# The Insiders Podcast: 2026 Schedule Preview, NFC East Offseason Breakdown, and Bengals Tackle Orlando Brown Jr. Joins the Insiders

An episode of [NFL: The Insiders](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1543090622), 12 May 2026, 43 min.

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NFL Network Insiders Tom Pelissero and Judy Battista reveal and discuss some of premier games of the 2026 schedule, including the Cowboys at the Giants in week one. Jane Slater, Marc Ross, and Steve Wyche breakdown the offseason to do lists for all four teams in the NFC East. Bengals tackle Orlando Browns Jr. joins the show and you’ll hear from coaches and players who took part in rookie minicamp. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:08] Speaker 1: If you thought we'd finally have a show without speculation
[0:11] Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers' future, where have you been? The Steelers
[0:15] Speaker 1: and everybody else still waiting for answers again. We'll tell
[0:18] Speaker 1: you the latest tonight on what comes next for the
[0:21] Speaker 1: four time NFL MVP. The draft is over, but not
[0:26] Speaker 1: everyone has done roster shopping just yet. We will break
[0:29] Speaker 1: down what's still on the NFC East to do list
[0:32] Speaker 1: and reveal two nationally televised matchups in that division on
[0:36] Speaker 1: the twenty twenty sixth slate. There have been a ton
[0:39] Speaker 1: of changes in the AFC North already, including the Bengals
[0:42] Speaker 1: making a big trade not for that guy. That's Orlando
[0:45] Speaker 1: Brown Junior. He'll join us tonight to talk about Dexter Lawrence,
[0:49] Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, and high expectations in Cincinnati. Welcome Inside with
[0:53] Speaker 1: the Insiders, presented by Verizon alongside Judy Batista. I am
[0:58] Speaker 1: Tom Pelisero. We are one one hundred and twenty days
[1:01] Speaker 1: out from kickoff. We've already got some interesting games on
[1:06] Speaker 1: that schedule. Schedule release coverage presented by Verizon, having those
[1:10] Speaker 1: of the Cowboys. Let's start out on Thanksgiving. They'll be
[1:13] Speaker 1: hosting the division rival Eagles, just the third time that
[1:16] Speaker 1: this team, these teams have squared off judy between your
[1:20] Speaker 1: main course and your dessert. What do you make of
[1:23] Speaker 1: Eagles Cowboys a rarity on Thanksgiving Day?
[1:27] Speaker 2: It's a rarity because on Thanksgiving, I mean it's not
[1:30] Speaker 2: an exaggeration to say you could almost put your local
[1:32] Speaker 2: peewee team up against the Dallas Cowboys and draw a
[1:36] Speaker 2: huge rating for that Thanksgiving game. Everybody is sitting down
[1:40] Speaker 2: to the table. Maybe you move the dining room table
[1:43] Speaker 2: in front of the television like we do in my
[1:44] Speaker 2: family so that you can watch all the games. So
[1:47] Speaker 2: you don't schedule a blockbuster NFC East bitter division rival
[1:53] Speaker 2: against the Cowboys, except when you do like they're going
[1:56] Speaker 2: to do this year. The Eagles have won the previous
[1:58] Speaker 2: two meetings against the Cowboys on Thanksgiving. Obviously, this matchup
[2:02] Speaker 2: has everything, all kinds of superstar players, superstar quarterbacks again,
[2:08] Speaker 2: a bitter, bitter rivalry, a rebuilt Cowboys defense. This is
[2:13] Speaker 2: going to be, especially because you are coming down to
[2:15] Speaker 2: late in the season. It is almost certainly going to
[2:18] Speaker 2: have big division implications for both teams.
[2:21] Speaker 1: A blockbuster game, of course. Full schedule release coming on Thursday, night.
[2:25] Speaker 1: But this is how it goes. It's not just a night, Judy,
[2:28] Speaker 1: It's a whole week, four days of the remaining matchups
[2:32] Speaker 1: being unveiled, especially the national TV matchups. Week one, speaking
[2:36] Speaker 1: of that Revise Cowboys defense, guess why you get to
[2:39] Speaker 1: see him again prime time Sunday night football. It is
[2:42] Speaker 1: up against the New York Giants. All the changes there
[2:44] Speaker 1: with John Harbaugh now set to make his debut on
[2:48] Speaker 1: national TV. Let's welcome in r Mark Ross and Steve
[2:52] Speaker 1: Whitz to the conversation. Mark, I'll start with you Giants Cowboys.
[2:57] Speaker 1: This one's playing a lot We've seen in Week one
[2:59] Speaker 1: a ton over the years. What do you make of this?
[3:02] Speaker 1: Be the first Sunday night matchup?
[3:05] Speaker 3: Yeah, my time with the Giants, we played the Cowboys
[3:07] Speaker 3: six times on opening night we knew in the schedule
[3:09] Speaker 3: was coming out who we were playing, and Week two one.
[3:12] Speaker 1: Other time as well for good measure.
[3:14] Speaker 3: But for this game and the Giants, of course, it's
[3:16] Speaker 3: all about Harball, the new head coach, and how the.
[3:19] Speaker 1: Team will look different.
[3:20] Speaker 3: Most importantly, how that affects Jackson Dart and if he
[3:24] Speaker 3: can take that step in prime time on Opening night
[3:27] Speaker 3: to say okay, we saw the flashes as a rookie,
[3:30] Speaker 3: we saw the brilliance that you can provide, but can
[3:33] Speaker 3: we see that consistently? And also a couple of their
[3:36] Speaker 3: big playmakers will leak Neighbors coming off of an injury.
[3:40] Speaker 1: How healthy will he be?
[3:41] Speaker 3: Running back Cam Scattaboo coming off of an injury as well,
[3:46] Speaker 3: so how will he look as well? Then also the
[3:48] Speaker 3: new additions like in Isaiah likely so the offense as
[3:51] Speaker 3: a whole with Harball there, how the team will look different.
[3:54] Speaker 3: But most importantly they're young playmakers Steve, how they will
[3:58] Speaker 3: fare against that revel Cowboys defense.
[4:01] Speaker 4: But really good stuff and all that, But something you
[4:03] Speaker 4: skipped over when you started this off you said you
[4:05] Speaker 4: played the Cowboys six times in the opening.
[4:07] Speaker 1: What's the record in those games? I gotta check out that.
[4:11] Speaker 1: On the step I think it was pretty good though,
[4:14] Speaker 1: I think it was pretty good.
[4:16] Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you this, Dallas has owned the season opening.
[4:19] Speaker 1: Seriously.
[4:19] Speaker 4: I think the Cowboys went eleven of the last twelve
[4:22] Speaker 4: against the Giants. So you know it is a new
[4:24] Speaker 4: day if John Harbaugh gets these Giants to start the
[4:27] Speaker 4: season with the victory over the Cowboys. That both these
[4:29] Speaker 4: teams were not good last year Dallas seven to nine
[4:31] Speaker 4: and won the Giants four to thirteen. For Dallas, it
[4:34] Speaker 4: comes down to the defense. Mark you just talked about
[4:35] Speaker 4: all the weapons that the Giants have on offense with
[4:38] Speaker 4: Dallas has spent since it got rid of Michael Parsons
[4:40] Speaker 4: so much time fortifying its defensive front, you know, adding
[4:43] Speaker 4: Mashaun Geary and Kenny Clark, after getting Quinton Williams on.
[4:46] Speaker 1: That defensive line.
[4:47] Speaker 4: Last year, they draft Malachi Lawrence, you see him right there,
[4:50] Speaker 4: the edge rusher in the first round. So that's gonna
[4:53] Speaker 4: be a big part of it. But also in the secondary,
[4:56] Speaker 4: getting someone like Caleb Downs, the nickel safety you just
[4:59] Speaker 4: talked about, the all right to adding Isaiah likely for
[5:02] Speaker 4: players like that. This is where now they've got a
[5:04] Speaker 4: player who can spy be Caleb Downs, be at Jackson
[5:06] Speaker 4: Dart a bunch of rollout situations. So again, the Cowboys
[5:10] Speaker 4: defense is really going to tell the tale a lot.
