# The Insiders Podcast: Patrick Mahomes contract extension, Lamar Jackson contract negotiations, and Seahawks defensive tackle Leonard Williams joins the Insiders

An episode of [NFL: The Insiders](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1543090622), 11 Jun 2026, 43 min.

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Patrick Claybon joins NFL Network Insiders Mike Garafolo, Ian Rapoport and Judy Battista to share the biggest news of the day, including Patrick Mahomes blockbuster contract extension, the latest on Lamar Jackson's contract negotiations, and updates on DeShaun Watson's health. Then, Steve Wyche interviews Seahawks defensive tackle Leonard Williams and Michael F. Florio previews the fantasy impact of key minicamp position battles. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:08] Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks say they're not running it back, They're
[0:11] Speaker 1: running it forward, and look at what that looks like.
[0:14] Speaker 1: Coming up at a live report from Steve Weis today
[0:16] Speaker 1: from Seahawks camp, and who wins the starting jobs at
[0:19] Speaker 1: some of the most hotly contested running back spots so
[0:22] Speaker 1: you can get them on your fantasy roster. Michael f
[0:24] Speaker 1: Florio has answers to those questions for you, and Jalen
[0:27] Speaker 1: Hurts and the Eagles back at work without a certain
[0:30] Speaker 1: big target. So just how much changes in Philly? That
[0:34] Speaker 1: and so much more coming up on this edition of
[0:36] Speaker 1: The Insiders. Everybody, Welcome to this Wednesday edition of The
[0:40] Speaker 1: Insider's Patrick Clayboune. Here in the nfl LA newsroom, these
[0:42] Speaker 1: are your Insiders. Mike Garolfollo, Ian Rappaport, and Judy Battista.
[0:46] Speaker 1: Ian had some news today, which is what we will
[0:49] Speaker 1: start with. New right now coming into the nfl LA newsroom,
[0:52] Speaker 1: per Ian and ESPN's Adam Schefter. The Kansas City Chiefs
[0:56] Speaker 1: adding two years to Patrick Mahomes's contract, which can take
[0:59] Speaker 1: his toll will value up to over five hundred million dollars.
[1:05] Speaker 1: Chairman and CEO of the Chiefs Clark Hunt said in
[1:08] Speaker 1: part in a statement, Patrick is a generational talent and
[1:11] Speaker 1: an elite human being, says he's excited to continue to
[1:16] Speaker 1: have him lead their team into the future. So a
[1:20] Speaker 1: lot of new money on this he and how this
[1:21] Speaker 1: deal come.
[1:22] Speaker 2: Together, and this something that has been in the works
[1:25] Speaker 2: for the last several weeks and months for the Kansas
[1:28] Speaker 2: City Chiefs to reward their superstar quarterback, Patrick Mahomes. You
[1:32] Speaker 2: went over the numbers and they are eye popping, but
[1:35] Speaker 2: they are not the entire story in this contract extension
[1:38] Speaker 2: that I reported with along with Adam Schefter. First, the
[1:41] Speaker 2: numbers though first deal ever in NFL history to total
[1:44] Speaker 2: over a half of billion dollars five hundred and four
[1:48] Speaker 2: five million dollars over the next eight seasons, a deal
[1:51] Speaker 2: to runs through twenty thirty three, nearly two hundred and
[1:55] Speaker 2: forty million dollars in new money and the new money
[1:58] Speaker 2: average the average new money is sixty four million dollars,
[2:02] Speaker 2: creating a new benchmark. In this deal done by his
[2:04] Speaker 2: agent Chris Cabin and Brett Beach, the Kansas City Chiefs
[2:07] Speaker 2: general manager, five hundred and twenty two million dollars. It
[2:11] Speaker 2: could be with incentives all Patrick. Considering that Patrick Mahomes
[2:15] Speaker 2: is recovering from a torn acl and lcal we have
[2:18] Speaker 2: seen him on the field.
[2:19] Speaker 1: He looks like he is doing incredibly well.
[2:22] Speaker 2: This is a big time vote of confidence health wise
[2:25] Speaker 2: and otherwise for their superstar.
[2:27] Speaker 1: Yeah, folks are thinking at home, let me get that money.
[2:29] Speaker 1: It's an easy process. You just got to win three
[2:31] Speaker 1: Super Bowls, get MVPs in all of them, and have
[2:33] Speaker 1: two season long MVPs. A relatively simple thing that gets
[2:36] Speaker 1: you on this list. One of the largest contracts in
[2:39] Speaker 1: all sports cont Wan Sotos fifteen years, seven hundred and
[2:43] Speaker 1: sixty five. Some of these fully guaranteed. Show Hey gets
[2:45] Speaker 1: ten for seven hundred million. It's really an accomplishment that
[2:49] Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes makes his way onto the list.
[2:52] Speaker 3: Value could be up to five.
[2:53] Speaker 1: Hundred and four million dollars. Speaking of two time MVPs,
[2:56] Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and the Ravens at Mini Caamp, adding Decklan
[2:59] Speaker 1: Doyle's name to the list of teams getting new off
[3:02] Speaker 1: of of coordinators and getting glowing praise from players to
[3:06] Speaker 1: saw scenes.
[3:08] Speaker 4: I believe I took a lot of strives in the
[3:11] Speaker 4: right direction this week.
[3:12] Speaker 1: This past week.
[3:13] Speaker 4: It's a different system that I'm accustomed to being in
[3:17] Speaker 4: and I feel like it's gonna be a lot of
[3:18] Speaker 4: exposive explosiveness going on this year because the way Deck
[3:23] Speaker 4: cost plays in his creativity with his mind and how
[3:25] Speaker 4: detailed he is, it's like mind blowing. So I'm excited
[3:30] Speaker 4: have been China right now. It's a new system. A
[3:34] Speaker 4: lot of terminology within this system. Nothing really transitioned over
[3:37] Speaker 4: from the last system, just like before, because we had
[3:40] Speaker 4: certain things when we was with Monkey, we brought some
[3:43] Speaker 4: things up from Gero system, you know, what I was
[3:45] Speaker 4: comfortable with, what a lot of guys were comfortable with.
[3:47] Speaker 4: But in this system, it's different. You know, it's all Deck,
[3:49] Speaker 4: and I feel like everybody's hands on, you know, with
[3:52] Speaker 4: doubt there. I feel like our coaches is like one
[3:55] Speaker 4: of us in a sense, you know, because we had
[3:58] Speaker 4: you know, coach Jesse here back like twenty eighteen, stuff
[4:01] Speaker 4: like that early on, and he was like he wasn't new.
[4:06] Speaker 1: It was new to me, but he wasn't really new,
[4:07] Speaker 1: but I really didn't see him.
[4:09] Speaker 4: But now I'm seeing him every day and the like
[4:10] Speaker 4: how you coaching and how you know, how on point
[4:12] Speaker 4: he is with know the scheme, schematics, of the defense
[4:16] Speaker 4: is like, bro, it's is awesome.
[4:17] Speaker 1: Have It's awesome.
[4:18] Speaker 5: Had it's finling right now.
[4:20] Speaker 1: And Michael will start with you that it's not. Just
[4:22] Speaker 1: a lot of guys have glowing praise for Declan Doyle
[4:25] Speaker 1: there with the Ravens.
[4:27] Speaker 6: And it started.
[4:28] Speaker 7: It's been a quick assent for Declan Doyle and it
[4:29] Speaker 7: started last year with the Bears. Ben Johnson getting the
[4:33] Speaker 7: bulk of the credit in Chicago and rightly so for
[4:36] Speaker 7: what he's done as an offensive mind over the last
[4:39] Speaker 7: few seasons, going back to this time as the coordinator
[4:42] Speaker 7: for the Lions, but Declan Doyle high praise from those
[4:46] Speaker 7: that have worked with him, those that have worked alongside
[4:50] Speaker 7: him or gotten to know him through his time in
[4:53] Speaker 7: the NFL period.
[4:56] Speaker 6: This is I mean, you're looking for the next.
[4:58] Speaker 7: Offensive mind who's going to be on a rocket ship
[5:02] Speaker 7: into a head coach.
[5:03] Speaker 6: This is the opportunity for.
