# Why stealing other people’s ideas can be a good thing (w/ Austin Kleon)

An episode of [How to Be a Better Human](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1544098624), 23 Jun 2025, 39 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/67572b3b2dd88df13220eb3b/e/6848a3289b8dde68cd3d0576/media.mp3

Austin Kleon thinks stealing inspiration is a good thing — because it requires you to pay attention to the world. Austin is a self-proclaimed “creative kleptomaniac” and the author of five books, including Steal Like An Artist: 10 Things Nobody Told You About Being Creative. In his conversation with Chris, they discuss “scenius,” or the creative genius of a group, how children are invaluable creative teachers, and why he thrives in the tension between discipline and spontaneity. Follow Host: Chris Duffy (Instagram: @chrisiduffy | chrisduffycomedy.com) Guest: Austin Kleon (Instagram: @austinkleon | Website: https://austinkleon.com/) Links Austin Kleon’s Substack Steal Like an Artist (Book) Subscribe to TED Instagram: @ted YouTube: @TED TikTok: @tedtoks LinkedIn: @ted-conferences Website: ted.com Podcasts: ted.com/podcasts For the full text transcript, visit go.ted.com/BHTranscripts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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