[5:12] Speaker 4: It's early in the season. Both these teams should be healthy.
[5:15] Speaker 4: We know the Cowboys can score, but the Giants have
[5:17] Speaker 4: a lot of weapons. This could be a very, very
[5:20] Speaker 4: exciting game as both teams are still trying to figure
[5:23] Speaker 4: out their identities on their weakest sides of the ball.
[5:27] Speaker 2: These teams have played eight of the last fifteen season
[5:30] Speaker 2: opening weekends. That's how often the NFL goes to this matchup.
[5:35] Speaker 2: I got to tell you, though, I was sitting at
[5:37] Speaker 2: John Harbough's press conference introductory press conference. Mike Garafalo was
[5:40] Speaker 2: there too, and there were dozens and dozens of reporters
[5:44] Speaker 2: and cameras there to cover it, and I was sitting
[5:46] Speaker 2: there thinking, this feels like the New York Giants are back,
[5:50] Speaker 2: like they are back to being relevant and interesting and compelling,
[5:54] Speaker 2: And putting this game in the opening Sunday night slot
[5:58] Speaker 2: tells you that's what the thinks about the Giants too,
[6:02] Speaker 2: because the Giants have not been very competitive in the
[6:05] Speaker 2: last few years. They haven't been very compelling in the
[6:08] Speaker 2: last few years. Now they are both not just because
[6:11] Speaker 2: of John Harbaugh, because of Jackson Dart and Camp Scataboo
[6:14] Speaker 2: and Malik Neighbors, and because of the draft class they
[6:17] Speaker 2: just got done selecting. This tells you that the NFL
[6:21] Speaker 2: believes that the Giants are on the way back up
[6:24] Speaker 2: and they want to put a blockbuster matchup in that
[6:27] Speaker 2: first Sunday slot. It always draws big ratings. You get
[6:31] Speaker 2: the New York market back into it. It is a
[6:33] Speaker 2: huge draw for the NFL to have the Giants and
[6:36] Speaker 2: the Cowboys back.
[6:38] Speaker 1: Mark Steve our Research FARMA did check eleven meetings in
[6:41] Speaker 1: Week one between the Giants and the Cowboys. Cowboys are
[6:44] Speaker 1: ten and one in those games. Hey, get ready for
[6:46] Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six NFL season. I was there for
[6:50] Speaker 1: the last six release. Highly anticipated twenty twenty six NFL
[6:56] Speaker 1: schedule release Every rivalry ever reimatgined every rookie debut with
[6:59] Speaker 1: matchup locked and kickoffs confirmed. Catch every camp miss moment.
[7:03] Speaker 1: NFL schedule release on NFL Network, ESPN and the ESPN
[7:06] Speaker 1: app Thursday at eight pm Eastern Time. Who will be
[7:12] Speaker 1: on the field for the Steelers in Week one? Well,
[7:14] Speaker 1: at quarterback you guessed it. Still don't know. Aaron Rodgers
[7:18] Speaker 1: and the Steelers did not meet over the weekend. They
[7:21] Speaker 1: have had a lot of phone conversations zooms, facetimes. There's
[7:26] Speaker 1: been a lot of conversation between the Steelers and Rogers agent.
[7:29] Speaker 1: They've talked numbers, deal not in place, commitment not there.
[7:33] Speaker 1: Ota start one week from today. That would be a
[7:36] Speaker 1: pretty good time to show up. They didn't get a
[7:38] Speaker 1: deal done with a kicker, Chris Boswell, that's right, that's
[7:42] Speaker 1: your big news. Steelers fans agreed. It turns on a
[7:44] Speaker 1: four year, twenty eight million dollar extension seven million dollar
[7:47] Speaker 1: average per year, matching Brandon Aubrey of the Cowboys for
[7:51] Speaker 1: the highest paid in NFL history. He has been an
[7:57] Speaker 1: All American, a Super Bowl champ, a four time Pro Bowler,
[8:01] Speaker 1: and now Orlando Brown Junior can add another distinction to
[8:04] Speaker 1: his resume twenty twenty six breakthrough T one D Cincinnatian
[8:09] Speaker 1: of the Year. We're pleased be joined right now by
[8:12] Speaker 1: Orlando Brown Junior. Orlando, great to see you as always. Man,
[8:17] Speaker 1: Tell me about this honor. You've done so much work
[8:19] Speaker 1: with that organization people with type one diabetes. What did
[8:22] Speaker 1: all this get to celebrated me?
[8:24] Speaker 5: To you?
[8:25] Speaker 6: I'm then so much man. You know, for me, it's
[8:27] Speaker 6: a cause that hits close to home. And you know
[8:31] Speaker 6: my brother being diagnosed at eight years old with type
[8:34] Speaker 6: one diabetes. We're a year a part of a year older.
[8:37] Speaker 6: I was nine years old when we found out about him,
[8:39] Speaker 6: and my dad passed away with keto acidosis, which is
[8:42] Speaker 6: a form of a diabetic coma and if he had
[8:46] Speaker 6: known that that he was diabetic, type one diabetic is
[8:49] Speaker 6: something we would have been able to prevent. And so
[8:52] Speaker 6: my work is more so centered around being able to
[8:55] Speaker 6: help shine a positive light on it, allowing others to
[8:59] Speaker 6: know and other family members to know they're not alone.
[9:02] Speaker 6: You know, it's it's very serious.
[9:05] Speaker 1: Man.
[9:05] Speaker 6: I saw the waited and the effect that it had
[9:07] Speaker 6: on my family. You know, my mom especially, Man. I
[9:10] Speaker 6: don't know if she slept those first five years of
[9:12] Speaker 6: his diagnosis, and so, you know, I think for me, man,
[9:16] Speaker 6: just giving that giving back, given the opportunity to shed
[9:20] Speaker 6: a positive light on those that deal with it, man,
[9:22] Speaker 6: and to help preventative measure to be taken.
[9:27] Speaker 1: Great work.
[9:27] Speaker 2: Let's turn our attention to football, because it's been a
[9:30] Speaker 2: really active off season for the Cincinnati Bengals, a lot
[9:34] Speaker 2: of it on the defensive side. Of course, dex Nawnce
[9:36] Speaker 2: is the big headline, but there were a lot of moves,
[9:39] Speaker 2: a lot of changes on the defensive side of the ball.
[9:42] Speaker 2: When you're an offensive lineman and you're watching that happen
[9:45] Speaker 2: on the defensive line, what are you thinking, how do
[9:48] Speaker 2: you feel about all those changes?
[9:50] Speaker 1: Excited?
[9:51] Speaker 6: Man, I'm excited. And to be honest, it's not even
[9:53] Speaker 6: just about the talent, you know, it's the type of
[9:56] Speaker 6: minute they brought in to me that speak volumes.
[9:59] Speaker 7: Man.
[9:59] Speaker 6: I just from DECKX to you know, Boy and Montfe,
[10:03] Speaker 6: Brian Cook, all of these dudes, man, But their leaders,
[10:06] Speaker 6: their winners. It's important to them. They love the game
[10:09] Speaker 6: of football and everything that it brings.
[10:11] Speaker 8: Man.
[10:11] Speaker 6: And so just the idea that you know, not only
[10:15] Speaker 6: did we get better from a talent standpoint, we brought
[10:17] Speaker 6: in great men and that's so important when you building
[10:20] Speaker 6: a football team and trying to establish a winning culture.
[10:23] Speaker 1: Man.
[10:23] Speaker 6: So I look forward to being able to get to
[10:25] Speaker 6: work with these man.
[10:28] Speaker 1: I heard your reaction right there when Judy mentioned Dexter Lawrence.
[10:31] Speaker 1: This doesn't happen with the Bengals. They don't make trades.
[10:33] Speaker 1: Must less for any top ten draft picks to go
[10:36] Speaker 1: and get a veteran. This guy's been a pro bowler,
[10:38] Speaker 1: He's been one of the best when he's at his
[10:40] Speaker 1: best in the game. Him specifically, what was your reaction
[10:43] Speaker 1: when you found out the Bengals had actually done this
[10:46] Speaker 1: and what does he bring on the field.