[5:04] Speaker 7: Him, and partly because of how selective he was, I mean,
[5:08] Speaker 7: he had interest from a number of teams as an
[5:10] Speaker 7: offensive coordinator candidate, but he wanted to make sure that
[5:14] Speaker 7: it was the right situation. Actually turned down some opportunities
[5:16] Speaker 7: and this one felt right to him. So yeah, Lamar
[5:19] Speaker 7: if it's blowing your mind, He's blown a lot of
[5:21] Speaker 7: people's minds. And it's not just going to be about
[5:23] Speaker 7: doing things to make Lamar comfortable. It's getting Lamar in
[5:27] Speaker 7: tune with what he wants to do offensively and sort
[5:30] Speaker 7: of merge that. And obviously you want to make sure
[5:32] Speaker 7: you're doing things that are going to make your quarterback
[5:35] Speaker 7: or at least take advantage of his skill set as
[5:37] Speaker 7: much as possible. But this is one of the more
[5:39] Speaker 7: fascinating pairings in the league this season because this could
[5:42] Speaker 7: really result in some explosive things offensively in Baltimore, Judy.
[5:48] Speaker 8: Well, this team needed a refresh on offense. The entire
[5:52] Speaker 8: team underperformed last season. Obviously they missed the playoffs, but
[5:56] Speaker 8: the offense really underperformed. They were twenty seventh in passing offense.
[6:01] Speaker 8: They averaged a six point four yards per pass attempt.
[6:05] Speaker 8: Now a big piece of that, of course, is that
[6:07] Speaker 8: Lamar only played thirteen games, So anytime Lamar is not
[6:11] Speaker 8: on the field, the offense is not going to perform
[6:14] Speaker 8: up to where you think they are. But there was
[6:17] Speaker 8: more than that. Even when he was on the field,
[6:19] Speaker 8: they were simply not as explosive. They were not getting
[6:21] Speaker 8: the kind of chunk plays that you see really successful
[6:25] Speaker 8: offenses do in the NFL.
[6:27] Speaker 9: Now, that is what they are clearly looking for. Here's
[6:29] Speaker 9: another piece of it.
[6:30] Speaker 8: Who emerges deeper down the depth chart on the wide
[6:34] Speaker 8: receivers beyond Zay Flowers and Rashaun Bateman, who emerges as
[6:38] Speaker 8: the number three receiver. They've got some young guys on
[6:41] Speaker 8: the roster. Will they emerge, will they seize the job,
[6:44] Speaker 8: or could they go out at some point in the
[6:47] Speaker 8: summer and get one of the big name veteran wide
[6:50] Speaker 8: receivers who are still available on the market. We'll see
[6:53] Speaker 8: how it falls into place, but certainly there are very
[6:57] Speaker 8: big expectations for the Baltimore Ravens team early and especially
[7:01] Speaker 8: for that offense.
[7:02] Speaker 1: Expectations for things to perhaps be a little different this
[7:05] Speaker 1: time around. Ian with the contract we just talked about
[7:07] Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes getting years added on, how different can things
[7:10] Speaker 1: be for the Ravens and Lamar Jackson this summer?
[7:14] Speaker 2: Right, Patrick Mahomes gets a record setting, groundbreaking contract extension.
[7:19] Speaker 2: Of course, the next question has to be how close
[7:21] Speaker 2: can Lamar Jackson get to his contract extension. Here's the thing,
[7:25] Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson's situation is different for a couple of reasons.
[7:28] Speaker 2: First of all, he's got two years left on his contract,
[7:30] Speaker 2: make it about fifty two million dollars this year, so
[7:32] Speaker 2: not really thirsty for a new contract. The team has
[7:35] Speaker 2: already restructured his deal for cap reasons, and I would
[7:38] Speaker 2: say not always, but generally, when a team restructures a
[7:42] Speaker 2: player's deal, you don't often see a player then get
[7:45] Speaker 2: a contract extension. It could happen, certainly, the Baltimore Ravens
[7:49] Speaker 2: and Lamar Jackson have discussed it.
[7:50] Speaker 1: You just don't often see it.
[7:52] Speaker 2: And then what Judy and Miken talked about a little
[7:54] Speaker 2: bit of a down year for the Baltimore Ravens offense
[7:57] Speaker 2: was fuller mar two. Availability wasn't great, he didn't play great.
[8:00] Speaker 2: Not the kind of year you want to go into
[8:03] Speaker 2: and then discuss a new contract. All which is to say,
[8:07] Speaker 2: would not be surprised if he goes out and kills
[8:09] Speaker 2: it this year and then cashes in during the next
[8:13] Speaker 2: offseason rather than this coming offseason.
[8:16] Speaker 1: Yeah, sixty two touchdowns, eleven interceptions the last two years.
[8:19] Speaker 1: We'll see what number Lamar gets close to. Let's go
[8:22] Speaker 1: elsewhere in the division. It's a coach. Lamar just talked
[8:25] Speaker 1: about Todd Mulkin, now the head coach of the Cleveland
[8:28] Speaker 1: brown saying earlier this week after mini camp, he's still
[8:32] Speaker 1: not going to announce the starting quarterback, so the battle
[8:34] Speaker 1: continues between Shador Sanders and Deshaun Watson, both of them
[8:38] Speaker 1: speaking about that competition this week.
[8:41] Speaker 10: I think the way how y'all look at things is
[8:43] Speaker 10: different in how we look at things. We look at
[8:46] Speaker 10: coming to practice every day, being the best player we
[8:48] Speaker 10: can be as an individual and as a good teammate.
[8:52] Speaker 10: Y'all look at it as like a competition. It's like,
[8:55] Speaker 10: I don't really that's not really nothing. I'm just focused on.
[8:58] Speaker 10: I'm focused on the up in as a player, like
[9:01] Speaker 10: doing everything, getting as comfortable as I can in the
[9:04] Speaker 10: offense and the scheme, and playing with that confidence I had.
[9:08] Speaker 10: So I think that's all I'm really looking for and
[9:11] Speaker 10: trying to improve every day, whether it is mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually,
[9:17] Speaker 10: Like I'm just trying to be a better person every
[9:19] Speaker 10: day and wherever that falls into place will fall into place.
[9:22] Speaker 11: Anytime you get the opportunity to play in the National
[9:24] Speaker 11: Football League is a honor, so you know, I don't
[9:28] Speaker 11: take it for granted. You know, I work hard to
[9:30] Speaker 11: do what I need to do each and every day
[9:32] Speaker 11: to try to try to put out the best product
[9:35] Speaker 11: I can on the field.
[9:36] Speaker 1: That's certainly two different ways to view this, the growth
[9:39] Speaker 1: of Shador Sanders versus I guess the antithesis of the
[9:42] Speaker 1: kind of step back to Shan Watson. So how do
[9:44] Speaker 1: you view this quarterback circumstance right now, Judy, Well.
[9:48] Speaker 8: First of all, I think it's really interesting that Todd Munkin,
[9:51] Speaker 8: who had been saying all spring that he was going
[9:53] Speaker 8: to name a starting quarterback for the season by the
[9:56] Speaker 8: end of the spring, is not.
[9:58] Speaker 9: Going to do it.
[9:58] Speaker 8: So that obviously suggests neither of these two have separated
[10:02] Speaker 8: themselves in the competition. This was the first time we've
[10:05] Speaker 8: heard from Deshaun Watson since he was injured in twenty
[10:09] Speaker 8: twenty four. He said a few really interesting things, especially
[10:12] Speaker 8: related to his health. First of all, he said he
[10:14] Speaker 8: feels one hundred percent. He thinks he's one hundred percent
[10:16] Speaker 8: healthy right now. He also said he has not been
[10:20] Speaker 8: he had not been fully healthy since early in the
[10:22] Speaker 8: twenty twenty three season when he first hurt his shoulder,
[10:25] Speaker 8: that he had not been okay since then, so that
[10:28] Speaker 8: obviously tells you he thinks that.
[10:30] Speaker 9: Impacted his performance.
[10:32] Speaker 8: He also said he feels really comfortable in Todd Monkin's offense,
[10:36] Speaker 8: in part because it puts a lot of responsibility on
[10:39] Speaker 8: the quarterback position. He said that is what he had
[10:42] Speaker 8: in Houston. He of course thrived in Houston, that was
[10:45] Speaker 8: before the trade back.
[10:47] Speaker 9: In twenty twenty.
[10:48] Speaker 8: He was asked, wouldn't it be great to be able
[10:50] Speaker 8: to replicate that twenty twenty season.
[10:51] Speaker 9: He says, I'm not trying to do that.
