# Are you sitting down DLs?

An episode of [We Don't Have Time For This](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1544178687), 29 Jun 2026, 42 min.

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First up, some glamorous life admin because it's time to worm your kids. Tick that shit off and move on with your day. Then Revz is on a fake tan journey and we'll check back in a few weeks to see how that's... developing. But that's not even the headline. DLs, we need you seated for this one because a bomb has dropped in Revz's life and honestly, we're still processing. Bestie is activated, feelings are high, and as always, chaos has entered the chat. Keeping it spicy since day dot. Not Spon: G: Nicole Fendel Locket R: Claude - Know Thyself 2026 LIVE SHOW TICKETS and MERCH Subscribe to MORE TIME For This: Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Spotify Submit your OTDL Submit your Bestie Hotline Check out our Amazon Storefront Sign Up To Bestie Bulletin Join our Facebook Group Listen to our cool little sister podcast: The Fifth Trimester on Spotify The Fifth Trimester on Apple See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: We would like to acknowledge the traditional custards of the
[0:03] Speaker 1: land that this podcast is recorded on.
[0:05] Speaker 2: It's that time, DLS. This is not an ad. This
[0:08] Speaker 2: is your bestie to bestie reminder. Worm your feral, disgusting,
[0:14] Speaker 2: disease ridden children, worm them. Okay, worm every term, DLS.
[0:18] Speaker 2: That's what we say around here. Let's do nits and
[0:20] Speaker 2: worm every term. Okay, DLS. Do you know what's a
[0:22] Speaker 2: weird conversation that we had right before we hit record
[0:25] Speaker 2: is we're trying to pre plan our sickness.
[0:28] Speaker 1: Before we go on tour.
[0:29] Speaker 2: Like I was starting to feel a little like I've
[0:31] Speaker 2: had a warm, persisting headache, and then I ask Katie
[0:34] Speaker 2: and Revs to check do I feel warm? Because I
[0:37] Speaker 2: feel really hot in here. I'm just in a level
[0:39] Speaker 2: of discomfort physically. And then the girl suggested, all, maybe
[0:42] Speaker 2: you're going down, and then we actually go well, if
[0:45] Speaker 2: there's ever a time to go down, it's now, because
[0:47] Speaker 2: it can't be during rehearsals and ex sture as hell.
[0:49] Speaker 1: Cannot be during tour.
[0:50] Speaker 2: Don't you think that though? Sometimes you're like, you know what,
[0:52] Speaker 2: this would be a great week to get sick.
[0:54] Speaker 1: Let's do it now. Yeah, come on, bring it on.
[0:56] Speaker 1: Let's do it now because I don't have time next
[0:58] Speaker 1: week or the week after. So if we could get sick,
[1:00] Speaker 1: let's just get it out of the way.
[1:01] Speaker 2: Which doesn't even work that way though it really does.
[1:04] Speaker 2: You can get sick and then still get sick in
[1:05] Speaker 2: two weeks time. You're like, whatever, that's what's going to happen, is.
[1:08] Speaker 1: Going to happen.
[1:08] Speaker 2: But do you know what I'm stoked about is the
[1:10] Speaker 2: flu nasal spray?
[1:12] Speaker 1: Yes, very excited for vaccine. Ah, is it landed? Is
[1:15] Speaker 1: it happening? Can you get it? It's happening.
[1:17] Speaker 2: It's four kids though, so I'm trying to figure out
[1:20] Speaker 2: is it weird as an adult?
[1:21] Speaker 1: Is it the right going? And oh I didn't think
[1:24] Speaker 1: of it. It won't be the right dose. Sorry, honey,
[1:26] Speaker 1: it is weird. The nasal spray is for the kid.
[1:29] Speaker 1: You're like, double triple the size of a child? Can
[1:31] Speaker 1: they not just triple the spray?
[1:33] Speaker 2: Not take it?
[1:34] Speaker 1: Why don't you go ask? I might? It just feels
[1:35] Speaker 1: like something that people aren't going to roll with. Dice on.
[1:38] Speaker 2: I might chatjoobyt it before I embarrass myself walking into
[1:41] Speaker 2: a pharmacy.
[1:42] Speaker 1: I endorsed that Okay, should we start the episode.
[1:45] Speaker 2: Yes, let's We have a thousand things to do, but
[1:49] Speaker 2: we'd rather chat, do you with.
[1:53] Speaker 1: Emails and meetings and husbands and kids. We don't have
[1:57] Speaker 1: time for this. Just what you need to basic bitches
[2:02] Speaker 1: with the podcast.
[2:05] Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to We don't have time for this.
[2:08] Speaker 2: I'm your host, Jemmy Prinita aka Jemma Peanut on the
[2:11] Speaker 2: Gram along with my co host Kate Reeves. Guys, ReBs
[2:15] Speaker 2: has been on a germ, on a journey, Okay, she
[2:17] Speaker 2: needs to talk about it. To talk about it, I
[2:19] Speaker 2: don't know where I'm going to land. And permission to
[2:22] Speaker 2: completely backflip and change my mind.
[2:24] Speaker 1: Permission denied.
[2:25] Speaker 2: We expect you to stand by your word and every
[2:28] Speaker 2: last thing you say from now until forevermore go on.
[2:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, can you not evolve? No? I can evolve. And
[2:35] Speaker 1: I'm just I find this journey interesting. I'm trying something
[2:38] Speaker 1: on now, I'm not trying something on. Is the truth?
[2:41] Speaker 1: I am seeing how long I can go without fake
[2:43] Speaker 1: tanning and talk us through the discomfort that you're feeling.
[2:46] Speaker 1: It's a journey, Okay.
[2:48] Speaker 2: Can you take us back to the beginning of this
[2:50] Speaker 2: journey and why you made this decision.
[2:53] Speaker 1: How you arrived? Well, I have been thinking about it
[2:55] Speaker 1: for years, ever since.
[2:56] Speaker 2: A friend of mine and she's generation below us, she's
[2:59] Speaker 2: gen zis Lucy Neville, friend of the pod. She gave
[3:02] Speaker 2: up Fake Town a couple of years ago on her
[3:04] Speaker 2: like self acceptance Body positivity journey. She was like, it's
[3:08] Speaker 2: just for me. It's in the same category, and I'm
[3:09] Speaker 2: gonna let it go. And I was like, I don't know,
[3:13] Speaker 2: you know, because millennial, like how many times are we
[3:15] Speaker 2: trying things on growing up? And we're like, this will
[3:17] Speaker 2: look great with a tan, It'll be fine when I'm tan,
[3:20] Speaker 2: you know. It was like this whole thing of like,
[3:22] Speaker 2: you're not fully acceptable until you've got your skin color on,
[3:25] Speaker 2: and it's just like, I don't know. For me, it's outdating.
[3:28] Speaker 2: I'm growing out of it. Also, I really resent the
[3:31] Speaker 2: admin oh so much. I'd really resent it, but I've
[3:34] Speaker 2: started to realize, oh, I'm factoring in hours of my
[3:38] Speaker 2: time to like marinate and prep for these like fortioth.
[3:42] Speaker 2: I think it's all peaked because of fortieth right, that
[3:44] Speaker 2: makes sense now obviously as well. I don't get a
[3:46] Speaker 2: natural town anymore because I'm some safe and I'm responsible,
[3:49] Speaker 2: so I'm not doing that anyway.
[3:50] Speaker 1: Whatever. And also, like you've.
[3:52] Speaker 2: Shared before that you have your dad's skin. Yeah, he's
[3:55] Speaker 2: had a lot of skin cancer. I've had out of
[3:56] Speaker 2: his skins ery preservation. Now I've had a bunch of Yeah,
[4:00] Speaker 2: And I think it's actually, frankly, very smart and sun
[4:03] Speaker 2: safe and sensible.
[4:04] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[4:04] Speaker 2: Or I could just accept this is my skin color,
[4:07] Speaker 2: own the skin. You're gonna own the skin I'm in,
[4:09] Speaker 2: And it feels very allegorical for all my body stuff
[4:13] Speaker 2: I've journeyed with for years, and I'm just trying it on.
[4:15] Speaker 2: But I just don't know if I'm ready. Well, the
[4:19] Speaker 2: conversations have been really interesting, Dale's because there's chat around
[4:22] Speaker 2: like an express tan because Rev talks about the absolute
[4:26] Speaker 2: admin and I agree.