[10:48] Speaker 6: I would sucked, man, you know, honestly, because guys like
[10:51] Speaker 6: that really don't even become available. That's really the crazy
[10:55] Speaker 6: part to me. And I'm just thankful he ended up
[10:57] Speaker 6: here because there's no telling what would have happened. He
[11:00] Speaker 6: would have been at a divisional arrival. Man, But he
[11:03] Speaker 6: just brings such great positive juice to, you know, a
[11:06] Speaker 6: locker room that was somewhat missing that on that side
[11:08] Speaker 6: of the ball.
[11:09] Speaker 1: Man A leader.
[11:10] Speaker 6: As I mentioned, Man, he loves the game of football,
[11:12] Speaker 6: and you know, he's just so fit for what we
[11:16] Speaker 6: are and what it means to be a bangle.
[11:17] Speaker 1: I was.
[11:18] Speaker 6: I was so fired up when we got him, knowing
[11:19] Speaker 6: every in the trade went through. I was actually able
[11:21] Speaker 6: to have dinner with him on that Sunday. I think
[11:24] Speaker 6: the deal went through on that Saturday.
[11:26] Speaker 7: Man.
[11:26] Speaker 1: So I was fired up.
[11:27] Speaker 6: I'm still fired up, to be honest. I can't wait
[11:29] Speaker 6: to wait to see him.
[11:30] Speaker 1: Out there Week one.
[11:33] Speaker 2: Joe Borrow towards the end of last year, like mid December,
[11:36] Speaker 2: in talking to media, it sounded notably frustrated and certainly
[11:40] Speaker 2: with his own injuries and with the way the season
[11:42] Speaker 2: had gone. It obviously didn't go the way you guys
[11:44] Speaker 2: had hoped at the very beginning. What kind of sense
[11:47] Speaker 2: do you get of where Joe's head is right now
[11:50] Speaker 2: and how he's approaching twenty twenty six.
[11:53] Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Joe's in a great spot, man. I
[11:55] Speaker 6: think I think Joe is extremely excited. He's ready to go.
[12:00] Speaker 6: You know, I remember that that interview that he had
[12:02] Speaker 6: that day. I think he actually might have been his birthday.
[12:04] Speaker 6: And to be honest, he's not a big birthday god,
[12:07] Speaker 6: So you know, I might have caught him at a
[12:08] Speaker 6: bad time. But I will tell you, man, nobody, nobody
[12:11] Speaker 6: loves winning more than Joey b So you know, man,
[12:15] Speaker 6: Like I said, these moves helped put us in great
[12:16] Speaker 6: position overall as a team. And you know, I just
[12:19] Speaker 6: look forward to being able to go out there and
[12:21] Speaker 6: do my job keeping him clean, score some points and
[12:23] Speaker 6: win some football games.
[12:25] Speaker 1: It's so funny because the only Joe Burrow we see
[12:27] Speaker 1: at this time of year Orlando is the guy who's
[12:30] Speaker 1: showing up in funky outfits to like galas and horse
[12:33] Speaker 1: rays and things like that. We all know Joseph serial
[12:35] Speaker 1: killer when he actually gets on the field, if he's healthy,
[12:38] Speaker 1: which has been the biggest issue for a number of
[12:40] Speaker 1: years now for Joe, How good can this Bengals team
[12:43] Speaker 1: be in twenty twenty six.
[12:46] Speaker 6: Oh great, man. I mean, you know, Joe, Joe has
[12:48] Speaker 6: a lot of pressure on him, more so than most
[12:50] Speaker 6: other quarterbacks because of our system. And you know, the
[12:53] Speaker 6: ball is in his hand a lot, and he has
[12:55] Speaker 6: to make decisions a lot. And you know that's that's
[12:58] Speaker 6: believe it or not. Man, it's extremely rare. It just
[13:01] Speaker 6: based off of the way that we call the game.
[13:03] Speaker 6: And so, uh, you know, he's he's locked in. I
[13:06] Speaker 6: will tell you at all times. Man, even probably got
[13:08] Speaker 6: to Kentucky Derby. He's thinking about how to get Ja
[13:10] Speaker 6: more open. So that's just who he is.
[13:16] Speaker 2: We got the schedule release coming up here in a
[13:18] Speaker 2: few days. You obviously have known the opponents now for
[13:21] Speaker 2: a while. But as a player, what are you looking
[13:24] Speaker 2: for when this schedule comes out?
[13:27] Speaker 1: What are you hoping for? What are you dreading?
[13:30] Speaker 6: I don't really have any dreads. I just will tell
[13:32] Speaker 6: you I love playning prom time man, and you know,
[13:35] Speaker 6: we got a lot of star power. I think it's
[13:38] Speaker 6: time we get a little bit more prom Time games.
[13:40] Speaker 6: So that's that's what I look forward to, man. Hopefully
[13:43] Speaker 6: hopefully we get some more.
[13:46] Speaker 1: Oh ha a congratulations Man on a big honor for
[13:49] Speaker 1: you the breakthrough Cincinnati and of the year you do
[13:52] Speaker 1: fantastic work in the community. Always a pleasure having you
[13:55] Speaker 1: on the show Man, Thanks for.
[13:56] Speaker 7: Being here, of course, thank you guys for having me off.
[14:00] Speaker 7: Is that over just yet? What is still to be
[14:02] Speaker 7: done in the NFC East will break that down and
[14:06] Speaker 7: also unveil another primetime game of the twenty twenty sixth schedule.
[14:10] Speaker 7: Stick around news after this on The Insiders.
[14:19] Speaker 1: Another big game just revealed by the NFL, the first
[14:24] Speaker 1: ever at the new High March Stadium in Orchard Park,
[14:27] Speaker 1: New York, will feature the Bills against the Lions. It's
[14:29] Speaker 1: the twenty twenty sixth debut of Thursday Night Football on
[14:33] Speaker 1: Prime seven, September seventeenth, Lions and Bills. Joe Brady's home
[14:38] Speaker 1: debut as the head coach. Another good one ahead of
[14:41] Speaker 1: the full release of the twenty twenty six NFL schedule.
[14:44] Speaker 1: Every rivalry, every rematch, every rookie debut, matchups locked, kickoffs confirmed,
[14:50] Speaker 1: catch every camp miss moment. It's the NFL schedule release
[14:52] Speaker 1: on NFL Network, ESPN and the ESPN app Thursday, eight
[14:57] Speaker 1: pm Eastern Time. Week one, There'll be the Cowboys at
[15:02] Speaker 1: the Giants. That is Sunday Night Football September thirteenth, another
[15:06] Speaker 1: the one of the games officially confirmed earlier on today,
[15:10] Speaker 1: as we turn our attention to the NFC East for
[15:14] Speaker 1: the off season to do list and welcome in our
[15:17] Speaker 1: Jane Slater down there in Dallas, Jane, every year seems
[15:21] Speaker 1: like an eventful year for the Cowboys through the course
[15:23] Speaker 1: of the off season, and every year it seems like
[15:26] Speaker 1: we've got one big item still on the to do list.
[15:28] Speaker 1: Break it down for me, it's May. What do we
[15:30] Speaker 1: still got to do in Dallas?
[15:32] Speaker 9: Judy, Tom, I know you both enjoy this as you
[15:35] Speaker 9: write up pieces yourselves, but I love too early talk.
[15:38] Speaker 9: But in this case with the Cowboys, there are things
[15:41] Speaker 9: that I think are very important for them as they
[15:43] Speaker 9: move through ots and at least through training camp. And
[15:46] Speaker 9: the most obvious one is getting a handle of this
[15:48] Speaker 9: defensive playbook. And that's because if you looked at this
[15:51] Speaker 9: team last year, they were slow to figure it out.
[15:53] Speaker 9: Now that didn't have to do exclusively with Matt Eberfluc
[15:56] Speaker 9: and a system and how to do with you didn't know.