[10:53] Speaker 8: He was also asked where would you like to be
[10:55] Speaker 8: in twenty twenty seven. Where do you envision yourself and
[10:57] Speaker 8: he said, I am sort of laughed and he said,
[11:00] Speaker 8: I'm just trying to get through an entire season. I
[11:01] Speaker 8: just want to be able to play a full seventeen
[11:03] Speaker 8: game season. So certainly this competition is maybe closer right
[11:07] Speaker 8: now than Todd Monkin anticipated it was going to be.
[11:10] Speaker 9: It's going to go all the way into training camp.
[11:13] Speaker 2: And go go back to what you said, Judy about
[11:16] Speaker 2: so much being put on the quarterback.
[11:17] Speaker 1: That does bode well.
[11:18] Speaker 2: For Deshaun Watson. And the reality is to me, at
[11:21] Speaker 2: least if Deshaun Watson is a Cleveland Browns starting quarterback
[11:24] Speaker 2: to begin this season. That is okay, and in some
[11:27] Speaker 2: ways that's kind of the best case scenario because you
[11:29] Speaker 2: still don't know exactly what you have in Shadoor him
[11:32] Speaker 2: sitting and waiting and learning. He's got some playing time,
[11:35] Speaker 2: but him sitting waiting and learning is not the worst
[11:37] Speaker 2: thing in the world.
[11:38] Speaker 1: And you really would.
[11:39] Speaker 2: Like to see what the future holds for Deshaun Watson.
[11:43] Speaker 2: And he mentioned some of the reasons why we have
[11:45] Speaker 2: not seen a lot from him. He has not been healthy,
[11:48] Speaker 2: certainly not lately, and when he has played, he has
[11:51] Speaker 2: been hampered by.
[11:52] Speaker 1: Some of those injuries.
[11:53] Speaker 2: How good can he be and can he be the
[11:56] Speaker 2: quarterback that the Cleveland Browns thought they traded for like
[11:59] Speaker 2: five years ago.
[12:00] Speaker 1: The answer is maybe maybe. I wouldn't be.
[12:03] Speaker 2: Surprised in the end if he ends up as the
[12:05] Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns starting quarterback and if he plays himself into
[12:08] Speaker 2: being the starter for twenty twenty seven, well that only
[12:11] Speaker 2: adds the fascinating situation for Cleveland Mike.
[12:15] Speaker 7: Deshaun Watson was asked today about Jimmy Haslin, the owner
[12:18] Speaker 7: of the brown saying that they had the swing and
[12:20] Speaker 7: a miss, and here's my favorite party says one of
[12:22] Speaker 7: my favorite baseball players I've been.
[12:23] Speaker 6: Watching is Bryce harper Ian take that.
[12:27] Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been sometimes he swings, but he stands back up,
[12:30] Speaker 7: gets another opportunity.
[12:31] Speaker 6: I'm not done rubbing it in and he hits a
[12:33] Speaker 6: home run. We've got a lot of that against the Mets. Yes, yes,
[12:37] Speaker 6: he does me hard.
[12:38] Speaker 12: She was.
[12:39] Speaker 7: That's what Watson the Wats. That's what Watson plans on doing.
[12:43] Speaker 7: The backswort against the wall at this point, I mean,
[12:45] Speaker 7: it's been there was a trade, the big guaranteed contract,
[12:49] Speaker 7: which didn't sit well with the rest of the league.
[12:51] Speaker 6: And owners who were worried that there would now be
[12:53] Speaker 6: a precedent that was set. Obviously that one was discussed.
[12:57] Speaker 7: There was the off the field situation that a lot
[12:59] Speaker 7: of people still have not forgotten. There's the Achilles injury,
[13:02] Speaker 7: and then there's the owner saying what he said. You
[13:05] Speaker 7: don't want to hear that if you're one of the
[13:06] Speaker 7: players on the team, particularly if you're in the quarterback.
[13:08] Speaker 6: So Deshaun Watson.
[13:11] Speaker 7: Maybe taking a step away, not through his own volition,
[13:14] Speaker 7: but because of the torn achilles and maybe trying to
[13:17] Speaker 7: reset here.
[13:18] Speaker 1: This is it.
[13:18] Speaker 6: I mean, this is his last opportunity.
[13:20] Speaker 7: And frankly, Patrick, I don't know that anybody thought he
[13:22] Speaker 7: would get this opportunity, maybe including Jimmy Haslam, who then
[13:27] Speaker 7: backtracked that at one point said well, we're not necessarily
[13:29] Speaker 7: done with him, but at one point didn't make it
[13:31] Speaker 7: seeing that they were done with them.
[13:32] Speaker 6: Let's see.
[13:33] Speaker 7: I mean, it's one of the fascinating stories in that
[13:35] Speaker 7: Cleveland Browns quarterback room, and there's plenty of them.
[13:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, Judy mentioned the injuries, but he was at or
[13:41] Speaker 1: near the bottom in almost every statistical category during his
[13:44] Speaker 1: last senior as a starter for the Cleveland Browns. We
[13:47] Speaker 1: will leave the AFC North and go over to the
[13:50] Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks starting they're moved forward again.
[13:56] Speaker 1: Mike Max says, they're not trying to run it back,
[13:58] Speaker 1: They're pushing forward. This is a new team with a
[14:01] Speaker 1: new season and an opportunity for us to look at
[14:04] Speaker 1: the Seahawks as they got their mandatory mini camp going
[14:07] Speaker 1: on today with our Steve Weisch who joins us from
[14:10] Speaker 1: written Washington today. And I want to say now that
[14:13] Speaker 1: I get a chance to see Steve, congratulations on your
[14:16] Speaker 1: induction into the Black College Football Hall of Fame Class
[14:20] Speaker 1: of twenty twenty six. Glad to see you. How different
[14:22] Speaker 1: are things going to be as these guys are trying
[14:25] Speaker 1: to now win another Super Bowl?
[14:29] Speaker 13: Well, first off, thanks a lot Patrick for you saying
[14:31] Speaker 13: that I really do appreciate everything that the network has
[14:33] Speaker 13: done in regards to that. Let's start off how things
[14:37] Speaker 13: win in mini camp today. Today was a jog through,
[14:39] Speaker 13: just a quick hour long workout. But when you talk
[14:41] Speaker 13: about things being different, the one new element is rookie
[14:44] Speaker 13: running back Jadarian Price. And even though it was a
[14:47] Speaker 13: jog through, there were times you sawm stickers foot in
[14:49] Speaker 13: the ground and the suddenness was there. Head coach Mike
[14:52] Speaker 13: McDonald told me all off season, you've seen the athletic
[14:55] Speaker 13: things that he can do, and especially what they would
[14:58] Speaker 13: caught their attention is how he catches the ball. He
[15:00] Speaker 13: only had fifteen catches at three seasons at Notre Dame,
[15:03] Speaker 13: but he's shown an awful lot in that regard. Now,
[15:06] Speaker 13: they wrap things up at their mini camp on Thursday,
[15:09] Speaker 13: but the big thing is in the final practice. It
[15:11] Speaker 13: is Thursday night when they have their ring ceremony where
[15:14] Speaker 13: they'll be getting their Super Bowl rings. They're trying to
[15:16] Speaker 13: keep the details of that very private. But what won't
[15:19] Speaker 13: be private, guys, and this is more of the spoils
[15:22] Speaker 13: of them being Super Bowl champions, is they're going to
[15:24] Speaker 13: be on HBO's Hard Knocks this year, and the Hard
[15:26] Speaker 13: Knocks crews have been in the team facility the past
[15:29] Speaker 13: few days preparing for when the team comes back to
[15:32] Speaker 13: training camp in late June and preparing all parties for
[15:35] Speaker 13: what they can expect.
[15:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, part of winning that Super Bowl is how great
[15:39] Speaker 1: the defense played. A lot of folks, myself included, felt
[15:42] Speaker 1: von Witherspoon had a chance to be the Super Bowl
[15:44] Speaker 1: MVP with how he played. Does he have a chance?
[15:46] Speaker 1: How close are they in contract talks for him to
[15:48] Speaker 1: get a new deal and stay in Seattle.
[15:51] Speaker 13: Well, I was told that they were working on it
[15:53] Speaker 13: by someone here with the Seahawks, and they see pretty
[15:55] Speaker 13: optimistic that maybe by the time they get to training
[15:57] Speaker 13: camp they can get something done Withtherspoon, who's kind of
[16:01] Speaker 13: that multi pronged hybrid defender, has been a Pro bowler
[16:04] Speaker 13: in each of his first three seasons. He was the
[16:07] Speaker 13: number five overall draft pick in twenty twenty three and
[16:10] Speaker 13: he's seeing the number twenty draft pick in that draft.
