# The Insiders Podcast: Rise of the Hybrid Defender, Cam Heyward and Sean McDermott Join the Insiders

An episode of [NFL: The Insiders](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1543090622), 23 Apr 2026, 43 min.

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NFL Network Insiders Ian Rapoport, Tom Pelissero, Mike Garafolo, and Judy Battista set the stage for tomorrow’s NFL draft with team reports from the Raiders, Jets, Giants, Chiefs & Cowboys. Then Steelers defensive tackle Cam Heyward talks with Judy about Mike McCarthy’s first draft as the Steelers’ new head coach; former Bills head coach Sean McDermott joins Tom and Ian to share his life after coaching; and Steve Wyche explains why the hybrid defender is becoming a must have in the NFL. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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