
[31:18] Speaker 1: season up until last, week where he looked pretty rusty
[31:22] Speaker 1: and at the end of the game when they kicked
[31:23] Speaker 1: the game winning field, goal he like b lined into
[31:25] Speaker 1: the referee started screaming at. Him AND i didn't see.
[31:30] Speaker 1: THIS i guess In Bronco, land maybe that moment had
[31:33] Speaker 1: gone viral by a guy that covers the team had
[31:38] Speaker 1: like filmed. It and then today it was announced that
[31:40] Speaker 1: he's been suspended for a game for verbally attacking a.
[31:44] Speaker 1: Referee to, me unless you said LIKE i want to
[31:49] Speaker 1: murder you and your entire, Family i've said this for
[31:53] Speaker 1: a long. TIME i have a really hard time in
[31:55] Speaker 1: professional sports If i'm swearing at, you even if it's
[31:59] Speaker 1: not like you could argue it's not. Appropriate, yeah there
[32:04] Speaker 1: are a lot of inappropriate things that happen in pro,
[32:06] Speaker 1: sports AND i think there better be a very distinct
[32:10] Speaker 1: line that has to get crossed for you to suspend
[32:13] Speaker 1: and doc a game check away from me as a.
[32:16] Speaker 1: Player AND i know that he. Is you know they're
[32:20] Speaker 1: contesting it with THE, nflpa BUT i gotta know what
[32:24] Speaker 1: is specifically said to feel comfortable, Going, yeah you deserve
[32:28] Speaker 1: to be. SUSPENDED i got no. Problem, listen we got
[32:31] Speaker 1: to have some rules and regulations and some. Discipline you
[32:33] Speaker 1: can't just be attacking. Referees totally understand. It it's like
[32:36] Speaker 1: anytime you hear AN nba coach, Like i'm gonna get fined,
[32:39] Speaker 1: here But i'm gonna go in on the. Referees this
[32:40] Speaker 1: is part of the. Game twenty thousand, dollars, fine, Whatever
[32:43] Speaker 1: even THOUGH i think we just throw fine numbers, AROUND
[32:47] Speaker 1: i just dock them fifty, grand, Oh Jonathan gannon one hundred,
[32:50] Speaker 1: Grand like there's a lot of. Money this is net,
[32:52] Speaker 1: income not gross. Income so whatever you're taxed on then
[32:56] Speaker 1: they take it away from. THAT i think a lot
[32:58] Speaker 1: of these fine systems players coaches is batshit. Crazy but
[33:03] Speaker 1: UNLESS i hear something and, listen it takes a lot
[33:05] Speaker 1: to offend. Me it better be pretty egregious to suspend
[33:09] Speaker 1: the guy and dock him a game check for a.
[33:12] Speaker 1: Game IF i Was Dre, Greenlaw i'd be posting WHAT i,
[33:15] Speaker 1: said trying to get the you, know public on my.
[33:19] Speaker 1: SIDE a couple other quick. Things Brandon graham is going
[33:25] Speaker 1: to return at least all signs. Point i'm recording this
[33:28] Speaker 1: at eleven o'clock at night On monday. Night The eagles
[33:31] Speaker 1: are desperate for a little outside pass rush playing The
[33:34] Speaker 1: Giants Jackson. Dart all signs point To Brandon graham coming.
[33:38] Speaker 1: BACK i can't Imagine brandon and home with his. Family
[33:40] Speaker 1: think he's got a couple of young, kids probably a little,
[33:42] Speaker 1: board and he, Goes, Wait jeffrey And howie just called.
[33:46] Speaker 1: Me they said they'll pay you five hundred grand a
[33:49] Speaker 1: game you know or, whatever you, know pro rated ten million. Dollars,
[33:53] Speaker 1: Well i'm just not doing that much. Else, now WHAT
[33:55] Speaker 1: i would wonder is what has he been doing. PHYSICALLY
[34:01] Speaker 1: i would, guess like most you, know young healthy, adults
[34:04] Speaker 1: he's working. Out but there's a big difference like going
[34:06] Speaker 1: to the, gym getting a little, pump getting an, ollimptical
[34:09] Speaker 1: getting a little walk on a ten, incline and like
[34:11] Speaker 1: training to get after offensive. Tackles so if he has
[34:16] Speaker 1: specifically been training over the LAST i don't, know six
[34:20] Speaker 1: months to just maintain his uh not even just his physical,
[34:26] Speaker 1: stature but just MY nfl, Pedigree i'd be impressed AND
[34:30] Speaker 1: i have a lot of respect for him if his
[34:33] Speaker 1: training has maintained the same level of intensity as it
[34:38] Speaker 1: would have over the course of his, career Because i'd
[34:40] Speaker 1: be hard. Pressed you just retire and you just maintain that.
[34:45] Speaker 1: Training maybe just a physical, freak but he is an older,
[34:48] Speaker 1: player shows you they're a little desperate and last but not,
[34:51] Speaker 1: least it's tough time to be A giants. Fan it's
[34:55] Speaker 1: better than being A jets, fan but it's. TOUGH i
[34:57] Speaker 1: mean that, game, obviously it's In one of the main
[35:01] Speaker 1: talking points of all the football world is The giants
[35:05] Speaker 1: blowing that game to The. BRONCOS i will say. THIS
[35:08] Speaker 1: i want to BECAUSE i defended Day, ball not BECAUSE
[35:10] Speaker 1: i think he's like doing some bang up. Job it's just,
[35:13] Speaker 1: listen you gotta let the coach that hand picked the
[35:16] Speaker 1: quarterback give him a little. Runway IF i would have
[35:19] Speaker 1: told you six months ago that we would be close
[35:22] Speaker 1: To halloween and there's not a soul in THE, nfl
[35:26] Speaker 1: including The, titans that would take Cam ward Over Jackson,
[35:30] Speaker 1: dart you would have had a big smile on your
[35:33] Speaker 1: face been, like are you? Serious how good is this?
[35:36] Speaker 1: Looking AND i do think we could sit here today
[35:38] Speaker 1: BECAUSE i saw stat that Since Jackson dart was inserted
[35:42] Speaker 1: in the starting lineup that The giants are averaging over
[35:44] Speaker 1: twenty five points a game and that would rank them
[35:47] Speaker 1: six in THE. Nfl so, like, offensively, clearly they are
[35:52] Speaker 1: as fun of an offense as they've had in a
[35:55] Speaker 1: long long. Time even the year that they made the,
[35:57] Speaker 1: playoffs when they went nine to eight With Daniel, jones
[36:00] Speaker 1: didn't he throw like fifteen touchdowns that? Year it's not
[36:03] Speaker 1: like he threw thirty. Eight it's not like he Had
[36:04] Speaker 1: Sam darnold's season last year with The Minnesota. Vikings so,
[36:07] Speaker 1: like if you're gonna need and sometimes when times are,
[36:11] Speaker 1: dark we've all been down in the dumps for different
[36:13] Speaker 1: shit in our, life whether it's just, personally, professionally, whatever
[36:17] Speaker 1: you just need to find a bright. Spot AND i
[36:20] Speaker 1: do think the bright spot right now is did we
[36:23] Speaker 1: get the best quarterback in the? Draft did? We because
[36:25] Speaker 1: if there was a redraft right? Now and, Listen i'm
[36:29] Speaker 1: not acting LIKE i Hated Cam moore AND i liked.
[36:32] Speaker 1: HIM i thought he'd be a good. PLAYER i bet
[36:34] Speaker 1: on them the first three. Weeks watching the last couple
[36:36] Speaker 1: of weeks a little hard to, judge but he there's
[36:39] Speaker 1: no disputing he looks. Terrible he looks completely. Overwhelmed it's
[36:44] Speaker 1: a tough. Watch now it could be A jared goff
[36:46] Speaker 1: situation back With Jeff, fisher your two McVeigh comes in
[36:50] Speaker 1: and becomes a great. Player So i'm not right in
[36:53] Speaker 1: the guy's obituary and saying he's a. Bust but it's
[36:57] Speaker 1: not going. Well people are getting. Fired, hey that building
[37:02] Speaker 1: is in, shambles and while the giants aff a, LOSS
[37:06] Speaker 1: i do think you need to look somewhat optimistically to.
[37:09] Speaker 1: GO i think we hit on the. Quarterback CAN i
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[38:42] Speaker 1: here on the show. Easiest it's really the only way
[38:44] Speaker 1: you can send me an. Email you can tweet at,
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[38:55] Speaker 1: we really going to be glazing The chiefs all week
[38:58] Speaker 1: because they blew out The raiders at? Home not saying
[39:01] Speaker 1: The chiefs don't look good and especially better than they
[39:03] Speaker 1: did the beginning of the, year but come, on The
[39:06] Speaker 1: raiders are a garbage. Fire. Listen two things can be.
[39:09] Speaker 1: True One raiders got some. Problems i'm sure we will
[39:13] Speaker 1: address them more as the season takes, shape because it's
[39:18] Speaker 1: getting uglier by the. Week didn't even have one hundred
[39:20] Speaker 1: yards of. Offense BUT i do think The chiefs being
[39:25] Speaker 1: LIKE i don't, know getting their swag back is a
[39:28] Speaker 1: pretty big story when they've been to Five Super bowls
[39:30] Speaker 1: in six years and the year they missed, it they
[39:32] Speaker 1: lost in THE Afc Championship game where they had a
[39:34] Speaker 1: lead at. Halftime so it's like they are a major
[39:37] Speaker 1: factor in this league for a reason that they win
[39:40] Speaker 1: the division every, year WHICH i think was in question
[39:42] Speaker 1: for the first. Time your, boy just on, value not
[39:46] Speaker 1: BECAUSE i root for The. CHIEFS i got a bunch
[39:48] Speaker 1: of friends on the, team BUT i was texted with
[39:50] Speaker 1: a couple of, them like they played really well on,
[39:53] Speaker 1: offense and that's an area in which last year was a.
