# Why Banks Like Bitcoin Now, With Pascal Hügli | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #102

An episode of [Relai Bitcoin Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1543267066), 27 Aug 2025, 45 min.

Audio: https://op3.dev/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/feeds.fountain.fm/7ilw7beWWnURlXWMfPch/items/Jmf4ada7h1JUvevaw7Kv/files/AUDIO---DEFAULT---7869dabf-a8e0-42bf-baf3-579a9ddc98b4.mp3

Pascal Hügli is a former journalist and currently an investment manager at Maerki Baumann. The bank is one of the leading financial institutions in Switzerland that offers exposure to Bitcoin and other digital currencies. In this conversation with Relai's Head of Communications, Joël Kai Lenz, Pascal discusses his journey into Bitcoin, why he decided to work in a bank, how whales and clients with big positions are selling BTC, why he wrote a book, and what he thinks the future holds. You can follow Pascal on X: https://x.com/pahueg Or connect with him on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pascal-huegli/ Pascal also has a great podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@lessnoisemoresignalpodcast You can buy Pascal's book here: https://www.ricardosalinas.com/en/librobitcoin — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 05:15 - Pascal's podcast 10:18 - Pascal's new book with Ricardo Salinas 15:10 - Bitcoin's role in banking and institutional adoption 20:19 - Market dynamics and why we see so much selling 25:16 - The impact of BlackRock and other financial institutions 26:53 - Do clients of Maerki Baumann like Bitcoin or Bitcoin ETFs more? 30:15 - The human element in Bitcoin and its community 32:36 - Fiat vs. Bitcoin: Can it co-exist for the next century? 36:45 - Bitcoin treasury companies and their impact 41:08 - The rationality of Bitcoin investments — Prefer to enjoy this show in audio format? 🎧Listen on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066 🎧Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44 -- The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date. -- 🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin: 🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/ 📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: https://relai.app/newsletter 👀 Need help? Send us a message: https://support.relai.app/en/ Connect with us: Instagram: https://instagram.com/relai.app Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/relai_app LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/relai Disclaimer: Relai services are exclusively recommended for Swiss and Italian residents. Bitcoin #Finance #Investing #RelaiApp #SwissBitcoin #StackSats #21BitcoinBasics #BitcoinEducation

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