# UFO sightings, meditation and portals - Don't Be Told

An episode of [Pursuit of the Paranormal](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1541466512), 29 Jul 2026, 1 h 08 min.

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In this episode of Pursuit Of The Paranormal Podcast we speak to Bo from Don't Be Told. We discuss his paranormal, UAP and meditation experiences and he discusses the portals that stars are. Follow Bo - Tiktok - www.tiktok.com/dontbetoldticktock Youtube - https://youtube.com/@dontbetoldproductions www.pursuitoftheparanormal.co.uk Got a strange story to tell us? Drop us a voicemail and it may appear on an up coming episode

## Transcript

[0:00] i started to see an egyptian type thing so it's
[0:06] like a person it wasn't super clear because i'm
[0:10] trying to figure out who i'm looking at here
[0:13] and i'm starting to see it but then around this
[0:15] person it looked like an old mirror and then
[0:19] it turned out within the inside of the mirror
[0:23] was that person and it's an egyptian looking
[0:27] guy so as i'm looking at that i'm thinking this
[0:31] mirror it looks like a portal i'm touching on
[0:33] portals again So as I'm looking at this Egyptian
[0:36] type person My awareness then goes into this
[0:41] Egyptian person. I'm not saying it goes into
[0:43] him, but my awareness is then as the Egyptian
[0:46] person I'm saying me. It's my juice myself Looking
[0:50] at me. So I was then seen myself Meditating in
[0:56] my room. This is where it's a bit like what the
[0:59] fuck? So once I see myself looking what I was
[1:04] feeling as I'm the Egyptian. And then came back
[1:07] to my awareness as me, seeing the Egyptian again.
[1:11] So I'm like, Jesus, I'm flicking back and forward
[1:13] here. And I was like, who are you? And then I
[1:17] just telepathically be getting this, I am you.
[1:32] You're listening to Pursuit of the Paranormal
[1:34] Podcast with your hosts, Ash Ellis and Greg Tomlinson.
[1:41] Hey Ash, how's it going? Very well, Greg. How
[1:43] are you doing? Yeah, good thanks. Good thanks.
[1:46] Last weekend, which would be this weekend, which
[1:48] is tomorrow for us, we're out. We're off out.
[1:51] And if you've seen our TikTok, you will see that
[1:54] we are off out to two locations, an abandoned
[1:57] care home and a haunted forest. Yes. One of those
[2:00] locations I've never been to. I've been to the
[2:03] care home and I can't wait for you to see it.
[2:06] It's incredible. It's creepy and it's scary as
[2:11] fuck. And hopefully we can still get in because
[2:14] it's amazing. Yeah, apparently two weeks ago
[2:16] you could, so hopefully we're all good. We'll
[2:20] soon find out. We will. This time tomorrow we'll
[2:23] be there. We will be there. We will be there.
[2:26] So we've just wrapped up an episode where it
[2:33] started off as one thing and ended as another
[2:39] thing. I went to places I never thought I'd go.
[2:43] Same. Not on this podcast anyway. No. I've read
[2:47] many books on the subject. Um, so we started
[2:50] off, um, talking about UFO experience. Then we
[2:57] covered off meditation and then we went into
[3:03] new world order, who's running the world and
[3:07] why. So it was a lot from the episode. And I
[3:14] think for a lot of people, you might have to
[3:18] just suspend belief. For a little bit just why
[3:22] listen go with it go with it Listen listen to
[3:26] the whole thing Then make it in your mind. Yeah,
[3:30] let's go So welcome along bow. How are you? Thanks
[3:33] for joining us. I'm good wicked nice to meet
[3:36] you both. Yeah, you too. It's um We haven't spoken
[3:41] um before we we have guests that return so um,
[3:47] it's nice to speak to somebody new so as listeners
[3:51] will hear you're from the northwest of the country
[3:54] yeah northwest manchester again i'm being overrun
[3:57] by northerners and then tomorrow i'm up north
[4:04] so it's it's non -stop northern for me welcome
[4:08] along it's good good energy on the north you
[4:10] find a lot of the northerners are Look at the
[4:14] energy people. That's you know, that's why you're
[4:15] working with somebody. Yeah, i've got i've got
[4:18] a mug that says norther knowing training so She's
[4:21] trying to get me up north. It's trying to go
[4:23] to the northern powerhouse now with the uh, Number
[4:25] 10 north whatever that's uh, don't you dare go
[4:28] politics is quick into the Quick into the the
[4:32] episode Yeah, that's not starting Yeah, don't
[4:37] you I don't even know who andy bernham is properly,
[4:40] but I know he's from It's just another puppet.
[4:44] Absolutely. Absolutely. That's a whole nother
[4:46] episode as well. Yeah So we are speaking to you
[4:52] tonight babe because you've got a UFO Experience
[4:58] and experiences to talk about but before we go
[5:01] into sort of present -day stuff Yeah, we always
[5:04] like to have a chat with our guests and sort
[5:07] of go back a bit and get your sort of origin
[5:11] story. So Have you always been into the paranormal
[5:14] UAP UFOs? That kind of thing. So where did it
[5:19] start for you? Yeah, definitely. I've always
[5:23] ever since I can remember, I've always known
[5:26] there's more than what we're just saying. Oh,
[5:29] it's just us on the planet. I've always thought
[5:32] there's definitely more than that. I don't know
[5:36] why. It's not even because of as a kid growing
[5:38] up, it's not even because I've seen any proof
[5:39] of it. It's just a feeling that you get that
[5:43] Feeling like, well, of course, there's got to
[5:44] be more. So growing up, ghosts fascinated me.
[5:52] I used to feel like when I was a kid I'd see
[5:54] things. Now, you obviously get that story quite
[5:56] a lot with kids, don't you? But it just gets
[5:59] dismissed by people, you know, your parents and
[6:01] that. So when I was catching things at the side
[6:03] of my eyes, I used to just think, you know, whatever,
[6:06] it's just the imagination and that. But as you're
[6:09] going through school and as I was going through
[6:10] school, people would be talking about ghosts
[6:12] aren't real, you aliens aren't real and all that
[6:15] stuff. But I just I didn't resonate with that.
[6:17] I was like, it's shallow minded. How can you
[6:22] think there's nothing else? Again, it's not because
[6:24] I've actually been taught anything. It's just
[6:26] I just in a new I just knew there was more to
[6:29] it. And then growing up, aliens fascinated me.
[6:36] Superman fascinated me. He was an alien. I used
[6:39] to love Superman, but I used to love the fact
[6:41] that he was from another planet and he's coming
[6:43] here and he's doing his thing. Obviously he's
[6:46] got all these powers and all that stuff. So I
[6:47] used to pretend I'm Superman as a kid. I used
[6:49] to think I've got the powers. I used to love
[6:51] pretending I can fly around and stuff. And then
[6:54] I'd be looking at the stars thinking, where's
[6:56] my planet? But the more I'm getting into that
[6:58] in my imagination, I'm thinking, fucking actually,
[7:01] where am I from? And then I start thinking, am
[7:03] I even from here? So a lot started happening
[7:08] to me as a kid. Again, imagination running wild,
[7:11] as a lot of people would say, wouldn't it? And
[7:13] then, yeah, you just grow up, you watch films,
[7:15] you see films, and some things you just think,
[7:17] ah, rubbish. And then as you're growing older,
[7:19] you tend to find out they put a lot of things
[7:21] in films to either make you see the truth or
[7:25] make you think, ah, that'll never happen, especially
[7:27] the sci -fi. So if you look at the sci -fi, as
[7:30] we were growing up throughout the years, all
[7:31] the sci -fi films, you think you're bonkers,
[7:34] it'll never happen. but we were starting to find
[7:36] out and a lot of people have found out it's pretty
[7:39] much documentary on our episodes of life so yeah
[7:42] I've always been into all this mad stuff Do you
[7:46] have any like sort of paranormal experiences
[7:48] you mentioned ghosts and stuff when you were
[7:50] younger? yeah so the first thing I remember as
[7:55] well not first thing I remember but the first
[7:58] thing that sticks in my head was when I was in
[8:02] primary school this girl I won't mention the
[8:06] names but she had a family from related to some
[8:11] tribal family and they used to talk about the
[8:12] devil and satan and all this stuff and Contrarying
[8:15] up spirits as she was young the kid obviously
[8:19] all those kids They were I've had no idea what
[8:22] she's talking about, but she said do this thing
[8:24] And it was a call out. So it's like calling out
[8:28] and you'll see something tonight So I did it
[8:32] and then later that night when I was in bed.
