# The Insiders Podcast: Matt Nagy on Jaxson Dart, Travis Hunter Injury Update, & Running Backs Rising in The Draft

An episode of [NFL: The Insiders](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1543090622), 10 Apr 2026, 41 min.

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NFL Network Insiders Tom Pelissero, Ian Rapoport & Judy Battista discuss the prospects attending the draft. Reaction to Giants OC Matt Nagy’s comments on Jaxson Dart and Jaguars GM James Gladstone’s injury update on Travis Hunter. Lance Zierlein highlights the teams under the most pressure to make the right first-round pick. Draft prospect Kyle Louis joins to discuss his journey, while Brian Baldinger breaks down the next wave of impact RBs and joins Omar Ruiz to analyze the Raiders’ roster and draft strategy. Michael F. Florio provides his fantasy forecast for this year’s draft class. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:01] Speaker 1: The Giants are back to work and the new coaches
[0:04] Speaker 1: have big plans for Jackson Dark. Here what oc Matt
[0:08] Speaker 1: Nagy said today about his vision for Dark two point zero.
[0:13] Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza is two weeks away from probably landing in
[0:17] Speaker 1: Las Vegas, where he'll team up with Kirk Cousins Brian Boldingers.
[0:21] Speaker 1: Here tonight to break down one of the NFL's most
[0:24] Speaker 1: fascinating quarterback rooms. We'll also chat with a prospect whose
[0:28] Speaker 1: name could be called later in the draft, Pitts. Kyle
[0:31] Speaker 1: Lewis joins the show to talk about where he could
[0:34] Speaker 1: be dancing and harassing. QB's next. Welcome inside with the
[0:38] Speaker 1: Insiders alongside Ian Rappaport and Juny Batiste. I am Tom Pelicero.
[0:45] Speaker 1: We are fourteen days away from the twenty twenty six
[0:48] Speaker 1: NFL Draft, and within the past hour, we now know
[0:52] Speaker 1: the sixteen players who will be in the green room
[0:55] Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh seeing when their names are going to be called.
[0:58] Speaker 1: Take a look at the offensives. No, Fernando MENDOZI will
[1:01] Speaker 1: be taking the draft in from back home, but we'll
[1:04] Speaker 1: have a quarterback. Ty Simpson is going to be on
[1:07] Speaker 1: hand among several receivers and lineman defensively, some of the
[1:11] Speaker 1: biggest names in the entire draft. David Bailey, the Texas
[1:15] Speaker 1: tech edge among them. Ian who in your mind is
[1:18] Speaker 1: the most interesting of these sixteen guys? And what for me?
[1:21] Speaker 2: I have my eyes on Ruben Bain, one of the
[1:23] Speaker 2: top pass rushers in this draft, no doubt talent. I
[1:26] Speaker 2: know a lot of people love his film, and certainly
[1:29] Speaker 2: it's fair to say there are questions mostly about his
[1:31] Speaker 2: short arms, which sounds familiar. It's exactly what we do
[1:34] Speaker 2: with Will Campbell last year ended up going number four overall.
[1:37] Speaker 2: But Bain is an interesting one for me, guys, because
[1:40] Speaker 2: let's just say in this scenario that he gets to
[1:43] Speaker 2: let's say six or maybe seven. I know there's some
[1:47] Speaker 2: teams up around ten. You got the Kennessey Chiefs, you
[1:51] Speaker 2: have the Saints at eight, you have the Dallas Cowboys
[1:53] Speaker 2: a little after that, who have done all the homework
[1:56] Speaker 2: on edge rushers. Who who have a need at edge
[1:59] Speaker 2: rusher to try to get an impact player in the defense.
[2:01] Speaker 2: Is Reuben Bain the center of some trade talks? Do
[2:05] Speaker 2: we actually see bainbe the subject of the first trade
[2:08] Speaker 2: in the top ten? For me, this isn't a question
[2:11] Speaker 2: of when he is going to go. He is going
[2:13] Speaker 2: to go, and want he is going to be a
[2:14] Speaker 2: top fifteen pick. It's really just does someone absolutely need
[2:19] Speaker 2: him where they decide to trade up for.
[2:21] Speaker 3: I am going to have my eyes on ty Simpson, who,
[2:23] Speaker 3: as it stands right now, is the only quarterback slated
[2:26] Speaker 3: to be in the room, which means all of the
[2:28] Speaker 3: cameras will be on him anyway. And one of the
[2:32] Speaker 3: things watching the green room that gives me nervous, it
[2:36] Speaker 3: gets me nervous, is watching guys sit there too long,
[2:39] Speaker 3: and we just don't have a good read right now
[2:42] Speaker 3: on how ty Simpson is going to go. At what
[2:45] Speaker 3: point in the draft is he going to go? Is
[2:47] Speaker 3: it possibly slips out of the first round, even it's
[2:51] Speaker 3: a really tough spot. I admire guys who want to
[2:55] Speaker 3: go to the draft. I know they all dream about
[2:57] Speaker 3: walking across the stage and being the commissioner when they
[3:01] Speaker 3: are selected.
[3:03] Speaker 1: But I just flashed back to when Lamar Jackson was in.
[3:05] Speaker 3: The green room and sitting there, sitting there, sitting there,
[3:08] Speaker 3: that long, long wait, and how tough it is on
[3:10] Speaker 3: guys who have to wait. I hope that is not
[3:12] Speaker 3: the case for Ty Simpson, I am going to be
[3:15] Speaker 3: watching him. I think we're all going to be watching him.
[3:17] Speaker 1: In any case, we all remember all those quarterbacks who
[3:19] Speaker 1: had longer than anticipated waits. Will Levis was one recently,
[3:22] Speaker 1: Brady Quinn. If you go back in the day, it
[3:25] Speaker 1: is a gamble to be in that room, especially as
[3:28] Speaker 1: a quarterback with all eyes on you. Probably not as
[3:30] Speaker 1: much of a gamble being an Ohio State player in
[3:33] Speaker 1: the green room. Five Ohio State players above these sixteen.
[3:36] Speaker 1: Our records go back to twenty twelve. This would match
[3:40] Speaker 1: the record along with twenty twelve Alabama and twenty sixteen
[3:43] Speaker 1: Ohio State for the most guys from one room. We
[3:45] Speaker 1: know all these guys kind of get to know each
[3:47] Speaker 1: other throughout the course of the week, but you can
[3:49] Speaker 1: only imagine these celebrations that will go on as those
[3:51] Speaker 1: first couple of guys come off the board and some
[3:54] Speaker 1: of the dudes that they are closest with being in
[3:56] Speaker 1: that room with them. That is pretty cool. Jackson Dirt
[3:58] Speaker 1: had a little bit of a way last year before
[4:00] Speaker 1: the Giants traded back into the first round to get him. Now,
[4:04] Speaker 1: entering year two, he's got a new head coach in
[4:06] Speaker 1: John Harbaugh and a new offensive coordinator in Matt Nagy,
[4:10] Speaker 1: who has worked with a certain other talented quarterback in
[4:13] Speaker 1: Kansas City.
[4:14] Speaker 4: He's Jackson Dart. He's not Patrick Mahomes.
[4:16] Speaker 5: And I was able to be fortunate enough to be
[4:19] Speaker 5: around Patrick for many years, and I saw Patrick as
[4:22] Speaker 5: a rookie, and then I got to see him coming
[4:25] Speaker 5: back when I came back from Chicago four years in,
[4:28] Speaker 5: I got to see, you know, four more years of
[4:31] Speaker 5: him as a vet. But we can use that for
[4:34] Speaker 5: more like routines and like maybe how we did things.
[4:37] Speaker 5: But the one thing that I know is like, first
[4:40] Speaker 5: of all, I know how much respect that Jackson has
[4:43] Speaker 5: for Patrick, and we've talked a little bit about the
[4:46] Speaker 5: process and what he's been through, but like we've also
[4:48] Speaker 5: made it clear like you have to be Jackson Dart
[4:51] Speaker 5: and he's going to do that. So it's our job
[4:53] Speaker 5: to surround him and insulate him, give him direction, but
[4:56] Speaker 5: he has to be able to tell us like what,
[4:59] Speaker 5: how he likes, why he likes it, and so forth.
[5:01] Speaker 5: So we're going to be really intentional on how we
[5:05] Speaker 5: do that.
