# 207 - ENTHEOS: Balancing Marriage, Metal & Believing in Yourself

An episode of [Garza Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1551076579), 17 Nov 2025, 1 h 34 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/APO9704495196.mp3

Garza sits down in-person with Chaney Crabb & Navene Koperweis of alternative metal band ENTHEOS. Catch them on tour now! https://instagram.com/entheosofficial 00:00 - Des Moines, IA 06:40 - Balancing Marriage & Entheos 13:57 - Figuring Out Entheos as a Two-Piece 19:54 - Chaney’s Influences // Des Moines Scene 25:10 - Navene’s Early Musical Influences 27:18 - UB40 & No Doubt 29:15 - The “Pingy” Snare 33:35 - Early Shows, Animosity & Hoods 37:22 - Gold Foil Shirts 41:22 - Growing Up In Bay Area 45:35 - Fusing Death Metal, Hardcore & Deathcore Origins 48:00 - Job for a Cowboy 50:27 - Leveraging the Internet 58:13 - Djent, Modern vs Raw Production 1:02:50 - Evolving 1:08:47 - Embracing Yourself as an Artist 1:10:50 - I Am the Void 1:14:10 - Staying Creative 1:15:23 - Finally Finding Their Sound 1:16:44 - Navene Being a Metal OG 1:21:45 - Perseverance & Success 1:24:54 - Children, Career, Life & Death

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