[39:56] Speaker 1: Struggle you, Know Hollywood, Brown thornton obviously the running. Game
[40:02] Speaker 1: adding this Rookie, smith like they got a lot going for,
[40:04] Speaker 1: him and their rookie offensive tackle hasn't played in a
[40:07] Speaker 1: couple weeks and he's one of the better rookies in the.
[40:09] Speaker 1: League BECAUSE i don't even know the actual Situation i've
[40:13] Speaker 1: read the reports that are public to, Everybody so who
[40:16] Speaker 1: knows how that situation is going to figure itself. Out
[40:19] Speaker 1: but IF i was A chiefs, Fan i'd be pretty fired.
[40:22] Speaker 1: Up i'd like my, Chances i'll tell you that. Much
[40:26] Speaker 1: do you think The, niners this From troy should Put purty?
[40:29] Speaker 1: Down now that we know the toe is going to require,
[40:31] Speaker 1: surgery shouldn't they just do it as opposed to waiting
[40:34] Speaker 1: until the offseason what might prevent, him which might prevent
[40:38] Speaker 1: him for the start of. CAMP i hear what you're,
[40:41] Speaker 1: Saying but these, teams and specifically these players live like
[40:46] Speaker 1: year to. YEAR i just have little to no hope
[40:50] Speaker 1: that whenever he, does if he comes back this week
[40:52] Speaker 1: or next, week he's just going to reinjure the. Tow
[40:55] Speaker 1: so you just play for a game to reinjure. IT
[41:00] Speaker 1: i think he HAS i don't even know the right,
[41:03] Speaker 1: way the right adjective to describe, it but emotionally he's probably,
[41:08] Speaker 1: PRETTY i don't, know torn up about. It he gets
[41:12] Speaker 1: all this money and then he just can't, play and
[41:15] Speaker 1: then he tries to play and it's one of those
[41:17] Speaker 1: injuries like turf toe and a bunch of players have
[41:20] Speaker 1: come out and like defended it because it doesn't sound
[41:24] Speaker 1: sounds like stubbing your, toe which we all know hurts a.
[41:26] Speaker 1: Lot but at least when you break an, arm or
[41:29] Speaker 1: you dislocate an elbow or you get a high ankle,
[41:31] Speaker 1: sprain it's pretty. Definitive it's like turf. Toe, yeah just
[41:36] Speaker 1: hurts like a mother like the PAIN i reinjure it
[41:40] Speaker 1: WHEN i attempt, to you, know to. Play it's impossible
[41:44] Speaker 1: to overcome WITHOUT i guess the, surgery WHICH i didn't
[41:47] Speaker 1: EVEN i haven't read that, anywhere BUT i would guess
[41:51] Speaker 1: that he would knee surgery at the end of the.
[41:53] Speaker 1: Season it just. SUCKS i, mean it really. Does he
[41:56] Speaker 1: was poised to have a big, season, obviously got paid
[41:58] Speaker 1: a ton of money that was based on his previous,
[42:02] Speaker 1: work and now Mac jones is kind of carrying the
[42:04] Speaker 1: team from a quarterback standpoint because party can't. PLAY i
[42:08] Speaker 1: just have a little to no faith that like it's
[42:11] Speaker 1: gonna go. Away so, yeah you can get, surgery but
[42:14] Speaker 1: he is not going to agree to, that no. Chance
[42:16] Speaker 1: and the team clearly like they have nine months in the,
[42:20] Speaker 1: offseason so they'll just be, like, yeah let's write it.
[42:22] Speaker 1: Out see if we can battle through it and figure this,
[42:25] Speaker 1: out that's WHAT i think their mindset is gonna, be
[42:27] Speaker 1: which clearly is their mindset right. Now we're in toward
[42:30] Speaker 1: the end Of. October as A New York giants, fan
[42:34] Speaker 1: this team has an issue of being up and down
[42:36] Speaker 1: every single week like a yacht in a. Hurricane what
[42:39] Speaker 1: do you think The giants should, do not just this,
[42:40] Speaker 1: season but in the future of building Around dart and
[42:42] Speaker 1: hopefully neighbors when he's rehabbing. Back why said this on
[42:48] Speaker 1: The Reaction pod On Sunday, Night and this is, tough.
[42:52] Speaker 1: Right it. Sucks this team loses a. LOT i, mean
[42:54] Speaker 1: that's a pretty legendary. LOSS i THINK i heard the record.
[42:58] Speaker 1: Somewhere it was a lot of games for a team
[43:02] Speaker 1: that had an eighteen point lead WITH i think under
[43:04] Speaker 1: seven minutes to, go they don't. LOSE i mean it's like,
[43:08] Speaker 1: statistically it's, listen like the De morcado, play you needed
[43:12] Speaker 1: a touchdown or you needed a turnover to allow the
[43:15] Speaker 1: team to come back because it was impossible if the
[43:17] Speaker 1: game just went you get some, plays we get some.
[43:20] Speaker 1: Plays you couldn't overcome eighteen to, nothing twenty six to.
[43:24] Speaker 1: Eight you just didn't have enough time on the clock
[43:26] Speaker 1: And dark gave him a. Turnover but, ultimately like the
[43:30] Speaker 1: best part about The Dart scataboo experience is they're not
[43:35] Speaker 1: just fun like they're really you, Know scataboo is a
[43:37] Speaker 1: good player And dart from a hope, standpoint like the
[43:41] Speaker 1: physical attributes the arm, strength the playmaking can be a little,
[43:45] Speaker 1: reckless but most young players are taking some hits that
[43:47] Speaker 1: you would like to. AVOID i do think they were
[43:50] Speaker 1: in a tough spot with the coach because my take
[43:53] Speaker 1: was Like i'd give Day ball another. Year you're gonna
[43:55] Speaker 1: fire him and just start over with this. Crew because
[43:59] Speaker 1: whoever is an assistant coach or a guy a retread
[44:05] Speaker 1: to try to get The giants. Job of course they're
[44:08] Speaker 1: gonna SAY i Love dark and honestly they might be
[44:10] Speaker 1: intrigued by, him but if it doesn't go well for,
[44:12] Speaker 1: them they'll pivot on. Them and the same thing happened
[44:15] Speaker 1: With Daniel jones And brian A. Ball sometimes you just
[44:19] Speaker 1: gotta let it play out a little, bit AND i
[44:20] Speaker 1: think it's easy to counter that and, go, Well, john
[44:23] Speaker 1: they lose all the. Time you, know a couple of
[44:27] Speaker 1: years ago they had a high pick when they got.
[44:28] Speaker 1: Neighbors last year they had a high pick when they
[44:29] Speaker 1: Got Abdul. Carter just never, ends and it's. Frustrating it.
[44:33] Speaker 1: Sucks you, know watching a football team not be good
[44:36] Speaker 1: is not fun because there's a build up each week and,
[44:39] Speaker 1: then like The giants are, doing they kind of tease
[44:42] Speaker 1: you that they give a little just the, tip and
[44:44] Speaker 1: all of a sudden you lose one of the craziest
[44:46] Speaker 1: games of all. TIME i, mean that's honestly one of
[44:49] Speaker 1: the craziest Endings i've ever. SEEN i think we can
[44:52] Speaker 1: all agree for all of our years watching, football depending
[44:54] Speaker 1: on how old you, are that is as crazy of
[44:56] Speaker 1: a fourth quarter as you will ever. SEE i don't
[44:59] Speaker 1: have the, answer. Though my initial reaction IS i would
[45:03] Speaker 1: give Day ball next year and just give him basically
[45:06] Speaker 1: two years With dart HIGH iq guy, Here my question
[45:12] Speaker 1: for you is what happens for a team during the bye.
[45:15] Speaker 1: WEEK i know high end veteran players take time off
[45:18] Speaker 1: travel Ie travis when he went to The Taylor Swift,
[45:21] Speaker 1: Tour but what about non? Starters some practice players do
[45:24] Speaker 1: facilities stay open to work out and? Such what about?
[45:27] Speaker 1: Coaches do they continue to grind and watch film as
[45:29] Speaker 1: a former, scout did you get time off as? WELL
[45:33] Speaker 1: i think the NEW cba in twenty eleven mandated that
[45:38] Speaker 1: on a bye week THAT i don't know if It's
[45:41] Speaker 1: wednesday Through sunday Or thursday Through, sunday but like it's
[45:44] Speaker 1: mandatory the players are they have to get be given time. Off,
[45:49] Speaker 1: now you can choose if you're a, player to come
[45:52] Speaker 1: in and get a workout. In but once It's October,
[45:55] Speaker 1: november a couple days to get. AWAY i, mean you've
[45:58] Speaker 1: been training really year, round, Right SO i think most
[46:02] Speaker 1: players tend to get. AWAY i think you see if
[46:04] Speaker 1: you watch football On, saturdays you'll see a lot of
[46:06] Speaker 1: guys like At alabama or At Ohio state typically that's
[46:09] Speaker 1: their bye, week and younger, players you, know go back
[46:12] Speaker 1: to like homecoming or a big college. Game some guys
[46:16] Speaker 1: just you, know older player probably hangs out with their.
[46:18] Speaker 1: FAMILY i would say most. Coaches you, know it depends
[46:21] Speaker 1: where you are in the totem. Pole, right if you
[46:23] Speaker 1: are a quality control, guy which would be the lowest
[46:26] Speaker 1: guy in the totem, pole you're probably coming in a
[46:28] Speaker 1: Little Thursday friday to break, down break down some film
[46:31] Speaker 1: of your upcoming, opponent and Maybe, sunday the day of
[46:35] Speaker 1: the game in which the team that you're gonna play
[46:37] Speaker 1: the next week is. Playing but the head, coach the,
[46:40] Speaker 1: coordinators THE GM i think they. Are they're spending a
[46:45] Speaker 1: couple of days with their, family going to you, know
[46:48] Speaker 1: their kids high school football, game hanging with their. WIFE
[46:51] Speaker 1: i don't really such a long time ago, NOW i
[46:54] Speaker 1: probably just went home and, Slept but it's pretty relaxing
[46:57] Speaker 1: for a couple of. Days and by that time when
[47:00] Speaker 1: you get to the bye, week, right let's just say
[47:02] Speaker 1: your bye week is this. Week you have been grinding
[47:05] Speaker 1: like seven days a, week especially as a coach or
[47:09] Speaker 1: you know someone in the front office legitimately seven days
[47:12] Speaker 1: a week Since july. Twentieth so like you don't get.