[5:07] Speaker 1: Matt, may you obain the first rule of OC club
[5:10] Speaker 1: never compare your current quarterback to maybe the greatest quarterback
[5:13] Speaker 1: of all time. We know this Giants team, Judy has
[5:15] Speaker 1: some talent on the roster. They've got some guys they
[5:17] Speaker 1: were like at the skill spots. They're high on Jackson
[5:19] Speaker 1: Darts seven picks in this year's draft. Give me the
[5:21] Speaker 1: state of the Giants from your perspective right.
[5:23] Speaker 3: Now, I can tell you that one thing that is
[5:25] Speaker 3: on their minds is protecting Jackson Dart. John Harbaugh has
[5:30] Speaker 3: been open talking about that the offensive line is.
[5:32] Speaker 1: A work in progress.
[5:33] Speaker 3: He's also talked about the defensive line too, but protecting
[5:36] Speaker 3: Jackson Dart sometimes protecting him from himself. This goes for
[5:39] Speaker 3: camp Skataboo too, when he's there protecting him better than
[5:44] Speaker 3: he was protected last year. He took a lot of
[5:46] Speaker 3: hard hits. That is something actually that Patrick Mahomes has
[5:49] Speaker 3: learned how to avoid in his career. Of course, we
[5:52] Speaker 3: know that he dances along the sideline and it drives
[5:54] Speaker 3: the defensive players crazy. But it is something that they
[5:57] Speaker 3: are going to have to teach Jackson Dart. Know they
[6:00] Speaker 3: are focused on shoring up that offensive line. It may
[6:04] Speaker 3: be more than a one year project. It played a
[6:06] Speaker 3: little bit better last season, but certainly it has a
[6:09] Speaker 3: ways to go. Keep an eye on that part of
[6:12] Speaker 3: the draft. What the Giants do in the trenches.
[6:15] Speaker 2: Say, What's going to be interesting to me is do
[6:17] Speaker 2: they get another weapon for Jackson guard? And I think
[6:20] Speaker 2: what the Giants tried to do was use the last
[6:23] Speaker 2: two or three weeks to really make it so they
[6:26] Speaker 2: could just take the best available player, right, I mean
[6:28] Speaker 2: they still had a need at guard. Maybe a start
[6:30] Speaker 2: of the side Daniel Falley over the last day or
[6:32] Speaker 2: so actually finalized today. Make sure their offensive line can
[6:35] Speaker 2: absolutely need some help, as Judy mentioned.
[6:37] Speaker 6: But doesn't have to have to have someone.
[6:40] Speaker 2: And you know, I would say this, like, if they're
[6:43] Speaker 2: going to be looking you know they're going to be
[6:44] Speaker 2: at number five, they're going to be looking at some
[6:47] Speaker 2: interesting options. I at Caleb Downs, I think on defense
[6:50] Speaker 2: would be an interesting one if one of the edd
[6:52] Speaker 2: Dressers falls there. What about Carnel Tate? What about the
[6:55] Speaker 2: Ohio State receiver? To me, feels like maybe you guys
[6:59] Speaker 2: correct me, I'm wrong, but feels like they get Sensus
[7:01] Speaker 2: top receiver on the board, didn't run as great as
[7:04] Speaker 2: he wanted on the combine.
[7:05] Speaker 6: I don't really get the sense of teams cared about that.
[7:08] Speaker 2: Could they use this premium pick to get one of
[7:11] Speaker 2: the premier players in the draft and give Jackson Dart
[7:14] Speaker 2: a key weapon even after taking the receivers early over
[7:17] Speaker 2: the last couple of years. I think they could, and
[7:19] Speaker 2: certainly that is something to watch for on Thursday Night.
[7:22] Speaker 1: Part of the question with those wide receivers is going
[7:24] Speaker 1: to be the positional value relative to the other guys
[7:26] Speaker 1: on the board. I have not gotten the consensus that
[7:28] Speaker 1: there's a clear this guy's definitely a top five, top
[7:31] Speaker 1: ten worthy wide receiver. But if that's what you need
[7:34] Speaker 1: and you think that he is, specially in terms of
[7:36] Speaker 1: being that much different than the other guys, certainly a
[7:38] Speaker 1: consideration here. It's gonna be fascinating to watch it play
[7:41] Speaker 1: out on Draft Day. Not many bigger stories in the
[7:43] Speaker 1: draft last year other than Shador Sanders than Travis Hunter,
[7:47] Speaker 1: the bold trade up by the Jaguars to go get
[7:50] Speaker 1: the dual threat from his Sanders college teammate at Colorado,
[7:55] Speaker 1: Travis Hunter suffering an injury. This year, rookie Seson never
[7:58] Speaker 1: really got off the ground. Here's what James Gladstone said
[8:01] Speaker 1: about last year's and this year's first round pick.
[8:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll be in for all intensive purposes, a limited
[8:07] Speaker 2: participant throughout the offseason program, with the eyes on return
[8:10] Speaker 2: to play at full tick in training camp.
[8:14] Speaker 1: So when you invest in a player like this ian,
[8:17] Speaker 1: you do it for a variety of different reasons. And
[8:19] Speaker 1: the Jaguars case, part of the value was we're getting
[8:21] Speaker 1: a top wide receiver and a top quarter and he
[8:24] Speaker 1: never really fully became that player on either side of
[8:27] Speaker 1: the ball prior to the injury. Based on what you know,
[8:30] Speaker 1: where is Travis Hunter in his recovery and how do
[8:33] Speaker 1: they fit into the bigger picture where the Jaguars go
[8:35] Speaker 1: from here. After a successful first season for Gladstone and
[8:37] Speaker 1: Liam Cole, Yeah, we'll.
[8:38] Speaker 2: Start time with the health part of it. Does seem
[8:40] Speaker 2: like Travis Hunter is doing exceptionally well. From that LCL
[8:43] Speaker 2: taire he has been running, he is doing well. He's
[8:46] Speaker 2: not going to be, as they mentioned, a full participant
[8:47] Speaker 2: in OTAs, but they.
[8:48] Speaker 6: Really do believe he will be full by training camp.
[8:51] Speaker 2: But when he comes back, and this is something that
[8:53] Speaker 2: our cam Wolf has told us over the last several weeks,
[8:55] Speaker 2: they expect him to be a full time corner, part
[8:58] Speaker 2: time receiver, which when you talk the teams last year.
[9:01] Speaker 2: That probably was where they thought the value wasn't really
[9:04] Speaker 2: where they thought.
[9:05] Speaker 6: The production reies.
[9:06] Speaker 2: So maybe this coming year we're going to get to
[9:08] Speaker 2: see the player that they drafted that they traded up
[9:11] Speaker 2: for last year because of that trade, Judy.
[9:14] Speaker 6: They also don't have.
[9:15] Speaker 2: A first round, so if they're going to improve the team,
[9:16] Speaker 2: it's going to be fifty six overall. But what really
[9:20] Speaker 2: stuck out to me this offseason about the Jaguars there
[9:23] Speaker 2: was no desperation.
[9:24] Speaker 6: They barely added guys.
[9:26] Speaker 2: They were more of a collect compick mode. Let Travis
[9:30] Speaker 2: atn go, let some of their guys go, let other
[9:32] Speaker 2: people pay for.
[9:33] Speaker 6: Them collect compicks.
[9:34] Speaker 2: That says to me, they believe one they're already good
[9:38] Speaker 2: enough to start planning for the future too. They don't
[9:40] Speaker 2: need to go get anything. Sets up really really well
[9:44] Speaker 2: for them draft wise because they can just take the
[9:46] Speaker 2: best player.
[9:46] Speaker 1: Travis Hunter.
[9:47] Speaker 3: To me, this almost feels like a bonus draft pick
[9:49] Speaker 3: this year because we saw so little of him last
[9:52] Speaker 3: year before he got hurt. This sort of feels like
[9:55] Speaker 3: an extra pick this year, and we know it's mostly
[9:57] Speaker 3: going to be at cornerback when he gets back on
[9:59] Speaker 3: the the Jaguars suffered some loss of personnel during free agency.