[4:27] Speaker 1: When we are on tour, we do tan before every show.
[4:31] Speaker 1: It makes us feel better.
[4:32] Speaker 2: And you are up on stage parading yourself in front
[4:35] Speaker 2: of hundreds of people. Stage lights suck the color out
[4:38] Speaker 2: of everything. So I'm already a pale bitch. Fine, happy
[4:41] Speaker 2: to be that's my skin color. But I go quite
[4:44] Speaker 2: pale under stage lights again, which is probably fine. Like,
[4:48] Speaker 2: I don't know, I just suddenly have a lens on
[4:50] Speaker 2: where I'm like, I don't know, it's starting to look
[4:52] Speaker 2: funny to me, like people who like put on a
[4:54] Speaker 2: lot of fake tan. I'm starting to be like, I
[4:56] Speaker 2: don't know if I'm into that anymore. Yeah, I mean,
[4:58] Speaker 2: I fuck you, do you boom whatever? But for me,
[5:01] Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not sure it's for me anymore. Anyway,
[5:03] Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm just earmarking it here, putting
[5:06] Speaker 2: it in the pod.
[5:06] Speaker 1: This is where I'm out. I'm going to see how
[5:08] Speaker 1: we go just being the freckly, pale little gal I am.
[5:11] Speaker 2: What I find really fascinating is that obviously this is
[5:15] Speaker 2: consuming your thoughts.
[5:16] Speaker 1: Yea, I hate it. And this is a really weird segue.
[5:21] Speaker 2: But with me, you know how I talked about being
[5:24] Speaker 2: shit at tennis at all of this negative self job,
[5:27] Speaker 2: just stay with me.
[5:29] Speaker 1: I was explaining this to my mum about how I've suck.
[5:32] Speaker 2: At tennis and I feel really self conscious and I
[5:34] Speaker 2: feel like I'm letting everyone down. And my mom said
[5:36] Speaker 2: to me, jem, when people are playing tennis, they're only
[5:40] Speaker 2: worried about their game. Yes, they're worried about how they
[5:43] Speaker 2: hit the ball over the net or whether they hit
[5:45] Speaker 2: the ball out or in, or messed up a stroke
[5:47] Speaker 2: or whatever.
[5:48] Speaker 1: They are not paying attention to you.
[5:49] Speaker 2: They're certainly not keeping tabs on how many times you've
[5:52] Speaker 2: hit a ball into the net or out, particularly in
[5:55] Speaker 2: a tennis clinic lesson situation. And it's so funny to
[5:58] Speaker 2: hear you talk about all this tanning stuff and hand
[6:01] Speaker 2: on heart, me and producer.
[6:03] Speaker 1: Kate have never noticed.
[6:05] Speaker 2: It is like the day that you had your stennies
[6:08] Speaker 2: taken out and your one day and you were going
[6:10] Speaker 2: to raw dog ernatural hair and you came into the
[6:14] Speaker 2: office and your natural hair had had enormous growth under
[6:17] Speaker 2: those steennies and you came in and we didn't notice.
[6:20] Speaker 1: Producer Kate and I were like, oh, yeah, stennies are out,
[6:24] Speaker 1: and you're like, and my hair's all right right, And
[6:26] Speaker 1: we were.
[6:26] Speaker 2: Like yeah, like yeah, all these things we do really
[6:30] Speaker 2: it's only for us.
[6:31] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[6:31] Speaker 2: And it's the same with when we were swimmers at
[6:34] Speaker 2: the beach in summer and we're so like, no one
[6:38] Speaker 2: is caring. In fact, everyone's just self conscious about themselves.
[6:41] Speaker 1: And I don't we want to be in a world
[6:42] Speaker 1: where actually just no one even thinks about it. Wouldn't
[6:44] Speaker 1: that be the dream. That's the world I want to
[6:46] Speaker 1: live in, where I just get up and do my day. Yes.
[6:48] Speaker 2: So I'm looking at you wearing this red hole to
[6:51] Speaker 2: neck top. You've got your chest and your arms bare.
[6:55] Speaker 2: And this morning, the first thing I said to you
[6:57] Speaker 2: was your makeup looks so pretty today.
[7:00] Speaker 1: And I didn't for a second go atle bit, she's
[7:04] Speaker 1: got to turn on.
[7:05] Speaker 2: It didn't even register. In fact, I thought your outfit
[7:07] Speaker 2: was cute. Your lipstick kind of compliments it. Even like
[7:11] Speaker 2: over the last three years working with Sally, my hairdresser,
[7:14] Speaker 2: like I've gone less blonde, Like I'm more broonde now
[7:17] Speaker 2: for the same reasons.
[7:18] Speaker 1: I'm like, that's my natural color.
[7:20] Speaker 2: I want to get a bit closer to that because
[7:21] Speaker 2: it suits me because it's what I was born with,
[7:24] Speaker 2: and I feel like I'm just trying this out with
[7:26] Speaker 2: my skin. Well, what I find really interesting about your
[7:28] Speaker 2: outfit of choice today is I actually think it really compliments.
[7:33] Speaker 1: The blue bass of my bail skin. Correct the blue bay.
[7:36] Speaker 2: I'm not going to say blue bass, but that's fine
[7:39] Speaker 2: or yellow bas great, but it compliments the skin you're in. Yes,
[7:43] Speaker 2: so you're actually learning to dress for your skin tone
[7:46] Speaker 2: rather than this tanned version of you. Anyway, it's a journey.
[7:49] Speaker 2: I'm not judging anyone else who turns. My god, we
[7:52] Speaker 2: all do our shit. Yeah, like everyone I know tans.
[7:57] Speaker 2: You know, I'm just trying it out, and I'm going
[8:00] Speaker 2: to bring you guys with me. Okay, let's hold hands
[8:01] Speaker 2: and see how this goes. So I went to Becky,
[8:04] Speaker 2: our good friend's fortieth in like a little dress, and
[8:06] Speaker 2: normally I'd be like, well, you got to have a
[8:08] Speaker 2: turn on for this dress, but I was like, you
[8:10] Speaker 2: know what, I'm going to see how I go.
[8:12] Speaker 1: I was confronted by the amount of thoughts that consume
[8:14] Speaker 1: me and how I thought about it, and.
[8:16] Speaker 2: That annoyed me, and I'm like, you know what, it's
[8:18] Speaker 2: worth pushing through this because this is silly. I should
[8:20] Speaker 2: not be having real estate in my brain taken up with.
[8:22] Speaker 1: This with my actual skin color.
[8:25] Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm the mind blown emoji face right now
[8:28] Speaker 2: because I didn't even.
[8:29] Speaker 1: Cross my radar.
[8:31] Speaker 2: They didn't weren't tanned, I know, but you were uncharacteristically
[8:35] Speaker 2: untanned for a.
[8:37] Speaker 1: Fortieth I just thought that dress was so damn cute. Yeah,
[8:40] Speaker 1: so whatever, Okay, we can evolve.
[8:42] Speaker 2: It turns out we can. Would you go on tour
[8:45] Speaker 2: without tanning?
[8:46] Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder.
[8:47] Speaker 2: I feel like stage is a different world, different life.
[8:50] Speaker 1: But I wonder maybe I should challenge myself.
[8:52] Speaker 2: I mean, I might need to remind you that when
[8:55] Speaker 2: you got married, I know, I was alabaster, you were
[8:58] Speaker 2: alabaster white. Yeah, it was with orange hair, and you
[9:03] Speaker 2: looked stunning. Oh thanks, I mean stunning tan not. But
[9:06] Speaker 2: my point is, yeah, I just need to remove a
[9:09] Speaker 2: few things from the roster of beauty, Like application.
[9:14] Speaker 1: It's too much.
[9:15] Speaker 2: I don't want to spend my time and money on
[9:16] Speaker 2: it anymore. I'm getting a bit over it. I just
[9:18] Speaker 2: want to love the skin i'm in. I think it's
[9:19] Speaker 2: fair that tanning goes because that's knowing you, because we're
[9:23] Speaker 2: quite similar like this that admin even your ten minute
[9:26] Speaker 2: tan which REVS shared is a bit respond and it
[9:29] Speaker 2: is amazing and probably the thing that I'll be taking
[9:32] Speaker 2: on tour because I'm like, fuck, yeah, ten minutes, sign
[9:34] Speaker 2: me up.