[8:34] I buried my house probably about I don't know.
[8:38] What's the ages? I can't remember the ages in
[8:40] school. Maybe about seven, maybe younger. So
[8:44] I did this thing in school, as she said, and
[8:47] then I was in bed and then the curtains in my
[8:52] room looked like they were sitting on fire. They
[8:56] looked like they were sitting on fire. So I know
[8:59] I'm not asleep at this point. I think they're
[9:02] on fire. I'm squinting my eyes. I'm shaking my
[9:04] head. I'm under the covers. But then I looked
[9:07] again and they were fine. and then a little bit
[9:10] later he was like a certain section it was plain
[9:13] curtains there's no patterns certain section
[9:15] on the curtains but it's a flame so it's like
[9:18] a you know like the emoji you know on the phone
[9:21] where it's just that picture of a flame it's
[9:23] like that on the curtain so i shit myself because
[9:26] i've just seen a fire on the curtains now i'm
[9:30] a kid i've not took no drugs i'm not you know
[9:31] i'm not high or nothing like that i'm not even
[9:33] asleep i'm seeing this flame this fire so i'm
[9:36] shitting myself I'd start crying, shouting at
[9:39] my mum. I think I was younger than seven actually.
[9:43] I was probably younger than seven. So I didn't
[9:45] want to stay in my room. I went in my mum's room.
[9:50] And then I seen it on her curtains. So it followed
[9:53] me from my bedroom to her bedroom. And I seen
[9:57] the same flame on the curtain. And then I instantly
[10:00] thought, it's the devil. It's the devil. Because
[10:01] in the conversation with the kid in school, it's
[10:04] about you call the devil. you can see him and
[10:06] all that obviously you think wow okay whatever
[10:08] so i'm seeing this flame um that was that shit
[10:11] was out eventually went to sleep next day i believed
[10:14] in dimensions magic some sort of devil type stuff
[10:19] because i seen it there and then i think that's
[10:22] what made me it made me just know there's more
[10:25] to what we see because that because of the way
[10:27] she's told us to do something Might be some voodoo
[10:31] magic or whatever right now But we did it and
[10:34] it works and I seen it and I'll never forget
[10:36] that I always remember that so that's probably
[10:38] the first thing as a kid Yeah, you mentioned
[10:41] about seeing sort of things in the corner. You're
[10:44] right What what things did you did you see? So
[10:50] not that time, but as I've grown up I started
[10:53] seeing like shadows flash past me or maybe a
[11:00] white mist just flashed past me and then you
[11:02] double check in and you you're just denying it
[11:05] aren't you but i used to catch a lot of shadows
[11:07] even if i'm walking around as again as i'm growing
[11:10] up i've been walking around that's a shadow in
[11:13] a corner of just flickering my eyes and i think
[11:16] nothing of it really at the time um and that
[11:24] was that and that's that just gained me interest
[11:27] in in ghosts and obviously the things that we
[11:30] can't see and again you know I didn't really
[11:34] notice it happening much more. So as years have
[11:37] gone on, people will be saying things and then
[11:40] people will be saying, have you ever seen that?
[11:42] Or have you ever seen this? And I'd be like,
[11:43] yeah. And they'd be like, ah, sure, you're fucking
[11:45] weird. Have you ever tripped in and all that?
[11:48] No, mate, trust me. You see these things. Some
[11:50] people see them, some people don't. Some people
[11:52] just, eyelashes or someone just walked past you
[11:55] or something like that. Yeah, you can make the
[11:57] excuses, that's fine. But when it's yourself
[11:58] and you actually catch glimpses or something,
[12:00] whether it's... You know, I shot a white one
[12:02] or a black one or something like that. If you
[12:05] see it multiple, multiple, multiple times and
[12:07] you're growing up and you don't deny it to yourself,
[12:10] you do recognize it is something. I think when
[12:12] you start recognizing that what you're seeing
[12:15] isn't your imagination, it repeats a bit more.
[12:18] You tend to see other things happen in other
[12:21] ways, in other places. And as you go, I think
[12:23] when you acknowledge something, it gains its
[12:26] strength. If that makes sense. kind of fast -forwarding
[12:33] a little bit then to kind of more adult you.
[12:37] So the whole thing that's been going on, do you
[12:38] want to kind of explain what's been going on
[12:41] with your experiences that you had as an adult,
[12:44] what's happening now I guess? Well about recently
[12:47] then the UFO thing, the whole reason why I ended
[12:50] up chatting with Greg was I seen a video online
[12:53] that he's put up there and it's the the big orb
[12:56] in the sky just floating through obviously as
[12:59] time's gone on. people have these videos but
[13:04] everyone's denied them in the past and then you
[13:07] see more and more and this is why AI is out because
[13:09] it wants to confuse people even more they don't
[13:12] actually want it to be understood whether it's
[13:14] true or not because there's so much manipulation
[13:16] you can't guarantee anything digitalized now
[13:19] is actually fact because there's so much manipulation
[13:22] I know for a fact 100 % I've physically seen
[13:25] them so it's gone on for a few months Random
[13:29] times I'll go in the back garden at night. I'll
[13:32] be having a cig. I'll just be chilling. It's
[13:34] clear sky and Then I'm just looking and I'll
[13:38] just be thinking about something and then I'll
[13:40] see a big Flash ball of light now very much.