[15:58] Speaker 10: The personnel you were working with. You were rolling the.
[16:01] Speaker 9: Dice on some guys that were coming back from injuries
[16:04] Speaker 9: or you had free agents in the building. Under new
[16:06] Speaker 9: defensive coordinator Christian Parker, this is going to be a
[16:09] Speaker 9: much more multiple defense. There's going to be a lot
[16:11] Speaker 9: of pre snapt motion, there's going to be a lot
[16:13] Speaker 9: of different fits. They're going to be moving players around more,
[16:17] Speaker 9: and typically when you're unfamiliar with the scheme.
[16:19] Speaker 10: I saw this than Mike Nolan here.
[16:21] Speaker 9: When Mike McCarthy came in and they were teaching this
[16:23] Speaker 9: new exotic multiple front defense online didn't quite pan out.
[16:28] Speaker 9: And that's because for players, when you have to think
[16:30] Speaker 9: about these things too much, it results in hesitation. So
[16:33] Speaker 9: I would say the biggest factor is figure out this
[16:36] Speaker 9: playbook early and often.
[16:38] Speaker 10: I think that's also why you saw them.
[16:40] Speaker 9: They didn't go after a lot of injured players, and
[16:43] Speaker 9: the players that they do have in this system they fit.
[16:45] Speaker 9: You saw them move away from Osa Digizua, who was
[16:48] Speaker 9: loved in the locker room. He was just kind of
[16:50] Speaker 9: the odd man out when they started talking to him
[16:52] Speaker 9: about four. I so the biggest thing here is you've
[16:56] Speaker 9: got young pieces learning new terminology, veterans adjusting to different responsibility,
[17:00] Speaker 9: and somebody has to emerge as your green dot communicator.
[17:03] Speaker 9: We typically don't talk about the green dot a lot,
[17:06] Speaker 9: but for whatever reason, it is the biggest topic in Dallas.
[17:09] Speaker 9: Who is going to wear the green dot? And Shoddy
[17:12] Speaker 9: and Christian Parker have multiple times sold you they're working
[17:14] Speaker 9: through these things. Look, guys, it's early, but I will
[17:16] Speaker 9: say September comes early. Things can get ugly fast as
[17:20] Speaker 9: we start seeing this schedule get out here. You're facing
[17:23] Speaker 9: opponents week one, a divisional opponent in the Giants. Don't
[17:27] Speaker 9: lose the game because you haven't figured out what your
[17:30] Speaker 9: deference is supposed to do, where they're supposed to line up,
[17:33] Speaker 9: and how they're supposed to communicate.
[17:35] Speaker 2: Right, Jane, the Cowboys always do everything bigger than everybody else,
[17:39] Speaker 2: So they don't have just one top priority.
[17:41] Speaker 1: They have two top priorities. What's the other one?
[17:45] Speaker 9: Get George Pickens in the building. Guys, Look, this thing
[17:48] Speaker 9: is still so interesting to me and how it's moving.
[17:51] Speaker 9: I did report that, you know a couple of months
[17:54] Speaker 9: or a month or two ago, when you guys asked me,
[17:56] Speaker 9: is this.
[17:56] Speaker 10: Thing going to be a problem?
[17:58] Speaker 1: I don't know.
[17:59] Speaker 9: I mean, he's out, he signed his franchise tag, he
[18:02] Speaker 9: hasn't showed up yet. But keep in mind these are
[18:05] Speaker 9: voluntary at this point. But if you follow either Cede
[18:09] Speaker 9: Lamb or George Pickens on social media, you'll know that
[18:12] Speaker 9: these guys are hanging out a lot in the off season.
[18:16] Speaker 9: The biggest thing that we're talking about here, see it's.
[18:17] Speaker 10: On our bottom line. Get him in the building early
[18:20] Speaker 10: to build chemistry at the offense. Well, the most important
[18:22] Speaker 10: guy for him to build.
[18:23] Speaker 9: Chemistry with is not only Ceedee Lamb, but Dak Prescott.
[18:27] Speaker 9: If you listen to Brian Schottenheimer, he clearly has a
[18:30] Speaker 9: way of communicating with George. My relationship with George and
[18:33] Speaker 9: getting to know him here in Dallas has been very
[18:35] Speaker 9: different than what people said about him outside the building.
[18:38] Speaker 9: Maybe that was just your one, but I found him
[18:41] Speaker 9: to be sensible. I found him to be interested in
[18:43] Speaker 9: this team, interested in being there for his teammates. So
[18:47] Speaker 9: let's see if that translates to him showing up. But
[18:50] Speaker 9: they need George Pickens in here early. If they're trying
[18:52] Speaker 9: to get the defense on the same page. It helps
[18:53] Speaker 9: to have all those offensive players there as well, establish
[18:57] Speaker 9: a chemistry, don't have distractions. In defense of the Cowboys
[19:01] Speaker 9: front office, They have done a lot of things in
[19:04] Speaker 9: this offseason, even before we got to the draft, of
[19:07] Speaker 9: trying to mitigate the distractions by moving players on that
[19:11] Speaker 9: didn't make sense for their schemes, for signing guys that made.
[19:14] Speaker 10: More sense for plug and play. And so now that
[19:17] Speaker 10: they've done their due diligence, let's hope that the players
[19:19] Speaker 10: do theirs.
[19:21] Speaker 1: Jane, thank you very much. Flip side of that Sunday
[19:23] Speaker 1: night football match been week one of the New York Giants,
[19:26] Speaker 1: who have also had an eventful offseason. Here's Joe Shane
[19:29] Speaker 1: and John Arba doing the old middle school football team
[19:34] Speaker 1: pos right there. Everybody, just hold your hands a position
[19:37] Speaker 1: you will never stand in except for right now. I've
[19:40] Speaker 1: been a lot of activity Clinton defensive tackle where they
[19:42] Speaker 1: didn't just trade de Extra Lawrence, they added some guys
[19:44] Speaker 1: as well. Last book to you, guys made some moves
[19:48] Speaker 1: at defensive tackle. DJ Shelby Pickens. What do you think
[19:52] Speaker 1: of what you guys have done there since the draft?
[19:54] Speaker 11: I found I'm very happy about it. You know, I
[19:56] Speaker 11: felt like it was part of our process. You know,
[19:59] Speaker 11: it's not that we have drafted a defensive tackle or
[20:02] Speaker 11: signed one sooner if they'd become available or or kept
[20:04] Speaker 11: dexter if that was something we could do. Those are
[20:07] Speaker 11: all things that are on the table. But as it went,
[20:10] Speaker 11: I thought we did a good job of kind of
[20:12] Speaker 11: responding to the situation as it unfolded. And now we
[20:16] Speaker 11: feel really good about our group in there. Our room
[20:18] Speaker 11: looks good to me. I'm excited about it. I think
[20:20] Speaker 11: we've got the guys we need.
[20:23] Speaker 1: Let's bring Mark Ross Steve Which back into the conversation here. Mark,
[20:26] Speaker 1: it's always fun with the new head coaches. You've basically
[20:28] Speaker 1: got an eight month victory tour. We got it, we
[20:31] Speaker 1: figured it out new day. Then he played games since
[20:34] Speaker 1: September and they start right off with the Dallas Cowboys. Here.
[20:37] Speaker 1: What's left in your mind to do for the Giants?
[20:40] Speaker 3: You're right, Tom, everybody's winning when you hire a new
[20:43] Speaker 3: coach and then reality strikes.
[20:45] Speaker 1: But for the Giants, it's it's really about learning.
[20:47] Speaker 3: And it's not just John Harball in there and how
[20:50] Speaker 3: he's going to put his stamp, but the whole entire
[20:52] Speaker 3: staff is new, and that's offensive coordinator Matt Naggie and
[20:55] Speaker 3: defensive coordinator Denard Wilson. So it also special teams coordinator Chris,
[21:00] Speaker 3: So it's just the learning aspect for all of the
[21:03] Speaker 3: players who were already on the team and had to
[21:06] Speaker 3: already learn the schemes from the past, and then of
[21:08] Speaker 3: course the rookies as well and the.