[10:04] Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd, Greg Newsom, you mentioned Travis Aten, So getting
[10:08] Speaker 3: somebody like Travis Hunter back, they could use that kind
[10:12] Speaker 3: of boost, and they could use that kind of injection
[10:14] Speaker 3: on the defense, that injection of high level talent. They
[10:18] Speaker 3: need an infusion there. As you pointed out, they don't
[10:22] Speaker 3: have a first round draft pick, so if they are
[10:24] Speaker 3: going to further shore up that roster, it's going to
[10:27] Speaker 3: have to come later. But so much of the focus
[10:30] Speaker 3: is going to be on Travis Hunter because we just
[10:32] Speaker 3: didn't see him be the two way star we all
[10:35] Speaker 3: thought he was going to be, And it seems like
[10:37] Speaker 3: now going forward, they are going to focus most of
[10:40] Speaker 3: their efforts on the defensive side of the ball.
[10:43] Speaker 5: For him.
[10:43] Speaker 3: That may be great in the long run, and I
[10:46] Speaker 3: think it's certainly what will benefit a defense that again
[10:49] Speaker 3: lost a few key players this offseason.
[10:51] Speaker 1: I mentioned that there may not be that surefire top
[10:54] Speaker 1: five type receiver in this draft. Maybe the most talented
[10:57] Speaker 1: guy is Jordan Tyson from Arizona's. Now there's been some
[11:01] Speaker 1: ups and downs in his game, also done with a
[11:02] Speaker 1: hamstring injury during the pre draft process. As ESPN report
[11:05] Speaker 1: earlier today. He's going to hold his own individual workout
[11:08] Speaker 1: day for NFL teams on Friday, April seventeenth, that is
[11:12] Speaker 1: just six days before the first round of the draft.
[11:16] Speaker 1: Francis Malui Noah, one of the top offensive linemen, had
[11:19] Speaker 1: his combine recheck today and according to our buddy Mike Garifolo,
[11:23] Speaker 1: checking in from a beach in Puerto Rico, everything came
[11:25] Speaker 1: back well as far as we know. Again, one of
[11:29] Speaker 1: the top prospects in the draft. Medical one of the
[11:31] Speaker 1: last things a lot of teams go through in this process.
[11:35] Speaker 1: Certainly that is part of the equation, not just from Malioa,
[11:37] Speaker 1: but others as well as we bring in our lands
[11:40] Speaker 1: zerline Lands tell me on both sides, this's what you've
[11:42] Speaker 1: heard on Maluinoa, how people are looking at that injury
[11:45] Speaker 1: and just what he is in terms of the quality
[11:48] Speaker 1: of a prospect.
[11:48] Speaker 7: Yeah, to start with, I have not heard any major concerns.
[11:52] Speaker 7: So whatever he had rechecked in terms of the considerations,
[11:56] Speaker 7: I don't think it's going to have any impact on
[11:58] Speaker 7: his standing.
[11:59] Speaker 8: You know.
[11:59] Speaker 7: The only thing that could have impact on his standing
[12:01] Speaker 7: in terms of if he were to fall just a
[12:03] Speaker 7: little bit would be the questions about whether or not
[12:06] Speaker 7: he's a right tackle or if he's a guard. He's
[12:08] Speaker 7: got thirty three inch arms. There are times you watch
[12:10] Speaker 7: and you think, boy, that looks like a pro Bowl guard.
[12:12] Speaker 7: But we know teams always will air on the side
[12:16] Speaker 7: of drafting the tackle rather than the guards. So I think,
[12:19] Speaker 7: I think what you're going to see is one of
[12:21] Speaker 7: the safest offensive linemen in this draft. Go inside the
[12:24] Speaker 7: first eight to nine picks, but my guess it'll be
[12:26] Speaker 7: closer to the top six picks. And I don't think
[12:28] Speaker 7: any of these injury issues and rechecks are going to
[12:31] Speaker 7: have any consideration on draft day.
[12:33] Speaker 1: All right, let's let's get to some of the teams
[12:36] Speaker 1: and have some pressure on their picks. They need to rebuild.
[12:39] Speaker 1: It a bunch of teams with two first round picks,
[12:41] Speaker 1: that includes the Jets. Take me inside from your perspective,
[12:44] Speaker 1: their needs and what they might try to accomplish here
[12:46] Speaker 1: in this draft. You know, the Jets.
[12:48] Speaker 7: Really need rush, but they need a lot. I mean,
[12:51] Speaker 7: there's a lot the Jets need. So what they need
[12:52] Speaker 7: to do is draft the best player, the most impactful
[12:55] Speaker 7: player long term they can find. And it's interesting because
[12:58] Speaker 7: I think they've got a lot of pressure because if
[13:00] Speaker 7: they draft Bailey and the freaky rvel Reas ends up
[13:04] Speaker 7: becoming the big time player in the Michael Parsons two
[13:06] Speaker 7: point zero boy, that's you know, it looks bad for
[13:09] Speaker 7: the rest of the you know, for the duration you
[13:11] Speaker 7: remember that way, if you draft the guy who doesn't
[13:14] Speaker 7: really have a set position yet Reese and Bailey's guy
[13:17] Speaker 7: that goes off as a pass rusher, that's a problem.
[13:20] Speaker 7: But it also it really spans beyond that. You're setting
[13:23] Speaker 7: yourself for next year's quarterback draft, which is what they're
[13:26] Speaker 7: going to do. So they need to feather that nest.
[13:28] Speaker 7: They need to do some nesting on that roster to
[13:31] Speaker 7: get ready for their their quarterback that they're going to
[13:33] Speaker 7: probably bring home next year. Now, I'll tell you another
[13:36] Speaker 7: team to Cleveland Browns. And anytime you have two picks
[13:38] Speaker 7: in the first round. We know the Cleveland Browns have
[13:40] Speaker 7: screwed that up in the past. Not this particular brand
[13:44] Speaker 7: of Cleveland Browns, but that has been an issue in
[13:46] Speaker 7: past drafts. When you have two drafts, you have a
[13:48] Speaker 7: chance to hit home runs or to be looked at
[13:50] Speaker 7: and scoffed at. In years, you know, in the future.
[13:53] Speaker 7: They've got pick number six. It's not the cleanest number
[13:56] Speaker 7: in this draft. I think six is a tricky position
[13:59] Speaker 7: based on the way the lies, but they have several
[14:02] Speaker 7: needs they must fix, and I think six has to
[14:05] Speaker 7: be a hit. You go all the way to twenty four.
[14:07] Speaker 7: There's a chance to address left tackle potentially if you
[14:10] Speaker 7: don't do it at number six, which might be a
[14:11] Speaker 7: little early, but you also have so many needs on
[14:14] Speaker 7: this roster that to me, this is something that you
[14:17] Speaker 7: have to hit at least to double this year on
[14:19] Speaker 7: your first two picks. And it's tough because it's not
[14:22] Speaker 7: the deepest draft that we've seen in the first round.
[14:24] Speaker 3: Right, Let's stick in the AFC North with the Baltimore Ravens.
[14:28] Speaker 3: They have eleven picks. There's an awful lot new in Baltimore.
[14:31] Speaker 3: Which way do you see them going?
[14:32] Speaker 7: Yeah, you know they have eleven picks. Four of them
[14:35] Speaker 7: are in the fifth round, so obviously you know they're
[14:37] Speaker 7: going to probably use that to wheel and deal and
[14:39] Speaker 7: move around. But when you talk about the Ravens, they
[14:43] Speaker 7: need to reassert themselves as the AFC's king of the North,
[14:47] Speaker 7: so to speak. And to do that, I think you're
[14:49] Speaker 7: going to have to find the right player on the
[14:52] Speaker 7: offensive side of the ball that helps to elevate that offense.
[14:55] Speaker 7: Once again, everything they do I think needs to be
[14:57] Speaker 7: complimentary towards towards your quarterback Lamar Jackson. Now, could they
[15:02] Speaker 7: go with an offensive lineman that's the that's the steady pick,
[15:05] Speaker 7: or could you go with Kenyon sadik as the explosive
[15:08] Speaker 7: tight end. So getting that first pick right, I think
[15:11] Speaker 7: is going to be very very important. And then the Saints,
[15:13] Speaker 7: speaking of getting the first pick right, and they have
[15:15] Speaker 7: three first they have three picks inside the top one hundred.