[13:43] There's no stars where I'm looking now to say
[13:46] I'm I'm at my door I'm looking out. I've got
[13:48] quite a clear sky. There's no Buildings. There's
[13:50] nothing in the way. There's no light pollution
[13:52] during these times either. There's no massive
[13:57] stars where you might think it's just a star
[13:58] flickering because literally the light that I'm
[14:00] seeing it's probably about a mile away you don't
[14:04] even see in that far it seems pretty close so
[14:07] the first time it was like a like just a flash
[14:11] I thought where the fuck's that come from if
[14:13] it was if there was a sky rise behind it I'd
[14:16] think someone just flashed me with a torch but
[14:18] no one did it's just a flash so I thought nothing
[14:21] of it um another night same place I've had another
[14:25] flash so there's nothing there to start to flash
[14:31] it's just a flash appearing and then disappearing
[14:36] so again thinking oh that's the brothers that
[14:39] in the spaceship they're obviously letting hello
[14:42] you know they're saying hello so I'm like you
[14:44] got to do something more than that I need to
[14:46] see something more than that talking out to him
[14:48] nothing's happened after that and then another
[14:50] time I was just having a say and I thought if
[14:53] you're there show me something good and then
[14:55] I said it in my head and then I turned around
[14:58] because I was fiddling with a plant pot above
[15:00] my head and then I turned and then the flash
[15:02] come on and it stayed on and it was pretty much
[15:06] shining a light to me like a spotlight but it
[15:09] wasn't like a steady spotlight so it went ping
[15:13] I had a light kind of hit me and then the light
[15:17] was still there but it moved across and then
[15:20] disappeared so it didn't go and it wasn't fast
[15:24] like you see in some films and videos and that
[15:27] it didn't zap off and disappear it shined its
[15:30] light give it a steady move and then disappear
[15:33] it wasn't a plane it wasn't a helicopter it wasn't
[15:38] an invisible something that you could class as
[15:40] some sort of invisible plane just turn a light
[15:42] on it was literally nothing there turned it on
[15:44] the same flashes that i've seen same ball lit
[15:47] up bright white you could see it was circular
[15:51] and the movement was smooth it moved for like
[15:55] three seconds and then just it faded off it didn't
[15:59] just disappear it faded off so i knew instantly
[16:02] you were full baby um and that's at the night
[16:06] time so that's like early hours so they've happened
[16:09] then and then i've seen it without the lights
[16:11] in the day uh it's just kind of appeared like
[16:17] a like a mirror ball so like a mirror Kind of
[16:22] things hard to describe whether it's see -through
[16:24] or not, but you could see some sort of reflection
[16:27] Been there as I'm looking and I'm staring thinking
[16:31] what the fuck is that? I think it is that but
[16:34] then when I clock what it can be it Disappears
[16:39] within the the color of the sky again, but again
[16:41] same place told to me They're communicating or
[16:47] something to me in some sort of way to make me
[16:51] understand and I don't know why but they're definitely
[16:56] there did you get the impression that like during
[17:00] the daytime one that they saw they were more
[17:04] aware of you than you were of them to begin with
[17:09] so they were always aware of me they showed themselves
[17:12] to you rather than just sort of randomly seeing
[17:15] them yeah yeah yeah it's like check us out and
[17:21] then they go do you want me to see them? they
[17:25] definitely want me to see them the ones at the
[17:27] night time it's so fucking clear i can't deny
[17:30] it because when you tell someone that they think
[17:33] oh it's just a ball it's just a um you know it
[17:36] could be a helicopter with a it's not there's
[17:38] nothing else around it's like half two in the
[17:39] morning nothing else around you can't mistake
[17:42] it for any stars the stars aren't even the same
[17:43] level you can't even really see the stars and
[17:46] the stars are a lot higher this thing is fucking
[17:49] nine level and then it makes itself very aware
[17:52] by shines a light at me so you know the chinese
[17:55] torches i've shined one back so i'll give them
[17:58] a little of their own taste of medicine type
[17:59] thing like let's have a chat through light language
[18:02] time but they are making me aware about their
[18:06] presence yeah because i'm not even looking for
[18:09] it but they'll just go hello i'm here goodbye
[18:12] and then i get a feeling of you've got my back
[18:18] type thing it's a weird feeling because after
[18:20] it it's not like a confusion it's not like i'm
[18:23] thinking shit what was that I'm very calm with
[18:27] it because of the because like I say I do 100
[18:30] % know and I'll say no There is other things
[18:33] out there. So when I when I get these little
[18:36] Moments where they show themselves and like yes
[18:38] boys Doing it boys. Don't worry. Whatever I'm
[18:42] doing. Yeah, I can see you. Don't worry. I know
[18:45] you there So he's like, yeah, I've got the boys.
[18:47] I've got the backs It's interesting The first
[18:54] time you saw it and you said there was just like
[18:57] a flash ash when we went out with the girls And
[19:04] before we went up to house of cries That's exactly
[19:07] the same thing that we saw that you didn't because
[19:10] you had your fucking back turned to us But it
[19:13] was just like a Bing it was just silent as well.
[19:17] Yeah But yeah, it was it was odd that that's
[19:21] exactly the same If I get impression it was the
[19:24] same sort of yeah. Yeah, and that was like I
[19:29] think that was that's just to catch your eyes
[19:33] because because the internet the internet I mean
[19:37] Not the first one but the main one where they
[19:39] flashed the light at me. That was an intense
[19:41] light. That was like That's like a white LED
[19:46] clear bright light. It wasn't like a yellow pale
[19:49] starry light it was in your face like But like
[19:54] what you're saying now and you've seen that with
[19:56] the girls It's definitely an attention like we're
[19:59] here. Check us out type thing There's quite a
[20:03] lot of reports. We got to add it into our database
[20:05] which starts with right flash And then I saw
[20:09] like an object which is then moving dying around
[20:11] the sky and stuff like that There's just looking
[20:13] now. There's two in May where they'd report is
[20:17] The flash of light was got their attention. Like
[20:19] you said, yeah, it's like a like it's described
[20:22] like a star but it's moving about and it's obviously
[20:24] making movements that obviously aren't a star
[20:27] or a satellite so why why then if you have any
[20:32] opinions on why are they showing themselves to
[20:34] you or at all because i believe i've got connection
[20:39] galactically with octarians and You know Larry
[20:44] when a little Mary and something like that when
[20:46] when you start looking into galactic races And
[20:48] I mean you can go to insectoids and things like
[20:51] that things we might think is creepy as fuck
[20:53] Yeah, well, we're in a human suit. We're gonna
[20:55] think it's creepy as fuck Well back in our other
[20:58] land before we come on this game way with something
[21:00] else now I'll say that as well Because I do believe
[21:04] we all share consciousness from the source. We
[21:07] end up splitting into different things We go
[21:09] into our games. We choose to be a galactic rare
[21:12] case if we don't be that we can come and be human
[21:14] or we can be both or whatever so when i when
[21:19] i've done like meditation i've communicated with
[21:23] all the beans i'd say so i've i've seen multiple
[21:28] variations of all the beans so it's not just
[21:30] like your typical greys and your typical octarians
[21:33] or uh what the other ones long blonde hair them
[21:36] ones and all that no yeah there's all sorts of
[21:40] different things and I think I'm able to do that
[21:44] because I don't get freaked out and because of
[21:47] the level of what I feel about myself and where
[21:50] I've you know had some sort of connection I think
[21:54] like I say I'm messing around they're saying
[21:56] they're the boys in the sky and all that I do
[21:58] after when I've told people the scene of UFO
[22:00] the boys are in town and all this stuff I don't
[22:03] give a fuck I'll say it and I'll say I sound
[22:06] weird about it if we don't bother me that Because
[22:08] a lot of people, they'll look at the stars and
[22:10] they'll think the same thing. But they'll be
[22:13] a bit weirded out by even saying it, speaking
[22:15] it out loud. And I'll tell people, yeah, you're
[22:18] an alien. You've probably got this alien galactic
[22:21] race that are looking out for you because you
[22:23] are on this game now. You're trying to have a
[22:25] little game and they're looking out for you in
[22:27] the sky, whether it's the sky or next to you
[22:29] and you just can't see them. So when I see them
[22:31] in the sky, I get that comforting feeling, not
[22:33] comforting, but that feeling of like boys type
[22:37] thing. It goes back to me learning about all
[22:44] the other types of things that we might not see
[22:46] and the types of aliens and the types of races
[22:49] that are out there. So yeah, a few different
[22:53] things that I believe that they're letting themselves
[22:56] known to me because they want me to now know
[22:59] that they're around. They want me to now see
[23:02] them in variations. Because if you think about
[23:05] all this uh disclosure stuff as time goes on
[23:09] more and more people are going to see more and
[23:11] more things and then pretty much the world well
[23:14] the western world i mean the other side of the
[23:15] world they already know about all these people
[23:18] all these landings and all these different you
[23:21] know variations of races because it's inscribed
[23:24] in their life as they grow up just the western
[23:26] world that's really going to be getting some
[23:28] sort of disclosure so when they're showing themselves
[23:31] like when they're showing themselves like to
[23:33] me or to whoever else it's a little wink it's
[23:36] a little like hello because if you haven't looked
[23:41] into it now they're giving you a personal hello
[23:44] because they want you to look a bit deeper they
[23:46] want you to go inside on yourself they want you
[23:48] to chill meditate they want you to take these
[23:51] brainwashed rules off that the world gave us
[23:54] for so many fucking years about it's in space
[23:57] you'll never see them and you know the evil and
[23:59] when they come here they're going to take over
[24:01] the world shut up and that is the government
[24:03] that's the government and hollywood they want
[24:05] you to think all that Trust me when you start
[24:08] getting on a level with yourself and yet like
[24:10] I say meditating it sounds boring But once you
[24:14] start getting in that mode because my concentration
[24:16] especially like you know tabs of Indian ADHD
[24:20] and fucking Autism and all that stuff, you know,
[24:25] we're all sprinkled with something when you try
[24:27] and start getting karma And you just give yourself
[24:30] even ten minutes a day 15 minutes a day You'll
[24:34] start getting used to it. Your mind will start
[24:35] calming down and I think when you stop the noise
[24:37] in your mind You're able to give a little leeway
[24:41] to all the things coming to connect. So yeah,
[24:44] it's about your frequency You're raising your
[24:46] frequency etc. So in meditation, I've not just
[24:49] sit like I've seen these Winks from I say the
[24:52] boys I've seen things in meditation where you
[24:56] think Normally, you should sit yourself like
[25:00] a weird creepy looking alien with about a hundred
[25:02] eyes but i've had i've felt this type of conversation
[25:06] with him but i write stuff down after meditation
[25:08] and during it as well because after it it's hard
[25:11] to remember but what i then do is so i'm going
[25:15] on one here when i do something in meditation
[25:18] or i feel like i'm connecting with someone i'll
[25:20] ask for some sort of proof in the three days
[25:23] so i need you to give me something so i know
[25:24] i'm not making this shit up so i'll get a name
[25:27] or get a phrase or something like that and I
[25:29] won't understand what it is and then I'll Google
[25:32] it and then it'll end up being about some dug
[25:37] up African fucking, I don't know, secret thing
[25:43] that was found 10 years ago and it'll have an
[25:46] image of something I've seen meditating or something
[25:48] that resembles a picture of what I've seen will
[25:51] be on this article or this something. So when
[25:55] I feel like I'm communicating with whatever in
[25:57] meditation. I'll always try and get myself some
[26:00] sort of proof. So again, I don't think I'm going
[26:02] nuts. So this is why, you know, there's so much
[26:05] out there that we don't get told. And I do fully
[26:08] believe, you know, the giving people winks, whether
[26:11] it's a flash or a flash and a quick zap, you
[26:15] can't deny it sometimes. How long has this been
[26:21] going on for you? That first time you were flashed,
[26:25] let's say. I was a bit naughty that, wasn't it?