[9:35] Speaker 1: But it's still the application.
[9:37] Speaker 2: It's still the scrubbing what do you call it, it's
[9:40] Speaker 2: foliation before like it's.
[9:42] Speaker 1: A whole thing, just like when I get the paws,
[9:45] Speaker 1: you know, like fucked up your hands. It's just embarrassing.
[9:48] Speaker 1: I'm forty year old woman. What am I doing with
[9:50] Speaker 1: a pretend orange skin color? A little white paws? Come on,
[9:53] Speaker 1: reps enough, you said it here first. I can't wait
[9:57] Speaker 1: for you backflip like this. Yeah.
[10:00] Speaker 2: I reserve the right to backflip if I just want
[10:02] Speaker 2: to feel sun kissed and fab.
[10:03] Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's fat anyway.
[10:05] Speaker 2: I think if you've been with us as a OGDL,
[10:07] Speaker 2: you know we contradict ourselves endlessly, and that's okay because
[10:11] Speaker 2: can we not evolve?
[10:12] Speaker 1: Can we not evolve? Anyway? Do you know what I
[10:14] Speaker 1: don't have time for? Take a deep breath, deals with me?
[10:17] Speaker 1: Sit down, Everyone sitting down.
[10:21] Speaker 2: Rev has got news. What don't you have time for?
[10:24] Speaker 2: But apparently you have so much time for bestie guys
[10:28] Speaker 2: in breaking, we don't have time for this news. Basically, guys.
[10:33] Speaker 2: As you know, I was dating very casually, and I
[10:36] Speaker 2: was on the apps and things and accidentally met someone
[10:40] Speaker 2: we're calling him the plot twist. Yeah, we accidentally met
[10:44] Speaker 2: each other. He was definitely not really looking to meet
[10:46] Speaker 2: someone because he was about to move overseas and I
[10:50] Speaker 2: was not really looking for someone. I was just answering
[10:52] Speaker 2: my matches and my DMS, and we got chatting. I'm
[10:56] Speaker 2: not going to give you the full weeds and old
[10:58] Speaker 2: story yet because it is fresh, Okay, this is a
[11:01] Speaker 2: new thing. And also considering you've shared previous relationships before,
[11:06] Speaker 2: and I think it's okay to keep a little for yourself, yeah,
[11:11] Speaker 2: or be a little bit guarded, especially in these early
[11:13] Speaker 2: fresh stages. That's your relationship.
[11:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, But the headline is we started chatting. We had
[11:20] Speaker 1: a FaceTime.
[11:21] Speaker 2: That FaceTime went for two hours, then another two hour
[11:23] Speaker 2: face time the next night, then another two hour FaceTime
[11:26] Speaker 2: the next night, and then he's like, can I please
[11:28] Speaker 2: take you on a date? And I was like, what's
[11:30] Speaker 2: the point. You're leaving the country and I'm not in
[11:33] Speaker 2: this space anyway, he convinced me, he was quite persistent,
[11:36] Speaker 2: and he convinced me to go on a first date.
[11:38] Speaker 2: Our first date lasted twenty four hours. Twenty four hours, dear,
[11:41] Speaker 2: I was just a long date, and then we really Yeah.
[11:47] Speaker 1: She's rendered speechless. She can't even find the word. The
[11:51] Speaker 1: crib notes are.
[11:51] Speaker 2: We've fallen really hard for each other, and even though
[11:54] Speaker 2: it's wildly inconvenient, he has left the country York, He's
[11:59] Speaker 2: moved to New York, which was his plan for a
[12:01] Speaker 2: very long time, and it took a lot, and he's
[12:03] Speaker 2: moved to New York and essentially week one we were like, well,
[12:07] Speaker 2: this is just going to be for fun because obviously
[12:09] Speaker 2: it'll never work because you're moving countries. Week two we
[12:12] Speaker 2: were like, oh god, oh no, this is oh fuck.
[12:16] Speaker 1: What are we going to do?
[12:17] Speaker 2: Week three of dating, we were like, we can do
[12:19] Speaker 2: a long distance right.
[12:21] Speaker 1: Week four it's like, here we are, We're doing it now.
[12:24] Speaker 2: I like a parent when I met this man, new
[12:28] Speaker 2: man in Revs's life.
[12:30] Speaker 1: His name's Doron. We can say his name? Can we.
[12:33] Speaker 2: Like? He doesn't want an alias. He's like, come on,
[12:36] Speaker 2: just be real about it. If you're going to share it,
[12:37] Speaker 2: just fucking share it. Okay, great? Yes, So like a
[12:41] Speaker 2: parent when I met Doron, an overly protective parent, I
[12:44] Speaker 2: was like.
[12:44] Speaker 1: So, what's the plan here, guys? What are your intentions
[12:47] Speaker 1: with my bestie? Was the vibe? Literally, what is the plan?
[12:51] Speaker 2: The world's most awkward dinner which will go down and
[12:55] Speaker 2: crime of our relationship as one of the weirdest, most
[13:00] Speaker 2: good nights of our lives? Can I just say the
[13:04] Speaker 2: night made more awkward by you? I know I was
[13:07] Speaker 2: the most awkward.
[13:08] Speaker 1: Yes, you guys were fine. I was awkward. No, I
[13:10] Speaker 1: wasn't fine internally, Okay, that was clear. I was gonna say.
[13:15] Speaker 1: I mean you were fine, as in you acted fine.
[13:17] Speaker 1: I did, but internally I was like over protective dad.
[13:21] Speaker 1: It was weird. I was anyway.
[13:24] Speaker 2: So I was like, what's the plan here, guys, and
[13:26] Speaker 2: you guys said, quote after looking at.
[13:29] Speaker 1: Each other gitterly like school children, We're just going to
[13:32] Speaker 1: kick the can along the road, see what happens. And
[13:36] Speaker 1: I was like, good plan, Yeahlan, good plan, guys. Well,
[13:39] Speaker 1: here's the thing.
[13:40] Speaker 2: He's moving to New York with a real reason, and
[13:42] Speaker 2: it's taken a lot of time, a lot of effort
[13:44] Speaker 2: to get that going, and like I don't want him
[13:46] Speaker 2: not to do that, and he's not.
[13:47] Speaker 1: There was no world in which he wasn't going.
[13:49] Speaker 2: Okay, But like the long and short of it is,
[13:51] Speaker 2: deal's they can't quit each other. They don't have a
[13:54] Speaker 2: good enough reason to quit each other. And so instead
[13:57] Speaker 2: they're going to kick the can down the road and
[13:59] Speaker 2: then see what weapons and cross any.
[14:01] Speaker 1: Potential hurdles as they come along.
[14:03] Speaker 2: As they come along, there's no way I could say
[14:06] Speaker 2: goodbye to this person, and there's no way I could
[14:08] Speaker 2: date anybody else. I'm a bit like, oh my heart
[14:11] Speaker 2: is fucking captured. Jem's freaking out. She's so scared for me.
[14:17] Speaker 1: I am trying really hard to be supportive and get
[14:22] Speaker 1: on board. And you are you've gotten on board? No,
[14:25] Speaker 1: I have. I'm in chapter two, reds is in chapter
[14:27] Speaker 1: thirty two.
[14:28] Speaker 2: It's fine in her emotional relationship with this person, and
[14:31] Speaker 2: I feel like I've cracked chapter two.
[14:33] Speaker 1: Chapter one was hard.
[14:34] Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, wow, well, guys, there's one more
[14:37] Speaker 2: part to this, which is that he's thirty two. Yeah,
[14:40] Speaker 2: and I just want to paint a picture for DLS, like,
[14:43] Speaker 2: just imagine your bestie has gone on a journey this year. Okay,
[14:47] Speaker 2: DL's you've been on the journey with me. We went
[14:50] Speaker 2: from being single, which is great. I was like, fuck, yeah,
[14:53] Speaker 2: REVS needs to get back in her hoe glow era.
[14:56] Speaker 1: And boy did she as we know, but we went
[15:00] Speaker 1: I think I'm attracted to a woman. Oh yeah, that's right. Yes,
[15:03] Speaker 1: you've forgotten about that.
[15:05] Speaker 2: And hey, any couples want to open up to a
[15:08] Speaker 2: throup over two.
[15:10] Speaker 1: I'm dating three guys. I've got three boyfriends.
