# How Traditional Finance Is Changing Bitcoin with British HODL | Relai Bitcoin Podcast #133

An episode of [Relai Bitcoin Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1543267066), 15 Oct 2026, 53 min.

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British HODL is an ex-gold, ex-real estate, and ex-equities investor who has now shifted his focus onto Bitcoin. He is one of the most active and vocal accounts on X, often breaking down the latest news with sharp focus and detailed explanations. In this conversation with Relai CEO Julian Liniger, he discusses Bitcoin's current place in the traditional financial landscape, why Bitcoin businesses need to adapt, what changes ETFs and Bitcoin-backed products have brought, and why he remains bullish on the future. You can follow British HODL on X: https://x.com/BritishHodl — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 03:04 - Real estate repricing instead of a crash 07:03 - Bitcoin as collateral for investors 12:26 - Why the U.S. may favor a new monetary asset over gold 16:00 - Money printing, GDP growth, and the U.S. Dollar 18:05 - Learning from wealthy people still building wealth 24:01 - Bitcoin’s changing investor base 30:27 - Generating income from Bitcoin exposure 36:18 - The role of self-custody in today's Bitcoin economy 41:27 - Philosophical businesses versus profitable businesses 48:44 - Institutional custody and the need of large holders 51:35 - British HODL’s advice for Relai — Prefer to enjoy this show in audio format? 🎧Listen on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/relai-bitcoin-podcast/id1543267066 🎧Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/06BdZid57RlCgBNsgr703A?si=5ec60cc680534b44 -- The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date. -- 🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin: 🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/ 📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: https://relai.app/newsletter 👀 Need help? Send us a message: https://support.relai.app/en/ Connect with us: Instagram: https://instagram.com/relai.app Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/relai_app LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/relai Disclaimer: Relai EU SASU holds an authorisation as a crypto-asset service provider under the MiCA Regulation, granted by the French financial markets authority AMF, and serves clients in the European Union on that basis. Clients resident in Switzerland and Liechtenstein are served by Relai AG, which is affiliated as a financial intermediary with the VQF, a self-regulatory organisation recognised by FINMA under the Anti-Money Laundering Act.

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