[26:29] The first time I was flashed, I was about 10
[26:31] years old and I never recovered. He's in jail!
[26:41] I don't know, you know, about the flash, I'd
[26:43] say six months to a year ago, something like
[26:47] that, six months to a year ago, as in physically,
[26:51] with my own physical eyes, seeing something in
[26:54] the sky. Now, actually, well, yeah, so when I
[26:57] go back and I think... places have been out and
[27:00] about I'm sure I've seen something in the sky
[27:04] but I've not acknowledged it like yet definitely
[27:06] seen that you know you think you've seen something
[27:09] but you don't know and it's before all you see
[27:11] all this online with you know that the hype story
[27:14] is about this video or you know the government
[27:16] trying to put it out there whatever it's before
[27:25] we lost months 12 months oh we lost you there
[27:32] you lost me there for about the last five seconds
[27:35] yeah Yeah, it's them mate probably interfere
[27:38] with it. Well, it's funny because... You can
[27:45] interfere with technology. You wouldn't believe
[27:48] that the weird shit happens. We were on a podcast
[27:52] once. There's been many odd things and we were
[27:55] chatting to someone. We were talking about the
[27:57] fact that we weren't going to be allowed to go
[28:00] to Mars and all this kind of stuff. And at the
[28:02] exact same time we were filming it. recording
[28:05] the episode and talking about they won't let
[28:08] us leave the earth and all that a SpaceX rocket
[28:11] had actually blown up on that on the Takeoff,
[28:16] do you remember that with Ben? Is the tester
[28:19] for the Mars one on it? It was a tester for the
[28:22] Mars one. So yeah, they're not going there Well
[28:29] It could be another podcast that but the planets
[28:32] aren't around circular balls like they think
[28:34] we're all signs What do you think then? Let's
[28:37] go there Well, let's say stars. Okay, I don't
[28:42] think stars are any sort of all the gas evil
[28:44] at the Sun I'm not going into the flat earth
[28:47] theory and all that. That's just a long conversation
[28:49] in it, but I believe stars are windows So there's
[28:53] water. I don't fit into space. There's water
[28:57] the water holds entry points entry points are
[29:00] stars or windows so when you look through our
[29:07] telescopes that when i say ours non -nasa ones
[29:12] that nasa don't have contracts with the builders
[29:14] for either where they put certain things within
[29:17] the technology when you look through it you can
[29:21] see it looks like you're looking into a swimming
[29:23] pool the actual stars and it's the same with
[29:26] the planets yeah I've seen some videos of people
[29:29] oh look at why I'm seeing Jupiter you know with
[29:31] the rings you can see the rings and a perfectly
[29:34] perfectly smooth circle representing a planet
[29:40] bullshit you're not seeing Jupiter with the perfect
[29:44] rings perfectly smooth they could if anything
[29:49] they could be projecting that into the sky knowing
[29:50] they're gonna get a hundred thousand people on
[29:53] the telescopes to look at it and it can just
[29:54] start off another agenda it's not for them to
[29:57] be putting out projections in the sky they're
[29:58] doing it loads of people are seeing videos it's
[30:01] projections in the sky people can say what they
[30:04] want but they're trying to hit on certain targets
[30:06] certain agendas planets are some of them so when
[30:10] nasa put out all these planets and what they
[30:13] look like i think it's a lot of nonsense stars
[30:16] don't look anything like the stars that i you
[30:19] know that they've made us all let to believe
[30:21] stars are windows i think because it's so it
[30:24] portals are made of water in a way it's vibration
[30:27] water can move consciousness you can move through
[30:30] water so i do believe the stars are able like
[30:33] windows for them to see or send energy through
[30:36] because when certain stars are aligned with certain
[30:39] planets i .e you get certain energetic convulsions
[30:43] you get any energy in certain ways hence like
[30:46] star signs how how the planets affect certain
[30:51] patterns of behavior certain things that happen
[30:53] within the world it's all done through astrology
[30:56] a lot of it and astrology is based on the stars
[30:58] and the planets but that can't happen if it's
[31:01] a round ball and i don't think there's any round
[31:04] balls and i don't think there's any um real satin
[31:09] that you see in the sky right now You say that
[31:13] they are projecting like the image of Saturn
[31:16] up there for us to see who's most likely Who's
[31:21] they? The powers that be that have secret little
[31:24] agendas that what I move the world in a certain
[31:27] position and a certain way They want to break
[31:29] down certain beliefs. They want to destroy certain
[31:32] beliefs. They want to keep certain religions
[31:34] intact. They want to keep certain Things go in
[31:38] a certain way. So we manifest a certain world
[31:40] that they want I wanna say they, I can't give
[31:43] names, obviously, but there's people behind the
[31:46] scenes that control the people in the scenes.
[31:49] And NASA's a big one of that. Anything in the
[31:51] sky really is, I mean, you've seen some of the
[31:56] random stuff, haven't you? I'm sure on the videos.
[31:59] To me, I look at that and I think, how can you
[32:01] not tell it looks like a projector? Poor quality
[32:04] flickering. How do you really think that's in
[32:07] the sky? But again, it fools a lot of people.
[32:10] I mean, I've seen Saturn through a telescope.
[32:15] I understand what you're saying, but that's quite
[32:20] a big push for people to be on your side with
[32:27] that point of view. I'm not saying it's wrong.
[32:29] It is quite a big thing because they've been
[32:34] seeing Saturn for some time. I do believe you
[32:40] can see Saturn. OK. but i don't believe it's
[32:44] what they put out there on these videos it's
[32:47] uh super smooth super perfect looking image to
[32:53] me it's doctored it's some sort of cgi that they
[32:55] can project in the sky like that i don't i'm
[32:58] not saying that sounds not true it sounds not
[33:00] real yeah i definitely know you can see something
[33:02] but i don't believe some of the stuff that you
[33:05] see online have been put out there no that's
[33:08] fair enough Where what are these these windows
[33:11] then you say about the stars being windows work?
