# 227 - ATREYU: Metalcore Riffs, Sushi Guitar Rundown & 10 Year Rule for Creativity

An episode of [Garza Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1551076579), 6 Apr 2026, 2 h 11 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/APO6279480674.mp3

Garza sits down in-person with Brandon Saller & Dan Jacobs from metalcore band ATREYU. New Album “The End is Not the End” out April 24th! https://instagram.com/atreyuofficial SPONSORS: DistroKid - https://distrokid.com 00:00 Intro 06:55 Bands Hanging Out 11:11 First Time Smoking Weed 14:56 Sevendust 18:12 The End is Not the End 19:57 Writing Music in Tokyo 22:40 How Atreyu Writes New Songs 27:32 Writing “Death” & “Ego Death” 28:47 Brandon’s Hand Injury 35:15 Songwriting Career 37:53 The Time is Now 44:57 Dan’s Kiesel Guitar 57:07 2000s Metalcore 1:03:39 Riff: Lip Gloss and Black 1:09:07 Early Demos 1:17:41 How to Record Ideas 1:20:24 Early Jobs & Being Entrepreneurial 1:29:18 Self-Managing a Band 1:38:16 Pluginz 1:39:35 The 10 Year Rule for Creativity 1:44:38 Becoming a Frontman 1:50:04 Relationship with Alex Varkatzas 1:53:37 Married Life & Family 1:58:32 Which Bands Shaped Metalcore 2:04:37 3 Albums To Check Out 2:07:40 The End is Not the End Out April 24th

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