[16:13] Speaker 1: His teammate Jackson.
[16:14] Speaker 13: Smith and Jigba signed a four year, one hundred and
[16:16] Speaker 13: sixty eight million dollar extension this offseason. Now those numbers
[16:20] Speaker 13: won't be that high, but if you're looking for cops,
[16:22] Speaker 13: go to Los Angeles with the Rams just gave Trent
[16:24] Speaker 13: McDuffie a four year, one hundred and twenty four million
[16:27] Speaker 13: dollar extension and also maybe the thirty million dollar apy
[16:31] Speaker 13: type of contracts that the Colt Sauce Gardner or Derek
[16:35] Speaker 13: Stingley from the Texans received a year ago.
[16:37] Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of marquee corners and the Seahawks had
[16:39] Speaker 1: to let go of their other corner as well in
[16:42] Speaker 1: free agency, so we'll see what the push is like
[16:44] Speaker 1: for Witherspoon. Steve wis there with the Seattle Seahawks again.
[16:47] Speaker 1: Congratulations Steve. We've got a one on one interview with
[16:50] Speaker 1: the Big Cat Leonard Williams and Steve coming up here
[16:53] Speaker 1: on the Insiders Show, rolling on just what are things
[16:58] Speaker 1: going to be like with AJ Brown and the New
[17:02] Speaker 1: England Patriots. Glowing praise from one of the most notable
[17:05] Speaker 1: important players on the Patriots team is coming up as
[17:09] Speaker 1: well as Jonathan Taylor and the Indianapolis Colts. He has
[17:14] Speaker 1: big plans in Indianapolis. How long can he be there?
[17:18] Speaker 1: He tells you how long he wants to be there
[17:20] Speaker 1: when we come back on the Insiders right here on
[17:22] Speaker 1: NFL Network. We are back here on the Insiders on
[17:33] Speaker 1: NFL Network. Loved launching news segments here is the thesis
[17:36] Speaker 1: behind rapid reacts because we have two valuable resources here.
[17:40] Speaker 1: We have this newsroom and a whole bunch of sound
[17:42] Speaker 1: and information to come in, and we have our insiders.
[17:45] Speaker 1: So what we're going to do is listen to some
[17:46] Speaker 1: sound and have our insiders react and contextualize the things
[17:50] Speaker 1: that you hear on TV, because that's what we do.
[17:53] Speaker 1: Will start in Indianapolis. Jonathan Taylor going into the final
[17:56] Speaker 1: year of his deal, the Colts coming off back to
[17:59] Speaker 1: back Pro Bowls. For they're running back averaging over fifteen
[18:02] Speaker 1: hundred yards rushing. But he has goals that are far
[18:06] Speaker 1: more than just statistical.
[18:09] Speaker 3: I'd definitely love to be a cult for life.
[18:10] Speaker 12: I think I've already expressed that to them throughout the years.
[18:14] Speaker 12: Just from college coming here. You grow up in college
[18:18] Speaker 12: a little bit to a young man and then now
[18:21] Speaker 12: growing into like an adult. This is like a third
[18:24] Speaker 12: home of mine. So I've definitely expressed that and hopefully
[18:27] Speaker 12: they feel the same, because this is it's a special place.
[18:30] Speaker 12: Not every building is like this, and I've heard some
[18:32] Speaker 12: stories now, especially from guys coming from other places, and
[18:35] Speaker 12: it's not.
[18:35] Speaker 6: Like this everywhere.
[18:38] Speaker 2: Jonthan Taylor certainly has grown up and been through it
[18:41] Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, had a very contentious contract situation several years ago.
[18:46] Speaker 2: Now entering the final year of his deal for the
[18:48] Speaker 2: Indnapolis coach, says he wants to be a member.
[18:49] Speaker 1: Of the coach for life.
[18:51] Speaker 2: In order for that to happen, he's going to need
[18:52] Speaker 2: a new deal. Set to make about thirteen or so
[18:55] Speaker 2: million dollars this year, obviously wants a new deal. The
[18:58] Speaker 2: fact that he showed up is at least a good
[19:00] Speaker 2: signed them. Maybe the coach will talk to him about it.
[19:03] Speaker 2: No doubt about it. He deserves a new deal. Meanwhile,
[19:07] Speaker 2: for his teammate Alec Pierce, he got a new deal,
[19:09] Speaker 2: had to go to free agency to get it, but
[19:11] Speaker 2: he got a huge one hundred and fourteen million dollar
[19:14] Speaker 2: new contract and then had ankle surgery. Alec Pierce faces
[19:18] Speaker 2: a four to six month recovering from ankle surgery. Tried
[19:21] Speaker 2: to just do rehab, tried to figure it out. Surgery
[19:24] Speaker 2: was the only way they could possibly get into heal.
[19:26] Speaker 2: He could miss or say likely miss the start of
[19:29] Speaker 2: training camp.
[19:30] Speaker 1: They believe he will be.
[19:31] Speaker 2: Ready though for the season. That being said, the contract
[19:34] Speaker 2: is for the long Let's.
[19:35] Speaker 1: Go so the Packers. Tucker Craft number four in the
[19:39] Speaker 1: league in yards after the catch before he tore his
[19:42] Speaker 1: ACL in Week nine. That wasn't just among tight ends,
[19:45] Speaker 1: among everyone, he was number four in the league. He
[19:47] Speaker 1: updates his recovery timeline such a big piece of the Packers'
[19:51] Speaker 1: offense this week.
[19:53] Speaker 14: Starting the starting camp on the puff and coming off camp,
[19:56] Speaker 14: My anticipation is, you know, they don't really want to
[19:59] Speaker 14: talk out of injuries and stuff, but with how I feel,
[20:03] Speaker 14: I would say, I'm going to get all the conditioning
[20:05] Speaker 14: I need in camp to start week one on no
[20:07] Speaker 14: pitch count, and.
[20:09] Speaker 6: It's great news for the Green Bay Packers there.
[20:11] Speaker 7: Now, there's a difference between not being on a pitch
[20:13] Speaker 7: count and being one hundred percent all the way back
[20:15] Speaker 7: from an injury. It's going to be within a calendar year,
[20:18] Speaker 7: and most athletic trainers or doctors will tell you, no,
[20:21] Speaker 7: he's not going to be one hundred percent, but he'll
[20:22] Speaker 7: be close to that. And my understanding is this rehab
[20:24] Speaker 7: is going extremely well. We're seeing some rehabs around the
[20:27] Speaker 7: league that are not, so this is a great indication
[20:30] Speaker 7: from Tucker Craft that again maybe not one hundred percent,
[20:33] Speaker 7: but close enough and.
[20:34] Speaker 6: Not going to be limited come week one. I agree
[20:36] Speaker 6: that's going to be the case.
[20:38] Speaker 1: David Bailey taking number two overall by the Jets and
[20:41] Speaker 1: this year's draft after a great season of Texas set
[20:44] Speaker 1: and so far as head coach sees the stuff that
[20:47] Speaker 1: he saw when Bailey played for the Red Raiders.
[20:51] Speaker 15: The first step quickness is something that pops off the
[20:53] Speaker 15: tape like immediately. You do see the moves that he's
[20:58] Speaker 15: trying to create. And this is the time when you
[21:00] Speaker 15: want to work on some things that you know you
[21:02] Speaker 15: might not feel as comfortable with. This is time to
[21:04] Speaker 15: work on those things. So he's working on some of
[21:07] Speaker 15: his weaknesses, but you do see the strong points of
[21:10] Speaker 15: what he has and and I don't want him to
[21:13] Speaker 15: lose sight of that of the things that we know
[21:15] Speaker 15: that he can do, but this is the time to
[21:19] Speaker 15: work on things that you want to get better at,
[21:20] Speaker 15: and that's what we're focused on with him, is man,
[21:23] Speaker 15: let's make sure we use the speed rush that you have,
[21:27] Speaker 15: but also understand that you get rush for power and
[21:29] Speaker 15: you have a spin move that can be pretty deadly
[21:32] Speaker 15: in his arsenal.
[21:34] Speaker 9: Well, one thing is clear.
[21:35] Speaker 8: They are not going to ease David Bailey, and Aaron
[21:38] Speaker 8: Glenn has come out and said he's going to be
[21:40] Speaker 8: a starting outside linebacker when they're in the three four
[21:42] Speaker 8: and when they are using four down linemen. He is
[21:45] Speaker 8: going to be a starting defensive end.
