# 189 - PROFANATICA | Paul Ledney: Black Metal, Religion, GG Allin & Afterlife

An episode of [Garza Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1551076579), 14 Jul 2025, 1 h 46 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/APO3674923694.mp3

Garza sits down in-person with Paul Ledney. Drummer & vocalist of black metal band PROFANATICA. Catch them on tour NOW! https://instagram.com/profanaticaofficial SPONSORS: Sweetwater - https://imp.i114863.net/rnrmVB DistroKid - https://distrokid.com/vip/garza 30% OFF! CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Drumming at 56 01:32 - Breathing Device 05:20 - Birth of Metal 10:05 - Chuck Berry 13:20 - Black Metal, Religion & Cults 27:04 - Aleister Crowley 30:22 - European Black Metal History 35:54 - Debut Album Destroyed 40:26 - First US Black Metal Band 45:50 - Church Burning // Marketing 47:21 - Raw Talent vs Laptops 49:48 - Posers 55:29 - Researching Metal History 58:03 - Drummers Lacking Style 1:02:54 - No Music in the Car // Getting Ideas 1:06:20 - Fake Happiness 1:08:24 - Meeting John McEntee 1:10:46 - Recording Quality 1:13:25 - Playing Every Day 1:16:10 - Being Abrasive 1:21:37 - Album Artwork 1:23:53 - Wife Being Supportive 1:25:34 - Mom Being Supportive 1:26:06 - Working w/ GG Allin 1:36:46 - Bad Luck & Not Quitting 1:38:48 - Afterlife Beliefs 1:42:25 - First Musical Instrument? 1:43:15 - Dave Lombardo // Slayer 1:44:22 - Closing Thoughts

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