# 209 - DESPISED ICON: The Real History of Deathcore

An episode of [Garza Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1551076579), 1 Dec 2025, 1 h 31 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/APO4245019833.mp3

Garza sits down in-person with Alex Erian & Eric Jarrin from Canadian deathcore band DESPISED ICON. New album “SHADOW WORK” out now! https://despisedicon.com Get Garza’s Guitar Tone on Patreon! https://patreon.com/garzapodcast 00:00 - Despised Icon’s Lineup 03:50 - Rebuilding & Journey to Shadow Work 09:07 - Over My Dead Body ft. Matt/Kublai Khan TX 12:09 - Personal Growth Through the Years 14:15 - How Despised Icon Started 23:20 - Alex’s Early Days Playing Drums 26:06 - How Eric Learned to Play Guitar 32:44 - Finding Alex “Grind” Pelletier 35:38 - The Healing Process 40:05 - Origins of Deathcore 55:15 - Suicide Silence, Animosity & Dillinger Escape Plan 59:15 - Controlling Emotions, Anxiety & Relationships 1:04:14 - Maintaining Career 1:07:09 - Getting Out of Canada 1:10:47 - Malamor 1:12:42 - Antagony 1:16:19 - Despised Icon Breakup & Obey The Brave 1:18:47 - Last Tour with Mitch Lucker 1:20:00 - Bonding & Perseverance 1:27:00 - Gold Foil Merch

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