[21:48] Speaker 9: So he is going to get the full load.
[21:50] Speaker 8: There were questions coming out of college about how his
[21:52] Speaker 8: run defense would be. Aaron Glenn is that he's got
[21:54] Speaker 8: no concerns about his ability to set the edge. Harrison
[21:57] Speaker 8: Phillips said today, he flies around so much, you are
[22:00] Speaker 8: sure he can fly after other players. We are going
[22:03] Speaker 8: to see a lot of David Bailey this season.
[22:06] Speaker 1: Here's what's now today coming into the nfl LA newsroom,
[22:08] Speaker 1: the Chiefs making some changes to Patrick Mahomes contract. Per
[22:11] Speaker 1: NFL Networking sider Ian Rappaport and ESPN's Adam Scheffer, They're
[22:15] Speaker 1: going to add two years of new money could be
[22:17] Speaker 1: worth up to two hundred and thirty nine million dollars.
[22:20] Speaker 1: Chiefs their tweetings good day, then Chiefs Kingdom elsewhere in
[22:25] Speaker 1: the AFC, and his last action for the Browns quarterback
[22:27] Speaker 1: butshn Watson was not very good in the bottom of
[22:31] Speaker 1: several categories. He's in a battle for quarterback. Says it's
[22:34] Speaker 1: the first time he's been healthy since all the way
[22:36] Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty three. Not trying to replicate his
[22:39] Speaker 1: last successful season, which was back in twenty twenty, says
[22:42] Speaker 1: he is a different player. Maliku Neighbors season ended in
[22:45] Speaker 1: Week four with a torn ACL didn't have a surgery
[22:48] Speaker 1: toil late October. New head coach John Harbaugh updating neighbors
[22:52] Speaker 1: status this week.
[22:55] Speaker 5: I wasn't less optimistic before.
[22:57] Speaker 16: You know.
[22:57] Speaker 5: It's just like I said, I said, it's as a slog,
[23:01] Speaker 5: it's a grind. He's he's still in the middle of it.
[23:04] Speaker 5: It's still he's probably not in the middle of it now.
[23:06] Speaker 5: He's probably maybe seventy percent through, I don't know, something
[23:10] Speaker 5: like that, but he's eighty percent. You know. I'm very
[23:12] Speaker 5: hopeful that he'll be he'll be back soon. But I
[23:15] Speaker 5: also understand you know, he come back from a knee
[23:17] Speaker 5: there's going to be he could be. He'll be back,
[23:19] Speaker 5: and then he'll still be building his way back to
[23:21] Speaker 5: where he's, you know, his ultimate full strength self. So
[23:25] Speaker 5: but he's doing great. He's doing a great job. He's
[23:27] Speaker 5: made some real good progress in the last few.
[23:28] Speaker 1: Weeks back with Judy Batista, and I heard Coach Harbill
[23:32] Speaker 1: there responding to the question itself. Seemed like there were
[23:34] Speaker 1: some growing concerns in the area as people saw Neighbors.
[23:38] Speaker 1: It seems like it's a little more positive outlook this
[23:40] Speaker 1: summer up.
[23:42] Speaker 8: Well, I think it's John Harbaugh trying to be realistic
[23:45] Speaker 8: and maybe set expectations a little bit. He wants to
[23:48] Speaker 8: make clear they hope he is back for the start
[23:50] Speaker 8: of the season, but even if Molite Neighbors is on
[23:53] Speaker 8: the field for Week one, that is not going to
[23:55] Speaker 8: be the full Milite Neighbors that he will be after
[23:58] Speaker 8: he has built himself all the way back up. John
[24:02] Speaker 8: Harbaugh saying he's maybe seventy to eighty percent through with
[24:05] Speaker 8: the rehab, he kept calling it a grind, tells you
[24:09] Speaker 8: he's not all the way there yet. We're at the
[24:11] Speaker 8: end of mandatory mini camp. The thing to watch is
[24:14] Speaker 8: how do they bring him along in training camp? Where
[24:16] Speaker 8: is he when they open training camp in late July?
[24:19] Speaker 8: And again, keep in mind, whenever he gets on the field,
[24:23] Speaker 8: it is still not going to be the player he
[24:25] Speaker 8: will eventually be when he has built himself all the
[24:27] Speaker 8: way back.
[24:28] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's important to set expectations. I think people think
[24:30] Speaker 1: back to Adrian Peterson having the most successful ACL recovery
[24:33] Speaker 1: of all time being eight months. The expectations do need
[24:38] Speaker 1: to be relative. Let's look elsewhere on the roster caveon
[24:42] Speaker 1: Thibodeau getting a ton of trade speculation from outside the facility.
[24:46] Speaker 1: Here's what he's saying when asked about that at the
[24:49] Speaker 1: facility this week.
[24:51] Speaker 17: For me, I've never worried about what people think. I
[24:56] Speaker 17: want to be great too, So Tiger, if it ain't great,
[24:58] Speaker 17: trust me, I know, you know. So as far as
[25:01] Speaker 17: like everything around me, like I'm on a mission and
[25:05] Speaker 17: I'm aware enough to know what I got to continue
[25:07] Speaker 17: to get better at, and I'm humble enough to say like, hey,
[25:09] Speaker 17: help me, you know, help me find what things I
[25:11] Speaker 17: can do to get better or how I can do it.
[25:13] Speaker 17: So it's been great for me. Man, I'm happy. I'm
[25:15] Speaker 17: in a position where it's like, you know, if I
[25:17] Speaker 17: go play, great, God is good.
[25:20] Speaker 3: If I don't go play, great, God is still good.
[25:22] Speaker 17: You know, I've been able to accomplish my dream by
[25:25] Speaker 17: being here, and now it's just time to go take
[25:26] Speaker 17: everything that I deserve.
[25:28] Speaker 1: So Kavon focused on the things he could control. Ian
[25:31] Speaker 1: Rappaport back with us trade possibilities for Kaveon Thibodau. Where
[25:34] Speaker 1: the things stand right now?
[25:37] Speaker 2: My understanding is the trade possibility stand from slim to
[25:41] Speaker 2: none for keve On Thibodau now going into the draft,
[25:43] Speaker 2: but certainly worse some possibilities that Giants did receive some
[25:46] Speaker 2: calls from teams, including the New Orleans Saints. Giants had
[25:49] Speaker 2: a pretty high price on a young players do some money,
[25:53] Speaker 2: but not a ton of money.
[25:54] Speaker 1: Wanted a third rounder for Kaevon Thibodeau.
[25:57] Speaker 2: Did not get that and basically decided, Okay, we are
[26:00] Speaker 2: going to keep them. And I know that because the
[26:02] Speaker 2: Saints moved on to go trade for another player. Then
[26:06] Speaker 2: the Giants selected r bel Reese. They're going to play
[26:08] Speaker 2: him off the ball, not on the edge because they
[26:11] Speaker 2: have Thibodeau on the edge. All which to say a
[26:13] Speaker 2: long way around saying they have plans for Caveon Thibodeau.
[26:16] Speaker 2: They have plans for all of their super athletic defenders,
[26:20] Speaker 2: including reees, including Thibodeau. I expect them all to play
[26:22] Speaker 2: together this year, and then whatever happens after that, all
[26:26] Speaker 2: sides will figure it out.
[26:27] Speaker 1: And there's a lot of historical precedent for teams that
[26:29] Speaker 1: have depth at a particular position and have been able
[26:32] Speaker 1: to be successful not needing any apply that's okay elsewhere,
[26:35] Speaker 1: including a team that has gone a couple of Super Bowls,
[26:38] Speaker 1: one one of them, the Philadelphia Eagles. They're back at
[26:40] Speaker 1: mini camp this week, the first media availability for Jalen
[26:44] Speaker 1: Hurts since the trade of AJ Brown, and now I
[26:47] Speaker 1: guess Jalen Hurts time to get up there and answer
[26:51] Speaker 1: questions about AJ Brown, especially considering there was an interview
[26:54] Speaker 1: with Maria Taylor where AJ Brown said towards the end
[26:58] Speaker 1: they weren't as close as they once were. What Jalen
[27:01] Speaker 1: Hurts had to say in response to that.
[27:05] Speaker 18: I'm not in a place to challenge anyone's perspective on anything,
[27:12] Speaker 18: you know, Seemingly so it was, and that's that's that's
[27:21] Speaker 18: where I am I've always been focused on the collective.