[47:17] Speaker 1: Listen there are a lot of positives and awesome perks
[47:21] Speaker 1: of coming with the public, job i. E the. Money you,
[47:24] Speaker 1: know these coaches make a, ton gms make a. Ton
[47:27] Speaker 1: but you don't have a normal. Schedule you're not Working
[47:30] Speaker 1: monday Through friday and doing Nothing Saturday. SUNDAY i mean
[47:32] Speaker 1: you're Working monday Through sunday and traveling a. Lot like
[47:35] Speaker 1: it's it's a pretty big. Grind you don't sleep, much
[47:38] Speaker 1: SO i think the bye week is everyone's taking a deep. Breath,
[47:41] Speaker 1: ideally your team's doing pretty well and you can enjoy.
[47:43] Speaker 1: It if your team, sucks you're probably thinking about your
[47:46] Speaker 1: future and you might get. Fired so it's, yeah kind
[47:50] Speaker 1: of crazy, profession but it's usually a very relaxed. Time
[47:55] Speaker 1: the re emergence Of Daniel jones And Saquon barkley doing
[47:58] Speaker 1: really well In? Philadelphia does this help The giants and
[48:02] Speaker 1: hurt the? Coach does this help The GIANTS gm and
[48:05] Speaker 1: hurt the? COACH i don't think The GIANTS Gm Joe
[48:10] Speaker 1: shane drafted either, guy, right didn't they inherit both players.
[48:14] Speaker 1: Didn't Dave gettleman Draft Daniel jones And Saquon. BARKLEY i
[48:20] Speaker 1: know he Drafted Saquon barkley BECAUSE i remember when he,
[48:22] Speaker 1: did he said he was drafting A hall Of famer
[48:25] Speaker 1: and HE'S i don't know If saquon's gonna make The
[48:26] Speaker 1: hall Of, fame but he wasn't. Wrong, Like saquon's A
[48:28] Speaker 1: hall Of fame, talent And Daniel jones one of the
[48:31] Speaker 1: most maligned polarizing draft. PICKS i would, say of like
[48:36] Speaker 1: my adult, LIFE i, mean Taking Daniel jones and six
[48:39] Speaker 1: was pretty, bold but looks pretty good right, Now like
[48:42] Speaker 1: gonna leave the cults of the, playoffs that's for damn.
[48:44] Speaker 1: SURE i think it's easier to stomach With saquon And
[48:49] Speaker 1: scataboo or excuse, Me dart In, scataboo like those. Guys
[48:53] Speaker 1: part of, like it's easier to forget the girl that dumped,
[48:57] Speaker 1: you or the girl you dumped if she starts doing
[49:00] Speaker 1: well when you start dating someone. Else if you're alone
[49:03] Speaker 1: and lonely and scrolling On instagram and she's with her
[49:07] Speaker 1: dude In hawaii Or New york or, wherever having the
[49:11] Speaker 1: time of her life posting, pictures it seasy to be
[49:13] Speaker 1: down in the. Dumps but, like If i'm A giants,
[49:16] Speaker 1: FAN i. Go we Got skataboo And, dart so it
[49:18] Speaker 1: was fun. HAVING i, mean Obviously saquan's a better player Than,
[49:22] Speaker 1: scataboo but, like why Couldn't dart be better Than Daniel?
[49:25] Speaker 1: Jones SO i think it's easier to move on when
[49:29] Speaker 1: you've replaced those guys with kind of fan favorite. Players
[49:33] Speaker 1: SO i would say last, YEAR i MEAN i remember
[49:37] Speaker 1: saying It, Saquon, now DID i know he's gonna go
[49:40] Speaker 1: for two thousand yards and they were gonna win The Super. Bowl,
[49:41] Speaker 1: no but there was no way if he was, healthy
[49:44] Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna have a good season behind an unreal offensive.
[49:48] Speaker 1: LINE Aj, Brown DeVante, Smith Dallas goddard And Jalen hurts
[49:51] Speaker 1: like it was gonna. Work, now obviously it worked to
[49:54] Speaker 1: the best degree, possible BUT i don't, think, uh like
[50:00] Speaker 1: if those guys got stayed employed after, That like The
[50:03] Speaker 1: Daniel jones. Thing Daniel jones been on a couple different,
[50:06] Speaker 1: teams right they cut him last year he went To
[50:08] Speaker 1: minnesota like a lot of other teams could have had.
[50:11] Speaker 1: Him you could argue the biggest question mark is why
[50:14] Speaker 1: do some teams that needed a, quarterback why weren't they
[50:16] Speaker 1: more interested In we've had back to back years now
[50:20] Speaker 1: Where Sam donald ten million, dollars maybe it's four years
[50:24] Speaker 1: or three years in a. ROW i. Forgot i'd have
[50:26] Speaker 1: to google When baker got his like three year on
[50:28] Speaker 1: hundred million dollar. Contract But baker was on a five
[50:31] Speaker 1: million dollar deal or four million dollar, deal became a
[50:34] Speaker 1: long term. Starter Sam donald was on a one, year
[50:36] Speaker 1: ten million dollar. Deal was had one of the best
[50:39] Speaker 1: seasons in the league last, year and Now Daniel jones
[50:42] Speaker 1: is on a one, year fourteen million dollar. Contract the
[50:45] Speaker 1: difference Of Daniel jones And sam is like The Colt.
[50:48] Speaker 1: Saint Letting Daniel jones go, anywhere it'll be A Baker mayfield.
[50:51] Speaker 1: Situation he's, staying and rightfully. So this was a LONG
[50:56] Speaker 1: dm From christian basically arguing with his buddy About Joe,
[51:00] Speaker 1: burrow and he, said my buddy is convinced that almost
[51:04] Speaker 1: all of the blames should go To Joe. Burrow he
[51:06] Speaker 1: justifies his stance by throwing a bunch of advanced stats at.
[51:09] Speaker 1: Me for, example he tells me That burrow is sacked
[51:11] Speaker 1: around twenty four percent of the time that he faces,
[51:14] Speaker 1: pressure While mahomes And Josh allen their rates are ten
[51:18] Speaker 1: percent and fourteen percent, percent. Respectively he uses stats like
[51:22] Speaker 1: these to try and convince me the issue is Actually
[51:26] Speaker 1: joe and he holds onto the ball too much to.
[51:29] Speaker 1: Me these stats do not in take take into context
[51:32] Speaker 1: That joe is usually either playing from behind or in
[51:34] Speaker 1: a shootout and does not have the ability to constantly
[51:37] Speaker 1: check the ball down for short yardage gains due to
[51:40] Speaker 1: his inability to trust the defense literally at, all While
[51:43] Speaker 1: mahomes And allen have not necessarily had those same. Limitations
[51:48] Speaker 1: my question is, this as a former scout in the
[51:51] Speaker 1: era of quote Next gen or quote advanced, statistics do
[51:57] Speaker 1: you think they can be used on their own in
[52:00] Speaker 1: a situation like this to evaluate a player and paint
[52:03] Speaker 1: an accurate picture of what is happening on the. Field it's.
[52:07] Speaker 1: FUNNY i was texting with like an ASSISTANT gm a
[52:10] Speaker 1: couple weeks, ago and he was just, saying how it
[52:14] Speaker 1: makes him sick reading some of these. Articles, then let's face,
[52:17] Speaker 1: it a lot of The New age. Media if you
[52:20] Speaker 1: read one of their, articles it is essentially all advanced,
[52:24] Speaker 1: stats and that's how they talk and articulate their thoughts on.
[52:28] Speaker 1: Football AND i was, saying you know what's funny Is
[52:31] Speaker 1: i'm forty years old And i've been talking football with other,
[52:35] Speaker 1: people my friends and as doing this for a living,
[52:38] Speaker 1: now just random people for. Decades And i've never had
[52:42] Speaker 1: a conversation at a. Bar JUST i got a construction
[52:47] Speaker 1: project going on in my. BACKYARD i was just talking
[52:49] Speaker 1: football with like the guy running the project building a
[52:53] Speaker 1: little office out. There hopefully we'll be able to move
[52:56] Speaker 1: out there the next. Month on a golf course with
[52:59] Speaker 1: my buddies and these advanced stats have ever come up
[53:03] Speaker 1: that they never. Do, now if you work for a, team,
[53:07] Speaker 1: right if You're Howie roseman and you're trying to build the,
[53:10] Speaker 1: team should you look into what the advanced stats say
[53:13] Speaker 1: on an individual, player whether it's a free agent or
[53:15] Speaker 1: a draft. Pick of course you'd be crazy not. To
[53:17] Speaker 1: but just in the way that we Discuss Joe burrow
[53:20] Speaker 1: Or Patrick, MAHOMES i don't think you would have a
[53:23] Speaker 1: casual conversation with someone and they would bring up HIS.