[21:10] Speaker 1: Free agents who came in for other teams.
[21:12] Speaker 3: So the to do list is to try to get
[21:14] Speaker 3: acclimated and comfortable as much as possible with the schemes
[21:18] Speaker 3: with one another, with your new teammates, and of course
[21:21] Speaker 3: you have a lot of time to do that, Steve,
[21:23] Speaker 3: but that's definitely the key aspect for any team that
[21:26] Speaker 3: brings in a head coach. People forget it's the whole
[21:29] Speaker 3: entire staff and a whole new way of getting taught
[21:32] Speaker 3: from these coaches.
[21:33] Speaker 4: That's such a great point mark that often goes overlook
[21:36] Speaker 4: and you make a transition like this. But also one
[21:38] Speaker 4: thing that would need to be taken note of is
[21:40] Speaker 4: what were John Harbaugh's Baltimore teams known for their defense?
[21:43] Speaker 4: And right now it is time for the Giants to
[21:46] Speaker 4: kind of put their mouth with their money. Is when
[21:48] Speaker 4: it comes to defense. You just heard John Harbaugh talk
[21:50] Speaker 4: about the guys up front. They go out and they
[21:52] Speaker 4: get DJ Reeder, they get Shelby Harris. This is after
[21:55] Speaker 4: they trade away Dexter Lawrence. So how good are those
[21:58] Speaker 4: veteran players going to be? What's this new scheme that
[22:01] Speaker 4: they're coming down that they're getting ready to play with
[22:03] Speaker 4: Dennard Wilson, who is a former Ravens coach, you know,
[22:06] Speaker 4: defensive coach. They've got Abdull Carter, They've got some of
[22:09] Speaker 4: these younger players from last year. How are they going
[22:12] Speaker 4: to fit them into this scheme? So, Mark, you talked
[22:14] Speaker 4: about the learning of it. People want them to learn,
[22:17] Speaker 4: but they want them to learn at an accelerated level
[22:20] Speaker 4: because they saw how bad things were this year. They
[22:22] Speaker 4: had two first round draft picks. They want to go
[22:24] Speaker 4: ahead and get these guys going, especially Arvil Reeves, the
[22:27] Speaker 4: guy on the defense is going to play off ball,
[22:29] Speaker 4: the linebacker that can do a lot of things with them.
[22:31] Speaker 4: So it's going to be learning for all the coaches
[22:33] Speaker 4: and the players. But again, I think defensively upfront, when
[22:36] Speaker 4: it comes to a John Harbaugh football team, this is
[22:38] Speaker 4: where they need to make their money. They need to
[22:41] Speaker 4: put their mouth where their money is.
[22:44] Speaker 2: I think it's really simple what the Giants still have
[22:46] Speaker 2: to do. They have to pull it all together there
[22:49] Speaker 2: is as much optimism and renewed confidence around the New
[22:52] Speaker 2: York Giants as there has been in years in East Rutherford.
[22:57] Speaker 2: But now they've got to pull it all together. They've
[22:59] Speaker 2: got a lot, a lot of new players. John Harper
[23:01] Speaker 2: has changed so much in that building. Is it all
[23:04] Speaker 2: going to come together? Are they going to get off
[23:06] Speaker 2: to a fast start? They've gotten into holes early in
[23:08] Speaker 2: the last few seasons. Can he change that part of
[23:12] Speaker 2: the Giants experience as well? That is what we are
[23:14] Speaker 2: going to be watching early in the season. All right, Steve,
[23:18] Speaker 2: Let's turn our attention to the rest of the NFC East.
[23:21] Speaker 2: Let's start with the Commanders, because they would like to
[23:23] Speaker 2: change direction.
[23:23] Speaker 1: From where they were going last year.
[23:25] Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm talking to somebody who used to be with
[23:27] Speaker 4: the franchise. You know they talked about how quarterback Jade
[23:29] Speaker 4: and Daniels covered up so many of their flaws. Well,
[23:31] Speaker 4: he's back and they've tried to address personnel wise some
[23:35] Speaker 4: of their flaws. With one area right now where it
[23:37] Speaker 4: still seems like they're a little bit exposed. Is explosive.
[23:39] Speaker 4: This a wide receiver. You've got Terry McLaurin, but you
[23:42] Speaker 4: really don't have a whole lot of juice in the
[23:44] Speaker 4: other spots, and they drafted Antonio Williams. He's kind of
[23:47] Speaker 4: their new Deebo Samuel type of player out of Clemson,
[23:50] Speaker 4: a really exciting player.
[23:51] Speaker 1: Or you look at the free agis out there, someone
[23:53] Speaker 1: like Stefan Dix.
[23:54] Speaker 4: He continues to be linked to the Commanders one because
[23:56] Speaker 4: he fills an area of need. He's also a DMV guy.
[24:00] Speaker 4: He's from that area, so he could help out. So
[24:02] Speaker 4: that's another player they should look at. But when you
[24:05] Speaker 4: look at the lack of explosions, even a running back,
[24:08] Speaker 4: right you got Bill Cross, Gay Merit. They add were
[24:10] Speaker 4: shot white from Tampa. But these are still not the
[24:13] Speaker 4: explosive type of hitters that you kind of need for.
[24:16] Speaker 4: Who could turn a six yard game into a sixteen
[24:18] Speaker 4: yard game in today's NFL.
[24:20] Speaker 1: Mark Well, Steve, I'm gonna go on the other side
[24:22] Speaker 1: of the ball.
[24:22] Speaker 3: You talk about the Giants putting their mouth where the
[24:25] Speaker 3: money is where the Commander's defense spent three hundred and
[24:28] Speaker 3: fifteen million dollars mostly on the defensive side of the
[24:31] Speaker 3: ball in free agency to a defense that was abysmal
[24:34] Speaker 3: last year, last in the league in yards giving up
[24:37] Speaker 3: and twenty eighth in points per game at twenty six
[24:40] Speaker 3: point nine, so they got nowhere to go but up.
[24:42] Speaker 3: But also they spent a ton of money on a
[24:44] Speaker 3: Dafe oh Way and Kalevan Chasen and Leo Chanall and
[24:48] Speaker 3: Amik Roberson and Nick Cross, So at all levels of
[24:51] Speaker 3: the defense, they spent big money, top of the market
[24:54] Speaker 3: money for those guys and then turn around and drafted
[24:57] Speaker 3: Sonny Styles, the fantastic linebacker for all Io State. So
[25:01] Speaker 3: here it is, you spent a ton of money with
[25:03] Speaker 3: a bunch of pieces there, and now they have to
[25:06] Speaker 3: perform like the one thing to be together. Also, a
[25:09] Speaker 3: new defensive coordinator in there as well, talked about with
[25:11] Speaker 3: that with the Giants. So a lot of new pieces
[25:14] Speaker 3: with a new defensive coordinator. How will that all come together?
[25:17] Speaker 1: Tom pr Let's talk about the team that won this
[25:20] Speaker 1: division last year, despite how it may feel from the outside,
[25:23] Speaker 1: it's the Philadelphia Eagles. There there once again off season
[25:27] Speaker 1: to do list. Mark would certainly seem to revolver on
[25:30] Speaker 1: the guy who may not be an Eagle come June second,
[25:33] Speaker 1: can't be the guy that's just in the picture right there.
