# How to rest when life is overwhelming (w/ Katherine May)

An episode of [How to Be a Better Human](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1544098624), 25 Aug 2025, 40 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/67572b3b2dd88df13220eb3b/e/6883a5e73781311f91405bc8/media.mp3

When someone you love is going through a difficult time, what do you say? Despite your best intentions, author Katherine May argues offering help or shying away from tough conversations isn’t as effective as you think. Katherine is the author of the memoir, Wintering: The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult Times, and its latest companion piece, Enchantment: Awakening Wonder in an Anxious Age. Chris and Katherine share how humor may sometimes be a good medicine and how to live alongside life’s difficulties. Follow Host: Chris Duffy (Instagram: @chrisiduffy | chrisduffycomedy.com) Guest: Katherine May (Instagram: @katherinemay_ | Website: katherine-may.co.uk/) Links Wintering: The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult Times (UK Bookshop / US & CAN Bookshop) Enchantment: Reawakening Wonder in an Exhausted Age (UK Bookshop / US & CAN Bookshop) Subscribe to TED Instagram: @ted YouTube: @TED TikTok: @tedtoks LinkedIn: @ted-conferences Website: ted.com Podcasts: ted.com/podcasts For the full text transcript, visit go.ted.com/BHTranscripts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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