[33:13] What are they windows to or where are they windows
[33:16] from? So the windows I mean, I can't say 100
[33:23] % obviously because I've not been there as far
[33:26] as I remember Your mates might have yeah, they
[33:32] could have but I believe it's like is it's some
[33:38] sort of energy entry point. Yeah so if you take
[33:46] the typical looking portal that you see on tv
[33:48] or whatever you know the big ring if that was
[33:53] in the sky but it was active they can sense something
[34:00] through whether it's whatever i don't know i
[34:03] can't actually say because i don't actually know
[34:05] for real but i just believe they are windows
[34:09] into our dimension so through the stars to another
[34:12] galaxies or another universes Elsewhere where
[34:16] that is. I don't know obviously but for when
[34:20] you see it through a telescope and it looks like
[34:22] water That's that's a good indication. It's a
[34:25] portal of some sort. So portal to where no idea
[34:29] but you know There's a lot of things that we
[34:32] we can't physically see with our eyes, but doesn't
[34:35] mean it doesn't work. It's not true I agree.
[34:40] It's interesting because I do I do lend theory
[34:44] to Different dimensions and I know we've spoken
[34:48] about UFOs and cryptids could be interdimensional
[34:52] and it's I listen to all sorts of podcasts and
[34:58] Science podcasts and everything in between and
[35:02] they talk about quantum computing And this is
[35:05] this I can't even get my head around quantum
[35:07] mechanics and stuff like that, but they were
[35:10] saying that You're doing this is where the interdimensional
[35:14] thing in these portals come in come into it for
[35:17] me that these guys or these scientists are doing
[35:21] computations on these computers so they plug
[35:26] it in but at the exact same time in all all different
[35:30] dimensions right the other scientists on the
[35:34] same computers but in other dimensions are doing
[35:36] the same computational working out and mathematics
[35:42] as everybody else at exactly the same time and
[35:45] they use all the processing power of all these
[35:48] different dimensions computers so every option
[35:53] and every dimension of this computer existing
[35:58] is being used for computing power at the same
[36:01] time now maybe those those windows or energy
[36:05] pools that that's part of it i don't know but
[36:10] i can't even get my head around it and they've
[36:12] got scientists talking about All this stuff and
[36:15] I just my brain just goes Yeah, so because there's
[36:20] so much out there and there's so much like you
[36:22] say one thing but you can go into it So deep
[36:26] and then well, how does it affect something else?
[36:28] So the quantum computer in London the quantum
[36:31] science is it's a it's a science of Spiritual
[36:36] dimensions and spiritual happenings. It's just
[36:39] we'll give it a name to sound like a science
[36:41] Obviously, we haven't but you know, it's got
[36:43] a name and it's catching up i mean the double
[36:47] split experiment that's proving that we're in
[36:51] some sort of simulation by when we decide something's
[36:54] to happen it happens but it happens without us
[36:58] even seeing it until it's until we've seen it
[37:00] obviously so if it's something like that's happening
[37:03] with the computer so if we're on this laptop
[37:05] now i believe we're talking there's another version
[37:09] of us talking doing the exact same thing given
[37:13] the same conversation so I've just led this conversation
[37:17] one way but another timeline I've led it another
[37:21] way and quantum physics is trying to say the
[37:24] same thing's happening we just can't see it in
[37:27] another area so like I used to say the stars
[37:29] aren't one window to look at a version of Earth
[37:32] here and they're going about multiverse another
[37:36] window might be going back to another universe
[37:39] with another Earth and another version of it
[37:41] on another timeline another star might be an
[37:44] even more in depth version of earth with fucking
[37:48] pretend dinosaurs on but they say it's the past
[37:51] used to say it's not actually happening just
[37:53] over there through that window so i do believe
[37:55] there's different planes we've got different
[37:58] realms we've got different dimensions we've got
[38:00] the earth realm apparently we've got um nine
[38:06] planes on each realm and there's 13 realms earth
[38:11] is a realm there's nine versions so nine dimensions
[38:15] nine planes happening on a game of earth that's
[38:20] that's really a head fuck when you try and think
[38:23] of that when you don't have a clue what that
[38:25] even means but like we've got we've got our history
[38:29] here in uh one version of earth i believe ancient
[38:35] egypt is happening now but in another version
[38:38] of earth we can't say ancient greece mythological
[38:42] greece it's not all stories it's actually happening
[38:44] now but we just can't see it all piled up happening
[38:49] on earth just we're tuned into the 3d earth of
[38:52] this story there's another vibration that tunes
[38:55] into another version of the same story and vice
[38:58] versa just again it goes into past lives but
[39:02] i think past lives are actually lives that are
[39:05] going on now so we're all intertwangled and it's
[39:07] just happening there's a parallel universe that
[39:09] we can't see but when you heighten your vibration
[39:11] you can tune into certain things and I say that
[39:15] I touch up on Egypt because I've I believe which
[39:18] or I say I believe I'd say that because I'm trying
[39:21] to soften it I'm not saying I believe I know
[39:23] I've communicated with my Egyptian self okay
[39:26] again through through meditation and it's really
[39:29] strange it's quite a story actually what was
[39:31] going on because I didn't obviously know What's
[39:34] going on? So it's when I first got into meditation
[39:36] basically I was meditating and I had some Egyptian
[39:40] type music on in my ears just a bit of whatever
[39:43] just playing in the background so I was just
[39:45] chilling and I just had the urge to take it off
[39:48] so took it off and Then I started to see an Egyptian
[39:54] type thing So it's like a person it wasn't super
[39:59] clear because I'm trying to figure out who I'm
[40:02] looking at here And I'm starting to see it but
[40:04] then around this person It looked like an old
[40:07] mirror and then it turned out Within the inside
[40:13] of the mirror was that person and it's an Egyptian
[40:16] looking guy So as I'm looking at that, I'm thinking
[40:20] this mirror. It looks like a portal. I'm touching
[40:23] on portals again So as I'm looking at this Egyptian
[40:27] type person My awareness then goes into this
[40:31] Egyptian person I'm not saying it goes into him,
[40:33] but my awareness is then as the Egyptian person
[40:37] i'm saying me my egyptian myself looking at me
[40:42] so i was then seeing myself meditating in my
[40:46] room this is where it was a bit like what the
[40:49] fuck so once i see myself looking at what i was
[40:55] feeling as i'm the egyptian i then came back
[40:57] to my awareness as me seeing the egyptian again
[41:01] so i'm like jesus i'm flicking back and forward
[41:03] here and i was like who are you And then telepathically
[41:08] you're getting this IMU. So when I had this telepathic
[41:12] IMU, I flipped back to this Egyptian. And then
[41:16] I'm looking at myself again, meditating in my
[41:19] room, looking at this Egyptian. But the weird
[41:22] thing is, when I was a bit more conscious of
[41:24] that, I had a look and I could see Egyptian landscape,
[41:28] dark, dark blue sky, clear stars. I could see
[41:32] buildings. It wasn't like desert. I could see
[41:35] the pyramids I could see buildings lights flickering
[41:39] movement out in the distance I was sat on again
[41:47] not physically but my awareness was within this
[41:49] Egyptian I'm sat on something high where I can
[41:53] see out into the distance seeing the sky seeing
[41:56] the landscape seeing what's going on but i've
[42:00] also got this like mirror looking thing in front
[42:02] of me as i'm this egyptian so again it's like
[42:05] a i'm sure it was a portal i could only see myself
[42:08] in the middle of it so when i'm looking at myself
[42:12] i end up coming back to me in my room when i'm
[42:16] back to me in my room i'm kind of i'm in a conversation
[42:22] trying to trying to figure out who this is and
[42:24] if saying i am you now this is years ago i can't
[42:26] really remember what i was doing on about uh
[42:30] i just remember the things that were surprising
[42:32] me which was when i was looking at him i kind
[42:36] of felt like i was seeing this thing this pink
[42:40] thing like a string coming from this portal looking
[42:45] mirror thing from him and it came to me and i
[42:48] could it felt like it was literally right there
[42:52] and i felt it i felt some sort of touch on my
[42:55] head as i fell out of my head my awareness then
[42:58] went back to this addiction so i'm this egyptian
[43:01] again i'm looking at me physically through this
[43:04] mirror i can see myself sat down meditating i
[43:08] can see myself looking back to me as the egyptian
[43:10] and then i feel like i'm sending this type of
[43:14] energy thing so this is why i'm saying i feel
[43:17] like i was cross communicating with a let's say
[43:20] past life but i believe it's happening right
[43:22] there and then because if it was happening as
[43:24] a past life i don't believe i'd have an interaction
[43:27] like that I don't believe my awareness would
[43:29] be going back and forward. And I was having some
[43:32] sort of communication conversation about IMU.