[25:35] Speaker 3: Yes, let's talk about aj Brown as we've been talking
[25:38] Speaker 3: about him forever until this is done and hopefully, you know,
[25:41] Speaker 3: June first is that date that it's looking like a
[25:44] Speaker 3: trade will happen with AJ Brown. You know, that's where
[25:47] Speaker 3: the cap hit will significantly go down from forty million
[25:50] Speaker 3: to around sixteen million of the dead cap hit there
[25:53] Speaker 3: for AJ Brown by trading him. And you know, here
[25:55] Speaker 3: living in Philadelphia, you know, it's just funny every day
[25:58] Speaker 3: just listening to the Philly fans, this saga of this
[26:01] Speaker 3: drama that's going on forever. But from a football standpoint,
[26:04] Speaker 3: it really can help the Eagles just because you're removing
[26:08] Speaker 3: the distraction. Yes, AJ Brown can still play at a
[26:11] Speaker 3: high level, as he showed, but when you're week in
[26:13] Speaker 3: and week out have to deal with the drama, Steve,
[26:16] Speaker 3: that can be additioned by subtraction. And hopefully this will
[26:20] Speaker 3: come around that June first time to see who the
[26:22] Speaker 3: trade partner is and how the Eagles will address that.
[26:24] Speaker 3: Already step one, drafting mkayle Lemon in the first round.
[26:27] Speaker 1: Of the draft. So the pavement, the road is paved
[26:30] Speaker 1: there for an exit for AJ Brown, right.
[26:32] Speaker 4: They brought it down to Dontavian Wicks as well, So
[26:34] Speaker 4: again that looks like it's going to happen. But regardless
[26:37] Speaker 4: of what that situation plays out to be, Mark, we
[26:40] Speaker 4: know the biggest thing with the Eagles is their offensive identity.
[26:43] Speaker 4: Last year was an absolute disaster. Kevin Patulo, the oci
[26:46] Speaker 4: comes out, he gets fired. You have their on line coach. So, yeah,
[26:49] Speaker 4: we had bad play calling without Seawan Manning. A first
[26:52] Speaker 4: time play caller comes in. He's got to figure out
[26:55] Speaker 4: the identity. And this is somebody who's from the Seawan McVay,
[26:58] Speaker 4: Matt Lafleur tree. So those gonna be a lot of
[27:00] Speaker 4: pre snap motion, a lot of things to determine the
[27:03] Speaker 4: post snap reeds. So but they've got to get back
[27:05] Speaker 4: to the run game. If this offensive line can stay
[27:07] Speaker 4: healthy and Saquon Barkley and the tush push becomes part
[27:10] Speaker 4: of the Eagles vernacular again, that's when their offense runs
[27:14] Speaker 4: at its most efficient and affluent, putting money where the
[27:19] Speaker 4: mouth is. That's what they've got to do, is they've
[27:20] Speaker 4: got to regain some type of identity, and it starts
[27:24] Speaker 4: with the run game and the health and the durability of.
[27:28] Speaker 1: That offensive line. Affluent offense. Say that five times vocal
[27:33] Speaker 1: warm up too. It will come on air. All right,
[27:35] Speaker 1: So more to come. AFC East offseason to the list
[27:38] Speaker 1: comes up tomorrow, but after this is sent out to
[27:40] Speaker 1: the AFC West Chargers making some bold moves in the
[27:44] Speaker 1: draft and clean adding a key Mezidor to that pass rust.
[27:47] Speaker 1: They also added a veteran playmaker earlier today. We'll break
[27:51] Speaker 1: that down next on the insiders. A big name pre
[28:01] Speaker 1: agent has landed in LA, David and Joku, the longtime
[28:05] Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown, agreeing to terms with the Chargers on a
[28:09] Speaker 1: one year deal worth up to eight million dollars, the
[28:12] Speaker 1: first splash at that position this offseason for LA, which
[28:16] Speaker 1: also added Charlie Kohlar. Here's what one of the Chargers
[28:20] Speaker 1: new tight ends had to say about the newest.
[28:23] Speaker 12: It's the NFL man, someone's always signing. There's always great players.
[28:27] Speaker 12: I'm a firm believer in that, Like good players make
[28:30] Speaker 12: the teams better, all wone gets better together like rising
[28:33] Speaker 12: tide rises all ships.
[28:34] Speaker 1: Have a lot of respect for David.
[28:36] Speaker 12: It's funny, I'm not like on social media a ton
[28:39] Speaker 12: and so someone brought up this morning and I know
[28:41] Speaker 12: what they're talking about, because I just I'm a little
[28:43] Speaker 12: jetly because I was like trying to that, I was like, oh,
[28:45] Speaker 12: sweet dude, I got so much respect for David Sawm
[28:49] Speaker 12: play Cleveland for four years. You know, he's a really
[28:51] Speaker 12: good player and nice to have another veteran presidence in
[28:54] Speaker 12: the room. It's a young room, and I respect for Ronde.
[28:57] Speaker 12: Like I'm a big believer and I'll keep saying that,
[28:59] Speaker 12: like I'm super confident in my ability to play football
[29:02] Speaker 12: and help in all that special of the game. But
[29:04] Speaker 12: also like I think humility, especially in a room like
[29:07] Speaker 12: a tight end room where you have asked you so
[29:08] Speaker 12: many things, go such a long way, and I think,
[29:11] Speaker 12: like to have more good experienced players, it's only good
[29:15] Speaker 12: for the room, and it's to make us better as
[29:17] Speaker 12: a team, make.
[29:17] Speaker 1: Us players a room.
[29:18] Speaker 12: I'm excited to work with these guys, if you knowing better.
[29:21] Speaker 1: Charlie Colar, the former Raven now teaming up with his
[29:24] Speaker 1: one time AFC North rival out there in La Welcome
[29:27] Speaker 1: back to the insiders. Tom Pilliser, Judy Matista, Mark Ross
[29:30] Speaker 1: and Steve White. Steve I'll start with you. There's always
[29:33] Speaker 1: some of these big name for agents hanging out there
[29:36] Speaker 1: after the draft trying to find a landing spot here
[29:38] Speaker 1: and Djoku for a chargers offense that wants to use
[29:42] Speaker 1: the tight ends. This is an intriguing fit.
[29:44] Speaker 4: It really is, because this is a team that didn't
[29:46] Speaker 4: use multiple tight ends.
[29:47] Speaker 1: That's a lot.
[29:48] Speaker 4: And now Mike McDaniel comes over from Miami, he's not
[29:51] Speaker 4: necessarily a multiple tight end guy either as well. You
[29:55] Speaker 4: twelve personnel, you know, one running back, two tight ends
[29:57] Speaker 4: only about eleven percent of the offensive snaps last year,
[30:00] Speaker 4: and when he came to thirteen personnel, one running back,
[30:03] Speaker 4: three tight ends he used at.
[30:04] Speaker 1: Four percent of the time.
[30:06] Speaker 4: That should significantly change because these are three different types
[30:10] Speaker 4: of tight ends. You talk about Charlie Kolar, who looks
[30:13] Speaker 4: like he spends a majority of time in his weight
[30:15] Speaker 4: room on the shrugs machine. He's a blocking tight end.
[30:18] Speaker 4: The Djokoo's an inline tight end. You can go out
[30:20] Speaker 4: and receive the ball as well. It gives you about
[30:23] Speaker 4: four or five touchdowns a year. And then to Ronde
[30:25] Speaker 4: Gatz and he's more of the flex motion, wide receiver
[30:28] Speaker 4: type tight end. So depending on the circumstances or the
[30:31] Speaker 4: opponent or the defensive matchup, they've got the option to
[30:34] Speaker 4: go as big as thirteen personnel. But again, this whole
[30:37] Speaker 4: team is changing offensive schematically talk about it last week.
[30:41] Speaker 4: This offensive line, it's now an outside run zone scheme
[30:44] Speaker 4: instead of kind of a power zone scheme, are a
[30:47] Speaker 4: power run scheme. So it's changing in a lot of
[30:49] Speaker 4: different ways. And adding someone establishes Najoku is going to
[30:52] Speaker 4: get the attention of defensive coordinators, make some personnel matchups defensively,
[30:56] Speaker 4: really tough on the Chargers.
[30:58] Speaker 1: This is just another weapon. Mark, Yeah, Steve, it's changing,
[31:01] Speaker 1: but it's getting back to what Harball likes to do. It.