[15:13] Speaker 2: Do you remember last week we talked on the pot
[15:15] Speaker 2: about having a vulnerability hangover. No, I'm just do you
[15:18] Speaker 2: know what, I've got a vulnerability and I'm bringing the
[15:21] Speaker 2: deals on the whiplash journey.
[15:23] Speaker 1: That is the life of Kate ReBs and it's your
[15:25] Speaker 1: life and we hold space. Yes, thank you, and we
[15:28] Speaker 1: love you for it. We just got to catch up.
[15:30] Speaker 1: We just got to catch up.
[15:31] Speaker 2: This is what we're doing. We're just catching up. And
[15:32] Speaker 2: so I was like, okay, yes, she's in her Hoglow era.
[15:35] Speaker 2: She's high fiving herself in the window. You know, I'm
[15:37] Speaker 2: fucking proud of her. She's in her feminine energy and
[15:41] Speaker 2: in her power as a woman of forty.
[15:45] Speaker 1: And of course that's when I meet someone. And then
[15:47] Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's age m.
[15:50] Speaker 2: We just celebrated our one week anniversary and I'm like
[15:52] Speaker 2: huh And ten days in we're dropping l bombs and
[15:55] Speaker 2: I'm like, say what. And he's moving to New York
[15:58] Speaker 2: come again. Like there's just so much to take on.
[16:02] Speaker 2: And of course all that matters is he makes you happy. Yeah,
[16:06] Speaker 2: and that's all I fucking want for you. Ultimately, So
[16:09] Speaker 2: I've had to strip away my judgment and my opinions.
[16:13] Speaker 2: I'm not going to lie.
[16:13] Speaker 1: They were there for a bit while I was like,
[16:15] Speaker 1: this is a terrible idea. I still have moments where
[16:17] Speaker 1: I'm like, is this a terrible idea? Same girl, She's.
[16:20] Speaker 2: Doing it anyway, and that's okay. Yeah, I get it,
[16:23] Speaker 2: and a few things. One, I get it. I move
[16:26] Speaker 2: very fast. It is she always have, I always have.
[16:28] Speaker 1: It's just who I am, and I just want to
[16:30] Speaker 1: show up here as I am. Guys, you'll take me,
[16:33] Speaker 1: I know you will. And hey, if I get back
[16:35] Speaker 1: on this mic and go, hey, guys, remember that. Have
[16:38] Speaker 1: I got a story for you. We'll all hold hands
[16:40] Speaker 1: and we'll go through that together. Right.
[16:42] Speaker 2: Look, you keep life spicy and interesting, and as a
[16:45] Speaker 2: very vanilla, very married person, my life feels so boring.
[16:49] Speaker 2: And so I can just live vicariously through the adventures
[16:52] Speaker 2: of Red.
[16:52] Speaker 1: Let's take that.
[16:53] Speaker 2: It's just hard to park my protective best friend moment.
[16:57] Speaker 2: I know where you went through a breakup and you
[17:00] Speaker 2: were so deeply.
[17:01] Speaker 1: Sad for such a long time, and I'm just you know.
[17:04] Speaker 2: When the pieces don't look like they fit on paper.
[17:08] Speaker 2: This is a little bit of that totally, and so
[17:10] Speaker 2: I'm getting on board I'm getting on board.
[17:12] Speaker 1: No, I really am Deals. Maybe I'm in chapter three now.
[17:15] Speaker 2: The funny thing is his friends are exactly the same,
[17:17] Speaker 2: but just a completely different life stage.
[17:19] Speaker 1: So like they're all like, what are you doing?
[17:21] Speaker 2: What a forty year old mom back in Sydney when
[17:24] Speaker 2: you're moving to New York? Are you insane? So like,
[17:28] Speaker 2: when's Deron's bestie? I feel like I need to hang
[17:30] Speaker 2: out with them.
[17:31] Speaker 1: Look, I'm not going to name check anyone who hasn't
[17:32] Speaker 1: given me any permission to tell the Okay, well, I'm
[17:34] Speaker 1: gonna find out behind me.
[17:36] Speaker 2: Find out who the gem is on the other side,
[17:37] Speaker 2: we'll connect you to I feel like we need a
[17:40] Speaker 2: drink and I might start drinking for the first time.
[17:43] Speaker 2: We literally are both getting this from all our people.
[17:46] Speaker 2: Everyone's like, well, yeah, they're lovely, but what is the
[17:48] Speaker 2: point of this? And we're a bit like are we crazy? Yes,
[17:52] Speaker 2: we're crazy, but like there's no option, there's no I
[17:55] Speaker 2: feel like guys can't quit each other.
[17:57] Speaker 1: It's as simple as that.
[17:58] Speaker 2: And I don't want to locked in. Yeah, I also had.
[18:02] Speaker 1: To do that thing. This is therapy for me. Deals,
[18:05] Speaker 1: We're here to held jam through Revs's new relationship.
[18:08] Speaker 2: How absurd and self set, like I'm literally making her
[18:12] Speaker 2: relationship about me, which is so cooked.
[18:14] Speaker 1: But it's been a fucking journey.
[18:16] Speaker 2: Knowing this relationship is for everybody all over deal like
[18:20] Speaker 2: every fucking thing I do, when you do, we share
[18:22] Speaker 2: it at all? Well, no, this is the challenge, right
[18:25] Speaker 2: like when you have a radically honest relationship, which you
[18:27] Speaker 2: and I do. You know, I was very honest about
[18:31] Speaker 2: this relationship, not your relationship, this particular relationship, because I
[18:34] Speaker 2: could have dreamt up so many prince charmings for you.
[18:38] Speaker 2: And the thirty two thing I don't think is a problem.
[18:41] Speaker 2: I don't feel it when we're together, and you didn't either, right,
[18:43] Speaker 2: you weren't like well like that. Just I know so
[18:46] Speaker 2: many people have dated beyond a decade, you know, either.
[18:50] Speaker 1: Way, in either direction, it's not a big deal.
[18:52] Speaker 2: It's a few other things, okay, But my biggest fear
[18:56] Speaker 2: was the harder I push on my opinion.
[19:00] Speaker 1: The more you would pull away.
[19:01] Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, the more guarded and rightfully yeah yeah, like
[19:05] Speaker 2: when your best friend's not like this receptacle of like
[19:08] Speaker 2: yollo with you, you know, it's hard to share. So
[19:11] Speaker 2: I thought about it, and I was like it's so weird.
[19:14] Speaker 2: But it's like I'm imagining when Raff is dating someone
[19:17] Speaker 2: that I'm like, I'm sure of immediately infantalized Bell.
[19:21] Speaker 1: I don't are a fucking grown ass woman. But I
[19:24] Speaker 1: love you so much.
[19:26] Speaker 2: You know, and exactly this is fuck because I am
[19:29] Speaker 2: infantalizing you and it's not okay. And I have chats
[19:31] Speaker 2: with myself around like gem none of your business, stay out.
[19:33] Speaker 2: But I guess the point that I'm trying to make
[19:36] Speaker 2: is that I'm leaning in because it's better for both
[19:39] Speaker 2: of us, for you to feel supported, to be able
[19:41] Speaker 2: to talk about your relationship without my silly opinions.
[19:44] Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate. And so that's where I've landed. I'm
[19:46] Speaker 1: just going to accept that and not add to it.
[19:48] Speaker 1: Good look, No, it's what do I know? You know?
[19:53] Speaker 1: None of us know.
[19:54] Speaker 2: I think everyone will relate to this when you get
[19:56] Speaker 2: into something new, a relationship, a job, you buy a house,
[20:00] Speaker 2: Like when I bought the cottage, I needed to know
[20:02] Speaker 2: what you thought, and I was so on board. I
[20:05] Speaker 2: know I was one of the few people like your
[20:08] Speaker 2: opinion matters to me because.
[20:10] Speaker 1: You're my person.
[20:11] Speaker 2: I know the responsibility of that feels enormous, and then
[20:15] Speaker 2: suddenly I didn't want it to be a me versus
[20:17] Speaker 2: hymn situation because ultimately, your romantic relationship with someone has
[20:22] Speaker 2: nothing to do with me.
[20:23] Speaker 1: It doesn't just.
[20:24] Speaker 2: Validate your experience for a second. The whole scenario is crazy.
[20:28] Speaker 2: Like we literally met three and a half weeks before
[20:30] Speaker 2: he left the country and it was very intense.
