# Can 'pronatalists' save the West?

An episode of [UnHerd with Freddie Sayers](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1540134798), 1 May 2025, 1 h 03 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/5fad6d24bc034454b53fe011/e/6813a261f3c711a5d06f1ae9/media.mp3

UnHerd’s Florence Read interviews outspoken pronatalists, Malcolm and Simone Collins, to dive into the urgent issue of population collapse. Is pronatalism the answer to demographic catastrophe, or does it skirt too close to eugenics and far-Right ideologies? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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