[53:27] Speaker 1: EPA i just. Don't i've never had, that AND i
[53:31] Speaker 1: talk about football literally every day for decades on. End
[53:35] Speaker 1: SO i do think there are two ways to look at. It,
[53:38] Speaker 1: ONE i think if we dove into, it like you,
[53:40] Speaker 1: said that would be something you'd, go, well why does
[53:44] Speaker 1: he have an issue more than these other? GUYS i
[53:45] Speaker 1: would say this Watching Patrick mahomes And Josh, allen they
[53:48] Speaker 1: hold on the, ball sometimes probably too much at. Times
[53:52] Speaker 1: the difference is they're, both Especially, josh a much better
[53:55] Speaker 1: athlete Than. Joe so If joe's holding onto the, ball
[53:59] Speaker 1: he doesn't have the ability like some of these. Guys,
[54:02] Speaker 1: Herbert Josh, Allen Jalen hurts to run. Away he's going
[54:05] Speaker 1: to get sacked because he's not their level of. Athlete
[54:09] Speaker 1: but he has to hold onto the ball, sometimes like you,
[54:12] Speaker 1: said to make things. HAPPEN i bet if we did
[54:13] Speaker 1: a breakdown the last couple of, years his team's not
[54:16] Speaker 1: as good as. Theirs so like there's no one can.
[54:20] Speaker 1: Argue and part of the advanced stats, guys they like
[54:25] Speaker 1: they believe there's no emotion involved in any given stat,
[54:28] Speaker 1: Right like a long standing argument in baseball has been
[54:32] Speaker 1: there's no different than in a bat In game four
[54:35] Speaker 1: of The World series than In august of a game
[54:39] Speaker 1: at one o'clock against The Chicago White. Sox they believe
[54:42] Speaker 1: every individual situation is an, independent you, know exercise for that. Statistic,
[54:49] Speaker 1: right that's AN, ab that's AN. Ab they're all the,
[54:51] Speaker 1: same and most of us human being, goes, no there's
[54:54] Speaker 1: there's this thing called, pressure like and then they're, like,
[54:57] Speaker 1: well there's no such. Thing it's, like, well they're kind
[54:59] Speaker 1: Of and when you know that it is trust thrust
[55:04] Speaker 1: upon you that if we don't score thirty thirty five,
[55:07] Speaker 1: points we are going to. Lose that is a different
[55:10] Speaker 1: level of playing the. Sport then If i'm playing, quarterback
[55:15] Speaker 1: for the best defense in the league. History IF i
[55:17] Speaker 1: have the eighty Five bears, Defense i'm going to approach
[55:21] Speaker 1: on a weekly basis much different than IF i have
[55:23] Speaker 1: one of the worst defense in the. League Right IT'S
[55:25] Speaker 1: i say the same thing like IF i give you
[55:27] Speaker 1: a putt from ten feet for five, dollars you might
[55:31] Speaker 1: look at it a little. Different IF i, go, hey
[55:33] Speaker 1: this putt is for twenty five thousand, dollars you might
[55:36] Speaker 1: feel in your bones a little. Bit it's no different
[55:38] Speaker 1: than playing. Quarterback you, know there's pressure on you to
[55:40] Speaker 1: get the job done because if you, don't your team will.
[55:42] Speaker 1: Lose SO i would imagine if we did a deep deep.
[55:46] Speaker 1: Dive have there ben sacks that are on him that
[55:52] Speaker 1: he probably doesn't you, know take like get the fault
[55:58] Speaker 1: doesn't fall on him from a media perspective like it
[56:01] Speaker 1: would on some other. Quarterbacks, sure BUT i also think
[56:04] Speaker 1: is he are they very dependent on him making plays
[56:08] Speaker 1: out of as you know? What of course they got.
[56:12] Speaker 1: ISSUES i mean that that. Franchise what a bizarre. FRANCHISE i,
[56:16] Speaker 1: mean it really. Is what a CRAZY i still can't
[56:18] Speaker 1: believe they. WON a couple of days ago And flacco
[56:21] Speaker 1: had one of the cooler moments THAT i THAT i
[56:23] Speaker 1: remember this so far this season pretty pretty nuts that.
[56:26] Speaker 1: Happened this Is Dzy stark here straight From South. Africa
[56:45] Speaker 1: we made it to The World, cup So i'm coming
[56:46] Speaker 1: to THE. Us. Baby relate so much to. You been
[56:50] Speaker 1: in corporate finance for a couple of years and now
[56:52] Speaker 1: we're in a private equity. Fund you would have been
[56:55] Speaker 1: a dog in. Finance that personality is the type PEOPLE
[57:00] Speaker 1: i like to hire for my. Team, Well, stark if
[57:02] Speaker 1: times ever get dark over here At, SCOTTSDALE i might
[57:04] Speaker 1: have to give you a. CALL i usually agree with
[57:07] Speaker 1: the majority of your, points BUT i have to disagree
[57:09] Speaker 1: with you with The colts And. Charlie you totally thought
[57:12] Speaker 1: it was a, gimmick but hands on leadership is key
[57:15] Speaker 1: to success because the team feels as if you were
[57:18] Speaker 1: there with them in the. Trenches what's your take? Now
[57:21] Speaker 1: when you Say, CHARLIE i don't know her, NAME i
[57:24] Speaker 1: would imagine you're alluding to The, colts one Of ersa's
[57:28] Speaker 1: daughters who wears the headset on the. Sideline i'm not
[57:33] Speaker 1: to like egotistical or. Narcissistic narcissistic to think That i'm
[57:39] Speaker 1: always right and my take that it was kind of
[57:42] Speaker 1: a clown show her doing, That like could be very very,
[57:46] Speaker 1: wrong BUT i do feel pretty confident that they haven't
[57:51] Speaker 1: won or lost because she's on the sideline with a.
[57:54] Speaker 1: Headset LIKE i think a huge reason for their success,
[57:58] Speaker 1: is like their quarterback play has been really really, good
[58:01] Speaker 1: so like her, Leadership like players aren't looking to her for,
[58:05] Speaker 1: leadership and, honestly Like Chris ballard and especially the coach
[58:11] Speaker 1: Stike in and Lou amruno and their coaching, staff like
[58:14] Speaker 1: they're not paying attention to her at all during the.
[58:17] Speaker 1: Game so when they were losing games the last couple
[58:19] Speaker 1: of years With Anthony, Richson, flacco, whoever and now they're winning, Them,
[58:24] Speaker 1: LIKE i think it has little to do with her
[58:29] Speaker 1: on a headset taking. Notes. Now who. Knows here's WHERE
[58:32] Speaker 1: i could be. Wrong maybe she has given them, ideas
[58:35] Speaker 1: because the one thing she can do is they're so
[58:41] Speaker 1: inundated and deep into. It there are things when you're
[58:44] Speaker 1: so close to the sun you can't even realize what's going.
[58:46] Speaker 1: On so maybe she could give them a few, ideas
[58:50] Speaker 1: not necessarily plays or, anything but just some big picture macro.
[58:55] Speaker 1: Thoughts not putting that pastor at, all but they were
[58:59] Speaker 1: not gonna win or lose because of her on a
[59:03] Speaker 1: headset on the. SIDELINE i guess that was my entire.
[59:05] Speaker 1: Point do DO i think it's a little? PERFORMATIVE i? Do?
[59:09] Speaker 1: Uh is there a chance that she is one hundred
[59:11] Speaker 1: percent being? Truthful she needs to do, this AND i
[59:14] Speaker 1: think she's been doing it FOR i think she's been
[59:15] Speaker 1: doing it Since ursa passed, away OR i mean before he.
[59:18] Speaker 1: DIED i Think i'm pretty sure he's been doing this for.
[59:20] Speaker 1: Years so, YEAH i, mean if it works for, her
[59:23] Speaker 1: more power to. Her and If i'm A colts, FAN
[59:26] Speaker 1: i don't care either, way as long As Daniel jones
[59:28] Speaker 1: And Jonathan taylor scoring touchdowns and we're winning games six and? One? Baby?
[59:33] Speaker 1: Uh why did the stafford get talked about enough FOR? Mvp?
[59:38] Speaker 1: Has he has been on top of the quarterback stats all.
[59:41] Speaker 1: Season if The rams didn't have kicking, issues the record
[59:44] Speaker 1: could be even better than five and. TWO i feel
[59:46] Speaker 1: like he's always been underrated in his, career and that's
[59:49] Speaker 1: why he doesn't have many individual accolades Like Pro balls
[59:53] Speaker 1: And All pros as he. DESERVES i also wanted to
[59:56] Speaker 1: mention a sneaky important game that could be crucial when
[59:58] Speaker 1: it comes TO, mvp and that this week Twelve Sunday
[1:00:00] Speaker 1: night football between The rams and The, BUCCANEERS i think
[1:00:04] Speaker 1: the winner of that game could end up being THE.
[1:00:06] Speaker 1: Mvp like That christmas game between The ravens and The.
[1:00:09] Speaker 1: NINERS i think he's alluding To Brock purdy not playing.
[1:00:12] Speaker 1: Well Lamar JACKSON i think accounted or MAYBE i don't
[1:00:15] Speaker 1: know if he, threw but he counted for five touchdowns
[1:00:17] Speaker 1: and then the rest is. HISTORY i was shocked to
[1:00:21] Speaker 1: See stafford's status yesterday WHEN i was going on With.
[1:00:24] Speaker 1: Colin obviously he HAD i mean two of his last
[1:00:26] Speaker 1: three games The niners, loss which is definitely not on.
[1:00:30] Speaker 1: Him he had three touchdowns yesterday at. FIVE i think
[1:00:34] Speaker 1: he has seventeen to two ratio right, now and he's
[1:00:37] Speaker 1: just an elite. Player AND i, listen it was pretty
[1:00:40] Speaker 1: scary in the offseason if you were, McVeigh if you were,
[1:00:43] Speaker 1: anybody if like his back was. Hurting now maybe they
[1:00:46] Speaker 1: knew it was gonna be, okay BUT i was pretty.