[15:18] Speaker 7: We know that, but you know they've got a good
[15:20] Speaker 7: young quarterback in Tyler Shuck. He was surprising to a
[15:23] Speaker 7: lot of people that were shocked he got drafted where
[15:25] Speaker 7: he did and then shocked that he played so well,
[15:28] Speaker 7: what are you going to do to help him?
[15:29] Speaker 4: That is a really.
[15:30] Speaker 7: Soft wide receiving core over there. Chris Olave needs help.
[15:34] Speaker 7: Tyler Shuck needs another weapon so that he can take
[15:37] Speaker 7: that next step in his growth. So I think finding
[15:40] Speaker 7: the right wide receiver at eight is going to be
[15:43] Speaker 7: critical for the same take and go in other directions.
[15:45] Speaker 7: But they need to find a wide receiver that comes
[15:47] Speaker 7: in and plays right away in this draft, Lance.
[15:50] Speaker 1: Great stuff. Do not move more from you in just
[15:52] Speaker 1: a little bit.
[15:53] Speaker 6: That is a list of our friend.
[15:55] Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks is top five safety prospects in the twenty
[15:59] Speaker 2: twenty six ANEL draft, which is fast approaching.
[16:01] Speaker 6: Caleb Down from Ohio State.
[16:03] Speaker 2: We know Kyle Lewis at number two from Pitt we
[16:07] Speaker 2: don't know quite as well. So we're going to get
[16:10] Speaker 2: to know him here on the Insiders. But before we do,
[16:13] Speaker 2: I'm going to bring in our buddy land zero Line,
[16:16] Speaker 2: our draft expert, to see if Lance can do us
[16:19] Speaker 2: a little favor. We'll look at that number two here.
[16:21] Speaker 2: Lance tell us about Kyle lewis.
[16:25] Speaker 7: Explosive downhill player. It's about speed, it's about versatility. He
[16:28] Speaker 7: could get into space and zone coverage, drop and hunt
[16:32] Speaker 7: the football. He can take it away six tough interceptions
[16:35] Speaker 7: the last couple of years. He can carry players vertically.
[16:37] Speaker 7: This is important because you can match them on tight ends,
[16:40] Speaker 7: you can match him on running backs, you can match
[16:41] Speaker 7: them on wide receivers. And then the speed. Look he's
[16:45] Speaker 7: getting a quarterback that's light work. Watching him get sidelined
[16:49] Speaker 7: to sideline is where he really shines and here's the
[16:51] Speaker 7: man himself, one of the fastest. I call him a linebacker.
[16:56] Speaker 7: He was number two on Bucky's safety list.
[16:59] Speaker 6: I call him a line are you Yeah?
[17:01] Speaker 2: So, Kyle, First of all, we want to get to
[17:02] Speaker 2: all this, including what position you actually play, if you
[17:05] Speaker 2: want to pigeonhole yourself, or how you want to end it.
[17:07] Speaker 2: But we'll get to that in a second. You heard
[17:09] Speaker 2: Lances breakdown of your play.
[17:12] Speaker 6: What do you think? What did he miss?
[17:15] Speaker 9: I feel like he said it all already, Like I
[17:16] Speaker 9: used my speed for my advantage. I use my versatility
[17:19] Speaker 9: for my advantage, and I just played a crassive I'm
[17:21] Speaker 9: trying to make play.
[17:22] Speaker 4: I'm trying to get the balls as best as I can.
[17:24] Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean versatility. You had one hundred and eighty
[17:26] Speaker 7: two tackles over the last two years. You had uh
[17:29] Speaker 7: I think it was twenty four. I believe on on
[17:32] Speaker 7: UH we're tackles for losses. You had ten sacks and
[17:36] Speaker 7: you had six interceptions. So you're making plays on their
[17:39] Speaker 7: side of the line of scrimmage. You're making plays right
[17:41] Speaker 7: at the line of scrimmage, and then you're making plays
[17:44] Speaker 7: on the second level. It gets to the versatility. What's
[17:47] Speaker 7: your mindset when you're out on the field in terms
[17:49] Speaker 7: of how you want to attack the football, because that's
[17:52] Speaker 7: a lot of production on three levels.
[17:54] Speaker 9: Yeah, so it's just not playing. It's a four to
[17:56] Speaker 9: three system. We real strict on that, and I'm the star.
[17:58] Speaker 9: So but being this, you got to be in the
[18:01] Speaker 9: past coverage, you got to be in the run gaps,
[18:03] Speaker 9: and you got.
[18:03] Speaker 4: To be in the blitzing scheme.
[18:04] Speaker 9: So I just got to be there for everything, and
[18:06] Speaker 9: I always got to step up and coach call.
[18:08] Speaker 2: My name, starking me a really really challenging role to
[18:11] Speaker 2: play on any defense. We were talking as you came in.
[18:14] Speaker 2: Are your safety? Are you a linebacker? Are you a
[18:17] Speaker 2: nickel defender? You've been on I'm sure plenty of zooms
[18:20] Speaker 2: with teams. You've had these conversations, where do you want
[18:23] Speaker 2: to play in the NFL?
[18:25] Speaker 9: I want to play and will linebacker, and I want
[18:27] Speaker 9: to play a big nickel and whatever you want to
[18:29] Speaker 9: call me.
[18:29] Speaker 4: Right now, all I know is I'm a ballplayer.
[18:31] Speaker 9: So I'm prepare for whatever position that coach got me in,
[18:34] Speaker 9: whatever system. All these coaches got me at different spots,
[18:37] Speaker 9: and I respect it and I'm just ready to get
[18:40] Speaker 9: to the next step show case.
[18:41] Speaker 4: I could play ball.
[18:42] Speaker 7: Yeah, your team captain, bigger energy guy on the field
[18:45] Speaker 7: watching you on tape, I mean that pops out right away,
[18:48] Speaker 7: There's no question. Pat Arduzi, your head coach, talked about
[18:51] Speaker 7: how you eat film, right, you're a film junkie. I
[18:53] Speaker 7: want you to give us an example of something that
[18:55] Speaker 7: you saw on tape this year where you said, aha,
[18:58] Speaker 7: I got you, and that you you used on Saturday,
[19:01] Speaker 7: an example of the way that you took the film
[19:04] Speaker 7: and made plays on Saturday. From that, what can you
[19:06] Speaker 7: remember that you did this year?
[19:07] Speaker 4: Yeah, showed one of the plays is West Virginia. West Virginia.
[19:11] Speaker 9: It was a lot of a lot of heavy run
[19:13] Speaker 9: team and then they like to do a lot of
[19:14] Speaker 9: flash protection to react off the run team and get
[19:17] Speaker 9: the linebackers downhill. So I just reacted fast off that
[19:20] Speaker 9: and off the flash protection and got full verts and
[19:23] Speaker 9: full verse with the option of the rob receiver doing
[19:25] Speaker 9: a comeback.
[19:25] Speaker 4: So I just underclid to comeback.
[19:27] Speaker 9: I should returned the four pick six, but I got
[19:30] Speaker 9: the fake though, talk my jersey.
[19:32] Speaker 2: I mean getting the pick is the number one thing,
[19:35] Speaker 2: the pick six, taking them to the crib that's that's
[19:38] Speaker 2: sort of the little extra you'll be forgiven for that.
[19:40] Speaker 2: But sweet play and certainly a example of why you
[19:44] Speaker 2: are the playmaker that you know a lot of people
[19:47] Speaker 2: expect to go off in the first two days of
[19:49] Speaker 2: this draft. I wanted to ask you about the draft.
[19:52] Speaker 2: You're a Pittsburgh guy. Pittsburgh guy. Now the draft is
[19:55] Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. We'll see where you end up going. But
[19:58] Speaker 2: what are your draft plans? And every year there's always
[20:02] Speaker 2: a couple of guys who make their way to the
[20:04] Speaker 2: draft and then on stage, even if it's not necessarily
[20:07] Speaker 2: night one, do you have any plans to you know,
[20:10] Speaker 2: stick around just in case.
[20:11] Speaker 9: I love Pittsburgh, but definitely going to be in Jersey.
[20:14] Speaker 9: So love to the family is I don't really get
[20:16] Speaker 9: that much time to be with the family, so definitely
[20:19] Speaker 9: be here so love this family and get great experience
[20:22] Speaker 9: with the family.
[20:22] Speaker 7: How do you think that's gonna go when they hear
[20:24] Speaker 7: when you hear your name called, you have family around you.