[43:36] And again, I can't really remember the conversation.
[43:38] I wrote it down somewhere. I don't have it right
[43:39] now. But if that was a past life, I couldn't
[43:43] be going back and forward. It'd be more like
[43:45] reliving a memory, reliving something I'm seeing
[43:48] or something happening where I'm seeing it happen
[43:50] in real time. But if it's actually another dimension,
[43:53] another place that's happening right there and
[43:56] then. Was able to cross to communicate if you
[44:00] know, I mean it's a back and forward and because
[44:02] I was going back and forward It was it was freaky.
[44:06] So then when I was at one point my Egyptian self,
[44:10] let's say I'm looking ahead I could see myself
[44:13] my physical self on the other side Sitting there
[44:17] meditating I shot and all that I said in my head
[44:20] as the Egyptian self Stand up. I'm saying stand
[44:24] up. I want to see you move type thing my awareness
[44:28] then come back to myself here meditating in my
[44:31] room and I fucking stood up don't know why I
[44:34] stood up it's just a command that I seem to have
[44:36] given myself I stood up and then in my head I'm
[44:40] still seeing the Egyptian self I'm still feeling
[44:42] his connection I still feel like there's some
[44:45] sort of energetic thing that he's put from himself
[44:49] to me into my head typing and then It was pretty
[44:57] much like right. Okay, I think I'm gonna have
[44:59] a little chilly because I don't know what the
[45:01] fuck's going on I mean, so It was kind of a quick
[45:06] flash called by type thing. I was I wasn't saying
[45:09] bye, but it was like I just knew that I didn't
[45:13] have to say bye type thing and then I Just I
[45:18] open my eyes and I come back to myself here and
[45:20] it just felt so real and it was amazing at the
[45:22] time Because I literally thought who the fuck's
[45:26] that is that me in the past? Because again because
[45:28] of the past belief of past lives. But this is
[45:32] why I say I do believe there's other planes that
[45:33] are happening now. There's other lives that are
[45:35] happening now of you and other people, ancient
[45:38] Egypt, ancient Greece, you know, wherever else.
[45:41] And if you do meditate or you do raise your frequency
[45:43] or you do, you know, hit some sort of frequency
[45:47] vibration or some sort of way, I do believe we
[45:50] can communicate. So, I mean, it's like, Um, so
[46:01] Are you able to keep communicating with this
[46:04] past without past but your alternate? Self or
[46:08] is there any other kind of versions of yourself?
[46:10] You've been able to communicate with I've had
[46:15] interaction with different things. Um I've never
[46:20] had it again where that's happened Where I feel
[46:24] like i'm on a full -blown conversation one -to
[46:27] -one Seeing him flicking to him and flicking
[46:30] back to me that that was uh that was that let's
[46:37] say um when i've meditated i zap off to places
[46:44] sometimes and then i remember once i just appeared
[46:49] it's weird to say this because if you don't meditate
[46:53] you just think whoever's talking about these
[46:55] experiences you just think you're chatting absolute
[46:57] shit how can you just appear somewhere when you
[47:01] know or when you feel you are somewhere you know
[47:04] you're there you know there's a difference between
[47:06] your imagination and your awareness so your imagination
[47:12] like if you're sitting there meditating and you're
[47:14] you're just there and you you feel like you're
[47:17] seeing things or you you're having things going
[47:19] on in your head if you dismiss it it'll go if
[47:23] you're like all right yeah that's funny whatever
[47:25] you just dismiss it it just leaves but when you
[47:29] actually experience something like your awareness
[47:31] moves somewhere You don't dismiss it, you're
[47:34] actually feeling yourself there. So a random
[47:38] one, I just appeared in, it was like a classroom.
[47:45] I was in a chair. There was some sort of alien
[47:49] looking thing to the right of me. Some sort of
[47:52] alien thing looking to the left of me. And some
[47:54] sort of alien thing looking to like directly
[47:56] at me. It was only like a quick thing, but I
[48:01] felt like I was in trouble. I don't know why.
[48:04] I just had this feeling like I'm in trouble.
[48:07] either what I'm doing here or You know, yeah,
[48:13] I've got something to say he was like being in
[48:14] school, you know where the teachers looks at
[48:16] you like You've done something wrong. I just
[48:19] felt like something's gone wrong like I shouldn't
[48:22] either be there or I'm supposed to say something
[48:24] and I have a fucking clue what it is. I'm supposed
[48:26] to say so Yeah, just that I I had something to
[48:30] the left and something to the right again very
[48:32] alien looking the thing in front of me I've learned
[48:35] about 20 eyeballs it looked like It looked like
[48:41] that green thing off Ghostbusters, but with like
[48:44] multiple eyeballs. It's slime. It's all like
[48:48] that. I know it sounds really daft because it's
[48:50] off Ghostbusters, but that's what it looked like.
[48:53] And it was right in front of me. And it was just
[48:55] giving me the feeling of what you do in here
[48:57] type shit, like get out of it. So kind of just,
[49:00] when I had that feeling of that, I was like,
[49:02] I shall be here type thing. So I consciously
[49:04] said, get out, get out of this space. And then
[49:07] I did, and I just come back. So something it
[49:09] doesn't happen all the time because it's meditating
[49:11] just chill But a lot of times I end up zapping
[49:15] to random places. I'm trying to think of other
[49:18] place I made some notes, but I'm trying to think
[49:20] where else Did you feel you've ever been on one
[49:28] of the these craft? So these ones that have sort
[49:31] of showed themselves to you. Do you feel like
[49:33] you've ever There's more of a connection than
[49:36] this just you've seen it. Do you think there
[49:39] is more of a Do you feel like you've actually
[49:46] been closer to them? Have you been on a craft?
[49:51] Do you feel like you've been taken? Or do you?
[49:54] Yeah, but not in physical. I feel like in my
[49:58] dreams I've been there. Yeah, okay. In dreamland,
[50:02] yeah. Nah, that's fair. Yeah, I say dreams. I
[50:10] don't think, oh, I've been abducted. I don't
[50:14] have any of them thoughts and feelings that I've
[50:15] been abducted. You know like this concern of
[50:19] some sort, but I feel like in the dream when
[50:20] I woke up from dreams It was so vivid and real
[50:23] like I've been communicating with someone on
[50:27] a ship Some sort of being on a ship, but obviously
[50:31] like dreams don't make any sense How does it
[50:35] make you all feel? How does it make you feel
[50:38] all of it? Do you feel I know you you said you
[50:42] didn't feel so scared you felt like They got
[50:45] your back and all this kind of stuff But do you
[50:48] feel that they've got something for you or they're
[50:51] trying to impart something to you? Yeah Yeah,
[50:55] yeah I feel like again, I i'm not even asked
[51:01] how weird it sounds to other people, but I feel
[51:03] like They're letting themselves known a bit more
[51:07] slowly to me like You know little winks here
[51:11] and there what they're doing flashing, but then
[51:13] i'm getting visits in dreams Like I say, meditating
[51:20] has seemed to just be able to zap off to places.