[1:00:49] Speaker 1: Concerned and, honestly he's shown zero indication that has had any,
[1:00:55] Speaker 1: impact and he's been. Awesome they're, GOOD i, mean they're
[1:00:57] Speaker 1: they're really, good And DeVante to go With puka and that,
[1:01:01] Speaker 1: defense they're gonna be a. Problem so to, me the
[1:01:04] Speaker 1: one thing they have if their guy is, healthy they
[1:01:08] Speaker 1: can beat anyone in the LEAGUE afc as, well like
[1:01:11] Speaker 1: they can win The Super bowl Because stafford's that, good
[1:01:13] Speaker 1: their defense that, good their coaching staff's that. Good so,
[1:01:16] Speaker 1: YEAH i wouldn't discount them at. All i'm recording this
[1:01:19] Speaker 1: before The sunday night game or The monday night game
[1:01:22] Speaker 1: When baker's, Playing but it does, feel at least based
[1:01:26] Speaker 1: on the, odds that he still GOT i don't know
[1:01:28] Speaker 1: if some uphill climb to make to, me he'd be
[1:01:30] Speaker 1: the betting favorite as of whatever week we're. In week,
[1:01:34] Speaker 1: seven But holmes ahead of, Him Josh allen's ahead of,
[1:01:37] Speaker 1: him seems a little crazy to. Me who's the blame
[1:01:41] Speaker 1: for The? Raiders Mark davis has been making all the right.
[1:01:43] Speaker 1: Moves Either pete is now a wash Like, belichick or
[1:01:46] Speaker 1: your Boy spytech is out of his. League, WELL i
[1:01:55] Speaker 1: think a couple of things can be TR i get
[1:01:57] Speaker 1: another question question for the. Pod do you think there's
[1:01:59] Speaker 1: any Chance, Brady Spy tech And pete can turn The raiders?
[1:02:02] Speaker 1: AROUND i feel like they need a better quarterback and
[1:02:04] Speaker 1: two good defensive. Backs, well against The, Chiefs crosby got,
[1:02:09] Speaker 1: Injured bowers is. Out gino's been. Atrocious he's had a horrendous.
[1:02:14] Speaker 1: SEASON i do think we need to acknowledge That Chip
[1:02:17] Speaker 1: Kelly higher is kind of. Insane they're paying him three,
[1:02:21] Speaker 1: years six million dollars a. Year he's had an eighteen
[1:02:25] Speaker 1: million dollar. Contract if you go back a couple of years,
[1:02:27] Speaker 1: ago his his last year AT, Ucla Dante, moore who's
[1:02:34] Speaker 1: now like a potential number one overall, Pick Heisman trophy
[1:02:38] Speaker 1: level guy At oregon looked a. Troach chip hasn't been
[1:02:41] Speaker 1: good at offense for many many. Years you, go what
[1:02:44] Speaker 1: About Ohio. State, well last year was a little. Rocky
[1:02:48] Speaker 1: he had one of the worst game plans you'd ever
[1:02:49] Speaker 1: seen Against, michigan a team that had no business Beating
[1:02:52] Speaker 1: Ohio state when he has three elite wide, receivers TWO
[1:02:56] Speaker 1: nfl running, backs AND nfl quarterback and he got worked
[1:03:00] Speaker 1: By Wink martindale and then they got hot in the.
[1:03:02] Speaker 1: Playoffs but like this version Of chip is the guy
[1:03:06] Speaker 1: that has been in recent, memory he's not very. Good
[1:03:10] Speaker 1: but here's the, Thing Pete carroll has proven he will
[1:03:12] Speaker 1: fire offensive. Coordinators he's Fired, bevil he's Fired. SHOTTENHEIMER a
[1:03:17] Speaker 1: lot of guys got fired on the offensive side of
[1:03:19] Speaker 1: the ball When Pete carroll was In, seattle a lot of.
[1:03:22] Speaker 1: Guys SO i would Say chip is in major. Trouble
[1:03:26] Speaker 1: six million dollars a, year six million dollars a year
[1:03:29] Speaker 1: for Chip. Kelly that to me is an agent With
[1:03:34] Speaker 1: brady And pete, like, well just. Insane, honestly it didn't
[1:03:36] Speaker 1: even make that much. Sense Pete carroll And Chip kelly
[1:03:39] Speaker 1: that they feel like polar. Opposites Pete carroll's much more
[1:03:43] Speaker 1: like nineteen, eighties, nineties you, know use a full, back
[1:03:47] Speaker 1: couple tight, ends slam the. Ball chip is like this more,
[1:03:51] Speaker 1: modern spread it out offense that doesn't really. Work and
[1:03:55] Speaker 1: let's face, it like his quarterback, situation Like gino was
[1:03:59] Speaker 1: up and down the last couple. Years, yeah he didn't
[1:04:01] Speaker 1: look like. This when can The jets fans say enough is?
[1:04:07] Speaker 1: Enough Aaron glenn seems like he's. Drowning he calls beat
[1:04:11] Speaker 1: reporters questions about fields remaining the starter stupid and then
[1:04:15] Speaker 1: seven days later benches him against The. Panthers is it
[1:04:18] Speaker 1: time to pull the, plug since the idea of this
[1:04:21] Speaker 1: current administration picking the next franchise quarterback is questionable at
[1:04:25] Speaker 1: best when you are a really shitty team and The
[1:04:29] Speaker 1: jets have been, really really. BAD i know they have
[1:04:31] Speaker 1: some good individual, players BUT i would say the same
[1:04:34] Speaker 1: thing about The. RAIDERS i think you could say the
[1:04:36] Speaker 1: same thing about whoever takes over The. Dolphins you got
[1:04:40] Speaker 1: to take a deep breath and kind of let it play.
[1:04:43] Speaker 1: Out this season is really, ugly and you could argue
[1:04:46] Speaker 1: he feels completely over his head because there aren't that
[1:04:50] Speaker 1: many parallels from being a coordinator and being a head.
[1:04:52] Speaker 1: Coach when he was with The, lions he did not
[1:04:55] Speaker 1: have to deal With Jared goff at. All remember early
[1:04:58] Speaker 1: on In Jared goff's tenuere like you might get. Benched
[1:05:01] Speaker 1: that was Not Aaron glenn's. Problem everything falls on. Him
[1:05:04] Speaker 1: Brees hall wants a trade, request that's his. Problem like
[1:05:08] Speaker 1: When Jamison williams over the last couple of years would
[1:05:11] Speaker 1: cause some problems with The, Lions like that Wasn't Aaron glenn's.
[1:05:13] Speaker 1: Issue so you go to the seat And Aaron glenn's
[1:05:16] Speaker 1: been around football his whole, life elite, player, scouted, coach
[1:05:21] Speaker 1: there's nothing that can prepare you for that. Seat and
[1:05:23] Speaker 1: here's the other. Thing he's being inserted in that seat
[1:05:26] Speaker 1: in an organization that's a fucking. Debacle SO I i
[1:05:32] Speaker 1: think you just got to give him a couple of
[1:05:33] Speaker 1: years like he we have seen some one and done,
[1:05:36] Speaker 1: guys The Nate, hacketts The Tom. Sulas i've Given Aaron
[1:05:41] Speaker 1: glenn a little more. Leeway he's earned that at least
[1:05:44] Speaker 1: with his previous. Stops and to, me if you are LIKE,
[1:05:48] Speaker 1: i this sounds, crazy but let's say they go on in.
[1:05:52] Speaker 1: Seventeen let's let's say they go one in. Sixteen, Like
[1:05:56] Speaker 1: i'm just taking a deep breath and letting him get
[1:05:59] Speaker 1: a couple years. NOW i do want to know If
[1:06:02] Speaker 1: I'm woody Or woody's kid who was pounding the table
[1:06:05] Speaker 1: for justin. Fields have you guys been watching football like
[1:06:09] Speaker 1: in what? World like one, year five, million no, issue two,
[1:06:13] Speaker 1: years forty million dollars thirty? Guaranteed who are we bitting?
[1:06:17] Speaker 1: Against who had the idea in a free agency? MEETING
[1:06:22] Speaker 1: i want to know the position. COACH i want to
[1:06:24] Speaker 1: know the. COORDINATOR i want to know THE gm and
[1:06:25] Speaker 1: the head coach who signed off on this ship because
[1:06:28] Speaker 1: this is. Nuts we all like the. Guy he has
[1:06:31] Speaker 1: been an impressive young man in THE, nfl has handled
[1:06:34] Speaker 1: a lot of weird stuff, well a high character. GUY
[1:06:38] Speaker 1: i am pro justin fields the human. Being as a,
[1:06:40] Speaker 1: player he's. Atrocious he's not very. Good so whose idea was?
[1:06:45] Speaker 1: This that's What i'd want to know If I'm woody
[1:06:47] Speaker 1: or one of his crazy. Kids he's always Playing. Madden
[1:06:51] Speaker 1: if THE nfl did a redraft next, year who would
[1:06:54] Speaker 1: be the top five picks in the, draft and who
[1:06:57] Speaker 1: do you think would be the first non quarterback off the?
[1:06:59] Speaker 1: Board how many quarterbacks would be taken before other positions
[1:07:03] Speaker 1: start to get. SELECTED i think we've done this. Before
[1:07:07] Speaker 1: there'd be a lot of quarterbacks come off the board
[1:07:10] Speaker 1: because you get to a guy like you'd be better
[1:07:12] Speaker 1: off With Dak prescott for the next five years than
[1:07:14] Speaker 1: you would Be Micah, Parsons Max, crosby who's like a
[1:07:19] Speaker 1: young you, Know Trent williams And Lane johnson are old
[1:07:22] Speaker 1: but like their version of that player, wharfs you, Know Joe,
[1:07:25] Speaker 1: alt guys like. THAT i would take the second tier
[1:07:29] Speaker 1: quarterbacks over those. Guys SO i think we've done this.
[1:07:34] Speaker 1: Before it's probably ten quarterbacks before a non quarterback gets.
[1:07:37] Speaker 1: Picked AND i do think it would depend on who's
[1:07:41] Speaker 1: picking to what player got, picked. RIGHT i mean a
[1:07:45] Speaker 1: lot of the old school guys would go defensive or offensive.