[31:03] Speaker 3: If you've known about him historically, going back to Stanford
[31:07] Speaker 3: and then San Francisco, Michigan where he used two and
[31:10] Speaker 3: three tight ends all the time, and that they were
[31:13] Speaker 3: known for that when you go in there and scout
[31:15] Speaker 3: his programs and then also game plan against them in
[31:17] Speaker 3: the NFL. So this is getting back to how he
[31:20] Speaker 3: likes to play tough, hard nosed football with those multiple
[31:24] Speaker 3: bodies there. And good for Mike McDaniel for a guy
[31:27] Speaker 3: that when they met, and of course when he was
[31:29] Speaker 3: interviewing for that job, if this was part of the plan,
[31:32] Speaker 3: he's like, yep, I know, I'm used to having the
[31:33] Speaker 3: Tyreek Hills and Jalen Waddles of the world and Devin
[31:36] Speaker 3: a chance.
[31:36] Speaker 1: But I can coach this way as well.
[31:38] Speaker 3: And the best coaches that I've been around, Steve are
[31:41] Speaker 3: those that can adapt and adjust to their personnel and
[31:44] Speaker 3: not just say this is just the way I'm doing it.
[31:47] Speaker 3: An interesting nugget, though, is Mike McDaniel, bet you did
[31:50] Speaker 3: get fight for Brennan Thompson, the rookie there from Mississippi State,
[31:54] Speaker 3: he of the four two six forty at the Colebote,
[31:57] Speaker 3: I guarantee you, he said, let me just sneak one
[31:59] Speaker 3: of these guys in.
[32:00] Speaker 2: Their coach, Steve, they've got another pairing that we're all
[32:06] Speaker 2: going to be watching a team Messagor of the rookie
[32:09] Speaker 2: and Khalil Mack together.
[32:11] Speaker 1: What's that going to look like?
[32:12] Speaker 4: Well, I absolutely love this, but let's not forget about
[32:14] Speaker 4: the Chargers' best pass rusher. As we're watching greeting of
[32:18] Speaker 4: these two and that's two ly twe up Polo to
[32:20] Speaker 4: also and you know, speaking to people over there, they
[32:23] Speaker 4: can have all three of these guys on the field
[32:25] Speaker 4: at the same time because you can reduce Messidor who
[32:28] Speaker 4: you're seeing in the sweattop right there, or to or
[32:30] Speaker 4: Teoloa to inside is a tackle and have Mac coming
[32:34] Speaker 4: off one edge and one of these other guys coming
[32:36] Speaker 4: off of another edge. So the versatility of their edge
[32:39] Speaker 4: players based and then based on some of the guys
[32:42] Speaker 4: that they have stacked on the inside, they really feel
[32:45] Speaker 4: like they can do a lot of different things with
[32:48] Speaker 4: some of the personnel. Of course, they've got the ultimate
[32:50] Speaker 4: joker in Derwin James, the nickel safety, corner, linebacker, whatever
[32:53] Speaker 4: you want to call him, to mix with these guys
[32:55] Speaker 4: up front, and that versatility in the athleticism of adding
[32:58] Speaker 4: someone like Messidor who is an absolute game wrecker, is
[33:01] Speaker 4: something they feel very good about at strengthening that front seven.
[33:06] Speaker 1: You're right, see if I love the addition of Mesadora.
[33:08] Speaker 3: I thought he was the best pure pass rusher in
[33:11] Speaker 3: the draft as far as his versatility, power of the moves,
[33:15] Speaker 3: the relentlessness, and as you mentioned, the versatility, and this
[33:19] Speaker 3: is not something you're guessing at. With the versatility, You've
[33:21] Speaker 3: seen Mesador at Miami play all along the front. You've
[33:24] Speaker 3: seen Tully in college in there with the Chargers play
[33:28] Speaker 3: all along the front, and even Khalil Mack you know
[33:31] Speaker 3: they can do that with him as well. So this
[33:33] Speaker 3: is not something where they're getting a bunch of pass
[33:35] Speaker 3: rushers together and expecting guys to do something they're not
[33:38] Speaker 3: used to doing. They've done this. All three of those
[33:40] Speaker 3: guys have done that, played in multiple spots. So it
[33:43] Speaker 3: should really give them a nice little game plan to say,
[33:47] Speaker 3: where are guys coming from. Lots of stunts, lots of movement,
[33:50] Speaker 3: and guys playing in multiple gaps and positions, which should
[33:53] Speaker 3: wreck have it on that offensive game plan.
[33:56] Speaker 1: Mark, Steve, great stuff tonight, Thank you both. We will
[33:58] Speaker 1: talk to you again. So we also have sad news
[34:02] Speaker 1: tonight out of Denver. The Broncos have lost a Ring
[34:05] Speaker 1: of Famer. Former quarterback Craig Morton, who led the Broncos
[34:09] Speaker 1: to their first Super Bowl appearance, passed away on Saturday.
[34:12] Speaker 1: Morton spent six seasons with the Broncos from nineteen seventy
[34:15] Speaker 1: seven to eighty two and led Denver to its first
[34:18] Speaker 1: playoff appearance and a berth in Super Bowl twelve. Greg
[34:22] Speaker 1: Morton was eighty three.
[34:25] Speaker 2: Jet's first round tight end. Kenyon Sadiq was at a
[34:28] Speaker 2: rookie mini caamp. He is going to be a favorite
[34:31] Speaker 2: target for the Jets and he already feels like he's
[34:33] Speaker 2: very familiar with Gino Smith. Here's what he had to
[34:36] Speaker 2: say about his new quarterback.
[34:39] Speaker 8: I'm a Seahawks fan, not really anymore, but how was
[34:42] Speaker 8: a Seahawks fan being a West Coast guy, So of
[34:44] Speaker 8: course I watched some of did great things in Seattle,
[34:46] Speaker 8: and I said, he's a vet, so it'll be great
[34:48] Speaker 8: to get around him kind of, you know, pick his
[34:50] Speaker 8: band a little bit, and you know, just kind of
[34:51] Speaker 8: see how processes things.
[34:53] Speaker 1: He's been in the game for a long time, so yeah,
[34:56] Speaker 1: bo Nick's going into year three high expectations and also
[35:00] Speaker 1: so an extended rehab process, a couple surgeries to fix
[35:03] Speaker 1: that ankle that he injured in the AFC Divisional game
[35:06] Speaker 1: against Buffalo, couldn't play in the AFC Championship, but Sean
[35:09] Speaker 1: Payton says he's making progress.
[35:13] Speaker 13: I was just talking to bow We had five other
[35:14] Speaker 13: players that stage surgeries where there's a step they evaluate
[35:20] Speaker 13: and then a second step. We had five. He was
[35:22] Speaker 13: the sixth that that actually went through that. No surprises.
[35:26] Speaker 13: We feel real good about where he's at and you
[35:30] Speaker 13: guys will have a chance to see it, you know,
[35:32] Speaker 13: here in a few weeks, but clearly full speed by
[35:36] Speaker 13: training camp. We just we just want to be smart
[35:39] Speaker 13: relative to holding him back a little.
[35:43] Speaker 2: So bears the beginning Ben Johnson's second season as a
[35:48] Speaker 2: head coach. There coming off a breakout season where they
[35:51] Speaker 2: barely lost to the Rams in the divisional round, and
[35:54] Speaker 2: Ben Johnson likes what he is seeing already from this group.
[36:00] Speaker 14: Force, this offseason program and getting them integrated with the Vets.
[36:03] Speaker 14: Some of these young guys that they're going into the
[36:05] Speaker 14: second year. You know, Colston's made a big jump, Luther's
[36:08] Speaker 14: made a big jump, as you would expect, uh and
[36:11] Speaker 14: and those guys were around for most of the offseason
[36:13] Speaker 14: as well.
[36:14] Speaker 1: You know you could you could go by the weight.
[36:15] Speaker 14: Room and see them in. They're getting some work in
[36:18] Speaker 14: in February, March, and April, so I think that has
[36:21] Speaker 14: something to do with that. But now I think we
[36:24] Speaker 14: are group for one weekend. In terms of the fuel work,
[36:29] Speaker 14: I'm really pleased with what it looks like. These guys
[36:31] Speaker 14: are dialed in. They're very focused, and like we talked
[36:35] Speaker 14: about a couple of weeks ago, the whole coaching staff
[36:37] Speaker 14: is going back to the basics, and those guys are
[36:39] Speaker 14: really embracing that mindset.