[27:24] Speaker 18: I've always put my energy towards that, and as a leader,
[27:28] Speaker 18: I've always put a onus on giving maximum effort to
[27:33] Speaker 18: achieve the share mission we have in the team.
[27:36] Speaker 3: So is there any disappointment about the way his time here?
[27:39] Speaker 6: I do? You know, you come into it and.
[27:45] Speaker 18: You you have a sense of pride, and you know
[27:48] Speaker 18: how how it began, and definitely what we were able
[27:52] Speaker 18: to accomplish, you know, and in the same thing that
[27:55] Speaker 18: I said last time, nothing can take that away. So
[27:58] Speaker 18: for the great things that we did, know it's something
[28:01] Speaker 18: to focus on achieving great things with this new iteration
[28:04] Speaker 18: of the team.
[28:05] Speaker 1: Back now with mirk Aryl follow Eventually everyone will stop
[28:07] Speaker 1: asking about the relationships. It's an overall message. Everybody very
[28:10] Speaker 1: happy that they won the Super Bowl. It was a
[28:12] Speaker 1: great moment. So football wise, what changes for Jalen Hurts
[28:16] Speaker 1: and the Eagles now?
[28:17] Speaker 7: I would say the good news for Jalen Hurts has
[28:19] Speaker 7: no more questions about aj Brown until until mid August,
[28:25] Speaker 7: mid to late August, when they have the joint practices
[28:27] Speaker 7: with the Patriots up there in Foxborough.
[28:29] Speaker 6: That'll be the next time.
[28:31] Speaker 7: At some point It'll be about only about Hurts and
[28:35] Speaker 7: this offense and Sean Manyon is the new offensive coordinator
[28:38] Speaker 7: and how it's going to fit, and how they're going
[28:40] Speaker 7: to merge.
[28:41] Speaker 6: What Manion and that whole Shanahan.
[28:42] Speaker 7: Tree that he's a leaf off of will merge with
[28:46] Speaker 7: what Jalen Hurts likes to do and what he's comfortable doing.
[28:49] Speaker 6: And so the next time we.
[28:50] Speaker 7: Talk or hear from Jalen Hurts, I should say, next
[28:52] Speaker 7: time he talks to the media is going to be
[28:54] Speaker 7: during training camp, when those will be the questions, primarily
[28:57] Speaker 7: football questions.
[29:00] Speaker 6: We'll be watching every single day.
[29:01] Speaker 7: We'll be, you know, tracking some of us will be
[29:03] Speaker 7: tracking the stats, training camp stats. My favorite SATs, how
[29:07] Speaker 7: many times the ball hit the ground, all that good stuff,
[29:09] Speaker 7: because we want to see how comfortable he is.
[29:11] Speaker 6: Probably won't see him bunch of the preseason.
[29:13] Speaker 7: Nick Sirianni hasn't been playing his starters, but that'll be
[29:15] Speaker 7: the storyline the next time Jalen hurt speaks to the media.
[29:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, and not to debate the passing stats from training camp,
[29:21] Speaker 1: because all his football dorks are drilling into that over
[29:25] Speaker 1: and over again. Because that's it. That's why we were
[29:27] Speaker 1: doing the show that's why you guys are watching. We
[29:29] Speaker 1: appreciate that. Mike gear follow on the Philadelphia Eagles. Let's
[29:32] Speaker 1: go to the Seattle Seahawks, coming off of their Super
[29:35] Speaker 1: Bowl champions they're Sam Darnold defending champs, holding mini camp
[29:39] Speaker 1: today and tomorrow. On the defensive side, runner off defensive
[29:42] Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year Nikki min Warre says he's trying
[29:44] Speaker 1: to evolve his game. His teammate Leonard Williams going one
[29:48] Speaker 1: on one with our Steve White.
[29:51] Speaker 13: All right, Leonard came out there a little fun even
[29:53] Speaker 13: so you line up like you're gonna man up Cooper
[29:54] Speaker 13: Cup there in the slot.
[29:57] Speaker 6: But as fun as you may be, right now, you are.
[30:00] Speaker 3: Super Bowl champs.
[30:02] Speaker 13: Man, is there a difference in the approach this offseason
[30:05] Speaker 13: in previous years?
[30:06] Speaker 16: I would say there's no difference. That's something that actually
[30:08] Speaker 16: we've been harping on a lot is starting from the ground,
[30:11] Speaker 16: just how we did last year. We talked about climbing
[30:14] Speaker 16: that mountain and playing in the death zone, which is
[30:16] Speaker 16: like what we harp on our style of football is
[30:18] Speaker 16: playing in the dead zone. There's a lot more details
[30:21] Speaker 16: that go involved with that, obviously, but we're talking about
[30:23] Speaker 16: starting at the bottom of the mountain all over again.
[30:25] Speaker 3: And why is that important?
[30:27] Speaker 13: Because you look at this roster, there wasn't significant personnel change.
[30:30] Speaker 13: A lot of times teams win a Super Bowl and
[30:31] Speaker 13: they lose a lot of guys to other teams. How
[30:34] Speaker 13: important is it for you guys to stay fresh knowing
[30:37] Speaker 13: that you're pretty much roster intact.
[30:39] Speaker 16: I mean, I think that's a big part of it. Obviously,
[30:41] Speaker 16: is you know, keeping a lot of our roster the same.
[30:44] Speaker 16: You know, we have a lot of the same guys
[30:45] Speaker 16: that we went all the way with last year. But
[30:48] Speaker 16: I think bigger the than the you know who's on
[30:52] Speaker 16: the players, Bigger than the players that are here, I
[30:55] Speaker 16: would say, it's the culture. So keeping that culture alive
[30:58] Speaker 16: is what's going to take us to that to where
[31:00] Speaker 16: we want to go again. And I think that's that's
[31:02] Speaker 16: the biggest thing.
[31:03] Speaker 13: Defensively, you guys are so good last year and a
[31:06] Speaker 13: lot of folks may say, like, yeah, they still got
[31:08] Speaker 13: a lot of young guys who are gonna make this
[31:10] Speaker 13: defense better.
[31:12] Speaker 1: What about that?
[31:12] Speaker 13: Guys like Devin, Guys like Nick emn worry who can
[31:15] Speaker 13: get better?
[31:16] Speaker 16: I mean Devin, he was just like one of the heartbeats,
[31:18] Speaker 16: engines of the team, like his energy and his passion,
[31:20] Speaker 16: the way he plays the game. Guys on the defense
[31:23] Speaker 16: having no choice but to step up to that level
[31:25] Speaker 16: because if he's playing at a certain level, you're gonna
[31:27] Speaker 16: stand out when you're not playing at that level. And
[31:29] Speaker 16: that's the way our whole defense is. And you know,
[31:31] Speaker 16: having a Swiss army knife like NICKI man worry really
[31:34] Speaker 16: keeps offenses guessing because you know, we can line up
[31:36] Speaker 16: on you know, we can line him up at a safety, linebacker,
[31:39] Speaker 16: d line anywhere you want. Really, he could do it all.
[31:42] Speaker 16: And I think we just have a great combination of
[31:44] Speaker 16: like older guys who you know, we could pass our
[31:45] Speaker 16: wisdom down to the young guys. And then we have
[31:47] Speaker 16: young guys who are coming in with new talent and
[31:49] Speaker 16: new ideas, new mottos, and uh, it's just a great mix.
[31:53] Speaker 13: Tomorrow night, you guys can get it. Get a little
[31:54] Speaker 13: more jewelry. You're gonna get your Super Bowl rings. Man,
[31:57] Speaker 13: what about that?
[31:57] Speaker 6: Man?
[31:58] Speaker 16: I can't wait. It's been a long time coming. I
[32:00] Speaker 16: can't believe it's tomorrow. I feel like I'm going to
[32:02] Speaker 16: sleep like on Christmas Eve right now, waking up tomorrow
[32:05] Speaker 16: about to get my ring. Man. I'm excited I get
[32:08] Speaker 16: to see the guys. It's gonna feel like a reunion
[32:11] Speaker 16: from last season.
[32:13] Speaker 13: I gotta ask you this, because every team does need
[32:15] Speaker 13: its motivation. You guys win the Super Bowl, but people
[32:19] Speaker 13: are saying because the Rams down the road when it
[32:21] Speaker 13: got Miles geartt Ad maybe coming back, that they're the favorites.
[32:25] Speaker 3: What does that?
[32:26] Speaker 13: D Does that add any fuel on to this rive
[32:28] Speaker 13: where you guys got going.