[1:07:48] Speaker 1: LINEMAN i do think there would be some new school
[1:07:50] Speaker 1: guys that might take Like Justin jefferson Or Jamar, chase
[1:07:55] Speaker 1: which to me would be. Crazy but let's say if
[1:07:57] Speaker 1: you're Taken Jamar chase in a, draft, like it's hard
[1:07:59] Speaker 1: for me to blame. You do you Think Zach robinson
[1:08:03] Speaker 1: is over his head as an Nfloc he just doesn't
[1:08:05] Speaker 1: seem to have awareness to adjust and tries the same stupid,
[1:08:09] Speaker 1: plays that ridiculous outside zone run that kept the forty nine.
[1:08:12] Speaker 1: Ers the forty nine ers kept blowing up in, particular
[1:08:16] Speaker 1: especially in crucial. Situations is he holding the team back
[1:08:19] Speaker 1: or are we just flat out screwed due to bad quarterback.
[1:08:22] Speaker 1: Choices i've always said, this there is like an instinctive
[1:08:27] Speaker 1: nature to play, calling and it's pretty easy to watch
[1:08:31] Speaker 1: a natural play caller and watch a guy who is
[1:08:34] Speaker 1: not cut out for the. Job AND i would say
[1:08:37] Speaker 1: The Zach, ROBINSON i mean, one The Atlanta falcons are
[1:08:42] Speaker 1: just pretty chaotic. Place you, KNOW i think this all
[1:08:47] Speaker 1: stems back to the way the process of The cousins
[1:08:50] Speaker 1: And Michael pennick's signing slash selection. Happened is pretty unprecedented
[1:08:58] Speaker 1: because they have this new, administration but THE gm is
[1:09:01] Speaker 1: staying and they fell in love With Michael pennix like
[1:09:04] Speaker 1: three weeks before the. Draft that's just not a good
[1:09:07] Speaker 1: process where it's like THE, gm you should have had
[1:09:11] Speaker 1: some knowledge if you're drafting eighth of let's really study
[1:09:15] Speaker 1: these quarterbacks when you guys get hired. Before we Give
[1:09:18] Speaker 1: Kirk cousins all this money and we could have had
[1:09:22] Speaker 1: a more well rounded team and just gone in With,
[1:09:24] Speaker 1: pennix who Now cousins is just twenty seven point five
[1:09:28] Speaker 1: million dollars is a backup, quarterback which is. INSANE i
[1:09:32] Speaker 1: just think, that you, know the outside zone. THING i
[1:09:35] Speaker 1: have no problem with Giving beijon more. TOUCHES i honestly
[1:09:39] Speaker 1: think they didn't give him enough touches because part of
[1:09:42] Speaker 1: the outside zone is like The niners are blowing it.
[1:09:44] Speaker 1: Up all it takes is him to one cut back
[1:09:45] Speaker 1: and have a forty yard. RUN i thought that they
[1:09:48] Speaker 1: got away from him too, often and, YEAH i MEAN
[1:09:53] Speaker 1: i it just hasn't gone. Well it just and the
[1:09:58] Speaker 1: reality is when you're Ahem, dorus whoever you hired as
[1:10:02] Speaker 1: your coordinator to be the, baby to like make the
[1:10:05] Speaker 1: offense their, baby you were gonna be pretty beholden to
[1:10:09] Speaker 1: and his. Success like if you hired the Next Kyle,
[1:10:12] Speaker 1: Shanahan sean, McVay kevin, O'Connell you'd be in really good
[1:10:15] Speaker 1: shape and your offense would be. Potent but if you
[1:10:18] Speaker 1: hired a guy who just, struggled And zach has had
[1:10:21] Speaker 1: some good, moments but it does feel like he's had
[1:10:23] Speaker 1: more bad moments than good, moments you're on the fast
[1:10:27] Speaker 1: track to all getting. FIRED i Think atlanta is in major.
[1:10:30] Speaker 1: TROUBLE i think the job status for everyone in that
[1:10:33] Speaker 1: building is up in the. Air if they don't make the.
[1:10:36] Speaker 1: Playoffs it would not shock me at off every single
[1:10:39] Speaker 1: human got, fired coaching, staff in front office if they
[1:10:42] Speaker 1: end up eight to nine and The bucks cruise to
[1:10:44] Speaker 1: eleven or twelve wins and teams like the, NIGHT i,
[1:10:47] Speaker 1: mean you just lost the forty nine. Ers who's you know?
[1:10:53] Speaker 1: Best two defensive, players once at home with a torn
[1:10:55] Speaker 1: acl and the other has a cast riding a scooter
[1:10:58] Speaker 1: round up in a suite that's who beats you and
[1:11:01] Speaker 1: you Have Bjon, Robinson Drake london And Kyle. Pitts how
[1:11:04] Speaker 1: does that? Happen pennix was, Bad penix did not look,
[1:11:09] Speaker 1: good looked really. Bad And i'm A penis, guy but
[1:11:11] Speaker 1: that was what the hell's going on? There can you
[1:11:15] Speaker 1: make the point that part of the reason the forty
[1:11:18] Speaker 1: Nine ers are still competitive is the fact That shanahan
[1:11:21] Speaker 1: is a. Badass like The, falcons they have way more
[1:11:24] Speaker 1: talent and the fact That niners are currently winning is pure. Coaching,
[1:11:30] Speaker 1: YEAH i mean last, night AND i said this immediately
[1:11:34] Speaker 1: after the game IS i think the hardest part in,
[1:11:38] Speaker 1: football and every coach talks about this from high school
[1:11:41] Speaker 1: obviously to college and the pros is culture is a
[1:11:46] Speaker 1: tone being set by the leadership from a head coach
[1:11:49] Speaker 1: to the star, players and the forty Nine ers relative
[1:11:52] Speaker 1: to The, falcons like it's not a fair, fight man for,
[1:11:56] Speaker 1: man guy for. Guy you could argue The falcons were
[1:11:58] Speaker 1: a better team going into the game just individual, players
[1:12:02] Speaker 1: but football is a team game led by the coaches
[1:12:05] Speaker 1: and the coordinators and THE nfl more than high. School
[1:12:09] Speaker 1: in college is a lot about the x's and no's
[1:12:13] Speaker 1: and inspiring The jimmy's and The joe's to play within the.
[1:12:16] Speaker 1: Scheme and What kyle And Robert salah and they did
[1:12:22] Speaker 1: was just a. Masterclass kyle's had some incredible wins in
[1:12:26] Speaker 1: his tenure as a, coach but he's had some really good.
[1:12:28] Speaker 1: Teams you, know Said he's had teams that are star
[1:12:31] Speaker 1: studded with all pros and high priced. Guys when you're
[1:12:34] Speaker 1: Missing Fred warner And Nick bosa and you can Take
[1:12:37] Speaker 1: Tatum bethoom and some of these random, rookies some slot
[1:12:44] Speaker 1: Receiver lucas or slot, Corner it's, like what is going
[1:12:47] Speaker 1: On Mac. Jones it's pretty. Nuts and meanwhile they're dealing
[1:12:52] Speaker 1: with the eighth overall pick In, Pennix Drake, london the
[1:12:55] Speaker 1: fourth overall, Pick, beijon the eighth, Pick Drake, london the
[1:12:59] Speaker 1: seventh pick or eighth. PICK i, mean it's just the
[1:13:01] Speaker 1: how is this? Happening and the answer is. Simple those
[1:13:04] Speaker 1: people are over their head that they're not good. Enough
[1:13:09] Speaker 1: AND i Think Raheem, morris Like Kyle, shanahan would love
[1:13:11] Speaker 1: to Have Raheem morris on his. Staff If Robert sala
[1:13:14] Speaker 1: becomes the head coach of The titans or The Arizona
[1:13:18] Speaker 1: cardinals this. Offseason it would not stun me at all
[1:13:20] Speaker 1: if they all get. Fired he Hires Raheem morris to
[1:13:22] Speaker 1: be his defensive, coordinator but, like that's probably what he
[1:13:25] Speaker 1: is and there's nothing wrong with, that Asked. Roberts. Sol
[1:13:28] Speaker 1: he's making five six million dollars a. Year same thing
[1:13:30] Speaker 1: With Vic. Fangio some people are just not meant to
[1:13:32] Speaker 1: be head coaches because it's really. Hard i'm not acting
[1:13:36] Speaker 1: LIKE i could do every, role just like most of you.
[1:13:38] Speaker 1: Listening there are certain roles that a lot of us
[1:13:41] Speaker 1: could not. Do we'd be, overwhelmed couldn't, focus you, know
[1:13:44] Speaker 1: the details would get lost in. Translation we would. Fail
[1:13:48] Speaker 1: and it's no different being a quarterback in THE, nfl
[1:13:51] Speaker 1: being a being a coordinator in THE, nfl definitely being
[1:13:54] Speaker 1: a head coach in THE. Nfl there are certain guys
[1:13:56] Speaker 1: that are not, qualified or let me rephrase, that that
[1:13:59] Speaker 1: are qualified on. Paper but it's like. Academia you could
[1:14:03] Speaker 1: give me a lot of theories on a. Whiteboard let's
[1:14:04] Speaker 1: get out in the real, world supply. Demand give me
[1:14:07] Speaker 1: all that. Bullshit can you go sell this ice to An?
[1:14:09] Speaker 1: Eskimo can you create a business based on these, widgets
[1:14:13] Speaker 1: because if you, can't, LIKE i don't give a shit
[1:14:14] Speaker 1: what you teach me in this. TEXTBOOK a lot of
[1:14:17] Speaker 1: guys can talk, football can you, know sell you on a,
[1:14:21] Speaker 1: vision but, like can they execute it with the actual
[1:14:23] Speaker 1: team and their coaching staff in a? Building and the
[1:14:26] Speaker 1: answer clearly is no. Question what If kyle decided to
[1:14:30] Speaker 1: Draft Mac jones at third overall instead Of Trey lance
[1:14:34] Speaker 1: the small sample, Size max looked pretty damn good Running kyle's.