[20:28] Speaker 7: I know you thought about it. You've watched the NFL
[20:30] Speaker 7: draft in the past. If you envision what that's gonna
[20:32] Speaker 7: be like in your own living room and your own
[20:34] Speaker 7: with your own family around. What's that going to be
[20:36] Speaker 7: like for you?
[20:36] Speaker 4: Man?
[20:36] Speaker 9: My family going to show out for the camera. But
[20:40] Speaker 9: it's all gonna be good. It's gonna be love. I
[20:42] Speaker 9: just can't wait.
[20:43] Speaker 7: We're gonna be watching. I can't wait to watch and
[20:46] Speaker 7: see what the family looks like on Draft Day. It'll
[20:48] Speaker 7: be second round, by the way, he'll be out with
[20:50] Speaker 7: there you go.
[20:51] Speaker 2: I mean, that's one of my favorite things is watching
[20:52] Speaker 2: which family member tries to get like front and center
[20:55] Speaker 2: and they're like, none, his time.
[20:57] Speaker 6: Let him go. And then you're on the phone and
[20:59] Speaker 6: they're like.
[21:01] Speaker 2: I can't hear. So that scenario right there. Look, I
[21:04] Speaker 2: don't know. Well, I guess I'll ask you how long
[21:07] Speaker 2: did you know that having your name called the NFL
[21:12] Speaker 2: Draft was a possibility? And how much have you thought
[21:14] Speaker 2: about like that actual scene, you know, really coming true?
[21:18] Speaker 4: Since I stepped on Pittsburgh my first name.
[21:21] Speaker 9: That coach Doozy asked me when I was on official visitors,
[21:24] Speaker 9: what's your plans? Like, I'm just telling him I want
[21:26] Speaker 9: to go to the league and want to go to
[21:27] Speaker 9: the NFL. He told me that's it, and then he
[21:29] Speaker 9: opened my eyes. He like you got you got, Like
[21:32] Speaker 9: that's the bear.
[21:33] Speaker 4: Standard for you. You got so much more you could do.
[21:36] Speaker 9: And basically, like he was just telling, like, you gotta
[21:39] Speaker 9: be going specific with your goals. So when I tell
[21:41] Speaker 9: hometong go first round and that's when my goals started
[21:44] Speaker 9: to getting more actable.
[21:45] Speaker 7: Yeah, how much have you grown since you've been I
[21:48] Speaker 7: know you want to state championship in high school, so
[21:50] Speaker 7: you have that in your background. How much have you
[21:52] Speaker 7: grown since you've been with coach Mardozy and that defensive
[21:56] Speaker 7: staff over there, and from the time you came in
[21:59] Speaker 7: to the time you're talking to right now?
[22:00] Speaker 9: Oh, Matt, can't I measure how much I've grown? I've
[22:03] Speaker 9: grown so much in terms of just learning football because,
[22:07] Speaker 9: like you said, being a film junkie and going to
[22:10] Speaker 9: the fan room every morning before practice, at the practice
[22:13] Speaker 9: and just non stop twenty four to seven.
[22:15] Speaker 4: It just growed me every time.
[22:16] Speaker 9: So shout out to coach Doocie, Shots, Coach Many, all
[22:19] Speaker 9: the coaches that helped me get better and better with football.
[22:22] Speaker 6: A lot of people helped you get to where you're going.
[22:24] Speaker 2: Are going to be extremely excited in a couple of
[22:27] Speaker 2: weeks in Pittsburgh while you'll be in Jersey. God thank
[22:30] Speaker 2: you very much for joining us on the Insiders. Great
[22:32] Speaker 2: stuff and good luck over the next several weeks just
[22:36] Speaker 2: getting through it and enjoin it a little bit as well.
[22:38] Speaker 4: Yeah, I got y'all. Appreciate y'all.
[22:40] Speaker 2: I'll be looking for his family members when his name
[22:42] Speaker 2: is called. Can't wait for that one. This guy's name
[22:44] Speaker 2: will get called pretty early. That is for random windows
[22:47] Speaker 2: of the future starting quarterback of the Raiders. But when,
[22:50] Speaker 2: because that other guy also might play quarterback, we're going
[22:53] Speaker 2: to get into the Raiders with Omar and Baldi coming
[22:56] Speaker 2: up next.
[22:56] Speaker 3: On the Insiders, there's Kirk Cousins signing his contract with
[23:02] Speaker 3: the Las Vegas Raiders, where he is expected to be
[23:05] Speaker 3: joined by another quarterback in about two weeks or so,
[23:08] Speaker 3: one he might wind up mentoring. Here's Cousins on the
[23:11] Speaker 3: presumptive number one pick, Fernando Mendoza.
[23:15] Speaker 10: I think, honestly, I don't want to start unless I'm
[23:18] Speaker 10: the best option. So and I told you know, Clint
[23:20] Speaker 10: that best players should play. But certainly as long as
[23:26] Speaker 10: that's the case, you know, I have no qualms with
[23:28] Speaker 10: however it plays out. But I do think Fernando is
[23:30] Speaker 10: going to be a great addition to our team. I
[23:32] Speaker 10: think he's going to have a great future in the league.
[23:35] Speaker 10: You know, I have no problem, you know, being a
[23:37] Speaker 10: voice in the room to kind of help him the
[23:39] Speaker 10: degree that I can. He's gonna have great support all
[23:41] Speaker 10: around him, from the coaching staff or to the degree
[23:42] Speaker 10: that you know, being able to watch a veteran quarterback,
[23:45] Speaker 10: you know, go through his habits and routines and process.
[23:48] Speaker 10: I think, you know, that could be a great asset
[23:50] Speaker 10: for him. And he was here yesterday in his draft
[23:52] Speaker 10: day visit. Were able to watch film together, so you know,
[23:55] Speaker 10: I think he'll he'll be a great addition to the room.
[23:57] Speaker 10: And I was even telling him how much success he
[24:00] Speaker 10: had thrown back shoulders at IU that I'd like to
[24:02] Speaker 10: learn a little bit from him on how to throw
[24:04] Speaker 10: a good back shoulders.
[24:04] Speaker 4: So it'll be a noisy quarterback room.
[24:06] Speaker 10: We'll all be helping each other and we'll all be
[24:08] Speaker 10: pulling in the same direction, one.
[24:11] Speaker 3: Big, happy family. Let's bring in our Omar Rees and
[24:14] Speaker 3: Brian Baldinger.
[24:15] Speaker 1: They know the raiders up and down. Amore take it away, hey.
[24:19] Speaker 6: Judy Baldy.
[24:20] Speaker 11: I think one of the takeaways when Kirk Cousins was
[24:22] Speaker 11: introduced to the media yesterday was him citing Al Davis's quote,
[24:27] Speaker 11: the greatness of the Raiders lies.
[24:29] Speaker 6: In its future, and of course the future.
[24:32] Speaker 11: All indications are that Fernando Mendoza is going to be
[24:35] Speaker 11: joining Kirk Cousins in that quarterback room. We've had a
[24:38] Speaker 11: lot of discussion about how Kirk cousins presence as a
[24:41] Speaker 11: veteran mentor could help Fernando Mendoza's development, him learning the paybook,
[24:46] Speaker 11: and I think specifically because of Cousins his relationship with
[24:49] Speaker 11: Clint Kubiak. Of course, they worked for three years together
[24:52] Speaker 11: in Minnesota. Twice. Clink Kubiak was the quarterback coach for
[24:57] Speaker 11: Kirk Cousins in nineteen and in twenty and then he
[24:59] Speaker 11: was this play caller in twenty twenty one as offensive
[25:03] Speaker 11: coordinator in Mike Zimmer's last year there. So Kirk Cousins
[25:06] Speaker 11: knows how the offense is meant to look, he knows
[25:09] Speaker 11: how good it can be. But in the last four years,
[25:13] Speaker 11: Clink Kubiak's been at different spots.
[25:15] Speaker 1: He went to Denver, picks up.
[25:16] Speaker 11: Some things from Nathaniel Hackett, how he worked with Aaron Rodgers,
[25:20] Speaker 11: and he went with Kyle Shanahan to the San Francisco
[25:22] Speaker 11: forty nine ers and of course the New Orleans Saints
[25:25] Speaker 11: and last year wins the Super Bowl with the Seahawks.