[32:29] Speaker 16: I mean, for sure, I think that's something that you know,
[32:32] Speaker 16: we have out here in Seattle, playing in the Pacific Northwest.
[32:35] Speaker 16: We feel like we get overlooked a lot of times.
[32:38] Speaker 16: So I feel like we already kind of have a
[32:39] Speaker 16: chip on our shoulder, and even after winning the super Bowl,
[32:42] Speaker 16: we're still not considered favorites. So I think that's definitely
[32:45] Speaker 16: stacking some chips on everybody's shoulders. And we're just saying,
[32:48] Speaker 16: you know, watch out all right, appreciate you, man, Sorry,
[32:51] Speaker 16: thank you.
[32:52] Speaker 1: We're also watching out for a particular battle at the
[32:55] Speaker 1: running back position on the Seahawks. Michael f floryal won't
[32:59] Speaker 1: let you know who will win these running running back
[33:02] Speaker 1: battles in camp and how that works for your fantasy
[33:05] Speaker 1: ross that's coming up next on the inside. Back here
[33:17] Speaker 1: on the inside, let's go inside with Fantasy Live with
[33:20] Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy's own Michael f. Florido. Back here in studio, Mike.
[33:24] Speaker 1: Everybody wants to get volume at value, So let's go
[33:28] Speaker 1: through some of these running back battles. Starting in Pittsburgh.
[33:32] Speaker 1: Who do we want, Rico o'dowdell or Jalen Warren.
[33:34] Speaker 19: I think Rico Daddell and shout out to researcher Lawan Jones,
[33:38] Speaker 19: who really was the one hammering this home on our podcast.
[33:41] Speaker 19: But Daddell spent the first five years of his NFL
[33:44] Speaker 19: career with Mike McCarthy and in his final year in
[33:47] Speaker 19: Dallas took over as a starter and ran for almost
[33:49] Speaker 19: eleven hundred yards. Now we know Jalen Warren is the incumbent,
[33:53] Speaker 19: but I think Rico Daddell's experience with McCarthy gives him
[33:57] Speaker 19: the upper hand in this battle. And don't forget there
[33:59] Speaker 19: is this atch of Carolina last year where he just
[34:01] Speaker 19: looked fantastic. But Dadtell isn't the strongest receiver, which is
[34:06] Speaker 19: where I think Warren shines.
[34:08] Speaker 6: I think this backfield will operate a lot like last.
[34:10] Speaker 19: Year, but instead of warn being the early down back,
[34:12] Speaker 19: he's the passing down back with Rico Dowdell playing those
[34:16] Speaker 19: early downs. To me though, for fantasy, they're both AREB
[34:18] Speaker 19: three or flex options. And I'll be honest, I'm avoiding
[34:21] Speaker 19: the Steelers offense if I can. And then you didn't
[34:25] Speaker 19: think I was done hyping up Trevon Henderson last year,
[34:27] Speaker 19: right a conversation. No, no, no, I think Henderson is
[34:31] Speaker 19: going to come in and win the Patriots RB one job.
[34:34] Speaker 19: And let's not forget in games last year where he
[34:37] Speaker 19: had fifteen or more touches, he averaged over twenty Fantasy
[34:40] Speaker 19: points per game, and he is faster than Stevenson. He
[34:43] Speaker 19: averaged more yards on Carrie's inside and outside, he forced
[34:46] Speaker 19: more tackles. He was in a very effective goal line
[34:49] Speaker 19: runner once they gave him the opportunity.
[34:51] Speaker 6: The one thing that where Stevenson.
[34:53] Speaker 19: Had him beat, he was better as a pass.
[34:55] Speaker 6: Catcher and a receiver.
[34:57] Speaker 19: But I have hope for Trevion because he was awesome
[34:59] Speaker 19: in those guards in college and.
[35:01] Speaker 6: He's even cheaper in drafts as of.
[35:03] Speaker 19: Right now than he was a year ago. And then
[35:05] Speaker 19: in Seattle I'm excited for Jendarium Price. Like the Seahawks
[35:10] Speaker 19: first of all, ran the ball at the highest rate
[35:11] Speaker 19: last season, so you're going to want pieces of this backfield.
[35:15] Speaker 6: We know they lost.
[35:16] Speaker 19: Kenneth Walker, Charba Day tore his ACL in mid January,
[35:20] Speaker 19: so I'm not so sure we're going to see him
[35:22] Speaker 19: early on next year, and that would leave Price and
[35:25] Speaker 19: Emmanuel Wilson and others competing for the RB one spot.
[35:28] Speaker 19: But I think the fact that they use a first
[35:29] Speaker 19: round pack on Price tells you what they think of him.
[35:32] Speaker 19: And he's getting drafted in early drafts. He's like a
[35:34] Speaker 19: low end RB two, high end RB three that feels
[35:38] Speaker 19: about right.
[35:38] Speaker 6: The only caveat he never caught more.
[35:40] Speaker 19: Than six passes in a season in college, and we
[35:42] Speaker 19: know if you can't catch passes, that limits your ceiling.
[35:45] Speaker 1: Fans, and we're going to find out more about We
[35:48] Speaker 1: have the NFLPA hype video for We're going to actually
[35:51] Speaker 1: have video for Jendarium Price. Because he's playing behind a
[35:54] Speaker 1: very good player in college, we'll get more chances to
[35:56] Speaker 1: perhaps see some passes. Speaking of pass catchers, what's favorite
[36:00] Speaker 1: wide receiver battle Fantasy wise? Right now?
[36:02] Speaker 19: I think look Christian Watson is a dog and I
[36:05] Speaker 19: love him, but I think there's a big battle for
[36:07] Speaker 19: the number two spot in Green Bay between Jayden Reed
[36:10] Speaker 19: and Matthew Golden.
[36:11] Speaker 6: And on team Jayden Reid in this one.
[36:13] Speaker 19: Because he got hurt last year in Week two and
[36:16] Speaker 19: then it was two serious injuries.
[36:18] Speaker 6: We really never saw him fully acclimated after that. But
[36:22] Speaker 6: he is a unique skill set. I call him Wisconsin Deebo.
[36:26] Speaker 19: He is the kind of receiver you want to generate
[36:27] Speaker 19: touches four and don't forget. And the two years before
[36:31] Speaker 19: last year, he was a top thirty Fantasy wide receiver
[36:33] Speaker 19: each year, rated as one of the best slot receivers
[36:36] Speaker 19: in the NFL.
[36:37] Speaker 6: Meanwhile, Matthew Golden went for.
[36:39] Speaker 19: Less than three hundred and seventy yards and no touchdowns
[36:41] Speaker 19: as a rookie. I know he controls his own fate,
[36:44] Speaker 19: but history tells us you're not going to farewell as
[36:46] Speaker 19: a first round rookie who put up numbers like that.
[36:48] Speaker 19: In fact, since twenty ten, Mike william is the only
[36:51] Speaker 19: one to have real success after a rookie.
[36:53] Speaker 6: Year like that.
[36:53] Speaker 19: It's because he barely played as a rookie. Everyone else
[36:56] Speaker 19: kind of struggled post year one.
[36:57] Speaker 1: Perhaps the next year will be the year where the
[37:00] Speaker 1: wide receiver thing isn't necessarily a question. Let's go to
[37:03] Speaker 1: tight ends. If you are not in the trade mcbroad
[37:05] Speaker 1: sweep six and your bargain shopping favorite tight end battle
[37:09] Speaker 1: right now to kind of be that high values fut.
[37:12] Speaker 6: One that is going to take place right there.
[37:14] Speaker 19: We can see so far from where we're sitting, and
[37:16] Speaker 19: that is where Ronde Gatson does his his work. That's
[37:19] Speaker 19: where I think he wins the job this camp, even
[37:22] Speaker 19: though they don't have camp there. It's a little bit
[37:23] Speaker 19: more south.
[37:24] Speaker 6: But don't forget, like he showed us last.
[37:26] Speaker 19: Year he could play when those wide receivers were banged up.
[37:29] Speaker 19: He had one hundred and sixty four yard game with
[37:31] Speaker 19: a touchdown. But I expect the Chargers to throw even
[37:34] Speaker 19: more with Mike McDaniel there.
[37:35] Speaker 13: Like.
[37:36] Speaker 19: He also featured tight ends at a slightly higher rate
[37:39] Speaker 19: than Greg Roman has traditionally, and Gatson rated metrically much
[37:43] Speaker 19: better than David and Joku. My only concern here is
[37:47] Speaker 19: could David and Joku steal those valuable red zone looks away?