[36:42] Speaker 1: Rice Young not a receiver in the first round this year.
[36:45] Speaker 1: It was a tackle Monroe freely making me walk to
[36:48] Speaker 1: his first practice of rookie mini camps. What Dave Canalis
[36:52] Speaker 1: had to say about their first rounder.
[36:55] Speaker 15: I mean, first of all, he looks great. He's been
[36:58] Speaker 15: he's been working really hard, just just trying to continue
[37:00] Speaker 15: to you know, increase his strength and do those things.
[37:05] Speaker 1: Showed up.
[37:05] Speaker 15: I think he was, you know, about three twenty five
[37:08] Speaker 15: and looked great, moved well, showed the length and all
[37:11] Speaker 15: the things, and you know, he's just got to get
[37:13] Speaker 15: comfortable with some of our schemes and concepts playing next
[37:15] Speaker 15: to a tight end who might be blocking front side
[37:18] Speaker 15: of going backside, and uh settling into some of those things.
[37:21] Speaker 1: But looks like a guy that really enjoys football. Those
[37:23] Speaker 1: are the types of guys that we love to have.
[37:24] Speaker 8: Here.
[37:26] Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals were in a rookie camp. This is Carson
[37:29] Speaker 2: Beck to Jeremiah Love. Those are two guys we could
[37:32] Speaker 2: be hearing about it and talking about for a very
[37:34] Speaker 2: long time. But the real star of rookie camp was
[37:37] Speaker 2: a very special guest. Here is Chase Basantas on Larry Fitzgerald.
[37:42] Speaker 5: It's been amazing, man. Some of the dream come true.
[37:47] Speaker 5: It's a great organization. I feel like it's been a
[37:48] Speaker 5: great three days. I'm really happy.
[37:51] Speaker 1: So the team posts that Larry Fitzgerald was that practice.
[37:54] Speaker 1: What was it like to be one of the franchises?
[37:56] Speaker 5: Like, yeah, real cool, future Hall of Famer, give us
[37:59] Speaker 5: a little and just like what the future is going
[38:02] Speaker 5: to be like?
[38:02] Speaker 1: So real quick listening schedule. Release is set for Thursday night,
[38:08] Speaker 1: but we're already getting some tasty morsels. Let's start it
[38:11] Speaker 1: out with the Sunday Night football debut September thirteenth. It
[38:15] Speaker 1: is Cowboys Giants. Yes, they do this almost every year,
[38:18] Speaker 1: eleven week one meetings, ten Cowboys wins. Jackson dartin Company
[38:23] Speaker 1: will try to stop that from happening this year. Judy
[38:27] Speaker 1: can't wait for that and can't wait for this one.
[38:30] Speaker 2: The very first TNF game of the season is going
[38:33] Speaker 2: to open new high Mark Stadium Lions at Bill's September seventeenth.
[38:39] Speaker 1: That looks like one of the coolest stadiums we're going
[38:41] Speaker 1: to have in the league.
[38:42] Speaker 2: I cannot wait to see it, and then I'm looking
[38:48] Speaker 2: forward to seeing in Cleveland. Oh no, we're going to
[38:52] Speaker 2: this one first. Sorry, how about that?
[38:55] Speaker 1: More Cowboys Judy. Come on, you knew that was coming.
[38:58] Speaker 1: Eagles Cowboys Thanksgiving Day only the third time that they
[39:01] Speaker 1: have ever met. The last time. This is how long
[39:03] Speaker 1: it's been. Chip Kelly was the head coach of the Eagles.
[39:07] Speaker 1: There's been a few regimes, a couple of Super Bowls
[39:08] Speaker 1: since then. Eagles Cowboys with your pumpkin pie.
[39:12] Speaker 2: Judy, speaking of pumpkin, the pumpkin colored uniforms with the
[39:16] Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. This is one of the coolest stories we
[39:18] Speaker 2: have going on right now. The Fino brothers together in
[39:21] Speaker 2: Cleveland Brown's camp. That is h Spencer the offensive tackle,
[39:26] Speaker 2: blocking Logan the pass rusher.
[39:29] Speaker 1: Here they are on being teammates. It's so cool.
[39:34] Speaker 16: I mean, there's this so you hear all these stories
[39:36] Speaker 16: of how Duzel I'll start to struggle because they feel
[39:39] Speaker 16: like they're alone, that it's hard to fill alone on
[39:42] Speaker 16: with the dude that have lived with my entire life.
[39:45] Speaker 16: Just now, he's just a few a few doors down
[39:47] Speaker 16: in the hotel. So it's it's been awesome.
[39:49] Speaker 1: Have you guys always like competed against each other and
[39:52] Speaker 1: everything is that's sort of what your relationship has been like?
[39:54] Speaker 1: Just competitive?
[39:55] Speaker 17: Oh yeah, everything, I mean we're now that we're adults,
[39:57] Speaker 17: were a little bit better about you know, not this
[40:00] Speaker 17: at the end, but I mean it's been like that.
[40:02] Speaker 17: Our whole line from arguing in the back of the cards,
[40:04] Speaker 17: getting on, playing basketball, wrestling, you name it. We competed everything.
[40:09] Speaker 1: Calm me in for the Fano Brothers reality show if
[40:12] Speaker 1: the Browns decided to go that direction, and if both
[40:14] Speaker 1: of them, namely Logan, actually make the team. Mike Dan,
[40:18] Speaker 1: a two time Super Bowl CHAMPI with the Chiefs, headed
[40:20] Speaker 1: to the Bills a one year deal. One of the
[40:23] Speaker 1: top veterans still available on the market, Dan and now
[40:26] Speaker 1: landing in Buffalo. Adrian Peterson not coming back. He played
[40:31] Speaker 1: a lot there at the end, well passed most of
[40:33] Speaker 1: the time. Most running backs would have walked away. But
[40:35] Speaker 1: that's how rare Adrian Peterson was. Now a very special honor.
[40:39] Speaker 1: He is headed into the Ring of Honor this fall
[40:43] Speaker 1: a mere pit stop on his way surely to Canton, Ohio.
[40:49] Speaker 1: This one's personal for me. Happy fourteenth birthday. Doug my Dog,
[40:54] Speaker 1: a frequent contributor, one might say, the fifth host of
[40:57] Speaker 1: the show. That's a long life there for a very
[41:00] Speaker 1: small dog who the moment that candle was blown out,
[41:03] Speaker 1: grabbed one of the treats and ran away. Because Judy,
[41:06] Speaker 1: over fourteen years, he's become conditioned to believe if he
[41:10] Speaker 1: eats anything off a plate, he's getting away with something.
[41:14] Speaker 2: First of all, what were the treats? Where they just
[41:17] Speaker 2: dog trace or did you do something special in fourteenth big?
[41:21] Speaker 1: I believe they were dog something dog related. I think
[41:25] Speaker 1: they came from a dog place. Don't want to feed
[41:27] Speaker 1: him people food. But yeah, but he's lost all of
[41:30] Speaker 1: his teeth and now he's just got that tongue that
[41:32] Speaker 1: hangs out there. He's a good puppy. We're glad to
[41:36] Speaker 1: have him. He would have made an appearance on the show,
[41:38] Speaker 1: but my wife took him out of the house because
[41:39] Speaker 1: I texted right for the show began saying, can you
[41:41] Speaker 1: stop Doug from barking? Bout to do a TV show
[41:44] Speaker 1: down here in the basement. She took that literally left
[41:47] Speaker 1: the house. I texted, can he come on the show? No,
[41:49] Speaker 1: he's not here. Doug's having a better night than I am.
[41:52] Speaker 1: I'm gonna go join him, maybe for a pump cup somewhere.
[41:54] Speaker 1: Thanks for watching, everybody, we'll see it. Happy birthday, Die.
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