# How to talk so people will listen (w/ Julian Treasure)

An episode of [How to Be a Better Human](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1544098624), 22 Sep 2025, 39 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/67572b3b2dd88df13220eb3b/e/68af4f6373bf5b6298d34f35/media.mp3

What’s more important in communication— the content or the delivery? Julian Treasure is a five-time TED speaker and the author of Sound Affects: How Sound Shapes Our Lives, Our Wellbeing and Our Planet, and he argues conscious listening is an invaluable tool for elevating conversations. Julian joins Chris to give advice on how to speak better, the listening method that could save your marriage, and how to be comfortable in silence. Follow Host: Chris Duffy (Instagram: @chrisiduffy | chrisduffycomedy.com) Guest: Julian Treasure (Instagram: @juliantreasure | LinkedIn: @juliantreasure | Website: https://www.juliantreasure.com/) Links Sound Affects: How Sound Shapes Our Lives, Our Wellbeing and Our Planet How to Be Heard Subscribe to TED Instagram: @ted YouTube: @TED TikTok: @tedtoks LinkedIn: @ted-conferences Website: ted.com Podcasts: ted.com/podcasts For the full text transcript, visit go.ted.com/BHTranscripts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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