[51:26] I feel like with the changes that I'm doing in
[51:28] my life, trying to raise frequency, trying to
[51:32] eat healthier, things like that, look after myself,
[51:35] because another way the world's changing, there's
[51:39] gonna be more type of disclosure. There's gonna
[51:41] be a lot more alien shit going on. There's gonna
[51:45] be a lot more of this happening in the future.
[51:48] And I believe I'm just supposed to get comfortable
[51:51] with it Whether that's in the head or physically
[51:56] and because I've never been uncomfortable with
[51:58] it I'm all right with that because if you've
[52:01] got a bit of a sketchy like mmm don't know about
[52:04] that they're either gonna hold off like all right,
[52:07] he's not ready or Fuck him. He's not even asked
[52:11] that stuff It's interesting because Disclosures
[52:16] and interesting. I spoke to somebody a couple
[52:18] of nights ago And saying that to people like
[52:22] us the people into it people that know about
[52:26] it and sin stuff There it's not actually disclosure
[52:31] Because we all believe it anyway, so yeah, there
[52:35] is no actual disclosure for us. It doesn't make
[52:38] any difference because everybody Like on our
[52:41] sort of wavelength for on a better better word
[52:44] or believe anyway, so it's um It's weird. It's
[52:49] sort of disclosure disclosure for the masses
[52:52] rather than disclosure for the UFO people because
[52:55] UFO I say UFO UAP That we everybody knows everybody
[53:00] believes anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's it
[53:03] This disclosure stuff it again. It's a narrative
[53:07] Do what I get it in the way they want people
[53:10] to understand it. So I do believe Blue Project
[53:15] Blue Bean is a thing I don't believe that they'll
[53:17] be able to get away with it I do believe they'll
[53:21] fool a lot of people with things in the sky,
[53:23] because they're fooling a lot of people with
[53:24] things in the sky. Now, I'm in a scene of it
[53:27] the other day about a dragon flying around a
[53:29] football stadium. I'm like, years ago, I seen
[53:33] 8D projection in a stadium where the dragons
[53:38] are flying around in the stadium. They're landing
[53:40] on the seating, they're landing, they're nearly
[53:44] flying into people. It was presented as a show,
[53:48] but that was years ago. the testing people to
[53:51] see what people think is good and what can fool
[53:53] people and now because it was so many years ago
[53:56] they can come out with this stuff and with all
[53:58] the the crazy shit that's going on on the news
[54:00] and wherever else people forget actually oh they've
[54:03] already shown us all that so they can come out
[54:05] with all this stuff so disclosure about aliens
[54:07] and all that stuff i do believe that they're
[54:09] going to try and manipulate the masses about
[54:11] the whole fact like they're the bad guys do you
[54:14] know what i mean you don't want people to be
[54:20] aware that i'd like to say they've got best intentions
[54:24] for us because they don't want to nuke in the
[54:27] planet they don't want us blowing the planet
[54:29] up because that type of shit is going to affect
[54:32] molecules and affecting molecules affects photons
[54:36] the photons effect you know it goes on and goes
[54:39] on it affects vibrational everything and that
[54:42] all affect frequencies and that'll affect beans
[54:46] that we can't see remember we can only see like
[54:48] point something three three six six of light
[54:52] but there's other shit around us we just can't
[54:54] see it so who's to say this chemical nuke can't
[54:57] affect that so they definitely again the government
[55:02] they want to string out disclosure in a way that
[55:04] suits them again to the people that aren't really
[55:08] seeing things or hearing things or even into
[55:10] it or the disbelievers but they're gonna have
[55:14] to come to the fact that it is true and the way
[55:17] that they can control the disbelievers is in
[55:20] their narrative. So when you get the people learning
[55:23] in their way they can control more of that understanding
[55:26] type stuff. So can I point it back a bit to like
[55:33] spaces and what we think it is? Yeah. Who is
[55:38] the they in this instance? Is it government or
[55:41] is it above? Because if it's been lying to us
[55:44] it's been decades, centuries of them lying to
[55:48] us about what the universe and what space is.
[55:51] So who is controlling this narrative? OK. I presume
[55:58] you've heard of the reptilians and dracons. They
[56:03] are the puppet masters of the people. So you've
[56:06] got families like, yeah, OK, it's all conspiracy.
[56:09] Listen, is conspiracy even a word these days?
[56:12] Does it even count for anything? Because I don't
[56:15] think it does. I think we're running out of conspiracy.
[56:17] So when people talk about things like this, like
[56:19] dracons or reptilians, they are the puppet masters
[56:21] of the people the person the the 3d human because
[56:26] they'll just chomp you up if you're not obeying
[56:28] them so i believe the people that want us to
[56:32] be all fooled about space is because they're
[56:35] not the people but i believe the dracons are
[56:38] running the show but they're not in charge we're
[56:43] created by such beings as anunnaki as i'm sure
[56:46] you've heard them before They've gave the dracons
[56:51] a chance to say okay, you can stay on this this
[56:53] play in this realm We've created people but you
[56:57] can't fuck with them the only way you can fuck
[57:00] with them is if you if you're not seen and Then
[57:02] you can stay because the people are giving feeding
[57:06] the Anunnaki Through energy through loose and
[57:10] I were going deep here and I said before I can
[57:12] split everything into other conversations because
[57:14] they all link and I'm getting back to space so
[57:19] If the Anunnaki don't actually want us to believe
[57:22] what we truly are, which is interdimensional
[57:24] and we have, we are, we have asleep dormant powers
[57:28] of sort. You know, I'm not going to go into what's
[57:32] what, but you can, you can imagine the X -Men
[57:34] and all that shit. We have abilities of telekinesis,
[57:37] we have abilities of moving matter with our mind,
[57:39] et cetera, et cetera. But we're dormant to that
[57:41] because we're under a spell. We've been put asleep
[57:44] because the Anunnaki don't want us to be like
[57:47] that. We were created with that extra connection
[57:50] to the divine and the creator by mistake. One
[57:54] half of them didn't want us like that, they wanted
[57:55] us dormant like slaves to give them the gold,
[57:58] give them the energy, feed them through energy,
[58:01] right? The other half put it in us, but the one
[58:05] that didn't want that is like, right, well, we've
[58:07] got to keep these fuckers dumb because if you
[58:09] start waking up, we have not got any slaves,
[58:12] we have not got any people to feed off. They
[58:14] will just do their thing and then kick back basically.
[58:18] I believe the dracons are in charge of the people
[58:20] in the limelight with the reptilians. The reptilians,
[58:24] they're the face. They can take on human form.
[58:30] The dracons, they're another frequency above
[58:32] us. They're like the four day. They can't take
[58:36] on our form, but they can rule us, in a way,
[58:39] through corruption, through manipulation, through
[58:42] lies, keeping us dumb, keeping us dormant. So
[58:46] if we knew what we truly were, You know, we are
[58:50] pretty special then we won't we won't be controlled
[58:53] and puppeted in in the way of what they want
[58:56] Which is energy money power and a lot shit. So
[59:00] they have to lie about things like space They
[59:02] have to lie about things like planets and what
[59:05] have you they have to lie about Where we originated
[59:08] from they have to lie about things by using religion.
[59:12] They have to make you believe in Jesus Christ
[59:15] died for your sins The Bible all the religions
[59:20] the Torah is lamb. They're all based on fake
[59:23] fucking projections of what actually isn't so
[59:27] The characters are in that are representing something
[59:30] else and the stories are representing. Yeah There's
[59:33] a bit of truth in this of how to treat people
[59:36] nice There's a bit of facts in this, you know,
[59:39] you get good karma back and all that There's
[59:41] some good morals, but you mix truth with bullshit.
