# 196 - GENE HOGLAN: The Human Drum Machine Behind Death, Dark Angel & More

An episode of [Garza Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1551076579), 1 Sep 2025, 2 h 46 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/APO9738094651.mp3

Garza sits down in-person with Gene Hoglan. Drummer & songwriter for Dark Angel. Also best known as the former drummer of Death, Testament, Fear Factory & many more. New Dark Angel album OUT SEPTEMBER 5th! https://instagram.com/therealgenehoglan SPONSORS: Sweetwater - https://imp.i114863.net/rnrmVB DistroKid - https://distrokid.com/vip/garza 30% OFF! 00:00 - Moving From Texas to California 04:29 - LA Thrash Metal Scene 07:47 - Learning Drums & Visualization 15:47 - Good Drummers 19:19 - First Time Playing Drums 21:22 - Peter Criss // Charlie Watts 24:42 - Joining the 1st “Dark Angel” 27:06 - Tom Araya 30:51 - High School Days w/ Metallica 36:51 - LA Metal Scene 38:42 - Joining Dark Angel 41:28 - First Tour w/ Slayer 45:28 - Mental Clarity & Focus 51:49 - Leaving Dark Angel & Joining Death 53:51 - Writing Lyrics & Music 58:42 - Individual Thought Patterns 1:05:58 - Sean Reinert 1:09:38 - Chuck Schuldiner 1:11:27 - Innovative Drumming 1:15:16 - Death: Symbolic Writing Process 1:20:06 - Drinking/Smoking Back in the Day 1:21:57 - Recording Symbolic 1:23:40 - Back Injury 1:26:42 - Impact of Death & Chuck Schuldiner 1:30:30 - Being True to Yourself & Taking Risks 1:36:20 - Extinction Level Event 1:45:12 - Believing Your Vision 1:47:02 - Music Business // Contract s1:54:22 - Life is Peachy, Korn & Ross Robinson 2:01:07 - Leaving Death 2:04:58 - Devin Townsend 2:07:07 - Grunge & Music Trend Cycles 2:15:22 - Favorite Thrash Bands 2:19:37 - Gene’s Contribution on Slayer Album 2:21:51 - Fear Factory 2:26:20 - Advice for Drummers 2:35:24 - Double Strokes 2:39:51 - Death to All/Dark Angel Tours & New Album

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