[20:32] Speaker 1: And yes, it's gone very fast.
[20:34] Speaker 2: Like I was like, no gas lighting, you over that,
[20:36] Speaker 2: Like it's an I've never experienced anything like this, Like
[20:40] Speaker 2: it's crazy.
[20:41] Speaker 1: I was like, she's been bewitch. What's happened? Love? Love?
[20:46] Speaker 1: I get it. I reached my love, I know, I know.
[20:50] Speaker 1: And you take yourself back, I get it.
[20:53] Speaker 2: I know.
[20:54] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fine. Who is it hurting? No, literally no one.
[20:59] Speaker 2: But as you happy, does it valid at you that
[21:02] Speaker 2: the besties on all sides are freaking out? Well, yeah,
[21:04] Speaker 2: because they're human and they live in the real world,
[21:07] Speaker 2: and the chats we have with each other are like.
[21:09] Speaker 1: Okay, everyone thinks we're crazy. As long as we are cool,
[21:12] Speaker 1: that's fine. Can it be fine? It'll all make sense.
[21:16] Speaker 1: The only way a long run, the only way I
[21:18] Speaker 1: can describe you to it.
[21:19] Speaker 2: It's like you've both jumped off the cliff together, and
[21:21] Speaker 2: you're like, we'll build a parachute on the way on
[21:24] Speaker 2: the way down and we'll figure it out, and so
[21:26] Speaker 2: be it. Yeah, we're here now, and I'm just standing
[21:29] Speaker 2: at the top wondering when do I radio the team
[21:32] Speaker 2: to open the net to catch her.
[21:35] Speaker 1: No, I'm kidding, that's a joke, you know what I mean.
[21:37] Speaker 1: I know what you mean.
[21:38] Speaker 2: Well, I guess I am someone who has a very
[21:42] Speaker 2: I love big right, and I don't know. It's my
[21:44] Speaker 2: favorite thing and I do you headfirst into things, not
[21:47] Speaker 2: just relationships. This is how I move through the world,
[21:49] Speaker 2: is how I move through life, and it is something
[21:51] Speaker 2: I quite like about myself good and I think it
[21:54] Speaker 2: is scary, and of course it opens me up to
[21:56] Speaker 2: pain and heartbreak, but it also opens me up to
[22:00] Speaker 2: something really huge.
[22:01] Speaker 1: Yeah for the positive.
[22:02] Speaker 2: And I'm really grateful that I have that kind of
[22:05] Speaker 2: heart because you know, it was one that long ago
[22:07] Speaker 2: I was on this podcast post breakup, Starting again again,
[22:11] Speaker 2: when I said, like, I have always seen myself having
[22:14] Speaker 2: a great love and having an enduring love and building
[22:19] Speaker 2: something with someone, and I was starting to confront the
[22:22] Speaker 2: idea that that may not happen for me, and that might.
[22:25] Speaker 1: Still be the case. I love her well, I know myself.
[22:28] Speaker 2: Just sorry, what no, because I in your dark hours
[22:33] Speaker 2: and you became like a hardened crab.
[22:35] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the cancer crab was calcifying.
[22:37] Speaker 2: I was seriously calcifying, and you our friends were like, fuck,
[22:42] Speaker 2: like Reps really hates men.
[22:44] Speaker 1: Really. I was always she'll love again, yeah, because you
[22:48] Speaker 1: know me, I knew.
[22:49] Speaker 2: I was like, Rep's love's love. Yeah, and she thrives
[22:52] Speaker 2: in a relationship. She's got so much love to pour
[22:55] Speaker 2: into someone. Yeah, if someone's willing to.
[22:57] Speaker 1: Pour into her. I didn't for a second.
[22:59] Speaker 2: Think you would sing for more than six months.
[23:01] Speaker 1: Oh oh that's wild.
[23:03] Speaker 2: I've said that to someone and they can back me
[23:05] Speaker 2: up on that.
[23:06] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[23:06] Speaker 2: I was like, no, sure, it's Revs. And they're like, nah,
[23:09] Speaker 2: she's gone real skeppy on men. And I'm like, it's
[23:12] Speaker 2: not gonna last because you are soft and gooey on
[23:14] Speaker 2: the inside. Is often the case with people with a
[23:16] Speaker 2: hardened shell. Yeah, well, I'm a much cancer as in
[23:19] Speaker 2: the star like and Jem said to me a few
[23:22] Speaker 2: weeks ago, she goes, oh, I just feel like your
[23:24] Speaker 2: shell has blown off in the wind.
[23:26] Speaker 1: And you're just like, ah, here's my crab meat.
[23:29] Speaker 2: Ready to be exposed, and the goals are swooping, girls
[23:33] Speaker 2: are swooping.
[23:34] Speaker 1: And it's true, but he's like that too, and I
[23:38] Speaker 1: feel good, Like my nervous system is very calm. It
[23:42] Speaker 1: feels very it is now. It wasn't yeah freaking out.
[23:47] Speaker 1: I was like, what have I done?
[23:48] Speaker 2: I've god had fallen in love with someone who's seriously
[23:51] Speaker 2: literally been in my life for three weeks. And he's
[23:53] Speaker 2: going to leave, and he's young, and he's going to
[23:55] Speaker 2: be in New York City and I'm just this old
[23:57] Speaker 2: mom the fucking Northern Beaches old cottage moving into a
[24:03] Speaker 2: krone face and he's like a new guy in the city,
[24:06] Speaker 2: Like how is it?
[24:06] Speaker 1: Like this could really break my heart? And this is
[24:09] Speaker 1: the one. Let's pretend I'm all knowing for a second.
[24:11] Speaker 2: Let's pretend that's because I was all knowing that you
[24:14] Speaker 2: would one hundred percent experience love again.
[24:16] Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wish I'd had that bind you because
[24:19] Speaker 1: you're a lover of revsuwere your heart on your sleeve.
[24:22] Speaker 1: It's the best thing about you.
[24:23] Speaker 2: And I'm so glad to hear you say you're proud of
[24:25] Speaker 2: that that you are someone who can love big and hard.
[24:27] Speaker 1: But this is the funny thing as well, Like when
[24:30] Speaker 1: you were like.
[24:30] Speaker 2: He's gonna break my heart, he's thirty two, when he's
[24:33] Speaker 2: going to New York on this great adventure while I'm
[24:35] Speaker 2: trapped in a cottage.
[24:37] Speaker 1: Not trapped.
[24:37] Speaker 2: You love my life, you love your but you know
[24:40] Speaker 2: you have responsibilities that he absolutely does not have. And
[24:43] Speaker 2: the whole time I'm in my head laughing, going lo
[24:47] Speaker 2: like he's doomed because he's never gonna find someone who
[24:53] Speaker 2: levels you. Tommy, No, but that's the like I'm like, oh,
[24:57] Speaker 2: it sucks to be him because he's had a taste
[24:59] Speaker 2: of and now he's fucked because let's say hypothetically, like
[25:03] Speaker 2: you break up, like you will be the bar oh woman.
[25:07] Speaker 2: And not for a second was I like, oh, yeah,
[25:09] Speaker 2: he's gonna break heart. No way, You're a fucking catch.
[25:12] Speaker 2: But I'm just nervous around the scenario.
[25:15] Speaker 1: Yes a lot.
[25:16] Speaker 2: It's not like he lives in Canberra and we can
[25:19] Speaker 2: get a quick flight.
[25:20] Speaker 1: We're not even on the same time zone.
[25:21] Speaker 2: Just haven't made it easy for your s. But we
[25:24] Speaker 2: didn't choose it to be fair, and I believe that
[25:27] Speaker 2: with love, and it can be fucking inconvenient, and you know,
[25:29] Speaker 2: they can say right guy, wrong time or whatever. But like,
[25:32] Speaker 2: I don't know, we're both very like we genuinely were
[25:36] Speaker 2: just looking for a bit of fun with each other
[25:38] Speaker 2: and we accidentally found something way deeper that was really obvious,
[25:43] Speaker 2: really really quickly. And what do you do when life
[25:46] Speaker 2: hands you those things? You just go, Okay, this is
[25:48] Speaker 2: what is being brought to me. I have an option.
[25:51] Speaker 2: I can protect myself and guard myself and hide myself
[25:54] Speaker 2: away and not experience this, or I can open myself up.
[25:57] Speaker 1: Yes, the seagulls are circling. Maybe, just maybe.