[25:27] Speaker 11: So because the offense has evolved and changed to the point,
[25:31] Speaker 11: like Kirk Cousins mentioned, the way all good coaches do.
[25:34] Speaker 11: With Kubiak, Cousins says, he's going to learn this offense
[25:38] Speaker 11: from the ground up like a rookie would. So if
[25:41] Speaker 11: and when Mendoza comes into the building, comes into the
[25:44] Speaker 11: quarterback room, he'll be able to teach it from.
[25:46] Speaker 1: The ground up the way he's learning it right now.
[25:48] Speaker 12: And I think Clink Kubiak in the organization has to
[25:51] Speaker 12: have a plan for Mendoza to start. And that means,
[25:55] Speaker 12: you know, whether it's splitting reps appropriately or preseason game
[26:00] Speaker 12: or scrimmages where he gets a chance, because if he's ready,
[26:03] Speaker 12: like Kirk said, if he's ready and he's ready to
[26:06] Speaker 12: go week one, that he's got to be out there.
[26:07] Speaker 12: Otherwise Kirk Cousins is stealing reps. But if Kirk Cousins
[26:11] Speaker 12: is the best option for the team, and you can
[26:13] Speaker 12: never lie to the team o more well, if he
[26:15] Speaker 12: is the best option for the team to win Week one, okay,
[26:18] Speaker 12: then You've got an experienced player right there, a guy
[26:20] Speaker 12: that finished very strong last year in Atlanta and looked
[26:23] Speaker 12: like Kirk Cousins in some of those games in the
[26:26] Speaker 12: final month. But I think you've got to have the
[26:28] Speaker 12: plan for Fernando to be the starter until you just
[26:32] Speaker 12: see that Kirk is just further along.
[26:34] Speaker 11: And you mentioned the team. Clint Kubiak spoke to the
[26:37] Speaker 11: team this week. Obviously they're in the building now with
[26:39] Speaker 11: the offseason program, and Kirk Cousin's saying that is what
[26:42] Speaker 11: Clint Kubiak preached.
[26:44] Speaker 6: It is team first.
[26:45] Speaker 11: He wants them to have a shocking effort, but everything
[26:47] Speaker 11: is about the team. And Kirk Cousins saying the best
[26:50] Speaker 11: quarterback rooms that he's been.
[26:51] Speaker 1: A part of have led to his best seasons.
[26:54] Speaker 4: Now.
[26:54] Speaker 11: Whether he is on the field to play at a
[26:57] Speaker 11: high level still remains to be seen, but it's sounds
[27:00] Speaker 11: like he is more than willing to mentor Fernando Mendoza
[27:05] Speaker 11: and have that harmonious relationship as they get this offense
[27:08] Speaker 11: established under Klint Kubie.
[27:09] Speaker 12: You know, I was really impressed when they brought in
[27:11] Speaker 12: Rick Dennison to be the offensive line coach. Joe Decamills
[27:14] Speaker 12: to be the special teams coach because they have to
[27:16] Speaker 12: get Ashton Genty going like he really struggled last year.
[27:19] Speaker 12: He had two big games, a lot of games where
[27:22] Speaker 12: he was just avoiding contact just to get to the
[27:24] Speaker 12: line of scrimmage. But I think Rick Dennison understands the
[27:28] Speaker 12: zone blocking scheme. They've got a couple of new offensive
[27:30] Speaker 12: linemen that they've picked up in free agency. Will probably
[27:33] Speaker 12: look forward to the draft. I'm sure they're going to
[27:35] Speaker 12: spend some of their picks on offensive linemen. They've got
[27:37] Speaker 12: to get the best five guys up there. But I
[27:39] Speaker 12: think Rick Dennison coaching this system, and it is a
[27:42] Speaker 12: system going back to Mike Shanahan in Denver. I'm anxious
[27:45] Speaker 12: to see Ashton Genty's contribution this year and if he
[27:48] Speaker 12: makes that sophomore leap that we expect from him.
[27:51] Speaker 11: We talked about the scheme, Judy, we talked about the playbook,
[27:53] Speaker 11: but also Kirk kuzz has that experience.
[27:55] Speaker 6: Obviously.
[27:56] Speaker 11: They brought in Michael Pennix Junior a couple of years
[27:58] Speaker 11: ago in Atlanta, so saw what that looked like. He
[28:01] Speaker 11: was a part of the Washington franchise when they took
[28:05] Speaker 11: RG three as the number two pick, so we know
[28:07] Speaker 11: is what it looks like when a quarterback comes into
[28:08] Speaker 11: his rookie year, all the pressure to help Mendoza out
[28:12] Speaker 11: as well.
[28:12] Speaker 1: For that, guys, thank you.
[28:13] Speaker 3: We should also point out, Omar, you are going to
[28:15] Speaker 3: be with the Raiders for the drafts, that we are
[28:17] Speaker 3: going to be hearing a lot more from you about
[28:20] Speaker 3: Fernando Mendoza and all things Raiders, and we're going to
[28:23] Speaker 3: be hearing a lot more from Baldy.
[28:24] Speaker 1: Fourteen days away, the NFL Draft kicks off in the
[28:29] Speaker 1: city of Pittsburgh, April twenty third, live here on NFL Network,
[28:34] Speaker 1: ESPN and beyond. Cannot wait for that, cannot wait to
[28:38] Speaker 1: talk once again with our guy Brian Baldinger here on
[28:41] Speaker 1: The Insiders with me Tom Peliserah, let's take it into
[28:43] Speaker 1: the running backs a little bit here, Baldy. So we
[28:45] Speaker 1: talked a ton about the Notre Dame guys. Jeremiah Loves
[28:48] Speaker 1: going to be a top ten pick. Jenerian Price might
[28:50] Speaker 1: not go out of the first round either. Once you
[28:52] Speaker 1: get past those guys, tell me about some of those
[28:54] Speaker 1: other running backs that intrigue as we get into Day two, Tom,
[28:57] Speaker 1: the moment I stepped on the field and Senior Bowl.
[28:59] Speaker 12: This year, I had a town scout saying that Mike
[29:02] Speaker 12: Washington junior is the best running back at the Senior Bowl,
[29:06] Speaker 12: and he might be the best running back in the draft.
[29:07] Speaker 12: And then he went to the combine and he ran
[29:09] Speaker 12: a four three three forty at two hundred and twenty
[29:12] Speaker 12: five pounds, Like.
[29:13] Speaker 1: You just see, that's what he is. He's a bruiser
[29:15] Speaker 1: with breakaway speed. He's a big back.
[29:18] Speaker 12: You know, he went to the University of Buffalo, he's
[29:19] Speaker 12: at New Mexico, but when he got to Arkansas he
[29:22] Speaker 12: put it all together. And this is a guy that
[29:26] Speaker 12: can make guys miss. But he's got that home run
[29:28] Speaker 12: hitting speed to him, and you get him to the
[29:31] Speaker 12: open field, he might be a guy that can just
[29:33] Speaker 12: finish finish runs. The next guy is is Emma Johnson
[29:38] Speaker 12: from Nebraska. Three year player at Nebraska. The family story
[29:42] Speaker 12: is amazing. His father, you know, was emigrated to this
[29:45] Speaker 12: country during the Civil War, but he came and he
[29:48] Speaker 12: really lit up Matt rules system.
[29:50] Speaker 1: And I think this.
[29:51] Speaker 12: Year he broke out at almost fifteen hundred yards rushing.
[29:54] Speaker 12: He is a complete player. He can make you miss
[29:57] Speaker 12: in a phone booth like his ability just to put
[29:59] Speaker 12: you in a deep freeze, stop, start, all those kind
[30:02] Speaker 12: of things. He's quicker than fast, but he is got
[30:05] Speaker 12: great vision. He's got all the intangibles you need. This
[30:09] Speaker 12: was his final game against Iowa, which might have been
[30:12] Speaker 12: his best game.
[30:13] Speaker 1: And then finally this demand.
[30:14] Speaker 12: Clayborne from Wake Forest had really a strong final two years.
[30:19] Speaker 12: In fact, Maurice Showings due right here in this network
[30:22] Speaker 12: said he's the second best running back in this entire
[30:24] Speaker 12: draft right now. And so when you look at Demond
[30:27] Speaker 12: Claiborne out of the Wake Force, the Demon Deacons, he
[30:30] Speaker 12: really had two really good seasons together. He's about five
[30:33] Speaker 12: to ten, one hundred and ninety five pounds. Might not
[30:36] Speaker 12: be the pounder that you look for, but.