[1:14:37] Speaker 1: Offense at least he would have gotten somewhat of a
[1:14:40] Speaker 1: return on the third overall. Pick that's an incredible. HYPOTHETICAL
[1:14:46] Speaker 1: i think he would have been good enough That Brock
[1:14:47] Speaker 1: purty never, happens AND i DON'T i don't know Because
[1:14:53] Speaker 1: Mac jones is not as good As Brock purdy because
[1:14:55] Speaker 1: he can't. Move but he definitely is better than the
[1:14:58] Speaker 1: guy that we saw in New ing in the last
[1:15:00] Speaker 1: couple of. Years because in this offense that is very quarterback.
[1:15:04] Speaker 1: Friendly kyle schemes guys open when the running game. Works
[1:15:08] Speaker 1: it's just it's a great place to be a quarterback
[1:15:10] Speaker 1: in the. Offense most of these guys that play in this,
[1:15:12] Speaker 1: offense they rave about. It because it it's easier on.
[1:15:16] Speaker 1: You they're Not kyle's not asking you to carry the,
[1:15:19] Speaker 1: ship and Mac jones can't carry the. Ship DO i
[1:15:22] Speaker 1: think he would have been a quote unquote bust BECAUSE
[1:15:25] Speaker 1: i think and, listen he's resurrecting his, career but, anytime
[1:15:28] Speaker 1: like to The, patriots he was a. Bust, right he
[1:15:31] Speaker 1: did not get a contract, extension he was. Gone they
[1:15:34] Speaker 1: traded him to The. Jacks DO i think he would
[1:15:37] Speaker 1: have been from being? Drafted is he still currently the?
[1:15:41] Speaker 1: Starter i'm probably fifty to fifty on, that BECAUSE i
[1:15:44] Speaker 1: do think he has some physical limitations AND i, think you,
[1:15:51] Speaker 1: know part of what made pretty special over a couple
[1:15:54] Speaker 1: course of a couple of years was his athletic ability
[1:15:57] Speaker 1: and his ad. Libability now it also has got him
[1:15:59] Speaker 1: in trouble, Recently like he's throwing some bad picks scrambling.
[1:16:02] Speaker 1: Around but Mac jones cannot do that even when he's.
[1:16:04] Speaker 1: Healthy so and the forty Nine ers don't exactly have
[1:16:08] Speaker 1: the greatest offensive line in the league, history so he'd
[1:16:10] Speaker 1: be getting hit a. LOT i definitely, think like you,
[1:16:14] Speaker 1: Know Trey lance didn't make it the year. Three he
[1:16:16] Speaker 1: was traded before week one to The. COWBOYS i think
[1:16:18] Speaker 1: Mac jones would have played out several, years like probably
[1:16:21] Speaker 1: four years. Now are they picking up a fifty year
[1:16:23] Speaker 1: option or they signed him a new. EXTENSION i do
[1:16:26] Speaker 1: Think kyle can be pretty, stubborn so he would have
[1:16:28] Speaker 1: probably done some of that if it was just going.
[1:16:30] Speaker 1: Decently but, like there's a big difference between competing to
[1:16:34] Speaker 1: win eight nine games and Like purdy was a starting
[1:16:37] Speaker 1: quarterback as the teams win a lot of. Games so
[1:16:39] Speaker 1: could Mac jones have done? THAT i definitely wouldn't say
[1:16:42] Speaker 1: he couldn't do, it BUT i wouldn't just feel confident
[1:16:45] Speaker 1: that it would look eighty percent of what party. Was
[1:16:49] Speaker 1: now that being, said he has been awesome this. YEAR
[1:16:51] Speaker 1: a ton of respect for, him AND i think he's
[1:16:54] Speaker 1: in his perfect. Role what Mac jones should be is
[1:16:58] Speaker 1: like the highest paid backup in THE, nfl and he
[1:17:00] Speaker 1: can play in the league for a long. Time Whatever
[1:17:02] Speaker 1: Chase daniel made forty fifty million, Dollars matt could make
[1:17:05] Speaker 1: one hundred and. FIFTY a lot of questions About Pete
[1:17:22] Speaker 1: carroll and The. RAIDERS i don't REALLY i don't really
[1:17:26] Speaker 1: know what to. SAY i don't think he's just gonna
[1:17:30] Speaker 1: get fired after one. Year you can't just keep firing
[1:17:32] Speaker 1: people year after year like that is just Not this
[1:17:35] Speaker 1: isn't like when you're twenty eight trying to find a
[1:17:38] Speaker 1: serious girlfriend and you just go on a lot of.
[1:17:39] Speaker 1: Dates you can't really operate like that with a. Coach
[1:17:43] Speaker 1: you Hire Pete, Carroll you've got to give him a
[1:17:45] Speaker 1: couple of years to kind of do what he. Does.
[1:17:47] Speaker 1: Now if it doesn't, work it doesn't. Work if his
[1:17:49] Speaker 1: magic is, gone his magic's. Gone but you can't just
[1:17:52] Speaker 1: seven games in because it's not going that. Well be
[1:17:54] Speaker 1: like we got to get rid of for Who you're
[1:17:56] Speaker 1: gonna fire him for? What coach and everything that he
[1:18:00] Speaker 1: just spent, nine, ten twelve months. Doing do you just
[1:18:04] Speaker 1: erase all that from the building and start from. Scratch
[1:18:07] Speaker 1: SO I i think you've got to be very careful
[1:18:09] Speaker 1: about Doing And i'd say the same thing About Aaron,
[1:18:11] Speaker 1: glenn like give him a couple of. YEARS i saw
[1:18:14] Speaker 1: he used to have a podcast on the. Volume now
[1:18:16] Speaker 1: he's With Barstool, tbob who played FOR lsu for a.
[1:18:19] Speaker 1: While he went ON i saw On instagram this epic.
[1:18:21] Speaker 1: Rant he's just so tired of all these college coaches
[1:18:25] Speaker 1: being paid fifty sixty seventy million dollars to go. Away
[1:18:29] Speaker 1: it's like he's AN lsu grad and he played AT
[1:18:32] Speaker 1: lsu and like their. Heyday like With Les, MILES i
[1:18:34] Speaker 1: think he was a freshman on a national championship. TEAM
[1:18:37] Speaker 1: i think his senior year he went back to the national.
[1:18:39] Speaker 1: Championship they lost To. Bama but he was on some
[1:18:41] Speaker 1: elite teams with elite. Players and his whole take was,
[1:18:44] Speaker 1: Like i'm not cool with Paying Brian kelly fifty million
[1:18:46] Speaker 1: dollars to go? Away how about, This Brian, kelly fire
[1:18:49] Speaker 1: some coaches and figure it to bleep? Out, like how
[1:18:52] Speaker 1: about you get back to like a ten to eleven
[1:18:55] Speaker 1: win team like you had At Notre. Dame it's what
[1:18:56] Speaker 1: we're paying you to. Do so is this gonna be? Miserable,
[1:18:59] Speaker 1: yeah but we're not paying you to go play golf In.
[1:19:03] Speaker 1: Florida that's not gonna happen. Here we're paying you to,
[1:19:05] Speaker 1: work paying you to. Coach and the reason he got
[1:19:07] Speaker 1: ninety million dollars is for a, decade you won a
[1:19:10] Speaker 1: lot of games In Notre. Dame so now you're AT.
[1:19:11] Speaker 1: Lsu figure it. Out AND i was, like you know,
[1:19:14] Speaker 1: WHAT i kind of, agree like are we just gonna
[1:19:16] Speaker 1: pay all the like the one thing With James. Franklin
[1:19:19] Speaker 1: James franklin had been there over a, decade so it's, like,
[1:19:22] Speaker 1: yeah you kind of. Know Brian kelly is a year. Four,
[1:19:24] Speaker 1: now DO i think he's in? Trouble? Yes DO i
[1:19:26] Speaker 1: think he's going? Well of course. Not BUT i also do, understand,
[1:19:29] Speaker 1: like what are we doing? Here can't we just give
[1:19:33] Speaker 1: him like five or six or seven years to, like
[1:19:36] Speaker 1: we're paying him to try to figure this out and
[1:19:38] Speaker 1: maybe he's gonna, fail but we gotta pay him no matter,
[1:19:40] Speaker 1: What so we might as well attempt to see, if
[1:19:44] Speaker 1: like maybe year five this pops and maybe. Doesn't But
[1:19:48] Speaker 1: i'm not paying him to go play country club golf
[1:19:52] Speaker 1: six days a week for three. Years why are there
[1:19:58] Speaker 1: so many terrible purgatory franchise in THE? Nfl it seems
[1:20:02] Speaker 1: like every year the top ten teams drafting is just
[1:20:05] Speaker 1: a different combination of the same ten. Teams is it
[1:20:08] Speaker 1: bad ownership for an office or really just bad juju
[1:20:11] Speaker 1: certain franchises can't. Shake just look at The giants game
[1:20:15] Speaker 1: against The. Broncos it's an incredible choke, job but they
[1:20:19] Speaker 1: have at least three of these a. Season uh you,
[1:20:25] Speaker 1: KNOW i obviously ownership plays a, role, Right but at
[1:20:29] Speaker 1: the end of the, day most of these owners are
[1:20:31] Speaker 1: Not Dan snyder that they're not telling you who to
[1:20:34] Speaker 1: draft in the first round after you've done all the
[1:20:37] Speaker 1: work and they show up ten minutes before round, one
[1:20:40] Speaker 1: grab a cheeseburger and some, sushi and then when your
[1:20:43] Speaker 1: pick comes up number seven, overall they pointed a, name they,
[1:20:46] Speaker 1: say that's who you're. Picking most of these guys legitimately
[1:20:50] Speaker 1: hire people and let them. Cook and most of these
[1:20:53] Speaker 1: people are just completely over their. Head let's look at The.