[26:02] Speaker 2: The seagulls will fly away and it'll be safe for
[26:05] Speaker 2: me and it'll been a good choice.
[26:07] Speaker 1: And I don't know.
[26:08] Speaker 2: I'm in that part of my life where I'm going
[26:10] Speaker 2: to believe that maybe that's the right choice, and I'm
[26:12] Speaker 2: going to follow that anyway, here we are. That's what
[26:14] Speaker 2: you've got to do, as we say, pull the threat
[26:17] Speaker 2: of curiosity. Yeah, unravel that jumper, get all warm and
[26:20] Speaker 2: cozy in it. Anyway, in a couple of days time,
[26:22] Speaker 2: I'm getting on a plane to New York. You guys,
[26:24] Speaker 2: so you literally came to me and you're like, I
[26:26] Speaker 2: need a laptop because I need to make my work mobile.
[26:29] Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, we can facilitate that for you.
[26:32] Speaker 2: You've never wanted a laptop in your life. Now I do,
[26:35] Speaker 2: and now you do. And I said, it's possible that
[26:37] Speaker 2: you want a laptop because you're secretly going to fly to.
[26:39] Speaker 1: New York in the school holidays. And she was like,
[26:41] Speaker 1: not secret, I'm like openly that's what I'm doing. No
[26:44] Speaker 1: part of you led with that.
[26:46] Speaker 2: I'll drop that in was sorry, not for a second,
[26:50] Speaker 2: and then you're like yes.
[26:53] Speaker 1: I was like it's okay. Yeah, she's by coastal. You
[26:57] Speaker 1: go do your work anyway. I've been calling jam lot
[27:00] Speaker 1: because you've done this before.
[27:01] Speaker 2: Well, this is the funny thing is, first of all,
[27:03] Speaker 2: the conversations started with so you did long distance with
[27:07] Speaker 2: hubs for a year, and I was like yeah, and
[27:10] Speaker 2: she's like how'd that go? And I was like, different scenario, babe, Yeah,
[27:13] Speaker 2: it's different, it's different. There was an end insight. Yeah,
[27:16] Speaker 2: we had a plan, yeah, beyond the year. I think
[27:19] Speaker 2: the challenge for you guys is there's a level of
[27:21] Speaker 2: potential indefiniteness. Yes, for sure, of this, yea, given the
[27:25] Speaker 2: opportunities that he might face over there, or he'll move back,
[27:30] Speaker 2: who knows all that.
[27:32] Speaker 1: So it's like it's all up in the air. All
[27:34] Speaker 1: I know for that stuff.
[27:35] Speaker 2: I know, but your brain goes there, right, of course
[27:38] Speaker 2: it does, is what my parenting brain does. Yeah, No,
[27:40] Speaker 2: of course it does. And yes, of course it's on
[27:42] Speaker 2: our minds every fucking day. And it's a spanner that
[27:46] Speaker 2: neither of us saw coming. But here we are in
[27:48] Speaker 2: this plot twist. I guess figuring it out, well, you'll
[27:51] Speaker 2: land at a threshold naturally, at some point where the
[27:54] Speaker 2: conversation will shift to what are we doing? Until you
[27:57] Speaker 2: get there, you guys aren't capable of making those decisions
[28:00] Speaker 2: because you can't quit each other. And I think that's
[28:02] Speaker 2: totally fine anyway. Yeah, bulletin complete, that's what's happening over here.
[28:13] Speaker 1: Do you feel good sharing that with a d L.
[28:15] Speaker 1: I do. I don't like having secrets from the DLS.
[28:17] Speaker 2: I feel like it's not where we are in this relationship,
[28:20] Speaker 2: and I'm talking about us and the d LS. You
[28:22] Speaker 2: know totally, you know about the one gray pube, you
[28:25] Speaker 2: know about you know too much, you know too much,
[28:28] Speaker 2: So at least now when Rev shares content on her
[28:32] Speaker 2: stories where she says I'm incurably happy today, we know
[28:36] Speaker 2: what the cause of that, because.
[28:37] Speaker 1: It's not me, guys, it's not the show, it's all
[28:43] Speaker 1: of it's it's all hum like how we were am
[28:46] Speaker 1: I allowed to get I'm a fully aware I'm a
[28:48] Speaker 1: woman in limerens. But of course this is when I
[28:51] Speaker 1: meet someone. My life is amazing, and isn't that what
[28:54] Speaker 1: they say? You feel in the.
[28:55] Speaker 2: Life you want and good things come your way. I've
[28:58] Speaker 2: never been more tent and just happy in my life,
[29:02] Speaker 2: so of course I've attracted a kind of person who's
[29:05] Speaker 2: going to add to that happiness.
[29:06] Speaker 1: It just makes perfect sense, doesn't it. Doesn't It like
[29:09] Speaker 1: when you were in your.
[29:10] Speaker 2: Absolute home glow Era, that someone comes and cough blocks it.
[29:18] Speaker 1: No more.
[29:21] Speaker 2: I'm taking her heart and you are lucking up shop
[29:24] Speaker 2: while we're talking, will Woo for fifty percent of the
[29:27] Speaker 2: dls who I know live in the real world with me.
[29:30] Speaker 1: All right, to Palette cleanse it. We need to go
[29:33] Speaker 1: back to what your tarot card my medium said.
[29:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, she said that you would meet the love of
[29:41] Speaker 2: your life in August. Now I've been over this with myself. Yep,
[29:45] Speaker 2: I've gone back over the notes and yes, everything she
[29:48] Speaker 2: said describes him.
[29:49] Speaker 1: Here we go to a tea. But the time she
[29:51] Speaker 1: was very clear about it was August. She got some
[29:53] Speaker 1: things really right.
[29:54] Speaker 2: Okay, so he's going to move back in August.
[29:56] Speaker 1: No, he's not, No way, no way. This with my
[30:00] Speaker 1: friend who referred me to this psychic, she was like, well, wait,
[30:03] Speaker 1: it's not August.
[30:03] Speaker 2: And I was like, I know, and she's like, okay,
[30:06] Speaker 2: So either she got the timing wrong but the guy right, or.
[30:10] Speaker 1: She's just got all wrong with generosity.
[30:13] Speaker 2: Came to a job with job, so that surgeon misdiagnosed me, Like,
[30:20] Speaker 2: I mean that Brickie got the measurements wrong, but I
[30:23] Speaker 2: got the color right.
[30:25] Speaker 1: It's just wild, I know.
[30:27] Speaker 2: Remember she said he won't have many kids, he'll have
[30:29] Speaker 2: his own thing going on, there'll be lots of travel,
[30:31] Speaker 2: and I was like, nah, anyway, I don't know here
[30:34] Speaker 2: we are, but it's definitely not August. It was definitely May.
[30:37] Speaker 2: All right, while we're in an episode of whiplash, let's
[30:41] Speaker 2: change directions, hear me with your nuts spawn?
[30:45] Speaker 1: All right, So myndspawn's probably something that a lot of
[30:48] Speaker 1: you are already doing, but I needed to bring this.
[30:50] Speaker 2: I have made the switch with my robot from Chatty
[30:53] Speaker 2: Cathy to Claudette. Okay, I need this conversation because I'm
[30:57] Speaker 2: a slow adopter of change.
[30:59] Speaker 1: I'm very like, you know.
[31:00] Speaker 2: Once I moved to Apple, I was like, you can
[31:03] Speaker 2: take my Apple products out of my cold dead hands,
[31:06] Speaker 2: and I feel that with Chatty Kathy, I'm not ready
[31:08] Speaker 2: to learn a new user interface, Like it's what I.
[31:11] Speaker 1: Exactly is it?
[31:12] Speaker 2: It's exactly same with a nicer font. To be honest,
[31:14] Speaker 2: you x wis you can also like upload your Chatty
[31:18] Speaker 2: history to Claude and so it's.
[31:20] Speaker 1: Caught up on you. Oh, I didn't know you could
[31:22] Speaker 1: do it easy. You don't have too. You don't have
[31:24] Speaker 1: to retrain. It's easy. You don't you ask Claude, how
[31:26] Speaker 1: do I bring you up to speed?
[31:28] Speaker 2: For my chatoboteat will tell you when you do it,
[31:29] Speaker 2: and it's very effective and you don't have to like
[31:32] Speaker 2: retrain your robot. You know, if your robot knows you well,
[31:34] Speaker 2: or if you want to scrub that and start fresh
[31:37] Speaker 2: with a new robot that's also on the table.