[59:43] It's so hard to find the truth So there is some
[59:47] good good reasoning for religion but they keep
[59:50] you stuck in programs such as that religions
[59:54] are programmed aliens aren't true aliens aren't
[59:57] real we're the only motherfuckers here makes
[1:00:00] us feel all special but also makes you think
[1:00:04] well we're nothing special but just human so
[1:00:07] all the bullshit comes from again i believe the
[1:00:10] dracons the reptilians the behind the scenes
[1:00:14] the ritualizing they're sucking our energies
[1:00:17] from all this low bullshit all the wars fake
[1:00:20] wars all the people by face you know with power
[1:00:25] politicians religions it's all done to control
[1:00:29] us mate and it keeps us from understanding that
[1:00:32] we've got the boys the aliens we've got all the
[1:00:35] races galactic races tuning to our frequency
[1:00:39] because they want to start actually making sure
[1:00:42] that we rise up and we aren't controlled by these
[1:00:45] fucking idiots And they are trying to look out
[1:00:47] for us. And they're trying to interact with people.
[1:00:49] You know, you've got all these people that communicate
[1:00:51] with them, whether, you know, whether you believe
[1:00:53] with them that they're actually speaking to these
[1:00:56] aliens or not, that's for you to decide. But
[1:01:00] they're definitely showing their face one way
[1:01:02] or another, whether it's in your dreams, whether
[1:01:04] it's physically or what. So space, again, I just
[1:01:10] believe they say it's what it is because they
[1:01:15] don't want us to understand. things like I think
[1:01:19] where stars are actually energy portals where
[1:01:22] beings can Maybe come through or you know some
[1:01:26] sort of energy from that star will affect actions
[1:01:28] on earth type thing You know like astrology and
[1:01:31] cosmology and all that stuff Whereas if we knew
[1:01:33] that Sorry, if we didn't know that and we just
[1:01:36] believe it's just a ball of gas and it takes
[1:01:39] 15 years to see us what? Shut up takes so long
[1:01:43] to come to us all that rhubarb He just creates
[1:01:47] a story on a story. It helps this lie, helps
[1:01:50] that lie and helps another lie. I think I answered
[1:01:54] you. Did I answer you? So I drift off. I just
[1:02:00] start a rabbit in on. So it's absolutely cool.
[1:02:04] Don't worry. No, no, definitely answers. Go on,
[1:02:06] Greg. No, I was going to say, I don't even really
[1:02:13] know where to be. I've always looked into that
[1:02:18] sort of. different consciousness, the powers
[1:02:25] that be are not necessarily humans, all that
[1:02:29] kind of stuff. So that resonates well with me
[1:02:33] because it's something over the years that I've
[1:02:37] dabbled with on and off. It's a subject that
[1:02:41] I think people tend to dismiss because it's too
[1:02:48] too much for a lot of people it's too much for
[1:02:50] their psyche yeah again because they're not been
[1:02:53] they're not been put they've maybe not gone into
[1:02:55] things like you know you guys and us guys do
[1:02:58] for their psyche it's too much to handle which
[1:03:00] i get you know you can't you can't force this
[1:03:02] stuff on people if it resonates it resonates
[1:03:04] if it doesn't you can say you can psychologically
[1:03:07] put someone in a psychosis by drilling it into
[1:03:09] them yeah because they don't want to hear it
[1:03:12] absolutely absolutely well i think um we're probably
[1:03:16] due That we'll have to have another conversation
[1:03:19] once we digest this and uh, we go a bit more
[1:03:23] Um a bit more conspiracy there. I I love a good
[1:03:26] conspiracy Um, you see you see that when we speak
[1:03:29] conspiracy as well conspiracy because they put
[1:03:31] that tag on it. Yeah It's to distract us from
[1:03:36] what actually you know, what's going on so I
[1:03:39] get it but yeah, it was a cia formed sort of
[1:03:43] conspiracy theory to credit people that actually
[1:03:47] were trying to understand everything um look
[1:03:50] how powerful it worked as well yeah it does it
[1:03:52] does i feel sorry for all the boys and girls
[1:03:55] who actually got abducted probably got probed
[1:03:58] you know back in the day in america and all that
[1:04:00] when they're thinking about it but they're getting
[1:04:02] absolutely terrified about it i feel sorry for
[1:04:05] them because right now they're laughing they're
[1:04:07] like oh come on it's funny um just before we
[1:04:11] finish i uh Used to have conversations with my
[1:04:15] mates when I was by 18 so like the mid 90s We
[1:04:18] talked about UFOs and and they're all just laughing
[1:04:22] at me And not longer I said to one of them. I
[1:04:25] was fucking right. Well, I Knew I was right.
[1:04:31] I knew I know the give it another five to ten
[1:04:33] years mate They'd be sat there having a cup of
[1:04:36] tea be one problem You think how far we've come
[1:04:39] since 2017 with the Nimitz and the tic tac and
[1:04:44] stuff like that and then New York Post and You
[1:04:49] just think oh my god, we've actually come a long
[1:04:52] way It's being talked about the governments in
[1:04:55] the US are saying the UFOs or UAP are real So
[1:05:01] yeah, I think we've come a very long way in quite
[1:05:03] a short period of like Social history time not
[1:05:08] not really because everybody's known it since
[1:05:10] the 40s But yeah, I'd just like to thank you
[1:05:13] so much for it. I've been fascinating It was
[1:05:18] it's definitely interesting to get people's takes
[1:05:21] on on everything Yeah, a lot of people that listen
[1:05:25] to this will align with exactly what you've been
[1:05:28] saying. So it's been it's been super cool So,
[1:05:32] thank you very much. Thank you very much. Where
[1:05:34] can people find you? If you want to be found
[1:05:37] if you want to be found Yeah, I'm not massive
[1:05:40] on social media because my stuff gets took off
[1:05:42] quite often You're a dangerous man to know Well,
[1:05:47] I mean like I was saying before me out the algorithm
[1:05:49] it was a bit friendlier years ago It's not anymore.
[1:05:52] So I'll give up on trying to build up my stuff.
[1:05:54] But if you want to hear some random stuff That
[1:05:59] I do come out with I do fine -tune it down to
[1:06:02] get away with some sort of videos on don't be
[1:06:04] told tiktok and that's my tiktok and what i've
[1:06:09] started to do as well because i can't get my
[1:06:11] videos out there because the algorithm just shuts
[1:06:13] me down i'm starting to put things into music
[1:06:16] so music is a bit of a it's a bit of a vault
[1:06:22] because i can put it in music and in five years
[1:06:24] time people might be learning something off my
[1:06:27] tune so i'm putting little messages in music
[1:06:29] like for just a message to the people that are
[1:06:31] listening now one big one nicotine okay i'm not
[1:06:34] telling you to smoke but nicotine destroys nanotech
[1:06:39] so again it's not conspiracy because it's an
[1:06:41] actual factual thing this nanotech is a thing
[1:06:43] it's put through lipid technologies lipid particles
[1:06:46] particles which is oil and water it's been put
[1:06:50] in our bodies throughout numerous things dentists
[1:06:53] hospitals foods liquids drinks nicotine has been
[1:06:57] found independently to destroy it so i just want
[1:07:01] to put that in people's heads whether you start
[1:07:03] getting them The mints or whatever take some
[1:07:06] nicotine going to the future because it's a really
[1:07:08] good health thing So i'll come out with things
[1:07:10] like that i'm gonna put more little things like
[1:07:13] that into my music. Don't be told productions
[1:07:16] on youtube My music's random. It's rap. It's
[1:07:20] techno. It's a bit of rock. It's a bit of everything
[1:07:23] but That's just what i'm doing at the minute
[1:07:25] bit of music a bit of tiktok If you want to find
[1:07:28] me well bo you've been an absolute legend. Thank
[1:07:31] you and it's been really nice. Cheers Bob. Thank
[1:07:33] you so much

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