[30:37] Speaker 1: He's got this.
[30:38] Speaker 12: He's got this contact balance, he's got this ability to
[30:42] Speaker 12: find space and daylight. And he also caught I believe
[30:46] Speaker 12: he caught fifty one passes the last two years. And
[30:48] Speaker 12: everybody's always wondering, can you be a three down back?
[30:51] Speaker 4: Can you catch the screen?
[30:52] Speaker 12: Can you catch the checkdown? He's got that the ability
[30:55] Speaker 12: to stay on the field, make those catches, extend those drives.
[30:59] Speaker 12: I think this is a pretty good running back class.
[31:01] Speaker 12: I think the two Notre Dame backs are really really talented. Obviously,
[31:05] Speaker 12: Jeremiah Love is not going to wait long for his
[31:08] Speaker 12: name to be called, but look for Embittt, Mike Washington
[31:11] Speaker 12: Junior and demand to be called here on day two.
[31:14] Speaker 1: Also might not be the most depth we've had at
[31:16] Speaker 1: the running back position, So if you want to get
[31:17] Speaker 1: one of those guys, you may need to move sooner
[31:20] Speaker 1: than later. Folding, great stuff. As always, we'll talk to
[31:22] Speaker 1: you again soon, Judy.
[31:23] Speaker 3: All right, let's talk some top thirty visits. Usc wide
[31:26] Speaker 3: receiver Makai Lemon among the Steelers pre draft visitors today.
[31:30] Speaker 3: They've already added Michael Pittman to their wide receiver room,
[31:34] Speaker 3: but certainly could use more. How about the Miami Dolphins.
[31:39] Speaker 3: No Jalen Model, no Tyreek Hill, but could they have
[31:42] Speaker 3: Casey Conception own He is making a visit there. They
[31:46] Speaker 3: of course have two picks in the first round. And finally,
[31:51] Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers, that is a team.
[31:53] Speaker 1: Clearly on the rise.
[31:54] Speaker 3: Denzel Boston is paying them a visit as well. The
[31:59] Speaker 3: Panthers have the number nineteen pick. We're going to switch
[32:03] Speaker 3: over to the other side of the ball because our
[32:05] Speaker 3: friends at path to the draft. Have a lot of
[32:07] Speaker 3: thoughts on where the edge rushers should land, where they
[32:10] Speaker 3: think they will land. Here's Rhett Lewis, Bucky Brooks, and
[32:14] Speaker 3: Cynthia Freeland.
[32:16] Speaker 13: Red Lewis, Bucky Brooks, Cynthia Freeland back here finding some
[32:18] Speaker 13: franchise fits for these d linemen in the green room,
[32:21] Speaker 13: Bucky starting with David Bailey.
[32:24] Speaker 14: Oh this is easy, David Bailey, Ben, come on, get
[32:27] Speaker 14: In't there the player? We want to make sure we
[32:29] Speaker 14: give them somewhere we can have plenty of opportunities to
[32:31] Speaker 14: get after the passer, So we're gonna send them to
[32:34] Speaker 14: the Jets. Jests, Jets jests. I think about Aaron Glenn
[32:37] Speaker 14: trying to replicate what he had worked for successfully for
[32:41] Speaker 14: him in Detroit, had head Aiden Hutcheson, let's get it
[32:44] Speaker 14: dominant pastor.
[32:44] Speaker 4: As you're coming off to edge to set the toe
[32:46] Speaker 4: for this defense.
[32:47] Speaker 1: David Bailey can be that in New York.
[32:49] Speaker 12: Okay, I love that one.
[32:51] Speaker 1: Ruben Bain Junior gree teeth.
[32:54] Speaker 6: I'm like real impressed with his teeth.
[32:55] Speaker 15: I didn't know how good they were, but I'm looking
[32:57] Speaker 15: at him, and then I'm trying to find the Saints.
[32:59] Speaker 2: Where are they read there?
[33:00] Speaker 15: I love the opportunity to put the Saints, who had
[33:04] Speaker 15: the twenty first ranked pressure defense with the guy who
[33:07] Speaker 15: had the most pressures in FBS last year.
[33:09] Speaker 6: That's a I mean, I think.
[33:10] Speaker 1: That'd be a lot of fun match made in Heaven
[33:12] Speaker 1: right there. Top ten pick for Bain. How about now
[33:15] Speaker 1: Keldrick Fock from Auburn here.
[33:18] Speaker 14: Bucky, okay, we can put Keldrick Fault with the New
[33:20] Speaker 14: England Patriots. And if you understand the Patriots and how
[33:24] Speaker 14: they typically get down, they like versatility. They like being
[33:26] Speaker 14: able to change their fronts from four to three to
[33:28] Speaker 14: three four. Well, that takes versatile players to be able
[33:31] Speaker 14: to do that. When I think about his big body
[33:33] Speaker 14: being able to come inside the way he stops to
[33:35] Speaker 14: run like he did for the Auburn Tigers, man, he
[33:38] Speaker 14: has all of those traits that allow him to be
[33:40] Speaker 14: a strong base in and a four to three, a
[33:42] Speaker 14: strong five technique in a three four. I just see
[33:45] Speaker 14: him as a Patriot because of his versatility.
[33:47] Speaker 13: It does fit like the traditional size phototype.
[33:53] Speaker 15: Pounds and like no smile, you're not allowed to smile
[33:56] Speaker 15: on the.
[33:59] Speaker 6: US all business.
[34:00] Speaker 13: Yeah, no fun, sir, Okay, Cayden McDonald has actually been
[34:04] Speaker 13: an intriguing pick that has been mocked to the Patriots
[34:07] Speaker 13: at times here throughout this season when you got a
[34:09] Speaker 13: bone earlier to the Buffalo back, I stop the run?
[34:12] Speaker 15: Anyone want to stop the run? You know the Bills
[34:13] Speaker 15: are changing up their defense. But this is a team
[34:16] Speaker 15: that last year, what was the number one hundred and
[34:18] Speaker 15: thirty six point two rushing yards per game allowed? That's
[34:21] Speaker 15: a lot, Just so we're clear, It's twenty eighth in
[34:23] Speaker 15: the NFL. And this is the guy who had a
[34:25] Speaker 15: ninety one point two PFF run defense grade that was
[34:28] Speaker 15: the best among the position in FBS. So you are
[34:31] Speaker 15: giving them a literal monster in the middle of the
[34:34] Speaker 15: and he's got a smile. You're allowed to smile in Buffalo. Okay,
[34:37] Speaker 15: that's actually I mean ask you know Dean Dawkins, he
[34:39] Speaker 15: smiles a lot, so I think he'd have a lot
[34:41] Speaker 15: of fun out there.
[34:41] Speaker 13: And you know he could play in the cold.
[34:43] Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'm into that as well. All right, so
[34:45] Speaker 1: it does make sense.
[34:46] Speaker 4: I like to fit.
[34:47] Speaker 6: It is never too early to drop a little fantasy knowledge.
[34:50] Speaker 2: Let's go inside with the NFL fantasy allowed with our
[34:52] Speaker 2: guy Michael f Florio, So Furio. We got the draft
[34:56] Speaker 2: coming up in two weeks. I want to play a
[34:57] Speaker 2: little game with you. I want to mention a team,
[35:00] Speaker 2: and I want you to tell me the best fantasy
[35:02] Speaker 2: situation for that team. In other words, who am I
[35:05] Speaker 2: going to have to draft next year? All right, We'll
[35:07] Speaker 2: start at number seven with the Washington Commanders.
[35:10] Speaker 7: What do you foresee there?
[35:12] Speaker 8: I think they go out and they get the best
[35:15] Speaker 8: weapon in this year's draft.
[35:17] Speaker 6: In Jeremiah Love at seven overall.
[35:21] Speaker 8: Look, good luck to opposing defenses trying to guard him
[35:25] Speaker 8: and Jaden running the option and Love he lives up
[35:28] Speaker 8: to the billing right, great vision, footwork first, tremendous long speed.