[31:39] Speaker 1: Nothing semi appealing about that, honest, let's be real exactly anyway,
[31:42] Speaker 1: So why is Claudette better?
[31:44] Speaker 2: I moved and I call her Claudette because it's the
[31:46] Speaker 2: most feminine AI experience out there, Like I use Gemini
[31:50] Speaker 2: for work and I always use chat repute. They feel
[31:53] Speaker 2: very male, you know, they feel very like the tech
[31:56] Speaker 2: bros in Silicon Valley.
[31:58] Speaker 1: It's got that energy to it, right, whereas Claude, I
[32:01] Speaker 1: don't know. It's like a lovely font and it's like
[32:03] Speaker 1: pretty colors, and she just talks to you in a
[32:06] Speaker 1: more considered, elevated, kind of articulate way, and I enjoy that.
[32:11] Speaker 2: There's also amazing inputs I forgot you call them what
[32:14] Speaker 2: do you call them? Like a thing you give the
[32:16] Speaker 2: robot that like does changes them. Like you can basically say,
[32:20] Speaker 2: when you give me answers, I want you to give
[32:22] Speaker 2: me prompts real talk. No, but you can tell them
[32:24] Speaker 2: once and then they apply it to all the way
[32:26] Speaker 2: they talk to you. Yeah, And you can sort of say,
[32:28] Speaker 2: I want you to give me real talk, but I
[32:30] Speaker 2: want you to be nice about it, and or I
[32:32] Speaker 2: want whatever.
[32:32] Speaker 1: Anyway.
[32:33] Speaker 2: The reason I move to Claude is it's a more
[32:35] Speaker 2: ethical platform, and safety is their like overarching driving mission
[32:39] Speaker 2: now I'm not saying any AI is perfect. I know
[32:42] Speaker 2: it's all on new minefield and we don't know what's
[32:44] Speaker 2: happening in the future, and we don't know, you know.
[32:46] Speaker 1: The impact.
[32:46] Speaker 2: I understand it's still an AI tech company and we're
[32:49] Speaker 2: not going to blindly follow along. We have to have
[32:51] Speaker 2: a healthy dose of skepticism with all these things. But
[32:54] Speaker 2: safety is their guiding mission and they're not going to
[32:56] Speaker 2: sell on your data to third parties. And you know,
[32:58] Speaker 2: they're positioning them so in the market as the more
[33:01] Speaker 2: ethical AI.
[33:02] Speaker 1: Anyway, I think it's way better.
[33:04] Speaker 2: So a couple of girlfriends of mine have also transitioned
[33:07] Speaker 2: to Claude and I've got Fomo because they're like Claude
[33:10] Speaker 2: Claude and I'm like, I don't know this, make.
[33:12] Speaker 1: Claude like I'm in the matter. Then this mad clawd
[33:17] Speaker 1: you know.
[33:18] Speaker 2: So I've got Fomo and you've got this whole relationship
[33:21] Speaker 2: with Claude and it's very established and I feel like
[33:24] Speaker 2: on the starting blocks, but a race, come on.
[33:26] Speaker 1: Bob left using Claude. She's lovely. Can I ask, are
[33:30] Speaker 1: you on the subscription model? Like do you pay?
[33:33] Speaker 2: I just wasn't at first, but I am now because
[33:35] Speaker 2: I find I'm just using it because this is a
[33:37] Speaker 2: thing I.
[33:37] Speaker 1: Pay as well for chat gyp let it go to
[33:40] Speaker 1: access all.
[33:40] Speaker 2: The features, and I'm like, do I want to transition?
[33:43] Speaker 2: I remember when there was one streamer and now we.
[33:46] Speaker 1: And how much better?
[33:47] Speaker 2: Because I hear that the algorithm with AI advancement is,
[33:51] Speaker 2: you know, one brand takes the lead and the other
[33:54] Speaker 2: ones behind, and then the other one surpasses and then
[33:57] Speaker 2: it kind of goes up and up and up like
[33:59] Speaker 2: a ladder.
[34:00] Speaker 1: And right now Claude is the hot flavor. Yeah, I
[34:02] Speaker 1: like it. I like it a lot.
[34:03] Speaker 2: It can also take bigger documents and things like that
[34:06] Speaker 2: if you want things read for you. And I heard
[34:08] Speaker 2: claud is better for visual people. Yeah, like if you're
[34:11] Speaker 2: interested in interiors and stuff like that, which I.
[34:14] Speaker 1: Am at the moment.
[34:15] Speaker 2: Yeah, if you care about image generation. I still think
[34:17] Speaker 2: Gemini now, no Banana is the best. You know anyway,
[34:20] Speaker 2: Claude for like those everyday robot things interesting and guys,
[34:24] Speaker 2: I know, I just feel like I have to say
[34:25] Speaker 2: I'm aware. Yeah, don't slide in until I we know
[34:30] Speaker 2: the environment.
[34:31] Speaker 1: I try and be responsible and I'm not giving it
[34:33] Speaker 1: my whole life or whatever but also I did share
[34:35] Speaker 1: if you don't want your kids.
[34:36] Speaker 2: Looking at your chat GPT history. Now the kids have
[34:39] Speaker 2: chat GPT on their iPad. They can use that for
[34:41] Speaker 2: their homework or whatever. And I have Claude and they can't.
[34:43] Speaker 1: See my history.
[34:44] Speaker 2: Oh wow, come because Claude's on my phone and I
[34:47] Speaker 2: just keep it on my phone.
[34:48] Speaker 1: I don't have it on any of the other devices.
[34:49] Speaker 1: That's smart. Yeah. Anyway, I like her a lot. She's
[34:52] Speaker 1: a nice new friend. We'll see where the friendship goes.
[34:55] Speaker 1: Love this for you?
[34:56] Speaker 2: Hit me aware they're not spot Have I gotta nut
[34:59] Speaker 2: spawn for you.
[35:00] Speaker 1: Mine's a piece of jewelry. Oh we love jewelry well.
[35:03] Speaker 2: I shared it on Instagram and it had such a
[35:05] Speaker 2: lovely response because it turns out there's a lot of
[35:08] Speaker 2: other sentimental folk out there who love these sorts of keepsakes.
[35:12] Speaker 2: But one of my long time favorite jewelry brands, Nicole Fendel,
[35:17] Speaker 2: has released a locket and first of all, design Chef's
[35:21] Speaker 2: Kiss so beautiful. It's really simple. It's got a diamond,
[35:25] Speaker 2: not a diamond, but you know, still a crystal in
[35:28] Speaker 2: the middle, and it's got this sort of true North
[35:30] Speaker 2: Star vibe to it. The quality is exceptional. And what
[35:35] Speaker 2: you do is you send Nicole Fendel the photo slash photos.
[35:39] Speaker 2: Obviously there's two sides to a locket, and I've got
[35:41] Speaker 2: a picture of each of my kids. I got one
[35:44] Speaker 2: for my mom for Mother's Day and she loves it.
[35:47] Speaker 2: It's so treasured, and you know, trying to cut the
[35:50] Speaker 2: picture and get it into the locket, I feel is
[35:52] Speaker 2: half the battle.
[35:53] Speaker 1: Well, it's all done for you.
[35:54] Speaker 2: Yeah. So maybe you're turning forty, maybe you're looking for
[35:57] Speaker 2: something special for you or for a loved one. This
[36:00] Speaker 2: would make an incredible gift, sure would. And everything that
[36:03] Speaker 2: Cole does is so gorgeous and beautiful. I'm still wearing
[36:06] Speaker 2: things I got from her four or five years ago. Yeah,
[36:09] Speaker 2: and when we were in wedding season. Holy shit, this
[36:11] Speaker 2: is how long spanning the love affair is. It's like
[36:14] Speaker 2: the gifts we gave our bridesmaids. I feel like she's
[36:17] Speaker 2: all still beautiful. Yeah, I was gonna say, I think
[36:19] Speaker 2: she's proven herself to be like a classical jewelry maker,
[36:23] Speaker 2: where all the pieces have longevity, are not of a trend. Yeah, anyway,
[36:27] Speaker 2: very clever. And I've met Nicole a couple of times,
[36:29] Speaker 2: and she's just a good person, you know, supporting us
[36:32] Speaker 2: small run business, which we all love here at the pod.