[1:20:56] Speaker 1: Lions is The ford family a complete? Joke you would
[1:21:01] Speaker 1: have said for most of my? Life hell, yeah their
[1:21:03] Speaker 1: ownership is an. Embarrassment and then what they. Do they
[1:21:07] Speaker 1: hired two guys who are good at their. Jobs and
[1:21:10] Speaker 1: what has happened to The lions ever? Since they've won
[1:21:12] Speaker 1: and they've become a real. Franchise the drafts in the,
[1:21:15] Speaker 1: twenties the players in the first round the second round
[1:21:18] Speaker 1: made it to AN nfc championship game for the first
[1:21:20] Speaker 1: time in thirty. Years that, again recording this before The
[1:21:23] Speaker 1: monday night, game is going to compete again to win
[1:21:25] Speaker 1: the division like they're just. Real but what did they
[1:21:29] Speaker 1: do anything different or did they just hire the right? People,
[1:21:32] Speaker 1: so LIKE i saw The giants With Jerry reese And Tom,
[1:21:34] Speaker 1: coughlin like they were a pretty stable, franchise and then
[1:21:38] Speaker 1: ever since they've just gone through, gms they've gone through
[1:21:40] Speaker 1: head coaches and spent at, Debacle like The, titans are
[1:21:43] Speaker 1: they an? Embarrassment, well they are, now and they were
[1:21:46] Speaker 1: Before vrabel when they Had brabel And John, Robinson like
[1:21:48] Speaker 1: they felt like a pretty stable. Operation AND i think
[1:21:51] Speaker 1: players that played there would tell you that. Too SO
[1:21:57] Speaker 1: i think in a weird, way there's just a huge
[1:22:00] Speaker 1: element of. Luck do you hire the right? Guy and
[1:22:03] Speaker 1: sometimes like you deserve criticism for being cheap on, hire you,
[1:22:08] Speaker 1: know forever The, Chargers like what do you think you're
[1:22:10] Speaker 1: gonna get when you're Hiring Brandis day or you, Know Anthony,
[1:22:14] Speaker 1: leonard these guys they're not going to be head coaches,
[1:22:16] Speaker 1: Anywhere like you, deserve you, know all the criticism that
[1:22:21] Speaker 1: comes your way from the, fans the, media. Whoever. Right
[1:22:24] Speaker 1: but a lot of times it's LIKE i think The,
[1:22:26] Speaker 1: giants like we're Hiring Joe shane And Brian, daball two
[1:22:30] Speaker 1: guys from The bills like pretty normal. HIRES i remember
[1:22:34] Speaker 1: When Mark davis Hired ziegler And josh. McDaniels i'm, LIKE
[1:22:37] Speaker 1: i probably would have hired them. Too that forty nine ers.
[1:22:40] Speaker 1: Tried The colts, tried, like it's not that crazy of a.
[1:22:42] Speaker 1: Hire now it, failed and looking, back it's easy to
[1:22:45] Speaker 1: Go god they. Suck but at the TIME i was,
[1:22:47] Speaker 1: like IF i Was Mark, DAVIS i would have hired him.
[1:22:51] Speaker 1: Too what's going on With lafleur's play? Calling running an
[1:22:56] Speaker 1: end around on third and five that loses two, yards
[1:22:58] Speaker 1: then Asking Jordan love to convert a fourth and. Sixth
[1:23:01] Speaker 1: that's just bad situational. Football if you're gonna Have love
[1:23:04] Speaker 1: throw on fourth and, long you might as well trust
[1:23:07] Speaker 1: him to throw in third down instead of putting him
[1:23:10] Speaker 1: in a worse. Position this isn't On Jordan, love it's
[1:23:14] Speaker 1: on the play. Calling they might need to consider a.
[1:23:16] Speaker 1: CHANGE i think this goes back now two. Years they
[1:23:23] Speaker 1: have just been a slow starting. Offense most of last.
[1:23:27] Speaker 1: YEAR i remember talking about him a, lot and obviously
[1:23:29] Speaker 1: this year you look, up it's Like Jordan love is
[1:23:32] Speaker 1: seventy yards at halftime now on this individual game long.
[1:23:36] Speaker 1: Flight the flight was delayed weird. Travel but, MAN i
[1:23:42] Speaker 1: just one of my favorite bets of the week was
[1:23:44] Speaker 1: just hammering The packers and then of Course jacoby they're.
[1:23:47] Speaker 1: Leading it's, like what is going on? Here Thank god
[1:23:50] Speaker 1: For Micah, parsons WHO i THINK i read had ten,
[1:23:52] Speaker 1: pressures obviously had a bunch of, sacks but something just.
[1:23:57] Speaker 1: Off THERE'S i would say this The packer and The,
[1:24:00] Speaker 1: broncos it's just not really, clicking like the play calling
[1:24:05] Speaker 1: with their head coach who's both highly thought, of Like
[1:24:08] Speaker 1: lafour has a long track, record now Obviously sean's is really,
[1:24:11] Speaker 1: long but you watch them play offense and both of,
[1:24:15] Speaker 1: them what are The packers now four and two because
[1:24:18] Speaker 1: they had to buy and The broncos are five and?
[1:24:21] Speaker 1: Two but when you watch them, play let's just bring
[1:24:26] Speaker 1: up The. PACKERS i, get, oh they have the. TIE
[1:24:34] Speaker 1: i don't, know somethings just trying to look at their
[1:24:38] Speaker 1: point differential kind of the. SAME i can't put my
[1:24:41] Speaker 1: finger on it BECAUSE i actually Think Jordan love like
[1:24:44] Speaker 1: you watch me make some really good. Throws you, KNOW
[1:24:47] Speaker 1: i Know jacobs was sick going into that. GAME i
[1:24:52] Speaker 1: don't have a great answer for. YOU i, mean you're
[1:24:53] Speaker 1: you're looking at a guy that has a bet on
[1:24:55] Speaker 1: them to make the Super. Bowl, OBVIOUSLY i have several
[1:24:58] Speaker 1: parlays with, them include to win the division not feeling
[1:25:02] Speaker 1: great about. It question for the, back Does colin ever
[1:25:06] Speaker 1: try to throttle in quotes you or get you to
[1:25:10] Speaker 1: stay away from certain topics or even quote manage the
[1:25:13] Speaker 1: language you. USE i would guess, not and then he
[1:25:16] Speaker 1: wants you to speak your. Mind but was just curious
[1:25:18] Speaker 1: how that. Worked we all answer to, somebody And i've always.
[1:25:21] Speaker 1: WONDERED i, Mean i've never been told to. ONE i
[1:25:27] Speaker 1: talk LIKE i, talk like you were in business together
[1:25:31] Speaker 1: in this, medium like my, LANGUAGE i speak LIKE i.
[1:25:35] Speaker 1: SPEAK i don't, know we'll, say but they have never
[1:25:38] Speaker 1: ever said, anything if, ANYTHING i try sometimes to throttle
[1:25:42] Speaker 1: back BECAUSE i, know like, Listen i'm very fortunate that
[1:25:47] Speaker 1: this medium in twenty twenty. Five moving, FORWARD i, mean
[1:25:50] Speaker 1: so many of you guys that twenty years ago would
[1:25:54] Speaker 1: have been big radio. Guys connect your phone to the,
[1:25:57] Speaker 1: car listen in the. Car, Well i've worked in. Radio
[1:26:00] Speaker 1: it's kid. Friendly so like WHEN i was ten years
[1:26:03] Speaker 1: old driving around with my, dad he could have on
[1:26:05] Speaker 1: sports talk and people weren't gonna, swear AND i know
[1:26:08] Speaker 1: a lot of you guys drive around pick up your
[1:26:09] Speaker 1: kids and If i'm on in the background just swearing
[1:26:12] Speaker 1: left and, RIGHT i. DO i think of that more
[1:26:15] Speaker 1: than no one's ever told me anything on. That and
[1:26:18] Speaker 1: when it comes to, topics there's nothing that we've ever
[1:26:22] Speaker 1: talked about that was off. Limits, again it's most of
[1:26:26] Speaker 1: the stuff we're talking about is football. Related and, listen
[1:26:29] Speaker 1: he's friends with people THAT i PROBABLY i, guess, quote, trash,
[1:26:37] Speaker 1: criticize don't think highly. Of AND i would say it
[1:26:40] Speaker 1: probably be the same thing that he's critical of people
[1:26:43] Speaker 1: that are my. FRIENDS i mean the job we're. In so,
[1:26:46] Speaker 1: Yeah i've never been told anything by anyone when it
[1:26:51] Speaker 1: comes to topics or my language beside, myself AND i.
[1:26:55] Speaker 1: Do WHEN i first started this, PODCAST i THINK i
[1:26:59] Speaker 1: swore probably way too, much AND i was PROBABLY i
[1:27:06] Speaker 1: don't know the reason behind, it maybe because you could
[1:27:10] Speaker 1: and maybe that's just WHEN i came from radio and
[1:27:13] Speaker 1: you could just say whatever you. Wanted and then the
[1:27:15] Speaker 1: More i've done this and a lot of you guys have, said, hey,
[1:27:17] Speaker 1: LISTEN i love bu BUT i drive around with my
[1:27:21] Speaker 1: ten year old in the. CARTS i tried to be
[1:27:23] Speaker 1: cognizant of that and be careful of just how many
[1:27:27] Speaker 1: f moms not at the same. Time like you, know
[1:27:29] Speaker 1: if you don't think your kids swearing in elementary, school
[1:27:31] Speaker 1: you got another thing. Coming but, listen we don't want
[1:27:34] Speaker 1: to teach bad habits here trying to be, uh we're
[1:27:37] Speaker 1: trying to be positive influences on. Society so appreciate the
[1:27:41] Speaker 1: question and we'll just we'll throttle forward and. LISTEN i
[1:27:44] Speaker 1: Appreciate i've been very fortunate to be with an operation
[1:27:48] Speaker 1: that does not care at all as long as you're
[1:27:50] Speaker 1: having success generating, views, listens and. Revenue double thumbs. Up
[1:27:56] Speaker 1: let it rip baby the volume

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