[37:50] Speaker 19: But even so, Gadson is getting drafted in that like
[37:53] Speaker 19: low end tight end one high end tight end, two range,
[37:55] Speaker 19: and the great thing there is you could pare him
[37:58] Speaker 19: with a safe veteran like a Kelsey Mark Andrews, take
[38:00] Speaker 19: your pick, and then you kind of have a safe
[38:02] Speaker 19: floor and an upside plate tight.
[38:04] Speaker 1: End and something that pushes the ADP doubt that name
[38:06] Speaker 1: recognition where joking is going to go. Yeah, you want
[38:09] Speaker 1: to talk about name recognition, it's Michael f Florio, Patrick
[38:12] Speaker 1: Clay Fantasy. What a great show, great logo as well,
[38:15] Speaker 1: and wait to see the Patriots. In day two of
[38:18] Speaker 1: mandatory Medicamp today, Drake May, taking his turn at the microphone,
[38:21] Speaker 1: listened to some of his favorite things about new top
[38:24] Speaker 1: target Aj Brown.
[38:26] Speaker 20: The best thing about him, He's been a winner, you know,
[38:28] Speaker 20: he's Noway's like to win and obviously had someone in
[38:31] Speaker 20: that room that you really, you know, kind of we
[38:32] Speaker 20: were we're kind of, you know, kind of looking for
[38:35] Speaker 20: and I think that's the best thing, you know, I
[38:36] Speaker 20: think Steph provided for us last year. And there's been
[38:38] Speaker 20: guys that are growing in their roles, but just coming
[38:40] Speaker 20: in with that stature and his ability in his size
[38:43] Speaker 20: and just the respect that you walk in there with
[38:45] Speaker 20: that kind of Steph had.
[38:46] Speaker 1: AJ's got too respect going to the Minnesota Vikings defense
[38:51] Speaker 1: of Brian Flores. They have demanded a lot of attention
[38:53] Speaker 1: the last few years with versatile veteran defenders, one of
[38:57] Speaker 1: them being safety Josh Mattilus, who goes one on one
[39:00] Speaker 1: with Tom pellisera Josh first day in mini camp out
[39:04] Speaker 1: here the culmination of your offseason. Tell me what you
[39:06] Speaker 1: see right now with the twenty twenty six Viking.
[39:08] Speaker 3: I'm loving what I see right now.
[39:10] Speaker 21: You know, as a team, this time is a learning period,
[39:13] Speaker 21: but not only on the field. Off the field, getting
[39:15] Speaker 21: learn your teammates, long weekends, you know, you get guys
[39:17] Speaker 21: stick around, you know. So we started to spend some
[39:19] Speaker 21: quality time outside of the building with each other, building that
[39:22] Speaker 21: team chemistry, team bond, and it's showing out here on
[39:24] Speaker 21: the grass when we.
[39:24] Speaker 3: Come out here.
[39:25] Speaker 21: We're able to get quick, you know, intentional work, you know,
[39:28] Speaker 21: taking care of each other. Still but still understanding, you know,
[39:30] Speaker 21: what's that stake right now, being so early in the offseason.
[39:33] Speaker 3: But I'm liking what I'm seeing right now.
[39:36] Speaker 22: We just got to keep going defensively, you guys were
[39:38] Speaker 22: lights out towards the end of last season. I also
[39:40] Speaker 22: know a lot of that defense, the checks and the
[39:42] Speaker 22: calls went through Harrison Smith. He's not out here at
[39:45] Speaker 22: least for now. How are you guys adapting what you
[39:47] Speaker 22: do on D Yeah, I mean a big part of
[39:49] Speaker 22: it is just playing off what we did last year.
[39:51] Speaker 22: I think to finish the year as a defense, we
[39:54] Speaker 22: kind of figure out how we want to play with
[39:55] Speaker 22: the group of guys that we have in our building,
[39:58] Speaker 22: in our room.
[39:59] Speaker 3: We know we do well and we showed that at
[40:01] Speaker 3: the end of the season.
[40:02] Speaker 21: So it's all about, you know, taking that next step
[40:04] Speaker 21: and replacing you know, the guys who aren't here, and
[40:07] Speaker 21: you know, finding what can we do to you know,
[40:09] Speaker 21: take our game to the next level.
[40:11] Speaker 3: You know, Harry was a big part of that.
[40:12] Speaker 21: But you know, at the end of the day, well,
[40:14] Speaker 21: we built this defense together as a group, and you know,
[40:16] Speaker 21: we all were here to see how he handled things,
[40:18] Speaker 21: so it's easy to just throw the next man in
[40:21] Speaker 21: and get the same thing handled.
[40:22] Speaker 22: I know you saw him a couple of weeks ago.
[40:23] Speaker 22: Do you have a hint you of an inclination? Are
[40:25] Speaker 22: you doing a cell job?
[40:26] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm doing my best sell job I can do.
[40:29] Speaker 21: By at the end of the day, you know, you
[40:30] Speaker 21: gotta let a family man be a family man right now.
[40:32] Speaker 21: All season. You know, he likes to golf, he likes
[40:34] Speaker 21: to spend time with his kids and his wife. So
[40:36] Speaker 21: you know, I'm trying to let him do him Once
[40:38] Speaker 21: that time roll around, you know, and I gotta press
[40:39] Speaker 21: a little more, I'll do my pressing, but hey, he's
[40:42] Speaker 21: his own person.
[40:43] Speaker 22: I let him be the other side of the ball.
[40:45] Speaker 22: You got Kyler Murray, JJ McCarthy out here. It looked
[40:47] Speaker 22: from today it was pretty much a split in terms
[40:50] Speaker 22: of the reps. What are you seeing in that competition
[40:52] Speaker 22: for those guys, two.
[40:53] Speaker 3: Guys getting better? I think, you know, as DB's we
[40:56] Speaker 3: we love competition.
[40:58] Speaker 21: You know, we love that one on one you know,
[41:00] Speaker 21: feel kind of thing where you got to step up
[41:01] Speaker 21: to the plate knowing you know it's on you. And
[41:04] Speaker 21: I think in that quarterback room right now, you got
[41:06] Speaker 21: not even just those two guys, but the whole room.
[41:08] Speaker 21: You know, you got guys who can play ball, and
[41:10] Speaker 21: you got guys who are pushing each other day in
[41:12] Speaker 21: and day out, whether that's coming in split reps, whether
[41:15] Speaker 21: that's in our little two spot walkthroughs or.
[41:17] Speaker 3: Whatever you want to call them.
[41:18] Speaker 21: You know, you see guys that are going about revs
[41:20] Speaker 21: very intentional and it's elevating the room.
[41:22] Speaker 3: And that's all we can ask for. Nice yees.
[41:25] Speaker 1: Normally, on Wednesdays we get to see Brian Baldinger. He
[41:27] Speaker 1: is on vacation and also on an elephant. This video
[41:32] Speaker 1: coming courtesy Filmed bar Brian Baldinger is Baldi on an elephant.
[41:38] Speaker 1: Jadie Batista. Look at that. He is a travel dog
[41:44] Speaker 1: that a moniker that Baldi goes by. We get to
[41:47] Speaker 1: see him there doing his travel dog thing.
[41:51] Speaker 9: I want the travel dog to be my travel agent.
[41:54] Speaker 8: Baldi takes such great Every year Baldy is on one
[41:57] Speaker 8: of these amazing trips.
[41:59] Speaker 9: Can you imagine that? I mean, I can't wait until
[42:02] Speaker 9: he gets home.
[42:05] Speaker 2: You know, I partially blame I partially blame myself on
[42:08] Speaker 2: this because I wondered the other day to myself, I
[42:11] Speaker 2: wonder what Pauli's do. We haven't seen him in a
[42:13] Speaker 2: little bit. Now I get our answer. He's on an elephant.
[42:17] Speaker 7: Yeah, Baldise, big boys just kind of knew it. Like
[42:23] Speaker 7: that's the segment that he does every year around the draft.
[42:26] Speaker 6: I think we got two more for him to break
[42:28] Speaker 6: down right here.
[42:30] Speaker 1: You just know to everybody around. He gave a spectacular
[42:35] Speaker 1: breakdown about the elephants, the way that they converted that
[42:38] Speaker 1: energy getting into that water. That's great stuff. Glad we
[42:41] Speaker 1: get to share a Baldi with the world. Honestly, what
[42:44] Speaker 1: a life. Thanks, we'll do that, Ben say,

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