[36:35] Speaker 1: All right, deals, well, thanks for coming on.
[36:38] Speaker 2: The journey as per as per U, I promise the
[36:41] Speaker 2: Year of the Horse, Well, no, I don't promise.
[36:43] Speaker 1: I don't promise. Shit.
[36:44] Speaker 2: The Year of the Horse is horsing pretty hard, isn't
[36:46] Speaker 2: it really? Galloping out of fucking whatever page lightning pace?
[36:50] Speaker 2: You know what, I've just lady goodiver with my long
[36:53] Speaker 2: Stenny's waving in the air up bear back in that
[36:56] Speaker 2: horse fucking riding.
[36:57] Speaker 1: Fuck yes, Rebsie, we love this fee. Thank you, Thanks,
[37:00] Speaker 1: and we're going to continue to check in on the
[37:02] Speaker 1: Journey of Love. We can't wait to hear more, particularly
[37:05] Speaker 1: about your trip to New York. Okay, if you've done long.
[37:08] Speaker 2: Distance before and successfully, I don't want to hear about
[37:10] Speaker 2: the unsuccessful ones. If you've done it successfully, can you
[37:14] Speaker 2: slide in and give me anything that.
[37:15] Speaker 1: Might help, because yeah, it's obviously going to be challenging.
[37:19] Speaker 2: And I would love tips from dls okay, because I
[37:22] Speaker 2: trust the dls, because the dls know what's up on GP.
[37:24] Speaker 1: We love you dls, and as always, we'll be back
[37:27] Speaker 1: in your ears bright and early on Friday with the
[37:29] Speaker 1: best d you Hotline, unless, of course, you're part of
[37:31] Speaker 1: the More Time family. Actually, if you.
[37:34] Speaker 2: Missed it, we had a very curious OTDL episode that
[37:39] Speaker 2: dropped the last week. We are loving the dms from
[37:42] Speaker 2: that episode. But here's a little sample in case you
[37:44] Speaker 2: missed it and you want to tune in.
[37:46] Speaker 1: And three days waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, didn't hear anything,
[37:50] Speaker 1: and then eventually I got a.
[37:51] Speaker 2: Call from a private number, picked it up and I'll
[37:53] Speaker 2: never forget this message. It's like, see it into my brain.
[37:56] Speaker 1: You are receiving it a call from an inmate at
[37:59] Speaker 1: Silver Water Prison.
[38:00] Speaker 2: Do you accepts?
[38:02] Speaker 1: Like, just press one if you accept. He used to
[38:06] Speaker 1: call me Teddy and he was like, what's Teddy? Well,
[38:12] Speaker 1: we know what he's done. I was crying. I was
[38:17] Speaker 1: so happy to hear his stupid voice, and I was like, oh,
[38:21] Speaker 1: what we gonna do?
[38:23] Speaker 2: If that sounds like something you want to get in
[38:25] Speaker 2: your ears, it's easy to find link in the show notes,
[38:28] Speaker 2: link in our Instagram, or jump on Apple Spotify and
[38:30] Speaker 2: search for more time for this.
[38:32] Speaker 1: It's all there for you.
[38:33] Speaker 2: And of course, if you haven't got your live show
[38:34] Speaker 2: tickets or your upgrades. Yet you're running out of time,
[38:38] Speaker 2: is about to hit the road.
[38:39] Speaker 1: I got a quickly show an anecdote.
[38:40] Speaker 2: We do have a DL who upgraded to vittle and
[38:43] Speaker 2: then decided fuck it and upgraded herself to backstage Pass.
[38:47] Speaker 2: She got a refund on her vidal and she's joined
[38:50] Speaker 2: the chowfam family. Yeah, because the t being spilt. Yeah,
[38:54] Speaker 2: shout out to Leah. We're very happy to welcome you
[38:57] Speaker 2: into Backstage Past.
[38:58] Speaker 1: Today.
[38:58] Speaker 2: We are having so much fun with the Chauffam group chat.
[39:01] Speaker 2: A lot of tea is being spilt in there, a
[39:03] Speaker 2: lot of behind the scenes, and the vibes are immaculate.
[39:06] Speaker 1: Gem. I've noticed you're participating a lot in the group chat.
[39:09] Speaker 2: Because it's feels secrety.
[39:12] Speaker 1: I think fun, Yeah, Admin in there for you, that's
[39:15] Speaker 1: what it.
[39:15] Speaker 2: Is totally, And you know DL's I'm famously terrible in
[39:18] Speaker 2: a group chat. But the thing that I like about
[39:19] Speaker 2: Backstage Pass is it's for the dls who love a spoiler. Yeah,
[39:24] Speaker 2: and I'm one of those people. I might give me
[39:26] Speaker 2: all the fucking spoilers, but in this scenario, ReBs and
[39:29] Speaker 2: I get to be.
[39:30] Speaker 1: The deliverer of spoilers. So it's like sharing little secrets.
[39:34] Speaker 1: It's like the ultimate behind the scenes sausage fest. Yeah,
[39:39] Speaker 1: sausage facts.
[39:40] Speaker 2: Except just all glorious women and our two token males.
[39:44] Speaker 1: It doesn't bet much better. Really, show Daddy's.
[39:46] Speaker 2: In there and our dop Tom who shot all the
[39:48] Speaker 2: video contents in there, and he's so sweet.
[39:50] Speaker 1: We loving Tom in there. He's just like he's like
[39:53] Speaker 1: the little brother of the pod. Honestly, he's the cutest.
[39:55] Speaker 1: He sure is.
[39:56] Speaker 2: Anyway, that's all available for you on our website. If
[39:58] Speaker 2: you want to come join, I'm joining the fun and
[40:01] Speaker 2: make a huge night out of your trip to the
[40:03] Speaker 2: live show. And if you haven't got your seats yet,
[40:05] Speaker 2: I mean quick get them because we are hitting the
[40:07] Speaker 2: road with our tour in a.
[40:09] Speaker 1: Matter of weeks, sneaking up on us ReBs. I can't wait.
[40:12] Speaker 1: I can't wait. We love you DLS. Thanks for being
[40:14] Speaker 1: here by DLS.
[40:16] Speaker 2: As you already know, we're hitting the road with our
[40:18] Speaker 2: brand new live show.
[40:20] Speaker 1: Know thyself, we're together, irl.
[40:23] Speaker 2: We will unpack the glorious chaos of being a woman,
[40:25] Speaker 2: a mum, a partner, a friend, a person who somehow
[40:28] Speaker 2: ended up responsible for everyone's calendar and wrapping all the gifts,
[40:31] Speaker 2: So it's time to treat yourself to a night of
[40:34] Speaker 2: unhinged humor, outrageous honesty and dopamine, or at the very least,
[40:39] Speaker 2: spend two hours with a room full of women who
[40:42] Speaker 2: get it and maybe just maybe walk away feeling like
[40:45] Speaker 2: you understand yourself a little better, which frankly is better
[40:48] Speaker 2: than therapy.
[40:49] Speaker 1: The number one.
[40:49] Speaker 2: Quazy we always get is do you have to be
[40:52] Speaker 2: a listener to understand the show?
[40:54] Speaker 1: Absolutely not. To enjoy our live shows to the max,
[40:58] Speaker 1: you simply need a vagina.
[40:59] Speaker 2: So gather your bitches and bitches, your sister, your mom,
[41:02] Speaker 2: your emotionally exhausted neighbor with a toddler and join us.
[41:05] Speaker 2: Tickets to Know Thyself are on sale now Sydney, Brisbane,
[41:09] Speaker 2: Camera Melbourne and Adelaide.
[41:11] Speaker 1: Pick your poison head to we don't have time for
[41:13] Speaker 1: this dot com. Hey it's Tamman rest. You know the
[41:17] Speaker 1: drill times taking fast, so we're keeping it rid. Both
[41:23] Speaker 1: times of waste gotta run go to cash. Lives are crazy,
[41:26] Speaker 1: heck to explass upon.
[41:27] Speaker 2: Popping sarcasm in the air, I'm tune to turn up
[41:30] Speaker 2: for the perfect.
[41:32] Speaker 1: We don't time welcome, so no no, no, keep keep
[41:41] Speaker 1: and Jock Lady jo we on that time.
[41:47] Speaker 2: Let's go, go, go

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