[35:32] Speaker 8: I will very much so be a home run hitter
[35:35] Speaker 8: at the next level. He could catch passes, which you
[35:37] Speaker 8: want from a fantasy running back. The only concern I
[35:41] Speaker 8: have with him is the short yard work, like could
[35:43] Speaker 8: that go to another running back? Kind of like we
[35:45] Speaker 8: saw Tyler Els year take from Bijon Robinson. But my
[35:48] Speaker 8: com for him was a faster Le'Veon bell And if
[35:51] Speaker 8: he ends up here or let's say like Tennessee at
[35:54] Speaker 8: fourth overall, if you want him in fantasy, be prepared
[35:57] Speaker 8: to use an early second round pick, or maybe even
[36:00] Speaker 8: a first like we saw Ashton Gents go for last year.
[36:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no way if he goes that early, which
[36:06] Speaker 2: he probably will, or maybe even earlier, no chance he's
[36:09] Speaker 2: the second round pick that his first round pick all
[36:10] Speaker 2: day long.
[36:11] Speaker 6: What about the New Orleans Saints they pick a number eight.
[36:16] Speaker 6: Are they going defense?
[36:17] Speaker 2: No way, not going defense, because you wouldn't be high
[36:20] Speaker 2: leg and defensive fantasy guy.
[36:21] Speaker 4: No, I would not be.
[36:22] Speaker 1: I'm offense all the time.
[36:24] Speaker 8: I think they take though, my personal wide receiver one,
[36:27] Speaker 8: which is Jordan Tyson out of ASU. When you watch
[36:31] Speaker 8: Tyson play, the size jumps out immediately. He is a
[36:34] Speaker 8: field stretcher, contested catch guy. He can catch anything. The
[36:38] Speaker 8: catch radius is off the charts. But while he could
[36:41] Speaker 8: win downfield the contested catches, I also think he could
[36:44] Speaker 8: win inside.
[36:45] Speaker 4: And after the catch.
[36:46] Speaker 8: I prefer him out wide though he would just give
[36:49] Speaker 8: Tyler Schuck and the Saints a reliable second target.
[36:52] Speaker 1: Him and Olave could move all over the field.
[36:54] Speaker 8: That allows a love to play in the slot, which
[36:56] Speaker 8: is where I think he's at his best. I comped
[36:58] Speaker 8: him to Oldell Beckham Junior, but for fantasy, I think
[37:01] Speaker 8: he would be in the wide receiver three ranks, but
[37:04] Speaker 8: he is the upside in this landing spot to finish
[37:07] Speaker 8: as a top twenty four wide receiver if things were
[37:09] Speaker 8: to break right for him in the Saints.
[37:11] Speaker 2: If the Saints taking the one, that means they won't
[37:13] Speaker 2: take Chris Bell and the third, and all Saints fans
[37:15] Speaker 2: will be angry, But then again, they'll also have a
[37:16] Speaker 2: very good player. What about the Kansas City Chiefs. Their
[37:19] Speaker 2: ride receiver room has been, you know, a challenge the
[37:22] Speaker 2: last couple of years. Where do you see them going?
[37:24] Speaker 8: I think this is a one A, one B type
[37:26] Speaker 8: of class with the wide receivers. So one pick after Tyson,
[37:30] Speaker 8: let's go Carnal Tate to the Chiefs, who, like you said, Ian,
[37:33] Speaker 8: they have really been searching for consistent wide receiver production.
[37:37] Speaker 8: And Tate is an uber, reliable receiver with vice gript hands.
[37:41] Speaker 8: He could work the sideline. Is a field stretcher. The
[37:44] Speaker 8: Chiefs have had receivers who could stretch the fields. They've
[37:46] Speaker 8: had possession receivers, but never all in one package.
[37:50] Speaker 6: And I think he reminded me of.
[37:51] Speaker 8: T Higgins or like a bigger Terry McLaurin, but target
[37:54] Speaker 8: competition in Mahomes' health likesly keeps him as a wide
[37:57] Speaker 8: receiver three. But he could easily see that as the
[38:01] Speaker 8: season went on.
[38:01] Speaker 2: All right, to the Miami Dolphins, the last team I
[38:03] Speaker 2: got for you obviously traded Jalen Model. Everybody. Everybody thinks
[38:07] Speaker 2: they are going receiver at twelve.
[38:09] Speaker 8: What do you think I'm saying wide receiver Makai Lemon,
[38:14] Speaker 8: who I think put good tape out at USC. My
[38:17] Speaker 8: only issue is I think he was used a lot
[38:20] Speaker 8: more limitedly than the other two wide receivers, a lot
[38:23] Speaker 8: of short yard catch and run targets. He did show
[38:27] Speaker 8: he could win downfield when given a chance, but while
[38:29] Speaker 8: watching him, it felt a lot like watching the Bills
[38:32] Speaker 8: us Kalilshakire last year, where you just want some more
[38:34] Speaker 8: downfield stuff. But the Dolphins are the best case landing
[38:37] Speaker 8: spot for him. Tons of volume up for grab. We've
[38:39] Speaker 8: seen Jalen Wattle excel in this system. He would be
[38:42] Speaker 8: like a reserve round pick in fantasy drafts, but definitely
[38:46] Speaker 8: a dart throw we're taking because he brings a high
[38:49] Speaker 8: ceiling for fantasy.
[38:50] Speaker 2: All right, you're so good. We got a bonus team
[38:52] Speaker 2: for you. Cleveland Browns have two picks. Where are they
[38:56] Speaker 2: going to go and help my fantasy team?
[38:58] Speaker 6: And which of their two first are going to be.
[39:01] Speaker 8: I don't think they take a receiver at six, but
[39:03] Speaker 8: at twenty three. Denzel Boston is a name to watch
[39:07] Speaker 8: because one, the Browns need receiver help. We know that,
[39:12] Speaker 8: and Boston is a big bodied receiver who could stretch
[39:16] Speaker 8: the field debit win contesta catches will be a really
[39:18] Speaker 8: big weapon for them in the red zone. He reminded
[39:21] Speaker 8: me of Roma Doonesa while watching him. I do think
[39:24] Speaker 8: though he would be boom or bust year one, especially
[39:27] Speaker 8: giving the Browns quarterback play, but there would be some
[39:30] Speaker 8: big weeks there. He'd be in later round pick a
[39:32] Speaker 8: better and best ball type, but still reasons to get
[39:35] Speaker 8: excited for him, both in fantasy.
[39:37] Speaker 6: Or if you are a Browns fan and this ends
[39:38] Speaker 6: up being the fit.
[39:39] Speaker 2: I will take any fantasy advice I get, mostly because
[39:42] Speaker 2: I'm terrible at it.
[39:43] Speaker 6: Let me next, yar, I'll be better.
[39:44] Speaker 2: So new year, FOURIO, great stuff, Thank you very much,
[39:47] Speaker 2: always awesome hanging out with you.
[39:49] Speaker 6: Two weeks to go for the draft, Plenty of places
[39:52] Speaker 6: to get your news not really only here. This is
[39:55] Speaker 6: the only place to get all the news.
[39:57] Speaker 2: The insiders money through Friday's seventh and if you look closely,
[40:01] Speaker 2: I'm all the way in the back of that picture.
[40:05] Speaker 1: Some news are on the NFL cornerback Chase Lucas agreed
[40:08] Speaker 1: it turns on a one year deal with the Bucks,
[40:10] Speaker 1: scoring to Mike Garafolo. Lucas spent last season with the
[40:14] Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, who unveiled a new jersey Pats for
[40:17] Speaker 1: their eightieth anniversary. That's not for Jerry Rice. No eighty years,
[40:22] Speaker 1: though I'm sure Jerry will be there to wear one. Meanwhile,
[40:25] Speaker 1: the Ravens set to unveil their new uniforms next Thursday.
[40:29] Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport primary home colors should be purple, white, black,
[40:34] Speaker 1: gold or other purple.
[40:36] Speaker 2: This isn't really a question, right, Everyone agrees on purple, Right, Judy,
[40:39] Speaker 2: it's been.
[40:39] Speaker 1: Black forever, Judy, No purple, all purple, purple, purple.
[40:44] Speaker 6: Embrace it, Tom a lot of black such a you
[40:47] Speaker 6: know whatever you are.
[40:49] Speaker 1: I say, all gold head to toe? Why not some
[40:52] Speaker 1: BM Tomorrow we'll say that the game

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